As I was writing in another thread: I too consider the whole thing just a big con. There is no real intention to complete the project. They just need to pretend to make a start, which even that is being bungled.

I dont understand why the Contract was not written in a way that will have PENALTIES. Also, written in a way that Govt Revenue will NOT be given to Contractors until work is inspected and approved as completed.

Abe can gee dem cyar and prado rum fun run. And abe can get dat powah from sugga leftwase baggas

quote:

Originally posted by Mr.T:
I too consider the whole thing just a big con.

Mr. T:

Ask yourself this question:

If Sithe Global is willing to pay con-man Motilall $12 million--how many tens of millions will Sithe Global be pocketing for themselves ?

THERE IS SOMETHING FISHY ABOUT SITHE GLOBAL & THIS AMAILA FALLS HYDRO PROJECT.

The Rev supports development in Guyana---but this hydro project stinks to high heaven.

Rev

quote:

Originally posted by Nehru:
I dont understand why the Contract was not written in a way that will have PENALTIES. Also, written in a way that Govt Revenue will NOT be given to Contractors until work is inspected and approved as completed.

Ow da bai a wan champian. E nah afrid ah da wata like white man. eee build ee 2 Merika mill dallah house right pun de watafront. only wan champ ah do dah.

quote:

Originally posted by Rev Al:

quote:

Originally posted by Mr.T:
I too consider the whole thing just a big con.

Mr. T:

Ask yourself this question:

If Sithe Global is willing to pay con-man Motilall $12 million--how many tens of millions will Sithe Global be pocketing for themselves ?

THERE IS SOMETHING FISHY ABOUT SITHE GLOBAL & THIS AMAILA FALLS HYDRO PROJECT.

The Rev supports development in Guyana---but this hydro project stinks to high heaven.

Rev

Ow bai wah yuh vex fuh abe coolie deh pun tap.

What are the contracts with the government like? Unless the PPP has signed contracts with Sithe Global for work to be carried out, Sithe Global cannot buy the contract from Motilall and expect to be able to have any legal rights in the project.

http://www.stabroeknews.com/20...-warning-for-amaila/


Delays and cost overruns at Bujagali should be a warning for Amaila
By STABROEK STAFF | 7 COMMENTS | LETTERS | FRIDAY, JANUARY 27, 2012


Dear Editor,

I have researched and written extensively on this tragic Amaila Falls hydroelectric project fiasco that remains a harsh reminder of the scandal-tainted, incompetent and mismanaging deeds of the PPP administration. Sithe Global is also marked with serious questions about its handling of the ongoing Uganda’s Bujagali hydro project. The cost overruns and delays on the Bujagali project mirror Amaila. The Ugandan newspaper, The Observer, noted in a January 22, 2012 article titled ‘Shs 450bn lost in Bujagali delay‘ that Uganda stood to lose US$184 million in revenue because the dam was not finished in 2011 as scheduled. This figure was obtained from a report on Bujagali compiled by the World Bank, the International Finance Corporation, and the Multilateral Investment Guarantee Agency in April 2007. Another environmental impact report compiled by experts arrived at a similar US$180 million loss figure. We know that Fip Motilall’s incompetence and sloth has delayed the commencement of construction at Amaila Falls. Delayed start of construction means Guyana is already losing revenues due to this delay. Sithe Global’s performance in constructing the Bujagali project has been lacklustre. Several construction timelines have been missed. There is no glaring evidence that things will be different with Amaila.

