It started as a Fund raiser but ending up as an East Indian Arrival Day

I admire Congress woman Tulsi. She is a proud Hindu and took her oath with a Bhagavad Gita.

Bless her and support her. First Proud Hindu in Congress.

She cute!!

Which arrival day we talking, Indians headed to Guyana or Indo-Guyanese landing on the shores of North America fleeing PNC terror in Guyana?

That's the second journey 

ba$eman posted:

Which arrival day we talking, Indians headed to Guyana or Indo-Guyanese landing on the shores of North America fleeing PNC terror in Guyana?

always running...when ayuh gon stand and fite

Not in Richmond Hill.

We are now with 10,000 Votes

Vish M posted:

Not in Richmond Hill.

We are now with 10,000 Votes

Split into several districts.  VM you can avoid this issue, but that is the reality.

I asked Congresswoman Tulsi to assist by get us 

Indo Caribbean as a status for us in Census 2020

I woulda instead asked her to dinner.

RiffRaff posted:

ba$eman posted:

Which arrival day we talking, Indians headed to Guyana or Indo-Guyanese landing on the shores of North America fleeing PNC terror in Guyana?

always running...when ayuh gon stand and fite

Ask Gajraj!  Anyway, as many Blacks cut and run rather than stand and fight, ask Caribj!!  He deh fighting all the way weh eva!!

Vish M posted:

Vishnu,

This lady hates Muslims. Does she know that you have muslim family and friends?

Vish M posted:

It started as a Fund raiser but ending up as an East Indian Arrival Day

Let that bigoted swine Tulsi  know that Muslims are part of East Indian.

Chief posted:

Vish M posted:

It started as a Fund raiser but ending up as an East Indian Arrival Day

Let that bigoted swine Tulsi  know that Muslims are part of East Indian.

Let that bigoted fullah Chief knows that Hindus/Christians are part of the "Indo-Guyanese" community.  That are not "low-class coolies" and whatever else he howls on GNI and at his Masjid!

ba$eman posted:

Chief posted:

Vish M posted:

It started as a Fund raiser but ending up as an East Indian Arrival Day

Let that bigoted swine Tulsi  know that Muslims are part of East Indian.

Let that bigoted fullah Chief knows that Hindus/Christians are part of the "Indo-Guyanese" community.  That are not "low-class coolies" and whatever else he howls on GNI and at his Masjid!

Baseman.... tell abee how Chat-3 suh stupid....

De Banna thief Govt money to buy Rasta Sperm....

Yuh think any other Indo Guyanese suh dotish....

Which Hindu/ Christian/Muslim yuh know try da?

Chat-3 is a "real Low Class Coolie"

ba$eman posted:

Chief posted:

Vish M posted:

It started as a Fund raiser but ending up as an East Indian Arrival Day

Let that bigoted swine Tulsi  know that Muslims are part of East Indian.

Let that bigoted fullah Chief knows that Hindus/Christians are part of the "Indo-Guyanese" community.  That are not "low-class coolies" and whatever else he howls on GNI and at his Masjid!

This is the first time I will use a term and call Chief a Hindu Hater.

One GNI member was correct about hearing him cussing down Hindus at Masjid. He has now brought over that nasty behaviour at GNI.

Shame on Chief.

yuji22 posted:

ba$eman posted:

Chief posted:

Let that bigoted swine Tulsi  know that Muslims are part of East Indian.

Let that bigoted fullah Chief knows that Hindus/Christians are part of the "Indo-Guyanese" community.  That are not "low-class coolies" and whatever else he howls on GNI and at his Masjid!

This is the first time I will use a term and call Chief a Hindu Hater.

One GNI member was correct about hearing him cussing down Hindus at Masjid. He has now brought over that nasty behaviour at GNI.

Shame on Chief.

Shame?  Dah Greek to Chief!!

cain posted:

I woulda instead asked her to dinner.

Vishnu doesn't know how to properly utilize his time or opportunities.

By the way, doesn't Vishnu look like a freak?

ksazma posted:

cain posted:

I woulda instead asked her to dinner.

Vishnu doesn't know how to properly utilize his time or opportunities.

By the way, doesn't Vishnu look like a freak?

