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Delta Airlines pulling out of Guyana

Posted By Stabroek editor On February 10, 2013 @ 6:31 pm In Local News

 

Delta Airlines will be pulling its service out of Guyana.

“As of right now we are pulling our service from Georgetown Guyana “ , a United States-based customer  representative told Stabroek News today. The disclosure came after customers attempting to book flights on Delta for later this year encountered problems having their bookings taken.

No reason has so far been given for the pullout. The final date of service is reportedly May 13, 2013.

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When contacted today by Stabroek News, Minister of Tourism Irfaan Ali said that he had no information at the moment and that he was talking with Delta. He said that as soon as he had information he would get back to this newspaper.

 

Sources have told this newspaper that an official announcement from the airline could be made as early as tomorrow.  Delta has been doing direct flights from Guyana to New York since 2008. Direct flights to New York are now also being done by Caribbean Airlines.

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If what REDUX is claiming here is true, this is a massive indictment on the Jagdeo / Ramotar regime that they cannot attract foreign investment for the long term.

 

if I was Irfaat the tiefing Minister, I would fly up to meet with delta and make some preferential arrangement such as duty free fuel to keep them in Guyana.

 

Delta is a BIG BIG name that you do not score easily.

 

The PPP has to stop operating like a cake shop Government and start thinking BIG.

 

FM

 

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When Delta pulls out, Guyana will be back to just the tried and tested Caribbean Airlines, that through its predecessor BWIA, has been serving Guyana for over six decades.

 

However, a Guyanese/Jamaican owned airline, Fly Jamaica, is expected to start service from Guyana, via Jamaica to New York, in a few days.

 

Fly Jamaica Airways is expected to take to the skies from Jamaica on Thursday, February 14, after an almost three week delay.

 

 

http://www.capitolnewsonline.c...-may-this-year-2013/

FM
Originally Posted by Sheik101:

However, a Guyanese/Jamaican owned airline, Fly Jamaica, is expected to start service from Guyana, via Jamaica to New York, in a few days

 

How long is this one expected to last, rev?


sheik:

 

Billionaire Richard Branson, founder of Virgin Airlines, once said, "if you want to be a millionaire, start with a billion and launch a new airline."

 

A lot of these new airlines are an ego play---their founders feel good about themselves---full of false pride---then in a few months---reality sets in---bankruptcy follows.

 

Rev

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Observer:

Maybe the posters who are always slamming Guyana had something to do with Guyana losing Delta.   

suh . . . when did spotlighting the incumbent regime's economic rape of the country and exposing PPP drug trafficking criminals = "slamming Guyana"?

FM



Looks a little like Guyana Airways from back in the days. Which brings me to this question. Why can't we have our own plane? Rass man, even lil Suriname got a small fleet which includes a jumbo jet.

Sheik101
Originally Posted by redux:

Delta Airlines pulling out of Guyana

Posted By Stabroek editor On February 10, 2013 @ 6:31 pm In Local News

 

Delta Airlines will be pulling its service out of Guyana.

has so far been given for the pullout. The final date of service is reportedly May 13, 2013.

delta

 


Hmmm, Rev, what happened to this booming tourist industry?

 

Hopefully Jetblue steps in but I am not sure that their current fleet has the range to do JFK GEO nonstop with a full load of passengers and bags.  It definitely doesnt make sense to give one airline a monopoly.  Maybe Suriname will now step up to the plate, gaining the same route rights out of GEO that Carib has, given its CARICOM status.

 

Delta probably lost bags of money last year, thansk to EZjet, so no longer thinks that the route is worthwhile, especially given the high risk of drugg trafficking.

 

Also Rev the PPP nonsense about Westjet and Air Canada going to Guyana.  AC pulled out of T&T long ago, and its appears as if WestJ has decided to cancel its new service there.  So if T&T doesnt work, GY definitely is out of the question.

 

 

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by redux:

Delta Airlines pulling out of Guyana

Posted By Stabroek editor On February 10, 2013 @ 6:31 pm In Local News

 

Delta Airlines will be pulling its service out of Guyana.

has so far been given for the pullout. The final date of service is reportedly May 13, 2013.

delta

 


Hmmm, Rev, what happened to this booming tourist industry?

 

Hopefully Jetblue steps in but I am not sure that their current fleet has the range to do JFK GEO nonstop with a full load of passengers and bags.  It definitely doesnt make sense to give one airline a monopoly.  Maybe Suriname will now step up to the plate, gaining the same route rights out of GEO that Carib has, given its CARICOM status.

 

Delta probably lost bags of money last year, thansk to EZjet, so no longer thinks that the route is worthwhile, especially given the high risk of drugg trafficking.

 

Also Rev the PPP nonsense about Westjet and Air Canada going to Guyana.  AC pulled out of T&T long ago, and its appears as if WestJ has decided to cancel its new service there.  So if T&T doesnt work, GY definitely is out of the question.

 

Oh and by the way

 

It would be a stretch in terms of fuel for the A320s. The A320neo might do it. 

