Baseman posted:How come you claim you are anti-PPP because of the current cabal but you defending the PNC actions of the 70s?
Bhai , it's not defending , just trying to get the facts.
Baseman posted:How come you claim you are anti-PPP because of the current cabal but you defending the PNC actions of the 70s?
Bhai , it's not defending , just trying to get the facts.
Attached is a paper on the PL 480 Program History.
Ayuh take a read.
GUYANA ABOUT TO RUN OUT OF FOREIGN RESERVES: STRINGENT
IMPORT RESTRICTIONS LIKELY, BUT WILL HAVE LITTLE EFFECT ON TRADE
DEFICIT
1974 January 24
http://wikileaks.org/plusd/cab...74GEORGE00111_b.html
SUMMARY: PM BURNHAM IS EXPECTED TO ANNOUNCE SHORTLY GOG
MEASURES TO REDUCE CURRENT ACCOUNT PAYMENTS. THESE MEASURES,IMPORT BANS, AND TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS, WILL PROBABLY NOT PROVE SUFFICIENT TO DIMINISH GUYANA'S INCREASING CURRENT
ACCOUNT DEFICIT, AND DRAW DOWN OF FOREIGN ASSETS. EMBASSY
ESTIMATES A $30 MILLION (ALL US) TO $40 MILLION MERCHANDISE
TRADE DEFICIT FOR 1974 DESPITE IMPORT BANS UNLESS SOME RELIEF
FROM HIGH FUEL COSTS IS FOUND. FURTHER SHORTAGES OF BASIC
FOODS LIKELY, WITH CONSEQUENT CIVIL UNREST A LURKING
POSSIBILITY. END SUMMARY.
1. GROWING FEARS OF FINANCIAL CHAOS HAVE PROMOTED PM BURNHAM
TO HOLD SEVERAL MEETINS WITH BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL
GROUPS SINCE EARLIER DISCUSSION WITH LABOR LEADERS (REFTEL).
UNDOUBTEDLY BURNHAM IS SETTING STAGE FOR MAZOR ADDRESS TO
NATION ON NEW MEASURES TO REDUCE IMPORTS AND FOREIGN EXCHANGE OUTFLOW. EVEN SEVERE CURTAILMENT OF SO-CALLED NON-ESSENTIALS AND FOREIGN TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS WILL NOT LIKELY PROVE SUFFICIENT TO WARD OFF RESERVES DRAW DOWN TO POINT WHERE BANK OF GUYANA WILL BE UNABLE TO CASH CHECKS EXTERNALLY, NOR WILL GUYANESE BE ABLE TO PURCHASE OVERSEAS AIRLINE TICKETS WITH OTHER THAN HARD CURRENCY. OTHER EMBARRASSING AS WELL AS BURDENSOME EFFECTS ARE IN STORE, SUCH AS HIGHER PRICES FOR ESSENTIAL IMPORTS PARTIALLY BROUGHT ABOUT BY NECESSARILY SOFTER CREDIT TERMS. SOME TEMPORARY RELIEF MAY COME IF GOG CAN OBTAIN MEDIUM-TERM FINANCING FROM COMMERCIAL MONEY MARKETS.
2. 1974 TRADE PICTURE DOES NOT BRIGTEN OTHERWISE GLOOMY
SITUATION. NORMAL DOMESTIC DEMAND FOR IMPORTS WILL PROBABLY
REMAIN AT ABOUT LAST YEAR'S LEVEL OF $155 MILLION. TO THIS
MUST ADD ESTIMATED $28 MILLION IN INCREASED FUEL COSTS,
$5 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL WHEAT COST, AND VERY CONSERVATIVE
AVERAGE PRICE INFLATION FOR OTHER IMPORTS ABOUT $6 MILLION.
THIS WOULD BRING TOTAL IMPORT BILL TO $194 MILLION.
EVEN MOST OPTIMISTIC ESTIMATE 1974 EXPORTS, WHICH ASSUMES BAUXITE PRODUCTION AND SALES 15 PERCENT ABOVE LAST YEAR, AND SUGAR EXPORTS (320,000 LT5 AT MOST FAVORABLE PRICES, WOULD STILL LEAVE A MERCHANDISE TRADE DEFICIT OF $21 MILLION. IMPORT BANS ON A
NUMBER OF ITEMS (PARA 4 REFTEL) COULD BRING THE DEFICIT
FIGURE DOWN TO $13 MILLION. MORE LIKELY OUTCOME, WHICH
THOUGH ALSO OPTIMISTIC IS NOT UNREALISTIC, ENVISIONS 10
PERCENT INCREASE IN BAUXITE EARNINGS OVER 1972 DUE MAINLY TO
STRONGER MARKETS FOR CALCINED BAUXITE BRINGING IN TOTAL OF
$66 MILLION: AND SALES OF 320,000 LT(LONG TONS) SUGAR WITH 189,000
LT GOING TO UK AT $135/LT AND REMAINING 131,000 LT TO US AT
$242/LT GIVING TOTAL OF $57 MILLION. BOTH CASES ASSUME
GROWTH OF OTHER EXPORTS TO TOTAL $30 MILLION. THIS STILL
LEAVES TRADE DEFICIT OF $33 MILLION EVEN AFTER ALLOWANCE FOR
REDUCED IMPORTS DUE TO BANNING. OVERALL ASSUMPTION IS THAT
GOG WILL BE ABLE TO FINANCE DEFICIT THROUGH CAPITAL ACCOUNT
INFLOW.
3. PRODUCTION ESTIMATES FOR SUGAR AND BAUXITE ASSUME GOOD
WEATHER CONDITIONS, LITTLE OR NO LABOR PROBLEMS, AND OPTIMUM
MAINTENANCE OF PLANT AND EQUIPMENT. ANOTHER DISASTROUS
YEAR LIK091973 COULD, HOWEVER, BEGGAR THIS COUNTRY, BRING
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS TO A STANDSTILL, AND CREATE
SHORTAGES OF FOODSTUFFS, AND OTHER ESSENTIAL HERETOFORE
NOT EXPERIENCED. ALREADY THERE IS EVIDENCE OF THE POOREST
CLASS LIVING MORE AND MORE OUTSIDE OF THE MONEY ECONOMY.
THE WORKING PPOR WHOSE WAGES HAVE NOT KEPT UP WITH PRICE
INCREASES WILL BE HARDEST HIT BY BANS, AND CONSEQUENT FURTHER
PRICE INCREASES FOR SUBSTITUTES. IF BUTTER IS BANNED FOR
EXAMPLE, RELATIVELY EXPENSIVE MARGERINE FROM CARIFTA
EXPORTERS WILL PROBABLY REPLACE IT. ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS
RICE PRODUCTION, WHICH HAS NOT SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED FOR
PAST TEN YEARS, AND INDEED DECLINED SHARPLY IN 1972 AND 1973.
