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AN UNMERITORIOUS PROPOSAL

February 14, 2014 | By | Filed Under Features / Columnists, Peeping Tom 

The last-minute proposals tabled by APNU should not be taken seriously. On merit, they are highly deficient proposals and only lend credibility to the view that their belated submission was to deflect the criticisms made by the government that APNU had not tabled any proposals.
One of the proposals would actually, in the words of the Attorney General, turn cash above a certain amount into contraband. The proposals aimed at giving the police powers to search and detain any sum in excess of two million dollars, which is equivalent to around ten thousand United States dollars.
The proposal by APNU would have the effect for any person or entity having in excess of two million dollars in cash of triggering an immediate criminal suspicion of money laundering. Why else would the police be given power to search and detain in respect to such currency?
The proposal by APNU places under criminal suspicion, persons holding more than two million dollars in cash. This is ridiculous, because the laws of most countries do not do this. The laws of most countries, including the United States of America, require that you declare all cash in excess of ten thousand US dollars or its equivalent.
It is not a crime to have such sums. It is only a crime to enter and leave the jurisdiction without declaring the currency. The currency can be forfeited if not declared, but the mere fact that currency is being brought in or taken out of a jurisdiction does not create any suspicion of a criminal offence and so long as there is not this suspicion, the police have no grounds on which to detain it.
APNU’s proposal is draconian. The existing laws do not grant to the police any such powers and to vest them with such arbitrary powers would lead to tremendous abuse of the rights of citizens.
APNU’s proposal would also have the effect of raising criminal suspicion, so long as someone has two million Guyana dollars or its equivalent on them. The detaining of this sum without just cause, however temporary, constitutes a deprivation of property. Such deprivation is ultra vires of the Constitution of Guyana.
APNU’s proposal is not practical. It cannot be implemented without causing a major disruption to the entire economy of this country.
It will create untenable situations. Two million dollars is chicken feed for most businesses in Guyana. There are cakes shops in Guyana which keep more than this sum because they use it for stocks from various sales trucks. The shopkeepers cannot go to the bank every time a different sales truck is due, because they make multiple purchases. As such, most of them have considerable cash in hand to pay the sales trucks.
If these shopkeepers have to stop keeping cash in hand they will have to have an alternative means of paying. Beginning to pay with cheque they will not get their goods right away, because the sales company will want to first verify that the funds are available before they release the goods.
When persons are building their homes, they are required to purchase materials for construction. These materials are not cheap. Persons also shop around for bargains. This means that when someone is purchasing building materials, they usually take a drawdown from the bank to buy their materials. These materials cost millions of dollars and the disbursements from the banks usually reflect such large sums at any one instant.
If APNU’s ridiculous proposal is accepted, it would mean that almost every person building a home could be liable to be searched by the police and the millions they have in their possession seized.
Businesses will also be affected. There are some nightclubs in Guyana whose turnover on weekends amounts to millions. If APNU’s proposals are accepted, it will place these businesses in serious jeopardy, because how will they transport this sum on weekends for the banks and what happens if when they are transporting it they are stopped by the police.
Apart from creating criminal suspicion and apart from being impractical, there is more terminal defect in APNU’s proposal. APNU seems to be concentrating on cash transactions.
Any schoolchild would however advise that the bulk of laundered funds are not held in cash. The bulk of funds laundered are held in other assets, including fixed assets.
APNU is therefore in the wide outfield, it is way off-mark with its thinking on money laundering. The least of its worries should be cash transactions. It should be more concerned with businesses which are fronts for laundering, including businesses which are being established using funds stolen or obtained via corrupt transactions from the public treasury.
APNU has seriously undermined its credibility by the proposal that it has made. It cannot and should not be taken seriously.

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RE:If these shopkeepers have to stop keeping cash in hand they will have to have an alternative means of paying. Beginning to pay with cheque they will not get their goods right away, because the sales company will want to first verify that the funds are available before they release the goods.

 

 

 

Is it not better for the shopkeeper to be using chqs instead of cash as done in any other country for the safety of the shopkeeper/delivery people? When dealing with companies, you have an account, they deliver, you send out a chq, story done.

No need to be keeping US 9k in the store, this looks like candy to the perps.

cain
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The crooks in the aFc/pnc want to bring back the good old days of shaking down business people as was done in the Burnham years. I see the cocaine man want those old days back as it will provide opportunity to get he freak on with lil bais. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

The crooks in the aFc/pnc want to bring back the good old days of shaking down business people as was done in the Burnham years. I see the cocaine man want those old days back as it will provide opportunity to get he freak on with lil bais. 

