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Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
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Then maybe you need to post a study about the IndoG's before you make these fictitious claims.  By the same token I can say that AfroGs have a major problem robbing and killing Indians. 

I think that any assertion by you that Caribbean Indians do not have serious issues with alcoholism will be met with laughter from most, and concern by those who worry about that problem.

 

Indos have problems of being robbed and killed by other Indians too.  You forgot to include that.

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by caribny:

. . . Crime is a growing problem in Guyana among Indians. I can only imagine if the average Indian male was built like a black man, instead of being shorter, thinner, and presumably weaker, how bad Indian crime would be.  Due to these limitation Indo criminals confine their acts to other Indians.

CaribJ, this is a crude racist stereotype . . . absurd and offensive on so many levels

 

just because the proud PPP bigots on this MB revel in this sort of thing does not make it OK . . .


Violent crime is more likely to be committed by people who are bigger built as they inspire more fear.

 

It is indeed a fact that Guyanese African men and women have bigger builds than Indians.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

I think that any assertion by you that Caribbean Indians do not have serious issues with alcoholism will be met with laughter from most, and concern by those who worry about that problem.

 

Indos have problems of being robbed and killed by other Indians too.  You forgot to include that.

I will rely on a survey rather than you urban legend logic. 

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by caribny:

. . . Crime is a growing problem in Guyana among Indians. I can only imagine if the average Indian male was built like a black man, instead of being shorter, thinner, and presumably weaker, how bad Indian crime would be.  Due to these limitation Indo criminals confine their acts to other Indians.

CaribJ, this is a crude racist stereotype . . . absurd and offensive on so many levels

 

just because the proud PPP bigots on this MB revel in this sort of thing does not make it OK . . .


Violent crime is more likely to be committed by people who are bigger built as they inspire more fear.

 

It is indeed a fact that Guyanese African men and women have bigger builds than Indians.

i fail to understand what these two facts you cite have to do with crime and race in Guyana

 

Mexicans are on average a comparatively small people . . . i think u have knowledge of the incidence of violent crime south of the border

 

this conversation is bordering on the absurd 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

I think that any assertion by you that Caribbean Indians do not have serious issues with alcoholism will be met with laughter from most, and concern by those who worry about that problem.

 

Indos have problems of being robbed and killed by other Indians too.  You forgot to include that.

I will rely on a survey rather than you urban legend logic. 


It is easy to google much about alcoholism and suicides and Indo Caribbean males.  Indeed which other culture has so many songs dedicated to rum..."rum til I die". etc.

 

If you wish to believe that blacks have worse problems with alcoholism feel free.

 

As to drug abuse as I stated I have no opinion on which group consumes more in Guyana, aside from those rich Portuguese boys that is.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
 


It is easy to google much about alcoholism and suicides and Indo Caribbean males.  Indeed which other culture has so many songs dedicated to rum..."rum til I die". etc.

 

If you wish to believe that blacks have worse problems with alcoholism feel free.

 

As to drug abuse as I stated I have no opinion on which group consumes more in Guyana, aside from those rich Portuguese boys that is.

Google of articles and blogs is not a comprehensive study nor would it qualify as evidence in any court of law.  Just as how you claimed that Black Guyanese and Indian Guyanese are on equal economic footing in the US, it is shallow and lacks the foundation in fact. 

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
 

i fail to understand what these two facts you cite have to do with crime and race in Guyana

 

Mexicans are on average a comparatively small people . . . i think u have knowledge of the incidence of violent crime south of the border

 

this conversation is bordering on the absurd 

 

 

The reality is that men who have bigger body frames, all things being equal, inspire more fear.  The biggest weapon of a violent criminal is their ability to inspire fear.  Because they usually select victims who they perceive to be weaker than they and less likely to retaliate.

 

Now if one is operating with a highly developed gang network, as the Mexicans have then small size is off set by organization.  But crime in Guyana, aside from drug dealing, is not that organized.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
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Google of articles and blogs is not a comprehensive study nor would it qualify as evidence in any court of law.  Just as how you claimed that Black Guyanese and Indian Guyanese are on equal economic footing in the US, it is shallow and lacks the foundation in fact. 