THERE WILL BE A GREATER DOMESTIC DEMAND FOR RICE IF POTATOES
ARE BANNED, (GUYANA CONSUMES ABOUT 18 MILLION LBS. ANNUALLY)
THUS FORCING THE DECISION TO EXPORT LESS OR DECREASE
DOMESTIC SUPPLY.
4. SHORTAGES IN AND OF THEMSELVES, NOT CAUSE FOR ALARM OR
PREDICTIONS CIVIL DISTURBANCES. WHAT COULD TRIGGER THIS,
HOWEVER, ARE UNCONTROLLAGE PRICE INCREASES FOR IMPORTED
ESSENTIALS, AND NECESSARY PRICE INCREASES OF CONTROLLED DOMESTIC GOODS IN ORDERTO MAINTAIN PRODUCTION LEVELS.
WITH EXCEPTION GOG'S WHEAT SUBSIDY, IT DIFFICULT TO FATHOM HOW GOG CAN AVOID PASSING ON FURTHER INCREASES TO CONSUMERS. IN ANY EVENT,OPPOSITION PPP WILL UNDOUBTEDLY PLAY BURNHAM'S IMMINENT AUSTERITY ANNOUNCEMENT TO HILT. WILL REPORT REACTIONS. KING
http://wikileaks.org/plusd/cab...74GEORGE00725_b.html
(C) STATE 226952 OF 11/19/73
GUYANA NO LONGER ELIGIBLE FOR PL-480 TITLE I SALES. SEE
REFS (B) AND (C). KREBS
UNCLASSIFIED
Pay attention to the dates , wheat was still importing in 1974.
POSSIBLE APPLICATION FROM GOG FOR EXIMBANK FINANCING
OF IMPORTS U.S. WHEAT
1974 February 12
http://wikileaks.org/plusd/cab...74GEORGE00215_b.html
1. MINISTER OF TRADE APPROACHED LOCAL BRANCH CHASE MANHATTAN
BANK SEEKING LOW-INTEREST SHORT-TERM CREDIT FOR FINANCING 1974
IMPORTS OF WHEAT (GUYANA IMPORTS ALL ITS WHEAT FROM U.S.)
FINANCING REQUIRED ON LEVEL $8-9 MILLION(US).
2. EMBASSY REQUESTS FURTHER INFORMATION ON EXIM'S
COMMERCIAL BANK CREDIT LOAN PROGRAM FOR AGRICULTURAL COMMODITY EXPORTS. GIVEN GUYANA'S FOREIGN EXCHANGE PROBLEM (REF A), COUNTRY APPARENTLY CANNOT MAINTAIN IMPORT WHEAT AT PRESENT LEVEL WITHOUT SOME FORM OF CREDIT. GUYANA INELIGIBLE FOR PL-480 TITLE I ASSISTANCE . (REF B). APPRECIATE REPLY SOONEST. KING
OPPOSITION TO BURNHAM -- THE MIDDLE CLASS WEIGHS IN
1979 August 21
http://wikileaks.org/plusd/cab...79GEORGE03724_e.html
1. (C-ENTIRE TEXT)
2. SUMMARY. ON AUGUST 16 PROMINENT SOLICITOR DAVID DE CAIRES
AND INSURANCE EXECUTIVE COLIN CHOLMONDELEY CALLED ON THE
AMBASSADOR AND PRESENTED HIM WITH A RESOLUTION CALLING FOR
THE RESIGNATION OF THE BURNHAM GOVERNMENT, THE ESTABLISHMENT
OF A CARETAKER POPULAR FRONT REGIME AND THE ORGANIZATION OF
POPULAR ELECTIONS SUPERVISED BY THE UNITED NATIONS OR OTHERCARIBBEAN GOVERNMENTS. RESOLUTION HAS BEEN SIGNED BY 46
PROMINENT GUYANESE CITIZENS, MOST OF WHOM ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT IS LEFT OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR IN GUYANA AND SOME
ACTIVE/RETIRED PUBLIC SERVANTS. THE LIST INCLUDES MANY
INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE NOT WITHIN THE RECENT PAST BEEN
INVOLVED IN POLITICAL ACTIVITY IN GUYANA. END SUMMARY.
3. DE CAIRES (THE PRINCIPAL SPOKESMAN FOR THE PAIR)
EXPLAINED THE GENESIS OF THE PETITION AND THE MAKE-UP
OF THE GROUP; HE INDICATED THAT AN EFFORT HAD BEEN
MADE BY HIM AND THE OTHER ORGANIZERS TO SEEK OUT AND
ENLIST THOSE RESPONSIBLE INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE NOT
ASSOCIATED WITH THE WORKING PEOPLE'S ALIANCE (WPA),
THE LABOR UNIONS, OR ANY OF THE OTHER GROUPS WHICH HAVE BECOME INVOLVED IN ANTI-GOVERNMENT PROTESTS OVER THE
LAST TWO YEARS. THUS THE SIGNERS WERE THOSE PREVIOUSLY
UNCOMMITTED INDIVIDUALS WHO HAD DECIDED THAT
THE TIME HAD COME TO TAKE A STAND. THEY ARE CONVINCED
THAT THE GOG CONTROLLED BY BURNHAM AND THE PNC IS BENT
ON A COURSE WHICH WILL RESULT IN THE SYSTEMATIC REMOVAL
OF PERSONAL FREEDOMS AND THE EVENTUAL IMPOSITION OF A
ONE PARTY STATE UNDER THE CONSTITUTION NOW BEING
DRAFTED IN THE CONSTITUENT ASSEMBLY. THEY ARE ALSO
CONCERNED OVER GROWING VIOLENCE IN THE POLITICAL LIKE
OF THE COUNTRY. (THE STABBING DEATH OF FATHER DARKE
ON JULY 14 WAS CITED AS WELL AS RECENT "HARRASSMENT"
EFFORTS BY THE GOVERNMENT TO DISRUPT "ILLEGAL" POLITICAL
MEETINGS.) DE CAIRES SAID THAT HE AND HIS FELLOW SIGNATORIES WERE PARTICULARLY CONCERNED THAT "WASHINGTON
BE MADE AWARE OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN GUYANA" SO THAT
THE VARIOUS ALLEGED VIOLATIONS OF HUMAN RIGHTS WERE
BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE USG. HE PARTICULARLY
PROTESTED THE USG'S CONTINUED "PROPPING UP" OF THE
BURNHAM GOVERNMENT THROUGH ITS AID PROGRAM, ALLEGING
THAT USG POLICY VIS-A-VIS GUYANA HAD NOT REALLY CHANGED
SINCE THE EARLY 1960S, AND THAT AMERICANS CONTINUED
TO FEEL THAT BURNHAM IS THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE TO
DR. CHEDDI JAGAN OF THE PEOPLE'S PROGRESSIVE PARTY
AND THAT BURNHAM IS STILL "BETTER THAN CHEDDI" AND SHOULD RECEIVE AUTOMATIC AMERITIC AMERICAN SUPPORT AS A
CONSEQUENCE. DE CAIRES CONTENDS THAT NOW THAT GREAT BULK OF GUYANESE PEOPLE, BOTH AFRO AND INDIAN, HAVE
HAD ENOUGH OF BURNHAM AND ARE PREPARED TO TAKE THEIR
CHANCES WITH ALMOST ANY ALTERNATIVE GOVERNMENT.