He look more lke Fagin from Oliver Twist.

Sheik101 posted:

ksazma posted:

cain posted:

I woulda instead asked her to dinner.

Vishnu doesn't know how to properly utilize his time or opportunities.

By the way, doesn't Vishnu look like a freak?

He look more lke Fagin from Oliver Twist.

He looks twisted alright. I would be highly suspicious near Vishnu. He could be really nice or not but man, that face.

Vish M posted:

I asked Congresswoman Tulsi to assist by get us 

Indo Caribbean as a status for us in Census 2020

So we will have 100 ethnic categories on the census forms if every one who wants their own category gets one.

A group, which isn't even half a million, isn't getting its own category.

Sheik101 posted:

ksazma posted:

cain posted:

I woulda instead asked her to dinner.

Vishnu doesn't know how to properly utilize his time or opportunities.

By the way, doesn't Vishnu look like a freak?

He look more lke Fagin from Oliver Twist.

Vish M posted:

It started as a Fund raiser but ending up as an East Indian Arrival Day

Is there clear documentation of when East Indians started arriving in Richmond Hill?  I assume you talking Indo-Caribbeankar!!

yuji22 posted:

ba$eman posted:

Chief posted:

Vish M posted:

It started as a Fund raiser but ending up as an East Indian Arrival Day

Let that bigoted swine Tulsi  know that Muslims are part of East Indian.

Let that bigoted fullah Chief knows that Hindus/Christians are part of the "Indo-Guyanese" community.  That are not "low-class coolies" and whatever else he howls on GNI and at his Masjid!

This is the first time I will use a term and call Chief a Hindu Hater.

One GNI member was correct about hearing him cussing down Hindus at Masjid. He has now brought over that nasty behaviour at GNI.

Shame on Chief.

So you turning the table, now I know why you are putting a mala on Danald Trump picture every morning.

Calling out Tulsi for who she really is has now made me a hindu hater, wow!

You PPP coolie bigots  really need help.All you hate blacks, all you ate muslims, all you hate women, any surprsie whyy all you backing trump who is calling for deportation of some of your family?

Chief posted:

yuji22 posted:

ba$eman posted:

Chief posted:

Let that bigoted swine Tulsi  know that Muslims are part of East Indian.

Let that bigoted fullah Chief knows that Hindus/Christians are part of the "Indo-Guyanese" community.  That are not "low-class coolies" and whatever else he howls on GNI and at his Masjid!

This is the first time I will use a term and call Chief a Hindu Hater.

One GNI member was correct about hearing him cussing down Hindus at Masjid. He has now brought over that nasty behaviour at GNI.

Shame on Chief.

So you turning the table, now I know why you are putting a mala on Danald Trump picture every morning.

Calling out Tulsi for who she really is has now made me a hindu hater, wow!

You PPP coolie bigots  really need help.All you hate blacks, all you ate muslims, all you hate women, any surprsie whyy all you backing trump who is calling for deportation of some of your family?

There are good Muslims and good Blacks as with anyone else, nothing with them being Muslim or Black.  Then there are the "yous" of the world.

Women are baseman's favorite specie on this planet Earth!!

There are good and bad in every group, every race and every religion.

But you PPP guys hate blacks and Muslims.

Indo-Caribbeans in the New York Metro Area

http://unreachednewyork.com/wp...an-Profile-Final.pdf

The earth, sky, and individuals were enshrouded in baby powder and the fluorescent colors of blue, yellow, pink, and purple dyes. Children and adults alike participated as Indo-Caribbeans from Guyana, Trinidad, Suriname, and Jamaica gleefully threw the dyes and powder at each other in a Hindu celebration they call Phagwah (called Holi in Hindi). Taking place at a rather drab-looking park in a drab-looking neighborhood in Queens, the Indo-Caribbeans use the annual event to do what immigrant groups are renowned for doing in New York City—adding color to an otherwise gray palette! The large attendance at the Phagwah event reflects the fact that a significant portion of the Hindu population in Metro New York did not emigrate directly from South Asia but from the Caribbean.

