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Y'all NY'ers prappa funny. Y'all having fun because the team that went to the NBA finals in each of the last four years and won two of the first three decisions is struggling through this fourth one. Well I guess it is some comfort given the state of affairs of y'all own teams most recent the collapse of the NY Rangers who lost the Stanley Cup Finals 4 games to 1 even though they were leading in three of those four losses. Outside of the Yankees, y'all have nothing to cheer about and Ray Ray never get to cheer because he is a Mets fan.

 

So y'all are forced to become fans or haters of other teams. Y'all carry on. After all Melo is gone this year. Y'all can continue enjoying JR Smith's antics.  

FM
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Ksaazzz it's about the organization. The two most popular NY franchises are the football Giants and the Yankees. They have solid stable organizations and a winning culture.

 

The Mets and Jets are a ragamuffin crew. Look at their lineage and you will see why they are not as successful.

 

The Rangers and the Knicks have the same owner. Nuff said! They both are trying to change that culture.

 

Miami has been a more successful franchise than the Orlando Magic. You can see the difference in the organization.

 

I root for the home teams and am lucky that I gravitated to the Giants and Yankees since the 85-85 season. I've lived with the Knicks and I hope they clean stuff up.

Kari
Originally Posted by Kari:

Ksaazzz it's about the organization. The two most popular NY franchises are the football Giants and the Yankees. They have solid stable organizations and a winning culture.

 

The Mets and Jets are a ragamuffin crew. Look at their lineage and you will see why they are not as successful.

 

The Rangers and the Knicks have the same owner. Nuff said! They both are trying to change that culture.

 

Miami has been a more successful franchise than the Orlando Magic. You can see the difference in the organization.

 

I root for the home teams and am lucky that I gravitated to the Giants and Yankees since the 85-85 season. I've lived with the Knicks and I hope they clean stuff up.

Well said.

FM
Originally Posted by ksazma:

Y'all NY'ers prappa funny. Y'all having fun because the team that went to the NBA finals in each of the last four years and won two of the first three decisions is struggling through this fourth one. Well I guess it is some comfort given the state of affairs of y'all own teams most recent the collapse of the NY Rangers who lost the Stanley Cup Finals 4 games to 1 even though they were leading in three of those four losses. Outside of the Yankees, y'all have nothing to cheer about and Ray Ray never get to cheer because he is a Mets fan.

 

So y'all are forced to become fans or haters of other teams. Y'all carry on. After all Melo is gone this year. Y'all can continue enjoying JR Smith's antics.  

yuh think is only NYers enjoy seeing the Heat get beat?

FM
Originally Posted by raymond:
Originally Posted by ksazma:

Y'all NY'ers prappa funny. Y'all having fun because the team that went to the NBA finals in each of the last four years and won two of the first three decisions is struggling through this fourth one. Well I guess it is some comfort given the state of affairs of y'all own teams most recent the collapse of the NY Rangers who lost the Stanley Cup Finals 4 games to 1 even though they were leading in three of those four losses. Outside of the Yankees, y'all have nothing to cheer about and Ray Ray never get to cheer because he is a Mets fan.

 

So y'all are forced to become fans or haters of other teams. Y'all carry on. After all Melo is gone this year. Y'all can continue enjoying JR Smith's antics.  

yuh think is only NYers enjoy seeing the Heat get beat?


No. Everywhere he did not choose to play because they cannot accept his right to decide where he wants to play. Dominique Wilkins works for the Hawks front office now. He was on one of our local radio and stated that he did not think that Miami Heat's super team is good for parity in the NBA. When asked how he would feel those three were on his team, he predictably replied that he wouldn't mind. Suddenly parity did matter that much to him anymore. What you gonna do if LeBron comes to the Knicks next year? Is he still going to be LeFraud?  

FM
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by raymond:
Originally Posted by ksazma:

Y'all NY'ers prappa funny. Y'all having fun because the team that went to the NBA finals in each of the last four years and won two of the first three decisions is struggling through this fourth one. Well I guess it is some comfort given the state of affairs of y'all own teams most recent the collapse of the NY Rangers who lost the Stanley Cup Finals 4 games to 1 even though they were leading in three of those four losses. Outside of the Yankees, y'all have nothing to cheer about and Ray Ray never get to cheer because he is a Mets fan.

 

So y'all are forced to become fans or haters of other teams. Y'all carry on. After all Melo is gone this year. Y'all can continue enjoying JR Smith's antics.  

yuh think is only NYers enjoy seeing the Heat get beat?