4. THE AMBASSADOR REPLIED BY SAYING THE USG WAS NOT
"SUPPORTING" THE BURNHAM GOVERNMENT. THE USG DID, HOWEVER, HAVE NOGST RELATIONS WITH THE PRESENT GOG BECAUSE IT WAS AFTER ALL THE LEGALLY RECOGNIZED GOVERNMENT OF GUYANA. HE POINTED OUT THAT THE AMERICAN AID PROGRAM IN GUYANA WAS IN STRICT CONFORMITY WITH THE CONGRESSIONAL MANDATE. IT WAS CONCENTRATED LARGELY IN THE AGRICULTURAL SECTION BECAUSE THERE IS WAS FELT MORE BENEFITS COULD BE DERIVE TO THE GUYANESE PEOPLE. AS FAR AS HUMAN RIGHTS WERE CONCERNED, THE AMBASSADOR FURTHER POINTED OUT THE U.S. GOVERNMENT WAS REQUIRED BY THE CONGRESS TO PRESENT A STATEMENT EACH YEAR ON
THE HUMAN RIGHTS SITUATION IN EVERY NATION WHERE THERE
WAS AN AMERICAN ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. THIS WAS DONE
IN THE CASE OF GUYANA. THAT REQUIREMENT HAD NOW BEEN
BROADENED TO INCLUDE HUMAN RIGHTS STATEMENTS ON EVERY NATION WHICH IS A MEMBER OF THE UNITED NATIONS. A NEW HUMAN RIGHTS REPORT ON GUYANA WOULD BE PREPARED BY THE END OF THE YEAR AND WOULD BE SUBMITTED TO CONGRESS AFTER WHICH IT WOYLD BE MADE PUBLIC. SUCH A STATEMENT WOULD OBVIOUSLY TAKE ACCOUNT OF THE SITUATION PREVAILING IN GUYANA IN THE TWELVE MONTHS PRIOR TO THE
SUBMISSION OF THE REPORT.
5. THE AMBASSADOR THEN ASKED DE CAIRES WHERE HE AND
HIS GROUP EXPECTED TO GO NEXT. DE CAIRES REPLIED THAT
THE GROUP WOULD BE CONSULTING WITH VARIOUS OTHER
OPPOSITION GROUPS NOTABLY THE WORKING PEOPLES ALLIANCE(WPA) AND PEOPLE PROGRESSIVE PARTY (PPP). HE FELT THAT DESPITE THE POSITIONS TAKEN BY THESE TWO GROUPS IN OPPOISITION TO FREE ENTERPRISE AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR SOME SORT OF AN ACCOMMODATION COULD BE REACHED IN ORDER TO ENABLE ALL OPPOISITION GROUPS TO MAKE COMMON CAUSE AGAINST BURNHAM END HIS PARTY. DE CAIRES REITERATED HIS BELIEF THAT HE VAST MAJORITY OF THE GUYANESE PEOPLE WERE FED-UP WITH BURNHAM AND THE PARTY
WHICH HAS CONTROLLED GUYANA SINCE INDEPENDENCE AND THAT
SOME SORT OF CHANGE MUST NOW BE EFFECTED.
6. COMMENT: THE "MIDDLE CLASS MANIFESTO" WHICH
DE CAIRES AND HIS COLLABORATORS HAVE FASHIONED IS
VAGUE IN THE EXTREME. IT REALLY REPRESENTS MORE THAN
ANYTHING ELSE A CRI DE COEUR RATHER THAN A BLUE PRINT
FOR POLITICAL ACTION. THERE ARE MANY SURPRISING NAMES
ON THE LIST SUCH AS ARTHUR BELGRAVE, THE GENERAL MANAGER
OF GUYANA TRINIDAD MUTUAL INSURANCE, ERNEST CHRISTIANI,
PRESIDENT OF THE GEORGETOWN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE,
AND POET LAUREATE ARTHUR SEYMOUR. BY AND LARGE THESE
INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN CAREFULLY APOLITICAL IN THE PAST.
THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO SPEAK OUT AT THE
PRESENT TIME INDCATES THAT THE OPPOSITION TO BURNHAM
IS RANGED BROADLY ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM.
UNFORTUNATELY, BY STANDING UP TO BE COUNTED IN THE WAY THEY HAVE CHOSEN THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE VERY LIKELY TO
DRAW THE IRE OF THE GOVERNMENT, AND THE AMOUNT OF
RECIPROCAL SUPPORT THAT THE WPA AND PPP ARE LIKELY TO
LEND THEM SEEMS QUESTIONABLE. THEY COULD FIND THEMSELVES IN THE "MIDDLE" AND THE TARGETS FOR SOME SORT OF
REVENGE IN THE FUTURE SHOULD THE GOG WEATHER THE CURRENT
STORM. THIS VENGEANCE COULD EASILY TAKE THE FORM OF
NATIONALIZATION OF PRIVATELY OWNED INSURANCE COMPANIES
WHICH THE GOVERNMENT HAS REFRAINED FROM IN THE PAST,
BECAUSE, IN ADDITION TO BELGRAVE, THERE ARE TWO SENIOR OFFICIALS FROM OTHER PRIVATE INSURANCE COMPAINES ON THE
LIST OF SIGNATORIES. BURKE
Bai DJ. All you na done with this flour business yet ? Talk bout roti and food na.