A 250MW Bujagali project now costs around US$1 billion at US$4 million per MW. A 165MW Amaila Falls now costs $845 million at approximately US$5.1 million per MW without a single stone laid. Just as happened at Uganda’s Bujagali, I expect costs to increase to around US$1 billion for Amaila by the time it is completed. That should put final construction cost per megawatt (CCM) for Amaila around US$6 million. The CCM for Amaila is now the highest in the world for recent projects. Experts say CCM should range between US$1 million and $1.5 million. Here are the CCMs of recent major projects: China’s 18,000 MW Three Gorges is US$1.3 million; Turkey’s Ilisu is US$1.3 million; Sudan’s Merowe is US$0.63 million; and Ethiopia’s Gilgel II is US$1.42 million. Getting a plant 20 years after it has been used, and after paying the highest construction cost per megawatt in the entire world to build it only makes sense to the failed brain trust within the PPP. 400,000 working Guyanese must each repay G$317,500 with interest for a US$835 million power plant. If that plant ends up costing the Guyanese taxpayers US$1 billion, then each working Guyanese must repay G$500,000 with interest. A reasonable cost for a 165MW project like Amaila Falls should be from US$165 to US$330 million. Using a CCM of US$1.5 million, the expenditure of US$835 on a hydro project should deliver 556MW of power, not 165MW of power. Bujagali went from an estimated CCM of US$2 million to US$4 million from commencement to near completion. Bujagali’s CCM doubled. Amaila is already at approximately US$5.1 million and construction has not even started. Will Amaila double in cost? Guyanese buying electricity will have to pay for any cost overrun. Add the already astronomical cost of the project to grid losses and GPL’s mismanagement and you get a situation where there is no viable relief to consumers.

Why should the IDB have serious concerns about GPL? The problems extend far beyond mismanagement, incompetence, failure and technical nightmares. GPL had 898 employees in 2009. Its projected employment costs for 2010 were $2,367,329,000 or roughly $2,636,223 (US$13,181) per GPL employee per annum. It is no wonder that electricity costs $48.42 to $53.78 or US24.21 cents to US26.89 cents per Kwh. In New York, Con Edison customers are paying from US 8.5 cents to around US 12 cents per Kwh. Putting a brand new hydropower station on a dilapidated grid where there is mismanagement and incompetence is asking for serious trouble. Further, considering that Amaila will not produce to its maximum capacity and will drop off output significantly during the dry season, how does one justify this ludicrous construction cost per megawatt when there is no guarantee that the Guyanese people will get any relief in cost of electricity, since low output will have to be made up by increasing tariffs to the paying public? If the Chinese deliver another Skeldon white elephant, Guyanese will end up paying more to bail out the bad loans and atrocious decisions of the PPP regime.

This entire Amaila Falls project must be revisited before the shocking price is too much for each Guyanese to pay. The return on investment is suspect for this project given its heinously high construction costs, high fees (US$188 million various fees and insurance during construction), expected delays and potential issues with the quality of construction considering Chinese involvement. The Bujagali hydroproject in Uganda is screaming to the Government and the people of Guyana to look and learn. This project may have already started down the Bujagali stream and it has not even started. APNU and the AFC better start paying attention.

Yours faithfully,
M Maxwell

quote:

Originally posted by Pooran_Lall:
Ow bai wah yuh vex fuh abe coolie deh pun tap.

Pooran:

This is a serious thread--you are most welcome to make intelligent comments.

Rev

rEV, oNE CAN ONLY DISCUSS AT ONE'S LEVEL. hE IS A HIS PEAK.

quote:

Originally posted by Rev Al:

quote:

Originally posted by Pooran_Lall:
Ow bai wah yuh vex fuh abe coolie deh pun tap.

Pooran:

This is a serious thread--you are most welcome to make intelligent comments.

Rev

quote:

Originally posted by Rev Al:

quote:

Originally posted by Pooran_Lall:
Ow bai wah yuh vex fuh abe coolie deh pun tap.

Pooran:

This is a serious thread--you are most welcome to make intelligent comments.