No. Everywhere he did not choose to play because they cannot accept his right to decide where he wants to play. Dominique Wilkins works for the Hawks front office now. He was on one of our local radio and stated that he did not think that Miami Heat's super team is good for parity in the NBA. When asked how he would feel those three were on his team, he predictably replied that he wouldn't mind. Suddenly parity did matter that much to him anymore. What you gonna do if LeBron comes to the Knicks next year? Is he still going to be LeFraud?  

he not coming to the Knicks....it will be better for his legacy if he stays in Miami...yuh actin like Miami will still love him if he leaves

Same way I used to hate Jordan and the BUlls....so why should I treat the HEat differently?

FM

My question still stands.

 

LeBron went to a ready-made team. Michael built a championship team with what he had.

 

Which approach you resonate with?

 

Michael would take this same Miami team and make it win more than LeBron. That you can debate, but Scottie turned out to be an NBA great. Would he have been that on another team? Bosh and Wade were already All-Stars and Superstars and Wade had won a championship. Who were Michale's notables Grant, Rodman, Kerr,Paxon? Think about it.

Kari
Originally Posted by raymond:
 

he not coming to the Knicks....it will be better for his legacy if he stays in Miami...yuh actin like Miami will still love him if he leaves

Same way I used to hate Jordan and the BUlls....so why should I treat the HEat differently?

Yuh gaffo stop hating bai. Yuh gettin' too old fuh dat shit.

FM
Originally Posted by raymond:

btw, this is nothing about him having the right to decide where he wants to play...most people did not like the way he went about it...too much drama

Everyone is guilty of creating that environment. People all over the country were hold rallies begging LeBron to go to their team. I was driving to Toronto and saw vehicles plastered with signs even though there are no NBA teams near Albany. ESPN wanted the drama enough to pay him millions for his appearance on their network. They too were exploiting LeBron. The only person who was benevolent throughout that episode was LeBron who sent that whole check to a charity organization. Very difficult to objectively hate LeBron but I guess 'what does objectiveness have to do with it'

FM
Originally Posted by Kari:

My question still stands.

 

LeBron went to a ready-made team. Michael built a championship team with what he had.

 

Which approach you resonate with?

 

Michael would take this same Miami team and make it win more than LeBron. That you can debate, but Scottie turned out to be an NBA great. Would he have been that on another team? Bosh and Wade were already All-Stars and Superstars and Wade had won a championship. Who were Michale's notables Grant, Rodman, Kerr,Paxon? Think about it.

From my perspective, I prefer LeBron's game better than Michael's so you are asking the wrong person bai.

FM
Mullah Empty Kakwari, which team Jordan built?

On that 91 squad deh plucked Cartwright away from ur NickNax and Packson from god knows where, without those two they don't win couple crucial games that playoffs. Same in other years, they brought in key FA to help his ass win namely Rodman and Kerr.
Suh kere yuh Cunny suh
FM
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by raymond:
 

he not coming to the Knicks....it will be better for his legacy if he stays in Miami...yuh actin like Miami will still love him if he leaves

Same way I used to hate Jordan and the BUlls....so why should I treat the HEat differently?

Yuh gaffo stop hating bai. Yuh gettin' too old fuh dat shit.

dis is b'ball hatin...not real life

FM
Originally Posted by raymond:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
I agree it is about the Heat and you can ask any Heat fan if they would trade away the past four years and you will be disappointed. Secondly if it is about the Heat, where do you and Nehru fit in except as disillusioned Knicks fans.

WE got hope

Ksaazzz, as a fan you are right to have enjoyed the last 4 years, and to even welcome the break last year. You are right to have optimism for next year with Pat Riley at the helm and Spoelstra as coach. I would look at the Spurs though and say "My God" and wonder who can beat this team next year even if Tim Duncan were to retire (and he says he won't).

 

What you should begin to answer in your mind though is the question that seems to have Singer in a tizzy, and that is LeBron's legacy. When I mention collusion in his journey to South Beach as opposed to MJ using what he got, he chooses to ignore that LeBron, Bosh and Wade had conversations about taking pay cuts and settling in Miami ALL THE WHILE THEY WERE TALKING TO OTHER TEAMS ABOUT FREE AGENCY.

 

The Yankees buy players; other teams do. No one envies Miami for doing it, but I was not addressing that. I was addressing the COLLUSION. So tell that rabid man the difference between Miami being within its rights and a group of players colluding. That's why the world did not like the "Decision" and the "not one, not two...." that followed. It is why mislead other the world.