Django posted:GUYANA ABOUT TO RUN OUT OF FOREIGN RESERVES: STRINGENT
IMPORT RESTRICTIONS LIKELY, BUT WILL HAVE LITTLE EFFECT ON TRADE
DEFICIT1974 January 24
http://wikileaks.org/plusd/cab...74GEORGE00111_b.html
SUMMARY: PM BURNHAM IS EXPECTED TO ANNOUNCE SHORTLY GOG
MEASURES TO REDUCE CURRENT ACCOUNT PAYMENTS. THESE MEASURES,IMPORT BANS, AND TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS, WILL PROBABLY NOT PROVE SUFFICIENT TO DIMINISH GUYANA'S INCREASING CURRENT
ACCOUNT DEFICIT, AND DRAW DOWN OF FOREIGN ASSETS. EMBASSY
ESTIMATES A $30 MILLION (ALL US) TO $40 MILLION MERCHANDISE
TRADE DEFICIT FOR 1974 DESPITE IMPORT BANS UNLESS SOME RELIEF
FROM HIGH FUEL COSTS IS FOUND. FURTHER SHORTAGES OF BASIC
FOODS LIKELY, WITH CONSEQUENT CIVIL UNREST A LURKING
POSSIBILITY. END SUMMARY.
1. GROWING FEARS OF FINANCIAL CHAOS HAVE PROMOTED PM BURNHAM
TO HOLD SEVERAL MEETINS WITH BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL
GROUPS SINCE EARLIER DISCUSSION WITH LABOR LEADERS (REFTEL).
UNDOUBTEDLY BURNHAM IS SETTING STAGE FOR MAZOR ADDRESS TO
NATION ON NEW MEASURES TO REDUCE IMPORTS AND FOREIGN EXCHANGE OUTFLOW. EVEN SEVERE CURTAILMENT OF SO-CALLED NON-ESSENTIALS AND FOREIGN TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS WILL NOT LIKELY PROVE SUFFICIENT TO WARD OFF RESERVES DRAW DOWN TO POINT WHERE BANK OF GUYANA WILL BE UNABLE TO CASH CHECKS EXTERNALLY, NOR WILL GUYANESE BE ABLE TO PURCHASE OVERSEAS AIRLINE TICKETS WITH OTHER THAN HARD CURRENCY. OTHER EMBARRASSING AS WELL AS BURDENSOME EFFECTS ARE IN STORE, SUCH AS HIGHER PRICES FOR ESSENTIAL IMPORTS PARTIALLY BROUGHT ABOUT BY NECESSARILY SOFTER CREDIT TERMS. SOME TEMPORARY RELIEF MAY COME IF GOG CAN OBTAIN MEDIUM-TERM FINANCING FROM COMMERCIAL MONEY MARKETS.
2. 1974 TRADE PICTURE DOES NOT BRIGTEN OTHERWISE GLOOMY
SITUATION. NORMAL DOMESTIC DEMAND FOR IMPORTS WILL PROBABLY
REMAIN AT ABOUT LAST YEAR'S LEVEL OF $155 MILLION. TO THIS
MUST ADD ESTIMATED $28 MILLION IN INCREASED FUEL COSTS,
$5 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL WHEAT COST, AND VERY CONSERVATIVE
AVERAGE PRICE INFLATION FOR OTHER IMPORTS ABOUT $6 MILLION.
THIS WOULD BRING TOTAL IMPORT BILL TO $194 MILLION.EVEN MOST OPTIMISTIC ESTIMATE 1974 EXPORTS, WHICH ASSUMES BAUXITE PRODUCTION AND SALES 15 PERCENT ABOVE LAST YEAR, AND SUGAR EXPORTS (320,000 LT5 AT MOST FAVORABLE PRICES, WOULD STILL LEAVE A MERCHANDISE TRADE DEFICIT OF $21 MILLION. IMPORT BANS ON A
NUMBER OF ITEMS (PARA 4 REFTEL) COULD BRING THE DEFICIT
FIGURE DOWN TO $13 MILLION. MORE LIKELY OUTCOME, WHICH
THOUGH ALSO OPTIMISTIC IS NOT UNREALISTIC, ENVISIONS 10
PERCENT INCREASE IN BAUXITE EARNINGS OVER 1972 DUE MAINLY TO
STRONGER MARKETS FOR CALCINED BAUXITE BRINGING IN TOTAL OF
$66 MILLION: AND SALES OF 320,000 LT(LONG TONS) SUGAR WITH 189,000
LT GOING TO UK AT $135/LT AND REMAINING 131,000 LT TO US AT
$242/LT GIVING TOTAL OF $57 MILLION. BOTH CASES ASSUME
GROWTH OF OTHER EXPORTS TO TOTAL $30 MILLION. THIS STILL
LEAVES TRADE DEFICIT OF $33 MILLION EVEN AFTER ALLOWANCE FOR
REDUCED IMPORTS DUE TO BANNING. OVERALL ASSUMPTION IS THAT
GOG WILL BE ABLE TO FINANCE DEFICIT THROUGH CAPITAL ACCOUNT
INFLOW.
3. PRODUCTION ESTIMATES FOR SUGAR AND BAUXITE ASSUME GOOD
WEATHER CONDITIONS, LITTLE OR NO LABOR PROBLEMS, AND OPTIMUM
MAINTENANCE OF PLANT AND EQUIPMENT. ANOTHER DISASTROUS
YEAR LIK091973 COULD, HOWEVER, BEGGAR THIS COUNTRY, BRING
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS TO A STANDSTILL, AND CREATE
SHORTAGES OF FOODSTUFFS, AND OTHER ESSENTIAL HERETOFORE
NOT EXPERIENCED. ALREADY THERE IS EVIDENCE OF THE POOREST
CLASS LIVING MORE AND MORE OUTSIDE OF THE MONEY ECONOMY.
THE WORKING PPOR WHOSE WAGES HAVE NOT KEPT UP WITH PRICE
INCREASES WILL BE HARDEST HIT BY BANS, AND CONSEQUENT FURTHER
PRICE INCREASES FOR SUBSTITUTES. IF BUTTER IS BANNED FOR
EXAMPLE, RELATIVELY EXPENSIVE MARGERINE FROM CARIFTA
EXPORTERS WILL PROBABLY REPLACE IT. ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS
RICE PRODUCTION, WHICH HAS NOT SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED FOR
PAST TEN YEARS, AND INDEED DECLINED SHARPLY IN 1972 AND 1973.
THERE WILL BE A GREATER DOMESTIC DEMAND FOR RICE IF POTATOES
ARE BANNED, (GUYANA CONSUMES ABOUT 18 MILLION LBS. ANNUALLY)
THUS FORCING THE DECISION TO EXPORT LESS OR DECREASE
DOMESTIC SUPPLY.