In 1838, the first indentured laborers set sail from India to British Guiana (Guyana) in order to work on sugar plantations. These Indian laborers were from the lower and working classes, and migration continued into Guyana, Trinidad, Suriname, and Jamaica up until the 1920s.1 Today, around fifty percent of Guyana‟s population and forty percent of Trinidad‟s have East Indian ancestry.2 Just as these Indians brought their culture, language, religion, and influence to the Caribbean in the 1800s and early 1900s, up to 300 thousand Indo-Caribbeans are doing the same today in Metro New York.

When Britain enacted a law in 1962 to restrict unregulated immigration, and the United States conversely opened its doors in 1965 to a wider immigrant pool, Indo-Caribbeans began pouring into New York. Immigration continued to escalate in the 1970s and „80s when the economy and political situation in Guyana worsened under the socialist government of Forbes Burnham. As a result, the majority of Indo-Caribbeans in Metro New York (around seventy percent) are Guyanese.

Danny, an Indo-Guyanese who moved to New York over thirty years ago, spoke proudly about the community that Indo-Caribbeans have formed in the Richmond Hill neighborhood of Queens. In an accent tinged with patois, Danny boasts, “Have you been to Liberty Avenue here? Have you been? It has everything! Temples, shops, restaurants— everything! It is like a „Little Guyana,‟ you know.” While Richmond Hill is their main neighborhood in New York, Indo-Caribbeans can also be found in other Caribbean neighborhoods in Brooklyn, Queens, the Bronx, and New Jersey.

When the first East Indians came into the Caribbean in the 1800s, they were almost exclusively Hindu or Muslim. Years of exposure to other religions, most notably Christianity, has altered the religious dynamics of Indo-Caribbeans to a point where no dogmatic claims can be made on what they believe. However, the majority of Indo-Caribbeans are still Hindu (perhaps sixty percent), while Muslims make up about twenty percent, Christians around ten percent, and agnostics and adherents of other religions make up the rest. Sometimes the religious dynamics shift tremendously depending on the country of origin, such as Jamaica, where most Indo-Caribbeans are now Christians.

The Indo-Caribbean migration, from its inception in India, has always been a story of working-class people with little opportunity making a way for themselves, despite difficult circumstances and conditions. Their lives in New York are no different. Although IndoCaribbeans often work at service jobs that pay little and take a lot, their hard work has paid off with neatly kept houses, a neighborhood they call their own, and organizations that sprinkle the year with lively parades, festivities, and events.

On the weekends, a unique Indo-Guyanese pastime can be observed at Phil Rizzuto Park in Queens, where morning whistling matches between black finches from Guyana garner reactions from spectators who resemble those at a horse race. The “chirp-offs” are so popular in the local community that finches are even smuggled into the country and sold for up to $1,500. 

Chief posted:

There are good and bad in every group, every race and every religion.

But you PPP guys hate blacks and Muslims.

Nah, we love all races and religions.  We just call out the likes of you who hate "infidels", especially Indians!!

Chief posted:

There are good and bad in every group, every race and every religion.

But you PPP guys hate blacks and Muslims.

Is it Muslims or Muslims that are Black.

ba$eman posted:

Which arrival day we talking, Indians headed to Guyana or Indo-Guyanese landing on the shores of North America fleeing PNC terror in Guyana?

I think the latter will be more appropriate .

This was written a year ago on the site http://www.alternet.org/civil-...member-tulsi-gabbard.

She's particularly a favorite of right-wing media. Appearing with Fox's Neil Cavuto last week, she lashed out at the White House for holding an extremism summit with Muslim Americans, saying it's a “diversion from what our real focus needs to be. And that focus is on that Islamic extremist threat.” She criticized Obama for saying that “poverty, lack of access to jobs, lack of access to education” is contributing to radicalization. “They are not fueled by materialistic motivation, it's actually a theological, this radical Islamic ideology,” she said, throwing red meat to Fox viewers.

To the media, Gabbard is a curious spectacle. She's a Hawaii Democrat, coming from one of the nation's most progressive and dovish chapters of the Democratic Party, but she's also an Iraq war veteran, and she's consistently tried to outflank President Obama and the rest of her party to the right on foreign affairs. Last month she openly mocked Secretary of State John Kerry during an appearance on CNN, saying that he thinks, "if we give them [Islamic extremists] $10,000 and give them a nice place to live that somehow they're not going to be engaged in this fighting."