OK MR dont know what 10% of 43% is.  One googles to find credible sources and then one reads those sources and draws a conclusion.  Google is the new library.

 

I find it interesting that have yet to furnish any solid proof about the comparative socio economic status about Indo and Afro Caribbean people in NYC, aside from some long irrelevant notion that "Indians save more".  That ended 2 generations ago.  Indians are as much in the consumerist society, in Guyana and in the USA as every one else is.  That old story of the Indian walking around in rags with his bundle packed with cash is over 50 years old.

 

And aside from the few wealthy business people most had little to leave for their kids.  This is why over 90% of Guyanese Indians in NYC do not own businesses.

 

Basically all your comments reveal is that your ego is highly dependent on some notion that blacks are inferior to Indians.  Then you accuse me of being a racist??

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by redux:
 

i fail to understand what these two facts you cite have to do with crime and race in Guyana

 

Mexicans are on average a comparatively small people . . . i think u have knowledge of the incidence of violent crime south of the border

 

this conversation is bordering on the absurd 

 

 

The reality is that men who have bigger body frames, all things being equal, inspire more fear.  The biggest weapon of a violent criminal is their ability to inspire fear.  Because they usually select victims who they perceive to be weaker than they and less likely to retaliate.

 

Now if one is operating with a highly developed gang network, as the Mexicans have then small size is off set by organization.  But crime in Guyana, aside from drug dealing, is not that organized.

dude, other than domestic violence, what class of confrontational, violent [Black on Indo?] crime are you talking about?

 

today's violent, career criminal is an ARMED, desperate sort who is not shy about unleashing deadly force on his victim . . . of whatever size or race

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
 

today's violent, career criminal is an ARMED, desperate sort who is not shy about unleashing deadly force on his victim . . . of whatever size or race

And yet an armed criminal will sooner mug a man who they think is weaker than they are.  Ask any little old lady.

 

The gun is there mainly to scare, not to be used, because murder carries higher penalties than robbery.  A strong man might be "silly" enough to fight and force them to shoot.

 

Also not every bandit has a gun.  A knife is still a mugger's tool.

 

I am talking about robberies and as far as I know all races are victimized, though it does appear from newspaper articles that in Guyana Indians are the usual targets of Indian bandits. Whereas blacks rob who they wish. You can try to figure out why.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by redux:
 

today's violent, career criminal is an ARMED, desperate sort who is not shy about unleashing deadly force on his victim . . . of whatever size or race

And yet an armed criminal will sooner mug a man who they think is weaker than they are.  Ask any little old lady.

 

The gun is there mainly to scare, not to be used, because murder carries higher penalties than robbery.  A strong man might be "silly" enough to fight and force them to shoot.

 

Also not every bandit has a gun.  A knife is still a mugger's tool.

 

I am talking about robberies and as far as I know all races are victimized, though it does appear from newspaper articles that in Guyana Indians are the usual targets of Indian bandits. Whereas blacks rob who they wish. You can try to figure out why.

CaribJ, let's cut to the chase . . . is it your position that the limiting factor governing the level of Indo on Afro "robberies" in Guyana is relative (average) physical size?

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:

. . . Crime is a growing problem in Guyana among Indians. I can only imagine if the average Indian male was built like a black man, instead of being shorter, thinner, and presumably weaker, how bad Indian crime would be.  Due to these limitation Indo criminals confine their acts to other Indians.

A lil "piece" has neutralized the advantage of size.  And besides, lil Chinese guys would kick the ass of most bigger Black guys due to martial arts training.

 

Crime is not about size, it's about mindset.  Blacks have a mindset of entitlement and as such seek to take what they perceived as "theirs" in there eyes, they justify "taking" it.  Most of the rest of humanity view it as "thief".

 

Also, Blacks attack in packs.  I knew a tough Indian guy kick the shit out of Taps at the Cultural Center in 1980 but then about 10 of his guys joined in and beat him.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:

. . . Crime is not about size, it's about mindset.  Blacks have a mindset of entitlement and as such seek to take what they perceived as "theirs" in there eyes, they justify "taking" it.  Most of the rest of humanity view it as "thief" . . .

aaarrrite baseman . . . we already know how u and de other 'anti-PNC' Indo racists feel bout blackman

 

rest lil

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by redux:
 

today's violent, career criminal is an ARMED, desperate sort who is not shy about unleashing deadly force on his victim . . . of whatever size or race

And yet an armed criminal will sooner mug a man who they think is weaker than they are.  Ask any little old lady.