4. SHORTAGES IN AND OF THEMSELVES, NOT CAUSE FOR ALARM OR
PREDICTIONS CIVIL DISTURBANCES. WHAT COULD TRIGGER THIS,
HOWEVER, ARE UNCONTROLLAGE PRICE INCREASES FOR IMPORTED
ESSENTIALS, AND NECESSARY PRICE INCREASES OF CONTROLLED DOMESTIC GOODS IN ORDERTO MAINTAIN PRODUCTION LEVELS.WITH EXCEPTION GOG'S WHEAT SUBSIDY, IT DIFFICULT TO FATHOM HOW GOG CAN AVOID PASSING ON FURTHER INCREASES TO CONSUMERS. IN ANY EVENT,OPPOSITION PPP WILL UNDOUBTEDLY PLAY BURNHAM'S IMMINENT AUSTERITY ANNOUNCEMENT TO HILT. WILL REPORT REACTIONS. KING
http://wikileaks.org/plusd/cab...74GEORGE00725_b.html
(C) STATE 226952 OF 11/19/73
GUYANA NO LONGER ELIGIBLE FOR PL-480 TITLE I SALES. SEE
REFS (B) AND (C). KREBS
UNCLASSIFIED
Pay attention to the dates , wheat was still importing in 1974.
There was an outright ban on flour from 82 to 86. That is a fact jack. Guyana council of churches pleaded with Burnham and then Hoyte for some reprieve but they did not relent. Instead the insist the american owned flour mill be converted to producing rice flour and set about various schemes to make that palatable but it never caught on. Flour on the black market was some 8 dollars a pound. In 1986 when the flour mill was allowed to import flour the added a tax of 1.60 per pound but the demand was such it killed the black marked and stabilized around 3.00 a pound. There is no if and or but on this. Flour was banned.
Django posted:GUYANA ABOUT TO RUN OUT OF FOREIGN RESERVES: STRINGENT
IMPORT RESTRICTIONS LIKELY, BUT WILL HAVE LITTLE EFFECT ON TRADE
DEFICIT1974 January 24
http://wikileaks.org/plusd/cab...74GEORGE00111_b.html
SUMMARY: PM BURNHAM IS EXPECTED TO ANNOUNCE SHORTLY GOG
MEASURES TO REDUCE CURRENT ACCOUNT PAYMENTS. THESE MEASURES,IMPORT BANS, AND TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS, WILL PROBABLY NOT PROVE SUFFICIENT TO DIMINISH GUYANA'S INCREASING CURRENT
ACCOUNT DEFICIT, AND DRAW DOWN OF FOREIGN ASSETS. EMBASSY
ESTIMATES A $30 MILLION (ALL US) TO $40 MILLION MERCHANDISE
TRADE DEFICIT FOR 1974 DESPITE IMPORT BANS UNLESS SOME RELIEF
FROM HIGH FUEL COSTS IS FOUND. FURTHER SHORTAGES OF BASIC
FOODS LIKELY, WITH CONSEQUENT CIVIL UNREST A LURKING
POSSIBILITY. END SUMMARY.
1. GROWING FEARS OF FINANCIAL CHAOS HAVE PROMOTED PM BURNHAM
TO HOLD SEVERAL MEETINS WITH BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL
GROUPS SINCE EARLIER DISCUSSION WITH LABOR LEADERS (REFTEL).
UNDOUBTEDLY BURNHAM IS SETTING STAGE FOR MAZOR ADDRESS TO
NATION ON NEW MEASURES TO REDUCE IMPORTS AND FOREIGN EXCHANGE OUTFLOW. EVEN SEVERE CURTAILMENT OF SO-CALLED NON-ESSENTIALS AND FOREIGN TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS WILL NOT LIKELY PROVE SUFFICIENT TO WARD OFF RESERVES DRAW DOWN TO POINT WHERE BANK OF GUYANA WILL BE UNABLE TO CASH CHECKS EXTERNALLY, NOR WILL GUYANESE BE ABLE TO PURCHASE OVERSEAS AIRLINE TICKETS WITH OTHER THAN HARD CURRENCY. OTHER EMBARRASSING AS WELL AS BURDENSOME EFFECTS ARE IN STORE, SUCH AS HIGHER PRICES FOR ESSENTIAL IMPORTS PARTIALLY BROUGHT ABOUT BY NECESSARILY SOFTER CREDIT TERMS. SOME TEMPORARY RELIEF MAY COME IF GOG CAN OBTAIN MEDIUM-TERM FINANCING FROM COMMERCIAL MONEY MARKETS.
2. 1974 TRADE PICTURE DOES NOT BRIGTEN OTHERWISE GLOOMY
SITUATION. NORMAL DOMESTIC DEMAND FOR IMPORTS WILL PROBABLY
REMAIN AT ABOUT LAST YEAR'S LEVEL OF $155 MILLION. TO THIS
MUST ADD ESTIMATED $28 MILLION IN INCREASED FUEL COSTS,
$5 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL WHEAT COST, AND VERY CONSERVATIVE
AVERAGE PRICE INFLATION FOR OTHER IMPORTS ABOUT $6 MILLION.
THIS WOULD BRING TOTAL IMPORT BILL TO $194 MILLION.EVEN MOST OPTIMISTIC ESTIMATE 1974 EXPORTS, WHICH ASSUMES BAUXITE PRODUCTION AND SALES 15 PERCENT ABOVE LAST YEAR, AND SUGAR EXPORTS (320,000 LT5 AT MOST FAVORABLE PRICES, WOULD STILL LEAVE A MERCHANDISE TRADE DEFICIT OF $21 MILLION. IMPORT BANS ON A
NUMBER OF ITEMS (PARA 4 REFTEL) COULD BRING THE DEFICIT
FIGURE DOWN TO $13 MILLION. MORE LIKELY OUTCOME, WHICH
THOUGH ALSO OPTIMISTIC IS NOT UNREALISTIC, ENVISIONS 10
PERCENT INCREASE IN BAUXITE EARNINGS OVER 1972 DUE MAINLY TO
STRONGER MARKETS FOR CALCINED BAUXITE BRINGING IN TOTAL OF
$66 MILLION: AND SALES OF 320,000 LT(LONG TONS) SUGAR WITH 189,000
LT GOING TO UK AT $135/LT AND REMAINING 131,000 LT TO US AT
$242/LT GIVING TOTAL OF $57 MILLION. BOTH CASES ASSUME
GROWTH OF OTHER EXPORTS TO TOTAL $30 MILLION. THIS STILL
LEAVES TRADE DEFICIT OF $33 MILLION EVEN AFTER ALLOWANCE FOR
REDUCED IMPORTS DUE TO BANNING. OVERALL ASSUMPTION IS THAT
GOG WILL BE ABLE TO FINANCE DEFICIT THROUGH CAPITAL ACCOUNT
INFLOW.