Ray, of what purpose is this stupid post?

Mitwah

The last-minute proposals tabled by APNU should not be taken seriously. On merit, they are highly deficient proposals and only lend credibility to the view that their belated submission was to deflect the criticisms made by the government that APNU had not tabled any proposals.
One of the proposals would actually, in the words of the Attorney General, turn cash above a certain amount into contraband.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

The crooks in the aFc/pnc want to bring back the good old days of shaking down business people as was done in the Burnham years. I see the cocaine man want those old days back as it will provide opportunity to get he freak on with lil bais. 

You are still an idiot

cain
Last edited by cain
Originally Posted by Conscience:

The last-minute proposals tabled by APNU should not be taken seriously. On merit, they are highly deficient proposals and only lend credibility to the view that their belated submission was to deflect the criticisms made by the government that APNU had not tabled any proposals.
One of the proposals would actually, in the words of the Attorney General, turn cash above a certain amount into contraband.

So?

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by Conscience:

Guyana is still a cash based economy, it cannot change within days....

It will hamper you and the PPP's ability to wash money, if it is changed.

yeh mits I heard chqs harder fo wash, dat true nuh?

cain
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

The crooks in the aFc/pnc want to bring back the good old days of shaking down business people as was done in the Burnham years. I see the cocaine man want those old days back as it will provide opportunity to get he freak on with lil bais. 

Ray, of what purpose is this stupid post?

See Mits, this is the kind of crap that starts to bring down this place. Now here I'm actually chatting with my good good fren Mr Conscience when up comes this Goadyman stick his sack right in the middle BADDAM and start talk shit.

 

I agree, ray should give him a slap upside the goad for this.

cain
Last edited by cain
Originally Posted by Conscience:

Guyana is still a cash based economy, it cannot change within days....

Conscience, with due respect, this is the year 2014.

How long will Guyana take to de-emphasize cash transactions?

Since 1995 the commercial banks started issuing debit cards.

GPL, GT&T and other entities are accepting bill payments online.

In the 1980s I knew some teachers who had opted for their salaries to be deposited directly to their personal bank accounts.

Why hasn't there been a progression towards more direct deposits, electronic funds transfers, telephone banking, etc.?

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by Conscience:

Guyana is still a cash based economy, it cannot change within days....

Conscience, with due respect, this is the year 2014.

How long will Guyana take to de-emphasize cash transactions?

Since 1995 the commercial banks started issuing debit cards.

GPL, GT&T and other entities are accepting bill payments online.

In the 1980s I knew some teachers who had opted for their salaries to be deposited directly to their personal bank accounts.

Why hasn't there been a progression towards more direct deposits, electronic funds transfers, telephone banking, etc.?

In case you are implying this is the fault of govt, it is not. The banking system, businesses and customers all have to cooperate to make this happen. 

FM

The Guyanese people anger with the opposition is getting worse..  They are losing patience with these crooks who want to take control of the society Burnham-style. It's the only way they know how to govern. The latest proposal made by APNU is testimony to their tyrannical mania. 

Billy Ram Balgobin
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

The Guyanese people anger with the opposition is getting worse..  They are losing patience with these crooks who want to take control of the society Burnham-style. It's the only way they know how to govern. The latest proposal made by APNU is testimony to their tyrannical mania. 

How come you know all this and you didn't know a thing about Windsor Estates?

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

The Guyanese people anger with the opposition is getting worse..  They are losing patience with these crooks who want to take control of the society Burnham-style. It's the only way they know how to govern. The latest proposal made by APNU is testimony to their tyrannical mania. 

FYI my niece who works in a bank here in the US told me they are require to flag any cash deposit over 3k. A ten 10k cash transaction in the US is an automatic call to the feds. Actually if the PPP is serious about reducing crime they should implement law to make it mandatory for vendors with sales exceeding a certain amount accept  Atm card for purchases.

I visited and stayed in Guyana over 4 months last year and never carry more than 20,000 [U$100.00] cash and never had an issue paying for services.

The notion that Guyana is a cash base economy also is totally false. I use checking account as well as an ATM card and believe it or not VISA card to pay for purchases to more than 95% of vendors. 

I have to admit that some business encourage thieves and would start to name a few here like at DaSilver eye care in middle street should be avoided, knowing that their services cost lots of money the choke n' rob would naturally target folks in and out of their business. Even though  I give them hell they demand cash only for service....  

sachin_05
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