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Prime Minister vows to remain in National Assembly; accuses Jagdeo of plotting govt shutdown

 

Prime Minister Moses Nagamootoo and Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo.

As the National Assembly prepares to vote on 2019 national budgetary allocations from next Monday, Prime Minister Moses Nagamootoo rejected Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo’s position that he has vacate his seat in the House because he is performing presidential duties.

“The Prime Minister, performing any functions, one or more, has never been invited to vacate the membership of the National Assembly. The constitution provides that the President is elected and once elected, he always remains the President until he is unelected and the Prime Minister is an elected member of the National Assembly and you cannot ipso facto unelect myself. In fact, I  cannot act on bad advice to unelect myself,”

President David Granger left  Tuesday for more chemotherapy in Cuba and was expected to return to Guyana this weekend.

The Prime Minister accused the Opposition Leader of attempting to create “division” to derail passage of the budget and force a government shutdown. “The deviousness is what we see playing out, that he would try to first divide members of this government and set us up against each other and then when you believe, as a throw-back, as a fall-back, you are now asking for the removal from the House of the Prime Minister because the intention is to defeat the budget….to lock down the government, to create a constitutional crisis and to breathe disaffection and rebellion among the people of this country,” he said.

Nagamootoo argued that Guyana’s Constitution provides for the Prime Minister to be Leader of government’s business in the House, first Vice President and principal assistant to the President. He said the President, in or out of Guyana, could authorise the Prime Minister to carry out “certain functions”, “any functions” while keeping his appointment intact.

Contributing to the budget debate, Jagdeo said the Prime Minister is  “squatting” in the 65-seat National Assembly where the governing coalition has a one-seat majority.  The Opposition Leader reasoned that the constitution states that when a minister is performing presidential duties or has assumed the office, his or her seat in the National Assembly should be regarded as vacant and the should be temporarily filled until the period expires. He noted that the constitution provides for the president’s absent from Guyana due to illness or any other cause, he or she can direct authorise any Cabinet member to perform presidential functions.

“We have had this Prime Minister come here over and over when he is acting as President in violation of our constitution, squatting in the Parliament contrary to the practice of the past and we have allowed this to happen. We plan, Mr. Speaker, to raise this on Monday when we come to consider the estimates. His presence will not be missed in the House,” Jagdeo said.

Then Prime Minister Samuel Hinds had participated in sittings of the National Assembly while performing duties of the President.

Earlier, the Opposition Leader announced that he would inform House Speaker, Dr. Barton Scotland that government parliamentarians have received threats, including against their lives, if any of them vote in favour of the opposition-sponsored no-confidence motion.

However, the Prime Minister denied Jagdeo’s claim. “It is only a diabolical mind will conjure up things of that kind against Honourable members of this House and to impute that because there was a motion of no-confidence tabled in this House that attempts would be made to deal with members of the government side who dare support such an unpopular motion,” he said.

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Note -- According to Guyana Constitution and related Laws ...

"When the prime minister or a minister performs the position of ACTING president, s/he maintains their duties/function and rights to vote in their substantive position."

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Historical and current situation ...

PPPC period -- 1992 to 2015

When Samuel Hinds performs the function as Acting President, while he has the right to do so, he did not vote in parliament.

Reason ---

PPPC had a sizable majority of MPs, hence it was not needed for Samuel Hinds to vote in parliament.

PNCR/AFC, etc., period -- 2015 to present

Because the PNCR/AFC, etc., has a one-seat majority, it is incumbent that they use the possible means to ensure their majority in parliament. Therefore, the Acting president currently exercises his right to vote.

FM

DemGuy,

Well you have cleared up the squatting of the PM in Parliament.

Who is advising the Opposition Leader Jagdeo ? heard him quote from the Constitution in his debate in the house regarding Acting President.

The conman Jagdeo was all over the place in his presentation on the Budget, Finance Minister Jordan nailed him good and proper.

Django
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Baseman posted:

Jagdeo jumps on every limb there is.  Sooner or later people will begin to tune him out.

Shouldn’t he be doing his job as the opposition leader and politician. 

 

FM

A President or Acting President cannot participate and vote in the National Assembly.  Nagamootoo is attending Parliament and conducting business as usual.  If his vote counts in Parliament it means that he was never sworn in as Acting President.  So who is the Acting President?  

Bibi Haniffa
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Bibi Haniffa posted:

A President or Acting President cannot participate and vote in the National Assembly.  Nagamootoo is attending Parliament and conducting business as usual.  If his vote counts in Parliament it means that he was never sworn in as Acting President.  So who is the Acting President?  

He accused Jagdeo of causing divisiveness against the government to bring the government down. 

This namakram did exactly the same as a PPP member and as opposition member. 

He’s shitting his pants.. these coolie crabdag. 

FM
Bibi Haniffa posted:

A President or Acting President cannot participate and vote in the National Assembly.  Nagamootoo is attending Parliament and conducting business as usual.  If his vote counts in Parliament it means that he was never sworn in as Acting President.  So who is the Acting President?  

President

A substantive president do have a presence in parliament but cannot vote --- s/he has no voting rights.

Acting President

Acting president temporarily performs the presidential function and can vote in parliament. This individual has voting right due to his/her substantive positions.

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Preferred procedures for Acting presidents.

While these individuals do have voting rights because of their substantive positions, the preferred way would be that they remain with their Acting positions until completed and do not participate in parliament to exercise their voting rights.

In functioning as Acting president and simultaneously participating in parliament would indeed create deep concerns because e.g., one minute s/he is Acting president and the next minute s/he is active in parliament.

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Acceptable approach which is above and beyond reproach.

The approach taken by Samuel Hinds; when he was performing the duties as Acting president to not participate in parliament during the specified period; is the clearest, cleanest and best manner.

FM
Bibi Haniffa posted:

A President or Acting President cannot participate and vote in the National Assembly.  Nagamootoo is attending Parliament and conducting business as usual.  If his vote counts in Parliament it means that he was never sworn in as Acting President.  So who is the Acting President?  

Moses is best actor in a monkey role.  Looks like he was not sworn in. He probably was given a verbal approval to act so he is acting like a monkey. 

FM
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