To Gabbard, the fact that Syria and Iraq have been through years of brutal civil war, wrecked economies and massive displacement is irrelevant; the only reason they have an extremism problem is because of Islamic theology.

But the case of Tulsi Gabbard becomes less curious and more expected once you look at her links to a different set of ethnic and religious hardliners: the Hindu nationalist Indian Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP). Since her election to Congress, Gabbard has tied herself closely to this party, which has a history of condoning hatred and violence against India's Muslim minority. Many of her stateside donors and supporters are also big supporters of this movement, which disdains secularism and promotes religious sectarianism.

The Gabbard-BJP Connection

Laments about Congress' polarization are common, and it's rare that large numbers of Republicans and Democrats can agree, especially on progressive legislation. But in November 2013, a group of 26 House Democrats and 25 House Republicans introduced HR 417, which called on India to improve the human rights situation of its religious minorities, especially citing the case of Gujarat.

The text of the bill is fairly unoffensive; it does not single out Hindus as perpetrators of religious violence, but rather calls for all groups in India to be treated fairly and given full human rights. However, Gabbard made it her personal mission to crusade against the bill.

The following December, Congressmember Tom Lantos' Human Rights Commission held a hearing on religious freedom in India. Rather than review the litany of abuses that have occurred in the country, Gabbard mused she did “not believe that the timing of this hearing is a coincidence....I am concerned that the goal of this hearing is to influence the outcome of India's national elections.” She went on to state that even holding a hearing on the issue was “an attempt to foment fear and loathing purely for political purposes.”

Laments about Congress' polarization are common, and it's rare that large numbers of Republicans and Democrats can agree, especially on progressive legislation. But in November 2013, a group of 26 House Democrats and 25 House Republicans introduced HR 417, which called on India to improve the human rights situation of its religious minorities, especially citing the case of Gujarat.

The text of the bill is fairly unoffensive; it does not single out Hindus as perpetrators of religious violence, but rather calls for all groups in India to be treated fairly and given full human rights. However, Gabbard made it her personal mission to crusade against the bill.

The following December, Congressmember Tom Lantos' Human Rights Commission held a hearing on religious freedom in India. Rather than review the litany of abuses that have occurred in the country, Gabbard mused she did “not believe that the timing of this hearing is a coincidence....I am concerned that the goal of this hearing is to influence the outcome of India's national elections.” She went on to state that even holding a hearing on the issue was “an attempt to foment fear and loathing purely for political purposes.”

Federal election commission documents show Gabbard received over $6,000 from BJP supporters in the Atlanta area that day alone. In addition to events such as these, she had the formal organizational backing of the U.S. India Political Action Committee (USINPAC); its chairman Sanjay Puri is one of Gabbard's $2,600 donors (the maximum legal limit for one donation). Dayal Meshri, another USINPAC official and chemical firm CEO, also gave her a similar sized donation; the PAC also gave her $5,000 in her initial 2012 run. Elections data show that BJP backers, many of them affiliated with USINPAC, were donors to her campaign in virtually every part of the country.

This isn't simply a case of Indian Americans backing a Hindu congresswoman in order to bolster the representation of their community; after all, Gabbard was the first Hindu elected to Congress, an important civil rights milestone. (Gabbard, who is American Samoan, converted to Hinduism as a teenager.)

Gabbard has one other curious alliance. Under Prime Minister Modi, India has sought increasingly close relations to Israel, shifting the country's historical support for the Palestinian cause. Perhaps Gabbard is a sort of consigliere for this alliance of Hindu nationalists and right-wing Zionists, as she is the only House Democrat backing a bill basically designed to benefit one of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's closest political allies, Sheldon Adelson. The bill is part of a crackdown on online gambling that Adelson is promoting in order to destroy competition to his casino chain.

Has the BJP Bubble Popped?

Gabbard has inculcated this base of hardline BJP supporters, which has propelled her into Congress with thousands of its dollars. She thanks them by echoing much of their rhetoric against Muslims in India on the airwaves here in the U.S. on networks like Fox News. But what she may be forgetting is that she represents a progressive Democratic constituency that isn't interested in sectarian conflict with Muslims.