Rev

Ow bai Granga and trotman ah all guyana prablem. dem ppp east indos ah saints.

quote:

Originally posted by André:
This entire Amaila Falls project must be revisited before the shocking price is too much for each Guyanese to pay. The return on investment is suspect for this project given its heinously high construction costs, high fees (US$188 million various fees and insurance during construction), expected delays and potential issues with the quality of construction considering Chinese involvement. The Bujagali hydroproject in Uganda is screaming to the Government and the people of Guyana to look and learn. This project may have already started down the Bujagali stream and it has not even started. APNU and the AFC better start paying attention.

Yours faithfully,
M Maxwell

Andre:

Thanks for posting that Maxwell letter in the stabroek news. I just read it and concur with many of the points made by Maxwell.

Rev

I also agree with Mr Maxwell. More needs to be done before this Project gets the green light.

quote:

Originally posted by Rev Al:

quote:

Originally posted by André:
This entire Amaila Falls project must be revisited before the shocking price is too much for each Guyanese to pay. The return on investment is suspect for this project given its heinously high construction costs, high fees (US$188 million various fees and insurance during construction), expected delays and potential issues with the quality of construction considering Chinese involvement. The Bujagali hydroproject in Uganda is screaming to the Government and the people of Guyana to look and learn. This project may have already started down the Bujagali stream and it has not even started. APNU and the AFC better start paying attention.

Yours faithfully,
M Maxwell

Andre:

Thanks for posting that Maxwell letter in the stabroek news. I just read it and concur with many of the points made by Maxwell.

Rev

These past few years, as Jagdeo and his grifter cronies fed shitload upon shitload of nonsense into the public domain regarding Fip Motilall/Amaila Falls, all we got from Nehru and the PPP fellow traveling crew was cussout for questioning the obvious, and . . .

"Bharat gat Guyana Sweet Sweet . . ."

Now, as the tiefmen are stuffing their suitcases and heading for parts unknown, y'all suddenly find Jesus.

Spare me . . .

I wouldn't be so harsh on Nehru. He has been consistent with his credit card when Jagdeo came to town.

quote:

Originally posted by Nehru:
I dont understand why the Contract was not written in a way that will have PENALTIES. Also, written in a way that Govt Revenue will NOT be given to Contractors until work is inspected and approved as completed.

Nehru:

We know the world bank has already passed on partaking in the financing of the Amalia hydro project.

I believe it would be a blessing if the IDB(Inter American Development Bank) also passes on this project.

The IDB has some serious doubts about the project and hopefully they will balk at providing the 175 million in International financing.

The project will most likely die if the IDB passes on it.

Rev

Instead we should hope for a revisit of the project and a completion so that the Guyanese people benefit.

quote:

Originally posted by Rev Al:

quote:

Originally posted by Nehru:
I dont understand why the Contract was not written in a way that will have PENALTIES. Also, written in a way that Govt Revenue will NOT be given to Contractors until work is inspected and approved as completed.

Nehru:

We know the world bank has already passed on partaking in the financing of the Amalia hydro project.

I believe it would be a blessing if the IDB(Inter American Development Bank) also passes on this project.

The IDB has some serious doubts about the project and hopefully they will balk at providing the 175 million in International financing.

The project will most likely die if the IDB passes on it.

Rev

quote:

Originally posted by Nehru:
Instead we should hope for a revisit of the project and a completion so that the Guyanese people benefit.

Bai Pavi you should not post on GNI whilst sober. Dem a gonna think you turn into a honest broker, or gave your sign in details to someone else .

LETTER: THE IDB SHOULD NOT FINANCE THE AMAILA FALLS PROJECT UNLESS CERTAIN CONDITIONS ARE MET

quote:

Dear Editor,

Based on Demerara Waves article of January 24, 2012 “Amaila Hydropower cost could climb again – Developer” The IDB should not provide financing unless certain conditions are met.

To anyone who has been involved in the management of capital projects, the Amaila Falls Hydroelectric project started out on the wrong foot and is continuing along that path.
In the first place, the contract for the design and construction should never have been signed without the financing being in place; whatever the final cost turns out to be, it will be saddled on the taxpayers and should be up front knowledge.