Kari
Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by raymond:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
I agree it is about the Heat and you can ask any Heat fan if they would trade away the past four years and you will be disappointed. Secondly if it is about the Heat, where do you and Nehru fit in except as disillusioned Knicks fans.

WE got hope

Ksaazzz, as a fan you are right to have enjoyed the last 4 years, and to even welcome the break last year. You are right to have optimism for next year with Pat Riley at the helm and Spoelstra as coach. I would look at the Spurs though and say "My God" and wonder who can beat this team next year even if Tim Duncan were to retire (and he says he won't).

 

What you should begin to answer in your mind though is the question that seems to have Singer in a tizzy, and that is LeBron's legacy. When I mention collusion in his journey to South Beach as opposed to MJ using what he got, he chooses to ignore that LeBron, Bosh and Wade had conversations about taking pay cuts and settling in Miami ALL THE WHILE THEY WERE TALKING TO OTHER TEAMS ABOUT FREE AGENCY.

 

The Yankees buy players; other teams do. No one envies Miami for doing it, but I was not addressing that. I was addressing the COLLUSION. So tell that rabid man the difference between Miami being within its rights and a group of players colluding. That's why the world did not like the "Decision" and the "not one, not two...." that followed. It is why mislead other the world.

What LeBron did was totally legal and within the laws of the NBA and the land. Kudos to him for exploring all viable options available to him and settling for the one best suited for him. LeBron's legacy is intact where it matters the most. 

Mars
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Originally Posted by raymond:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
I agree it is about the Heat and you can ask any Heat fan if they would trade away the past four years and you will be disappointed. Secondly if it is about the Heat, where do you and Nehru fit in except as disillusioned Knicks fans.

WE got hope

Y'all already been having that for the last two decades.

FM
Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by raymond:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
I agree it is about the Heat and you can ask any Heat fan if they would trade away the past four years and you will be disappointed. Secondly if it is about the Heat, where do you and Nehru fit in except as disillusioned Knicks fans.

WE got hope

Ksaazzz, as a fan you are right to have enjoyed the last 4 years, and to even welcome the break last year. You are right to have optimism for next year with Pat Riley at the helm and Spoelstra as coach. I would look at the Spurs though and say "My God" and wonder who can beat this team next year even if Tim Duncan were to retire (and he says he won't).

 

What you should begin to answer in your mind though is the question that seems to have Singer in a tizzy, and that is LeBron's legacy. When I mention collusion in his journey to South Beach as opposed to MJ using what he got, he chooses to ignore that LeBron, Bosh and Wade had conversations about taking pay cuts and settling in Miami ALL THE WHILE THEY WERE TALKING TO OTHER TEAMS ABOUT FREE AGENCY.

 

The Yankees buy players; other teams do. No one envies Miami for doing it, but I was not addressing that. I was addressing the COLLUSION. So tell that rabid man the difference between Miami being within its rights and a group of players colluding. That's why the world did not like the "Decision" and the "not one, not two...." that followed. It is why mislead other the world.

No amount of collusion would be enough get these three players together. They had to take shortened contracts during their prime in 2007 when they could have taken the greedy approach of more years and more guaranteed dollars. Since that was not enough, they had to take pay cuts when they all signed in 2010 when both Wade and James were being chased by many teams with LeBron by every one. They will have another decision to make within the next few weeks. And as you mentioned, their show of class at the end of that series. Yet so many hate them. All this nonsense of collusion is a waste of energy especially in light of the sacrifices they made to play together. I don't care about Jordan. He is from another time that has no consequence on today. I am not going to miss exceptional plays today being occupied with the stars of the past. 

FM
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by raymond:

btw, this is nothing about him having the right to decide where he wants to play...most people did not like the way he went about it...too much drama

Everyone is guilty of creating that environment. People all over the country were hold rallies begging LeBron to go to their team. I was driving to Toronto and saw vehicles plastered with signs even though there are no NBA teams near Albany. ESPN wanted the drama enough to pay him millions for his appearance on their network. They too were exploiting LeBron. The only person who was benevolent throughout that episode was LeBron who sent that whole check to a charity organization. Very difficult to objectively hate LeBron but I guess 'what does objectiveness have to do with it'

Do you remember when Knick fans were preparing for LeBron for a couple of years and then they got left holding their balls in their hands. Bwahahaha. No wonder four years later they are still behaving so bitchy when it comes to LeBron.

 

 

 

 

Mars
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