The Honolulu Civil Beat, a hometown publication, slammed Gabbard for her crusade against Obama's Islam terminology:

"The unseemly and very public semantics battle that U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard has been waging this year against President Barack Obama had largely been one-sided. […] Gabbard’s argument largely boils down to a few dubious ideas. First, unless the president, in his public characterizations, refers to agents of ISIS and related organizations as 'Islamic terrorists,' he is unable to mount an effective military and foreign policy effort to defeat them. Second, only in specifically, publicly tying terrorists to their religious ideology can the White House truly understand where the terrorist organizations recruit, how they think, etc. Lastly, his failure to use Gabbard’s preferred phrasing means he doesn’t 'get' any of this in the first place."

In India, the BJP is facing formidable electoral challenges from the left. The Aam Admi Party, a new political party of the secular left, recently took control of the capital city, putting together a coalition of Hindus, Muslims and Sikhs who rejected sectarian politics. Although this puts them a long way from dislodging Modi and the wider BJP, it does show that his electoral prospects may have peaked as Indian voters look elsewhere for leadership.

Gabbard should take note of these trends and realize that while Muslim-bashing may be in vogue at the time, it may just be the political equivalent of an economic bubble—and when it pops her own political career may go with it.

Congresswoman Gabbard is an ethnic American Samoan and not an Indians. he converted to Hinduism. She's a favorite of Fox News with close ties to India's Prime Minister  Modi's extreme right nationalist who received $6,000 from BJP supporters in the Atlanta area; and also from USINPAC supporters.

Gabbard seeking a Senate run?

You have to wonder where Gabbard is going with this anti-Islamic virulence. She's seen with the Brietbart.com folks and hob-nobbed with  Rudy Giuliani and U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz.

She has in her sights a challenge U.S. Sen. Brian Schatz in 2016, when he runs for re-election, to the seat of the late Daniel Inouye.

As Schatz showed in his election last fall to complete the remainder of Inouye’s term (he had been appointed to interim service following Inouye’s 2012 death), he enjoys broad support among the labor and social progressive groups that dominate Hawaii politics. A candidate looking for traction beyond that core — say, with Republicans and voters aligned with Hawaii’s considerable military presence — might find it partly through such criticism.

It might also prove attractive to the growing number of wealthy, prominent Hindus in Silicon Valley, for whom Gabbard holds special cachet as the first Hindu elected to Congress. Some Indian American Hindus might be sympathetic to such hardline characterizations of terrorists, given longstanding strife caused by some of India’s own extremist movements, some of which are Muslim.

She is native Indian and these Richmond Hill clowns belive she is Inidan from India all because she claim she is Hindu.

Samoans look like Indians too. She's described as American Samoan and not Indian. She converted to Hinduism too. But like any politician she's using the American Indians for fund raising and our Guyanese Indians in Richmond Hill are very accommodating.

Kari posted:

Samoans look like Indians too. She's described as American Samoan and not Indian. She converted to Hinduism too. But like any politician she's using the American Indians for fund raising and our Guyanese Indians in Richmond Hill are very NAIVE

Maybe Vishnu can let us know how efforts to raise funds for Gabbard enriches the Guyanese immigrant community in NYC.

While he's at it I'd like to know how the Y50 group (who reflect but does not celebrate Guyana's 50th anniversary) furthers the interests of Guyanese-Americans and Guyanese in general.

Or maybe Chief you can shed some like on these two events that our friend Vishnu chose to highlight in these here threads.

Kari posted:

Maybe Vishnu can let us know how efforts to raise funds for Gabbard enriches the Guyanese immigrant community in NYC.

 

While he's at it I'd like to know how the Y50 group (who reflect but does not celebrate Guyana's 50th anniversary) furthers the interests of Guyanese-Americans and Guyanese in general.

 

Or maybe Chief you can shed some like on these two events that our friend Vishnu chose to highlight in these here threads.

I would like to know why/what we celebrating.  Is it that we take the place as one of the most exited nations on earth, is it that we manage to keep the divisions, deprivation and underdevelopment as close to 1966???  The only saving grace is the PPP took it in 1992 at a 1940 state and brought it back to some level of decency.

Then PPP LOST.