Secondly, it is fine to give a design and construction contract but not without project management.

It is project management that is responsible for project control (which includes Scope identification, Schedule and Cost control, Progress monitoring, Problem identification and mitigation, Project Status reporting and Progress payments).

Finally, only specialized human resources that is unavailable in Guyana should be employed on the project (the cost of overseas personnel include transportation, housing, food, base wage plus premium for overseas assignment). Additionally, the imported labour is exempt from local taxes. These costs are included in the cost of the project and are not part of contingency costs.

Based on those findings, it would be in IDB’s interest to ensure that it’s funding be protected by project management excellence through incorporation of the above changes to the contract.

In my 48 years and as one of the fathers of modern project management, I have never heard of any utility hiring a developer for a major heavy industrial project. Furthermore, developers are usually owners of whatever facility they undertake which happens to be either residential or commercial facilities.

Generally, the developer hires a project management firm or has its in-house project management. In the industrial industry, it is the owner of the utility who contracts out the engineering, procurement, construction and project management (EPCM) for the facility and has a project director who reports back to management.

The hiring of a developer who does not have a stake in a project is an additional cost to the project.

The contract for the Electrification Project in the early 1970s was carried out between the Electricity Corporation and the consulting engineers; there were no developers adding to the cost of the electrification costs.

It is the same way that heavy industrial projects are efficiently managed in developed countries.

As such, it is GPL who should be dealing directly with the IDB, project managers, designers and contractors.

According to Demerara Waves, “Sithe Global will operate the completed plant for 20 years before it is turned over to GPL. Wrobel said the plant should have another 70 to 80 years in it.” I don’t know what is the message being conveyed here.

Does Wrobel mean that Sithe will operate the plant for GPL for a fee or Sithe will own the plant for 20 years and determine the price GPL pays per Killowatt Hour?

So far as has been reported in the article, “The other major financiers of the project are the China Development Bank, China Railway First Group and the Norwegian government under the biodiversity agreement with Guyana.”

Sithe was not mentioned as one of the financiers and if it is being paid for the engineering, procurement and construction (EPC) its work should be completed after the power station has been commissioned. Why is necessary for Sithe to operate the plant for 20 years?

During the first 20 years of operation, the power plant will incur very little maintenance but as major parts erode from usage, maintenance will become a major part of operational costs. Furthermore, the possibility exists that Sithe will leave the plant is that same condition that Guyana received the Bauxite plant after it was nationalised.

That the plant will last another 70 – 80 years is no consolation as anyone who has operated an electricity generating plant is aware that power plant design evolve, materials evolve and parts become difficult to obtain and in many cases have to be custom made at higher prices than would have been the case. What does Wrobel mean by Savings of hundreds of millions of dollars?

The Road to the project should have been the responsibility of Public Works Department and not a developer. The works department should either have designed or have the road designed, awarded the contract for its construction and monitored the progress to ensure that it was being constructed to specification and, within schedule and cost.

As I said in my opening statement, the IDB should not partner the financing of this Hydroelectric Plant until proper project management is included in the contract.

Neville Quelch, B.A., PMP

Excellent letter in the Kaieteur news:

Link to letter

My approach is wind turbines around the shores of the Atlantic ocean, combined with Solar sheet fields and small hydro projects at short distances from cities and towns.

This large scale Hydro project is going to stick the government with a large us dollars bill for many many years to come. Plus, they will have to find the money to keep the jungle from taking over the hydro. Thus, making maintence cost another factor in the expanded cost. I think they should either scrap the project or scale it down to a small hydro.

quote:

Originally posted by Wally:
My approach is wind turbines around the shores of the Atlantic ocean, combined with Solar sheet fields and small hydro projects at short distances from cities and towns.

This large scale Hydro project is going to stick the government with a large us dollars bill for many many years to come. Plus, they will have to find the money to keep the jungle from taking over the hydro. Thus, making maintence cost another factor in the expanded cost. I think they should either scrap the project or scale it down to a small hydro.