3. PRODUCTION ESTIMATES FOR SUGAR AND BAUXITE ASSUME GOOD
WEATHER CONDITIONS, LITTLE OR NO LABOR PROBLEMS, AND OPTIMUM
MAINTENANCE OF PLANT AND EQUIPMENT. ANOTHER DISASTROUS
YEAR LIK091973 COULD, HOWEVER, BEGGAR THIS COUNTRY, BRING
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS TO A STANDSTILL, AND CREATE
SHORTAGES OF FOODSTUFFS, AND OTHER ESSENTIAL HERETOFORE
NOT EXPERIENCED. ALREADY THERE IS EVIDENCE OF THE POOREST
CLASS LIVING MORE AND MORE OUTSIDE OF THE MONEY ECONOMY.
THE WORKING PPOR WHOSE WAGES HAVE NOT KEPT UP WITH PRICE
INCREASES WILL BE HARDEST HIT BY BANS, AND CONSEQUENT FURTHER
PRICE INCREASES FOR SUBSTITUTES. IF BUTTER IS BANNED FOR
EXAMPLE, RELATIVELY EXPENSIVE MARGERINE FROM CARIFTA
EXPORTERS WILL PROBABLY REPLACE IT. ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS
RICE PRODUCTION, WHICH HAS NOT SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED FOR
PAST TEN YEARS, AND INDEED DECLINED SHARPLY IN 1972 AND 1973.
THERE WILL BE A GREATER DOMESTIC DEMAND FOR RICE IF POTATOES
ARE BANNED, (GUYANA CONSUMES ABOUT 18 MILLION LBS. ANNUALLY)
THUS FORCING THE DECISION TO EXPORT LESS OR DECREASE
DOMESTIC SUPPLY.
4. SHORTAGES IN AND OF THEMSELVES, NOT CAUSE FOR ALARM OR
PREDICTIONS CIVIL DISTURBANCES. WHAT COULD TRIGGER THIS,
HOWEVER, ARE UNCONTROLLAGE PRICE INCREASES FOR IMPORTED
ESSENTIALS, AND NECESSARY PRICE INCREASES OF CONTROLLED DOMESTIC GOODS IN ORDERTO MAINTAIN PRODUCTION LEVELS.WITH EXCEPTION GOG'S WHEAT SUBSIDY, IT DIFFICULT TO FATHOM HOW GOG CAN AVOID PASSING ON FURTHER INCREASES TO CONSUMERS. IN ANY EVENT,OPPOSITION PPP WILL UNDOUBTEDLY PLAY BURNHAM'S IMMINENT AUSTERITY ANNOUNCEMENT TO HILT. WILL REPORT REACTIONS. KING
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(C) STATE 226952 OF 11/19/73
GUYANA NO LONGER ELIGIBLE FOR PL-480 TITLE I SALES. SEE
REFS (B) AND (C). KREBS
UNCLASSIFIED
Pay attention to the dates , wheat was still importing in 1974.
Pay attention to the words "IMPORT BANS" right at the beginning of the document above.
Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:Who imported that Studebaker car that Burnham bought and never paid a cent for allowing it to be seized by the importer?
Tell we naah, you are younger and not short of memory.
All this time you coulda ask Gilly, he is much younger than me. Studebaker was owned by Sankar Brothers. Lila Kissoon daaddy was one of the Brothers. It was a very expensive car driven by the colonialists and aristocrats of British Guiana. Burnham like this car bad bad but he canât afford it. The car had two âwingsâ at the back that pointed upward.
So Burnham decide to buy the car on credit. Sankar say ok no problem. Burnham drive home the car. Never paid the money for the car as per agreement. Shankar showed up couple times for his money. Burnham say he nah got no money. Sankar decide to flex his lil collie muscle and re-possess the car.
Burnham fly into a fury. Next thing you know he tek Hope Estate to retaliate pan Sankar. And that my friends is the story of how Burnham became the owner of Hope Estate.
Bibi Haniffa posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:Who imported that Studebaker car that Burnham bought and never paid a cent for allowing it to be seized by the importer?
Tell we naah, you are younger and not short of memory.
All this time you coulda ask Gilly, he is much younger than me. Studebaker was owned by Sankar Brothers. Lila Kissoon daaddy was one of the Brothers. It was a very expensive car driven by the colonialists and aristocrats of British Guiana. Burnham like this car bad bad but he canât afford it. The car had two âwingsâ at the back that pointed upward.
So Burnham decide to buy the car on credit. Sankar say ok no problem. Burnham drive home the car. Never paid the money for the car as per agreement. Shankar showed up couple times for his money. Burnham say he nah got no money. Sankar decide to flex his lil collie muscle and re-possess the car.
Burnham fly into a fury. Next thing you know he tek Hope Estate to retaliate pan Sankar. And that my friends is the story of how Burnham became the owner of Hope Estate.
That sounds like the 1958 Studebaker.
Bibi Haniffa posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:Who imported that Studebaker car that Burnham bought and never paid a cent for allowing it to be seized by the importer?
Tell we naah, you are younger and not short of memory.
All this time you coulda ask Gilly, he is much younger than me. Studebaker was owned by Sankar Brothers. Lila Kissoon daaddy was one of the Brothers. It was a very expensive car driven by the colonialists and aristocrats of British Guiana. Burnham like this car bad bad but he canât afford it. The car had two âwingsâ at the back that pointed upward.
So Burnham decide to buy the car on credit. Sankar say ok no problem. Burnham drive home the car. Never paid the money for the car as per agreement. Shankar showed up couple times for his money. Burnham say he nah got no money. Sankar decide to flex his lil collie muscle and re-possess the car.
Burnham fly into a fury. Next thing you know he tek Hope Estate to retaliate pan Sankar. And that my friends is the story of how Burnham became the owner of Hope Estate.
Thank you for the story about the "Studebaker car" .
If you don't mind, what year was that ?
This photo was taken from the book Cheddi Jagan, My fight for Guyana's Freedom https://www.amazon.com/fight-G...-Jagan/dp/0968405908
I have an autographed copy.
Photo of Cheddi, with his mother, brothers and sisters.
LEFT to right, Arjoon, Sirpaul, Oudit, Cheddi, Naipaul and Derek
Edith, Barbara, Patricia, Cheddi Mother, `Indrani and Doris
Taken at Arjoon's Wedding. Dec 4 1965
Stormborn posted:http://wikileaks.org/plusd/cab...74GEORGE00725_b.html
(C) STATE 226952 OF 11/19/73
GUYANA NO LONGER ELIGIBLE FOR PL-480 TITLE I SALES. SEE
REFS (B) AND (C). KREBS
UNCLASSIFIED
Pay attention to the dates , wheat was still importing in 1974.
There was an outright ban on flour from 82 to 86. That is a fact jack. Guyana council of churches pleaded with Burnham and then Hoyte for some reprieve but they did not relent. Instead the insist the american owned flour mill be converted to producing rice flour and set about various schemes to make that palatable but it never caught on. Flour on the black market was some 8 dollars a pound. In 1986 when the flour mill was allowed to import flour the added a tax of 1.60 per pound but the demand was such it killed the black marked and stabilized around 3.00 a pound. There is no if and or but on this. Flour was banned.