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:

 

Fly Jamaica Airways is expected to take to the skies from Jamaica on Thursday, February 14, after an almost three week delay.

 

 

http://www.capitolnewsonline.c...-may-this-year-2013/


Yet another Ezjet fiasco in the making though they bwill have to deal with Jamaicans if they pull the same stunt.  Sorry for their employees at the airport and offices.

FM
Originally Posted by TK:
 

It would be a stretch in terms of fuel for the A320s. The A320neo might do it. 


Air Jamaica used to struggle to reach Grenada with A320 equipment, often leaving behind bags, so they definitely cannot do GEO.  The issue is wheether Jetblue will acrquire these aircraft and use them to GEO, giving that routes to larger South American countries are more lucrative.

 

But maybe if T&T can attract Jetblue then GEO might stand a chance, given that the market out of JFK to both points has similar composition.

FM
Originally Posted by Brutus:
Give Suriname airways access to the toronto and ny guyana routes


They already have made approaches to the authorities.  This should accelerate that.  This way Guyana will have a defacto national carrier without having to bear the cost of it...also keeping Carib on their toes.

FM
Originally Posted by Sheik101:



Looks a little like Guyana Airways from back in the days. Which brings me to this question. Why can't we have our own plane? Rass man, even lil Suriname got a small fleet which includes a jumbo jet.


Suriname has  a very profitable route to Amsterdam.   Why doesnt Guyana get two national carriers, Carib and Surinam, and let them fight it out.

 

Running an airline is too expensive and it should now be obvious that one plane airlines do not work.

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by Sheik101:

However, a Guyanese/Jamaican owned airline, Fly Jamaica, is expected to start service from Guyana, via Jamaica to New York, in a few days

 

How long is this one expected to last, rev?


sheik:

 

Billionaire Richard Branson, founder of Virgin Airlines, once said, "if you want to be a millionaire, start with a billion and launch a new airline."

 

A lot of these new airlines are an ego play---their founders feel good about themselves---full of false pride---then in a few months---reality sets in---bankruptcy follows.

 

Rev

 

 


Rev. I am shocked. I actually AGREE with YOU!!!!

 

Fly Ja will fail because already way too many airline sgo to Jamaica.  I do not see Guyanese using them, given the recent EzJet fiasco.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by TK:
 

It would be a stretch in terms of fuel for the A320s. The A320neo might do it. 


Air Jamaica used to struggle to reach Grenada with A320 equipment, often leaving behind bags, so they definitely cannot do GEO.  The issue is wheether Jetblue will acrquire these aircraft and use them to GEO, giving that routes to larger South American countries are more lucrative.

 

But maybe if T&T can attract Jetblue then GEO might stand a chance, given that the market out of JFK to both points has similar composition.

 

You think TT will allow JetBlue in? JetBlue will present serious competition to Caribbean Airlines. The government should have a talk with the former jetBlue CEO now running Azul Airlines in Brazil. The guy is a Mormon though and would not likely be open to paying a kick-back tax. 

FM
Originally Posted by TK:
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You think TT will allow JetBlue in? JetBlue will present serious competition to Caribbean Airlines. The government should have a talk with the former jetBlue CEO now running Azul Airlines in Brazil. The guy is a Mormon though and would not likely be open to paying a kick-back tax. 


The current T&T govt view Carib as a PNM airline, as they used to view BWee.  They have no interest in protecting it, even though prior agreements force them to honor the fuel subsidies.

 

They have been talking to jetblue, but that airline doesnt seem to be biting, maybe because of the fuel subsidy which allows Carib to undercut them in a fare war.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by TK:
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You think TT will allow JetBlue in? JetBlue will present serious competition to Caribbean Airlines. The government should have a talk with the former jetBlue CEO now running Azul Airlines in Brazil. The guy is a Mormon though and would not likely be open to paying a kick-back tax. 


The current T&T govt view Carib as a PNM airline, as they used to view BWee.  They have no interest in protecting it, even though prior agreements force them to honor the fuel subsidies.

 

They have been talking to jetblue, but that airline doesnt seem to be biting, maybe because of the fuel subsidy which allows Carib to undercut them in a fare war.

 

Thanks...I forgot they also have a similar ethnic political battles. Probably less than Guyana. 

FM
Originally Posted by warrior:

most airline do not want to touch guyana because of the drug trade and the lack of good security if  a airline is caught carrying drugs they have to pay a fine

Tell your wife to stop pimping herself out as a drug mule.

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by warrior:

most airline do not want to touch guyana because of the drug trade and the lack of good security if  a airline is caught carrying drugs they have to pay a fine

Tell your wife to stop pimping herself out as a drug mule.

You got him mixed up with Goadie Gurdle.

cain
Originally Posted by Devindra:

If what REDUX is claiming here is true, this is a massive indictment on the Jagdeo / Ramotar regime that they cannot attract foreign investment for the long term.

 

if I was Irfaat the tiefing Minister, I would fly up to meet with delta and make some preferential arrangement such as duty free fuel to keep them in Guyana.