Of course you overnight experts have done a feasibility study and determined that your "approach" is feasible. And you also did a feasibility study and determined that the hydro project will not bring the necessary returns to justify the cost.

Everyone seems to think it is only Jagdeo and the PPP behind this scam. The real brain behind it all is MR. Hinds. He walk in the shadow but with a big stick and is Fip and many other big dealers main contact. Sam is the brain man and probably the riches of them all. Anyway REv a see you now into politics now. LOL Keep up the good work

quote:

Originally posted by Wally:
My approach is wind turbines around the shores of the Atlantic ocean, combined with Solar sheet fields and small hydro projects at short distances from cities and towns.

This large scale Hydro project is going to stick the government with a large us dollars bill for many many years to come. Plus, they will have to find the money to keep the jungle from taking over the hydro. Thus, making maintence cost another factor in the expanded cost. I think they should either scrap the project or scale it down to a small hydro.

Bai, yuh know da operating cost fa dem wind turbines? Prablim is dem wind etc gatt nuff ongoing costs, dat hydro gatt high up-front but lower on-going. Mi lil invalve in dem ting donk hay, so mi know wah mi seh. Hydro is da best bet but abie gafa mek shore dem hah tief too much. Govt should outsource da project management and accounting but den dem PPP bais cyant cream aff. Dazz di prablim, not di project feasibility.

quote:

Originally posted by luvmigt:
Anyway REv a see you now into politics now. LOL Keep up the good work

luvmight:

In the name of the father, the son and the holy spirit---this amalia falls hydro project as currently structured would be horrendous for Guyana and Guyanese.

Sithe Global, Motilall, and some crooks in the government would make tens of millions---but the people of Guyana would perish.




THE HUGE DEBT WOULD SUFFOCATE THE COUNTRY.

A 450-500 million project would be financially feasible---an 850+ million project---no good.


Rev

quote:

Originally posted by Rev Al:

quote:

Originally posted by luvmigt:
Anyway REv a see you now into politics now. LOL Keep up the good work

luvmight:

In the name of the father, the son and the holy spirit---this amalia falls hydro project as currently structured would be horrendous for Guyana and Guyanese.

Sithe Global, Motilall, and some crooks in the government would make tens of millions---but the people of Guyana would perish.




THE HUGE DEBT WOULD SUFFOCATE THE COUNTRY.



Rev

Ow bai...once coolie pun tap debt nah mattah.

quote:

Originally posted by Pooran_Lall:
Ow bai...once coolie pun tap debt nah mattah.

Debt nah mattah ?

Let's wait on the IDB's verdict---I'd be shocked if they agree to put up the 175 million in International financing.

Dont get me wrong--the hydro project could be good for Guyana---but the way the amaila falls deal is structured--its terrible for the people of Guyana.

COST: 450 million--->850 million in 2 years and project hasn't started yet----US$12 million for Motilall, 50 million for Sithe executives, 25 million for Jagdeo and his cronies, etc, etc

Yuh tink Trotman, Granger, Ramjattan and company will get a piece of the action ?

Bottom line:

THE GUYANESE PEOPLE WILL BE FINANCIALLY SCREWED.

Rev

quote:

Originally posted by Rev Al:

quote:

Originally posted by Pooran_Lall:
Ow bai...once coolie pun tap debt nah mattah.

Debt nah mattah ?

Let's wait on the IDB's verdict---I'd be shocked if they agree to put up the 175 million in International financing.

Dont get me wrong--the hydro project could be good for Guyana---but the way the amaila falls deal is structured--its terrible for the people of Guyana.

COST: 450 million--->850 million in 2 years and project hasn't started yet----US$12 million for Motilall, 50 million for Sithe executives, 25 million for Jagdeo and his cronies, etc, etc

Yuh tink Trotman, Granger, Ramjattan and company will get a piece of the action ?