 

The gun is there mainly to scare, not to be used, because murder carries higher penalties than robbery.  A strong man might be "silly" enough to fight and force them to shoot.

 

Also not every bandit has a gun.  A knife is still a mugger's tool.

 

I am talking about robberies and as far as I know all races are victimized, though it does appear from newspaper articles that in Guyana Indians are the usual targets of Indian bandits. Whereas blacks rob who they wish. You can try to figure out why.

CaribJ, let's cut to the chase . . . is it your position that the limiting factor governing the level of Indo on Afro "robberies" in Guyana is relative (average) physical size?


Redux based on newspaper reports Indo bandits attack Indos.  Afro bandits attack every body.  It doesnt appear as if Afros have much reason to fear Indo bandits, though Indos have clear reasons to fear them, as many Corentyne fishermen will tell you.

 

I offered my theory about why this happens.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by caribny:

. . . Crime is a growing problem in Guyana among Indians. I can only imagine if the average Indian male was built like a black man, instead of being shorter, thinner, and presumably weaker, how bad Indian crime would be.  Due to these limitation Indo criminals confine their acts to other Indians.

A lil "piece" has neutralized the advantage of size.  And besides, lil Chinese guys would kick the ass of most bigger Black guys due to martial arts training.

 

Crime is not about size, it's about mindset.  Blacks have a mindset of entitlement and as such seek to take what they perceived as "theirs" in there eyes, they justify "taking" it.  Most of the rest of humanity view it as "thief".

 

Also, Blacks attack in packs.  I knew a tough Indian guy kick the shit out of Taps at the Cultural Center in 1980 but then about 10 of his guys joined in and beat him.


So baseman esplain why there are more Indo criminals than before.  If you deny this fact then you will reveal that you are indeed a racist.

 

Note that Indos attack Indos, but then it doesnt matter to you, because the attacker is not black.

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:

. . . Crime is not about size, it's about mindset.  Blacks have a mindset of entitlement and as such seek to take what they perceived as "theirs" in there eyes, they justify "taking" it.  Most of the rest of humanity view it as "thief" . . .

aaarrrite baseman . . . we already know how u and de other 'anti-PNC' Indo racists feel bout blackman

 

rest lil


Yes if an Indo rapes an Indo it isnt a rape.  Only if a black man rapes an Indo does it qualify.  And ditto for criminal activity.  Based on newspaper accounts Indo gangs are usually quite large.  Afros will attack in 2 and 3.

 

The thing is that baseman knows full well that more Indo youths are turning to crime.  He doesnt care the slightest that their victims are almost always Indian.

 

By the way baseman Indos will attack in LARGER groups than will blacks.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:

. . . Crime is not about size, it's about mindset.  Blacks have a mindset of entitlement and as such seek to take what they perceived as "theirs" in there eyes, they justify "taking" it.  Most of the rest of humanity view it as "thief" . . .

aaarrrite baseman . . . we already know how u and de other 'anti-PNC' Indo racists feel bout blackman

 

rest lil


Yes if an Indo rapes an Indo it isnt a rape.  Only if a black man rapes an Indo does it qualify.  And ditto for criminal activity.  Based on newspaper accounts Indo gangs are usually quite large.  Afros will attack in 2 and 3.

 

The thing is that baseman knows full well that more Indo youths are turning to crime.  He doesnt care the slightest that their victims are almost always Indian.

 

By the way baseman Indos will attack in LARGER groups than will blacks.

Yea, I do care and hope they get a good kick-ass like those Buxton terrorist. Baseman never sympathize with criminals regardless of race.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

Yea, I do care and hope they get a good kick-ass like those Buxton terrorist. Baseman never sympathize with criminals regardless of race.

And yet you paint a picture of Afros attacking INdos because they are lazy and completely omit the fact that Indos are also being attacked by fellow Indos.

FM

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