That's not possible ,PL 480 Agreement was restarted on the following dates, things cooled down between the US and Guyana after the Cubana Air Disaster.
PL 480 AGREEMENT OPERATIONAL REPORTING CABLE
1978 January 24
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REQUEST ATUHORIZATION TO SIGN AGREEMENT ON BEHALF USG.
INFORMATION REQUIRED BY REFTELS AS FOLLOWS:
1. PROPOSED TYPES AND GRADES COMMODITIES. THESE BEING REVIEWED
CURRENTLY AND DECISIONS EXPECTED WITHIN NEXT TWO TO THREE DAYS.WILL PROVIDE INFO BY CABLE OR TELEPHONE UPON RECEIPT. GOG
AMBASSADOR MANN CURRENTLY IN GEORGETOWN IS BEING GIVEN DETAILEDPROCUREMENT INFORMATION FOR EACH COMMODITY INCLUDING GRADES,TYPES CONTRACTING AND DELIVERY SCHEDULES BY GNTC.
2. PROPOSED CONTRACTING AND DELIVERY SCHEDULE. FOR BOTH WEHAT FLOUR AND VEGETABLE OIL, IFB'S ARE PLANNED FOR ISSUANCE
EARLIEST POSSIBLE DATE FOLLOWING SIGNING AGREEMENT FOR 3600 MT
FLOUR AND 1500 MT VEG OIL WITH DELIVERIES STAGGERED AS FOLLOWS FOR WHEAT FLOUR FOUR SHIPMENTS 18,000 SACKS 100 LB EACH EVERYSIX TO EIGHT WEEKS WITH FIRST SHIPMENT TO BE MADE EARLIEST DATE AFTER CONTRACTING. FOR VEGOIL SIX SHIPMENT 1360 DRUMS OF 45
GAL EACH EVERY FOUR TO SIX WEEKS WITH FIRST SHIPMENT PROMPTLY
AFTER CONTRACTING. FOR TOBACCO PROCUREMENT 100 MT TO BE NEGOTIATED WITH DELIVERY 50 MT APRIL AND BALANCE AUGUST. GOG AWARE NECESSITY ALL SHIPMENTS MUST BE MADE PRIOR SEPTEMBER 30 AND ACTUAL DELIVERY SCHEDULES WILL BE ADJUSTED ACCORDINGLY.
3. BASED UPON PROPOSED PROCUREMENT, CONTRACTING AND DELIVERY
SCHEDULES, IT IS COUNTRY TEAM ASSESSMENT THAT THE PORT, STORAGE AND DISTRUBUTION FACILITIES OF THE GUYANA NATIONAL TRADING CORP TO WHICH IMPORTS ARE TO BE CONSIGNED ARE ADEQUATE TO HANDLE, STORE AND DISTRUBUTE COMMODITIES. THE ASSESSMENT REPORTED IN
GEORGETOWN 3215 OF DECEMBER 14
IS STILL VALID AND IS NOT LIKELY TO CHANGE OR WORSEN.
4. CENTRAL BANK OF GUYANA WILL HANDLE FINANCING TRANSACTIONS
FOR GUYANA WITH CORRESPONDENT BANK IN US TO BE NAMED SHORTLY.
WILL FURNISH THIS INFO PROMPTLY WHEN AVAILABLE.
5. HAVE BEEN ORALLY ASSURED FINANCING OF INITIAL PAYMENT AND
FREIGHT COSTS WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE ON TIMELY BASIS BY GNTC.
6. SIGNING SCHEDULED FOR 10:30 AM GEORGETOWN TIME ON FRIDAY
BURKE
PL 480 AGREEMENT
1978 January 27
AGREEMENT SIGNED BY DESMOND HOYTE, MINISTER OF ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT AND COOPERATIVES ON BEHALF OF GOVERNMENT OF
GUYANA AND AMBASSADOR JOHN R. BURKE ON BEHALF OF USG AT
0830 AM ON JANUARY 27, 1978. BURKE
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My points are presented with facts and not hearsay , you be the judge if wheat flour was "banned" . Which political party at the time propagate such lies , to score points ?
Guyana produced poor historians , they all have an angle to present facts.
Prior to the incorporation in 1969 of the National Milling Company of Guyana Inc. (NAMILCO), a subsidiary of Seaboard Corporation of the USA, Guyana imported flour from various suppliers. Seaboard Corporation based in Shawnee Mission, Kansas City, USA saw an opportunity to set up a flour mill in Guyana and negotiated with the Government in 1967 to make this a reality. The land was purchased in 1967 in Agricola and construction by Taylor Woodrow & Associates and Ocrim of Italy was completed in 1969. NAMILCO was officially opened on May 17, 1969 by the then Prime Minister Forbes Burnham. Seaboard owns, either wholly or in partnership, mills in Africa, Haiti, Colombia and Ecuador.
The mill was established with a capacity to produce 3,300 one hundred-pound sacks per twenty four-hour period and 45 workers were hired. As demand for the product increased, employment opportunity for Guyanese expanded and we were the first manufacturing enterprise in Guyana to operate three 8-hour shifts per day. The milling equipment was imported from Italy and the electrical and storage bins came from the United States.
NAMILCO operated a successful business importing wheat from the USA and milling it in Guyana throughout the 1970s. However in 1982 the Government in power banned flour, among other food items, because of a decline in the economy. A thriving underground economy and runaway inflation resulted as business people procured foreign exchange on the black-market and smuggled products into Guyana. Customs and Police targeted flour for seizures as suppliers and consumers defied the ban. NAMILCO was asked to mill rice into flour which was intended as a substitute for wheaten flour but this failed since rice lacked the gluten vital to bread making.
The ban on flour was lifted in 1986 and NAMILCO, which had maintained a skeleton staff during the 4-Â― years, immediately commenced the refurbishing of the mill. The Government of Guyana negotiated with the USDA to obtain wheat under the Public Law No. 480 and an agreement was reached in 1986. In August 1986 NAMILCO resumed production of flour. A levy was introduced by the Government which was meant for the development of the Agriculture Sector and the Government through various distributors controlled flour sales. Later, with the opening of the economy under the ERP initiative, the levy was dropped and the mill was allowed to sell flour directly to the public.
NAMILCO operated successfully with wheat provided under the PL 480 Title 1 and Title 3 programs and Section 416 (b). Under these programs the US Government through the USDA provided the wheat to the Government of Guyana. NAMILCO purchased that wheat at market prices from the Guyana Government and milled it into flour. Commercial wheat purchased by NAMILCO from the USA was sometimes imported to supplement any shortfall in the yearly PL 480 allocation.