Bottom line:

THE GUYANESE PEOPLE WILL BE FINANCIALLY SCREWED.

Rev

Yes bai...meh see uh ah seh de same ting dem AFC bais bin a seh since lang time now. You went fuss wurl university nah?

quote:

Originally posted by Pooran_Lall:
Yes bai...meh see uh ah seh de same ting dem AFC bais bin a seh since lang time now. You went fuss wurl university nah?

Pooran:

You dont need University education to tell you that the 850 million amaila hydro would be a terrible investment for the people of Guyana.

COMMON SENSE--WHICH MOST PEOPLE WITH BOOK SENSE DONT HAVE--WILL TELL YOU THAT THIS AMAILA FALLS PROJECT SMELLS FISHY AND SHOULD BE DISCARDED.

Rev

quote:

Originally posted by Rev Al:

quote:

Originally posted by Pooran_Lall:
Yes bai...meh see uh ah seh de same ting dem AFC bais bin a seh since lang time now. You went fuss wurl university nah?

Pooran:

You dont need University education to tell you that the 850 million amaila hydro would be a terrible investment for the people of Guyana.

COMMON SENSE--WHICH MOST PEOPLE WITH BOOK SENSE DONT HAVE--WILL TELL YOU THAT THIS AMAILA FALLS PROJECT SMELLS FISHY AND SHOULD BE DISCARDED.

Rev

Yes bai common sense a wah abe need. Abe government common sense give abe skeldon and bridge tool. Abe common sense ah help abe send money ah India and Tailand fuh bank.

quote:

Originally posted by Pooran_Lall:
Yes bai common sense a wah abe need. Abe government common sense give abe skeldon and bridge tool. Abe common sense ah help abe send money ah India and Tailand fuh bank.

Pooran:

The intention behind the skeldon factory was good. It was the execution that was problematic.

The skeldon factory turned out to be too complex---the manuals are in chinese---and Guyanese workers dont have the technical skills to operate that factory at optimum capacity utilization.

HOPEFULLY THE PROBLEMS WILL BE SORTED OUT.

Rev

quote:

Originally posted by Rev Al:

quote:

Originally posted by Pooran_Lall:
Yes bai common sense a wah abe need. Abe government common sense give abe skeldon and bridge tool. Abe common sense ah help abe send money ah India and Tailand fuh bank.

Pooran:

The intention behind the skeldon factory was good. It was the execution that was problematic.

The skeldon factory turned out to be too complex---the manuals are in chinese---and Guyanese workers dont have the technical skills to operate that factory at optimum capacity utilization.

HOPEFULLY THE PROBLEMS WILL BE SORTED OUT.

Rev

Bai meh drap out ah school but meh bin larn abe a plant sugga a Berbice since dem Dutch man and Kuffy time. Ah how technical eh get suh since Kuffy time.

Nehru

why yuh don't shut yuh rass...you and your fellow PPPites on GNI were big time supporters of this fiasco when plenty here on GNI were saying this whole thing stinks...

Jagdeo should be investigated and face charges because I think he is going to get a huge payday from his buddy Flip

quote:

Originally posted by Pooran_Lall:
Bai meh drap out ah school but meh bin larn abe a plant sugga a Berbice since dem Dutch man and Kuffy time. Ah how technical eh get suh since Kuffy time.

Pooran:

Guyana now produces 220-250,000 tons of sugar.

The skeldon factory was designed to produce 450,000 tons.

The skeldon factory also has a cogeneration facility---it produces electricity from bagasse---10 MW of power---its a complex operation.

A lot of the modern sugar factories around the world initially have technical problems.

Skeldon will solve its problems eventually.

Another thing Pooran---skeldon can produce 450,000 tons of sugar---but with cane cutters like you emigrating to the US---the sugar industry has a shortage of workers.