 

Delta is a BIG BIG name that you do not score easily.

 

The PPP has to stop operating like a cake shop Government and start thinking BIG.

 

I traveled with Delta twice, it was half-full.  i think it's to do with demand than anything else.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Devindra:

If what REDUX is claiming here is true, this is a massive indictment on the Jagdeo / Ramotar regime that they cannot attract foreign investment for the long term.

 

if I was Irfaat the tiefing Minister, I would fly up to meet with delta and make some preferential arrangement such as duty free fuel to keep them in Guyana.

 

Delta is a BIG BIG name that you do not score easily.

 

The PPP has to stop operating like a cake shop Government and start thinking BIG.

 

I traveled with Delta twice, it was half-full.  i think it's to do with demand than anything else.

I always do Caribbean Airlines and they are full. This is not good. 

FM
Originally Posted by Sheik101:
I always fly delta and it's always full. Flew CA twice and I'm not doing that again unless it's absolutely necessary. Don't have patience with that wait in T/dad.

That's because I have the misfortune of leaving from Miami. 

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by TK:
 

It would be a stretch in terms of fuel for the A320s. The A320neo might do it. 


Air Jamaica used to struggle to reach Grenada with A320 equipment, often leaving behind bags, so they definitely cannot do GEO.  The issue is wheether Jetblue will acrquire these aircraft and use them to GEO, giving that routes to larger South American countries are more lucrative.

 

But maybe if T&T can attract Jetblue then GEO might stand a chance, given that the market out of JFK to both points has similar composition.

The A320 can do the NY/GEO with fuel left ovet it can also do the Toronto GY

 

The A320 can fly a maximum distance of 6,150 km.   The distance from NY GEO is or 4095 km (Delta)

 

You probably got mixed up with their McDonnell-Douglas MD-80

Pointblank
Originally Posted by Pointblank:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by TK:
 

It would be a stretch in terms of fuel for the A320s. The A320neo might do it. 


Air Jamaica used to struggle to reach Grenada with A320 equipment, often leaving behind bags, so they definitely cannot do GEO.  The issue is wheether Jetblue will acrquire these aircraft and use them to GEO, giving that routes to larger South American countries are more lucrative.

 

But maybe if T&T can attract Jetblue then GEO might stand a chance, given that the market out of JFK to both points has similar composition.

The A320 can do the NY/GEO with fuel left ovet it can also do the Toronto GY

 

The A320 can fly a maximum distance of 6,150 km.   The distance from NY GEO is or 4095 km (Delta)

 

You probably got mixed up with their McDonnell-Douglas MD-80

I hope you are right because I'd love to see JetBlue fly to Guyana. I have my JetBlue card by American Express. 

FM
Originally Posted by TK:
Originally Posted by Pointblank:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by TK:
 

It would be a stretch in terms of fuel for the A320s. The A320neo might do it. 


Air Jamaica used to struggle to reach Grenada with A320 equipment, often leaving behind bags, so they definitely cannot do GEO.  The issue is wheether Jetblue will acrquire these aircraft and use them to GEO, giving that routes to larger South American countries are more lucrative.

 

But maybe if T&T can attract Jetblue then GEO might stand a chance, given that the market out of JFK to both points has similar composition.

The A320 can do the NY/GEO with fuel left ovet it can also do the Toronto GY

 

The A320 can fly a maximum distance of 6,150 km.   The distance from NY GEO is or 4095 km (Delta)

 

You probably got mixed up with their McDonnell-Douglas MD-80

I hope you are right because I'd love to see JetBlue fly to Guyana. I have my JetBlue card by American Express. 

Of course I am making the assumption that Rohee's spy agency will let me into Guyana. 

FM
Leisure air used small aircraft to G./T during the 90's. I'm not sure  if they were A320's. Could've been. But one thing I am sure about was when you touch down in Guyana,  your luggage doesn't always touch down with you. Not doing that again either.
Sheik101
Originally Posted by baseman:
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I traveled with Delta twice, it was half-full.  i think it's to do with demand than anything else.

 

Looks like Delta's management decided the Guyana route was not profitable enough!

 

WHAT HAPPENS IF CARIBBEAN AIRLINES WERE TO STOP FLYING INTO GUYANA ?

 

That would be interesting!

 

How long does a boat ride from NY to Guyana take ?

 

Rev


 

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by baseman:
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I traveled with Delta twice, it was half-full.  i think it's to do with demand than anything else.

 

Looks like Delta's management decided the Guyana route was not profitable enough!

 

WHAT HAPPENS IF CARIBBEAN AIRLINES WERE TO STOP FLYING INTO GUYANA ?

 

That would be interesting!

 

How long does a boat ride from NY to Guyana take ?

 

Rev


 


All them oldtimes use to America by boat.

Prashad
Originally Posted by Prashad:

Jetblue is in Brazil. I cannot see why they cannot fly from  Brazil to Guyana and pick up people then fly to New York.

Dem Brazilians afraid the wheels would get tief.

cain

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