In 1998 we recognized the need for smaller packaged products and NAMILCO was the first company in Guyana to commence packaging of bulk products into one and two kilogram packets. Rice followed and more recently, sugar. We also recognized the need for convenience products to meet the changing needs and taste of consumers. Today small packaging accounts for a significant portion of our production under our two successful brand names â Thunderbolt and Maid Marian.
Over the years NAMILCO has re-tooled the mill installing state of the art Buhler Packaging machines, scales, roller mills and storage silos. As we continue to do so, we strive to produce a consistent quality product. On our 40th Anniversary, we achieved ISO 9001 certification and through this we have committed to develop, maintain and continually improve our Quality Management System.
NAMILCO now exports flour and specialty flour products to the Caribbean, Suriname, North America and Northern Brazil. Together with our parent company, Seaboard Corporation, we strive to become a significant milling operation in the region.
Seaboard Corporation in Shawnee Mission, near Kansas City, KS, USA
Amral posted:Photo of Cheddi, with his mother, brothers and sisters.
LEFT to right, Arjoon, Sirpaul, Oudit, Cheddi, Naipaul and Derek
Edith, Barbara, Patricia, Cheddi Mother, `Indrani and Doris
Taken at Arjoon's Wedding. Dec 4 1965
Edith Armogan, Barbara Fries, Doris Persram.
Baseman posted:How come you claim you are anti-PPP because of the current cabal but you defending the PNC actions of the 70s?
Django thinks he slick. ð
ksazma posted:Baseman posted:How come you claim you are anti-PPP because of the current cabal but you defending the PNC actions of the 70s?
Django thinks he slick. ð
Watch out for razor blades .
Hey hey hey...dem PPP bais lookin foh excuse foh cuss burnham foh ban dhal and roti...hey hey hey...but dem doan want talk bout de Burnham constitution that dem mattie Jagdoe looooooovveee foh abuse peopkle...hey hey hey.
Labba, we does have to hide and eat we Dhall, Roti and Aloo under Burnham and you blame we for being vex. The cops arrested a Berbice lady wid one karahee of cooked aloo. De lady eat out the aloo on the way to the station ! They had to release she due to a lack of evidence.
Hey hey hey
Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:Who imported that Studebaker car that Burnham bought and never paid a cent for allowing it to be seized by the importer?
Tell we naah, you are younger and not short of memory.
All this time you coulda ask Gilly, he is much younger than me. Studebaker was owned by Sankar Brothers. Lila Kissoon daaddy was one of the Brothers. It was a very expensive car driven by the colonialists and aristocrats of British Guiana. Burnham like this car bad bad but he canât afford it. The car had two âwingsâ at the back that pointed upward.
So Burnham decide to buy the car on credit. Sankar say ok no problem. Burnham drive home the car. Never paid the money for the car as per agreement. Shankar showed up couple times for his money. Burnham say he nah got no money. Sankar decide to flex his lil collie muscle and re-possess the car.
Burnham fly into a fury. Next thing you know he tek Hope Estate to retaliate pan Sankar. And that my friends is the story of how Burnham became the owner of Hope Estate.
Thank you for the story about the "Studebaker car" .
If you don't mind, what year was that ?
The 1958 Studebaker car has the two pointed wings.
Prashad posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:Who imported that Studebaker car that Burnham bought and never paid a cent for allowing it to be seized by the importer?
Tell we naah, you are younger and not short of memory.
All this time you coulda ask Gilly, he is much younger than me. Studebaker was owned by Sankar Brothers. Lila Kissoon daaddy was one of the Brothers. It was a very expensive car driven by the colonialists and aristocrats of British Guiana. Burnham like this car bad bad but he canât afford it. The car had two âwingsâ at the back that pointed upward.
So Burnham decide to buy the car on credit. Sankar say ok no problem. Burnham drive home the car. Never paid the money for the car as per agreement. Shankar showed up couple times for his money. Burnham say he nah got no money. Sankar decide to flex his lil collie muscle and re-possess the car.
Burnham fly into a fury. Next thing you know he tek Hope Estate to retaliate pan Sankar. And that my friends is the story of how Burnham became the owner of Hope Estate.
Thank you for the story about the "Studebaker car" .
If you don't mind, what year was that ?
The 1958 Studebaker car has the two pointed wings.
The Hawk series of sporty coupes followed in 1956. Behind this 1957 Golden Hawkâs classic grille stood a supercharged, 275-bhp V-8.
Like this ???
Bibi Haniffa posted:Amral posted:Photo of Cheddi, with his mother, brothers and sisters.
LEFT to right, Arjoon, Sirpaul, Oudit, Cheddi, Naipaul and Derek
Edith, Barbara, Patricia, Cheddi Mother, `Indrani and Doris
Taken at Arjoon's Wedding. Dec 4 1965
Edith Armogan, Barbara Fries, Doris Persram.
Which one of those ladies you met on the plane?
Django posted:Prashad posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:Who imported that Studebaker car that Burnham bought and never paid a cent for allowing it to be seized by the importer?
Tell we naah, you are younger and not short of memory.
All this time you coulda ask Gilly, he is much younger than me. Studebaker was owned by Sankar Brothers. Lila Kissoon daaddy was one of the Brothers. It was a very expensive car driven by the colonialists and aristocrats of British Guiana. Burnham like this car bad bad but he canât afford it. The car had two âwingsâ at the back that pointed upward.
So Burnham decide to buy the car on credit. Sankar say ok no problem. Burnham drive home the car. Never paid the money for the car as per agreement. Shankar showed up couple times for his money. Burnham say he nah got no money. Sankar decide to flex his lil collie muscle and re-possess the car.
Burnham fly into a fury. Next thing you know he tek Hope Estate to retaliate pan Sankar. And that my friends is the story of how Burnham became the owner of Hope Estate.
Thank you for the story about the "Studebaker car" .
If you don't mind, what year was that ?
The 1958 Studebaker car has the two pointed wings.
The Hawk series of sporty coupes followed in 1956. Behind this 1957 Golden Hawkâs classic grille stood a supercharged, 275-bhp V-8.
Like this ???
Yes
I love those cars with the fins. DG promised to get me one of those when I retire. The 1958 Chevy is also very nice.
Ah gat in mint condition ah 1971 Chevy fuh yuh.
I love Chevys. What colour is it ? Put it away for me deh.
Red/maroon colour with lovely decals/conditioning by my auto-mechanic.
Dat is one of my favourites. I once had a 1987 Chevy pick up. Regret not keeping it. Anyway, thanks. Put it safely in storage fuh me deh.
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