Rev

quote:

Originally posted by Rev Al:

quote:

Originally posted by Pooran_Lall:
Bai meh drap out ah school but meh bin larn abe a plant sugga a Berbice since dem Dutch man and Kuffy time. Ah how technical eh get suh since Kuffy time.

Pooran:

Guyana now produces 220-250,000 tons of sugar.

The skeldon factory was designed to produce 450,000 tons.

The skeldon factory also has a cogeneration facility---it produces electricity from bagasse---10 MW of power---its a complex operation.

A lot of the modern sugar factories around the world initially have technical problems.

Skeldon will solve its problems eventually.

Another thing Pooran---skeldon can produce 450,000 tons of sugar---but with cane cutters like you emigrating to the US---the sugar industry has a shortage of workers.

Rev

Shortage and abe nah get wuk? Bai lil hard fuh me undastan.

quote:

Originally posted by Pooran_Lall:
Shortage and abe nah get wuk? Bai lil hard fuh me undastan.

Former agri minister Robert P says inclement---that's a big word for bad weather--- bad weather conditions affected the sugar industry---that's why you cane cutters didn't get enough work.

Rev

quote:

Originally posted by raymond:
Jagdeo should be investigated and face charges because I think he is going to get a huge payday from his buddy Flip

ray:

Who will investigate Jags, Irfan Ali, Robert Persaud, etc, etc ?

Moses ? Ramjattan ? Trotman ? Granger ? WHO ?

Granger is happy with his opposition leader financial package---he has zero intention of rocking the boat.

THE AFC SAID THEY WILL HELP WEED OUT CORRUPTION.

Let's see how many government officials they bring charges against.

And let's see if they help kill the fishy amaila falls project.

Rev

quote:

Originally posted by BGurd_See:

quote:

Originally posted by Wally:


My approach is wind turbines around the shores of the Atlantic ocean, combined with Solar sheet fields and small hydro projects at short distances from cities and towns.

This large scale Hydro project is going to stick the government with a large us dollars bill for many many years to come. Plus, they will have to find the money to keep the jungle from taking over the hydro. Thus, making maintence cost another factor in the expanded cost. I think they should either scrap the project or scale it down to a small hydro.

Of course you overnight experts have done a feasibility study and determined that your "approach" is feasible. And you also did a feasibility study and determined that the hydro project will not bring the necessary returns to justify the cost.

I know more about Guyana than some foreign expert who spend three months in Guyana living in some expensive hotel in Georgetown while occasionally visiting the interior of the country and then telling the Guyana government that wind and solar cannot work. I am not looking at the large scale wind mills that are massive but many small windmills that are cheap to maintain and repair while together produce just as much energy as the larger models.

Also having fields of solar sheets can contribute alot of energy. The large scale Hydro is the way to go but in the Guyana context it cannot work because it will be hell to build and maintain in the thick dense jungle. Small scale Hydros near cities and towns would be better. The government should identify areas rivers and creeks near cities and towns by etc where smalle scale hydros can be set up to generate electricity



.



You gon tell me that a country like Guyana with so much rivers and creeks cannot construct water mills like the one in the picture to produce energy. Water mills might be made of wood and is old time technology for the west but in Guyana (with plenty of wood) it would not cost much to maintain and is sustainable, If we build 40 water mills in creeks and rivers think about how much energy it will produce. Every creek on the linden Highway should have a water mill.

quote:

Originally posted by Wally:

I know more about Guyana than some foreign expert who spend three months in Guyana living in some expensive hotel in Georgetown while occasionally visiting the interior of the country and then telling the Guyana government that wind and solar cannot work.

What were the findings of the studies about wind and solar power projects in Guyana?

quote:

Originally posted by Wally:

My approach is wind turbines around the shores of the Atlantic ocean, combined with Solar sheet fields and small hydro projects at short distances from cities and towns.

What is the comparison with your ideas and what were actually studied for the area?