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APNU's Davis Granger said that President Ramotar didn't invite any members from the opposition to attend Nelson Mandela's memorial service in South Africa. Nelson Mandela fought for equal rights for all South Africans, and to be among a world icon would mean to show greater tolerance for racial equality that is against what Mandela stood for. Did President Ramotar make a blunder, or he didn't understand what Mandela really stood for? The Mandela memorial was an event to put partisan politics aside and show unity. President Obama said both Blacks, and Whites are oppressors of their citizens and people of the world are fighting their own for equal right and justice. President Ramotar should have invited the opposition on this trip. It was the right to do, but he failed.

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Originally Posted by Cobra:

APNU's Davis Granger said that President Ramotar didn't invite any members from the opposition to attend Nelson Mandela's memorial service in South Africa. Nelson Mandela fought for equal rights for all South Africans, and to be among a world icon would mean to show greater tolerance for racial equality that is against what Mandela stood for. Did President Ramotar make a blunder, or he didn't understand what Mandela really stood for? The Mandela memorial was an event to put partisan politics aside and show unity. President Obama said both Blacks, and Whites are oppressors of their citizens and people of the world are fighting their own for equal right and justice. President Ramotar should have invited the opposition on this trip. It was the right to do, but he failed.Don't the OPPOSITION

 

Wait, the opposition don't plan for themselves??  Or are they only known for a WELFARE kind of System. Do they really care about Mr Mandela???   What BLOODY NONESENCE I am hearing here!!!

Nehru
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Cobra:

APNU's Davis Granger said that President Ramotar didn't invite any members from the opposition to attend Nelson Mandela's memorial service in South Africa. Nelson Mandela fought for equal rights for all South Africans, and to be among a world icon would mean to show greater tolerance for racial equality that is against what Mandela stood for. Did President Ramotar make a blunder, or he didn't understand what Mandela really stood for? The Mandela memorial was an event to put partisan politics aside and show unity. President Obama said both Blacks, and Whites are oppressors of their citizens and people of the world are fighting their own for equal right and justice. President Ramotar should have invited the opposition on this trip. It was the right to do, but he failed.Don't the OPPOSITION

 

Wait, the opposition don't plan for themselves??  Or are they only known for a WELFARE kind of System. Do they really care about Mr Mandela???   What BLOODY NONESENCE I am hearing here!!!

the point is protocol demands the President extends the invitation. Imagine the embarrassment to the state if Granger had taken the time and attend at his own expense. Actually, I wished he did and took the time to go before the international press and speak to mandela's memory with special emphasis on how unlike he was to Jabba the Hutt Ramotar and his party who cannot let a day pass without looking in the rear view mirror to blame the opposition.

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Cobra:

 President Ramotar should have invited the opposition on this trip. It was the right to do, but he failed.

 

 

 

Rev

It is not an encumbrance of language but a reluctance to acknowledge the PPP lives in a world of the blame game. Adaptive leadership and consensus on problem solving is not their thing. They operate in God mode.

FM
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Cobra:

APNU's Davis Granger said that President Ramotar didn't invite any members from the opposition to attend Nelson Mandela's memorial service in South Africa. Nelson Mandela fought for equal rights for all South Africans, and to be among a world icon would mean to show greater tolerance for racial equality that is against what Mandela stood for. Did President Ramotar make a blunder, or he didn't understand what Mandela really stood for? The Mandela memorial was an event to put partisan politics aside and show unity. President Obama said both Blacks, and Whites are oppressors of their citizens and people of the world are fighting their own for equal right and justice. President Ramotar should have invited the opposition on this trip. It was the right to do, but he failed.Don't the OPPOSITION

 

Wait, the opposition don't plan for themselves??  Or are they only known for a WELFARE kind of System. Do they really care about Mr Mandela???   What BLOODY NONESENCE I am hearing here!!!

Jagan protege. God help Guyana from IDIOTS like you.

S
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Donald Ramotar is the Head of State of Guyana, and the opposition cannot overshadow him on certain world stage. His had the option to invite the opposition as a good gesture to attend Nelson Mandela's memorial, but he failed. He made an impression that there is two Guyana like most of you are creating here on GNI. I don't care what the opposition does or didn't do. The president has a greater and responsible role to play when representing the Guyanese nation as a whole, and we must hold him to it. The president is not perfect but we must remind him of his mistake that is plastered all over (KN).

FM

Opposition Leader, David Granger is assured of a range of benefits along with his salary and a pension, following the passage in 2010 of the Leader of the Opposition (Benefits and Other Facilities) Bill 2009
According to the legislation, the holder of the office shall be entitled at government expense to rent-free furnished office accommodation; medical attention, including medical treatment or reimbursement of medical expenses incurred by him for himself and the dependent members of his family; full-time security service at his official place of residence and at his office to be provided by the Guyana Police Force; the services of a research assistant, an executive assistant/secretary, a clerical/office assistant, a chauffeur, a personal security officer, a gardener and two domestic servants; and salary, vacation allowance and parliamentary benefits equivalent to those of a Cabinet minister.

Source

FM

Ramoutar made the correct decision, in these times of budget cuts, it would not be frugal spending of taxpayers dollars to pay for Granger's trip to the Mandela memorial. Also Granger stands for everything that Mandela was against. It would be an insult to Mandela considering Granger's repressive role during the Burnham/Hoyte's years.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
the point is protocol demands the President extends the invitation.

Which specific area of protocol demands what you have expressed?

does the word magnanimity and consideration for the other half of the nation who despises the fat one and his party simply because they play the blame game?

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Ramoutar made the correct decision, in these times of budget cuts, it would not be frugal spending of taxpayers dollars to pay for Granger's trip to the Mandela memorial. Also Granger stands for everything that Mandela was against. It would be an insult to Mandela considering Granger's repressive role during the Burnham/Hoyte's years.

I do not see the template of a Mandela in the PPP or their agents. You should be the least to speak to this since by your own words you to not think black people are of substantial intellect to be leaders.

 

I would like for you to tell us what Granger did that so wounds you. I would like to hear of these dastardly deeds not the generalized scapegoating that is apparently the creed of those racists here of your ilk to blame any GDF narrative on his head. Note Joe Singh is a belived of the PPP among others so I want to know why this fellow is now the PPP whipping boy.

FM
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Originally Posted by Danyael:

Imagine the embarrassment to the state if Granger had taken the time and attend at his own expense. Actually, I wished he did and took the time to go before the international press and speak to mandela's memory with special emphasis on how unlike he was to Jabba the Hutt Ramotar and his party who cannot let a day pass without looking in the rear view mirror to blame the opposition.

Continued nonsense from Danyael.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Ramoutar made the correct decision, in these times of budget cuts, it would not be frugal spending of taxpayers dollars to pay for Granger's trip to the Mandela memorial. Also Granger stands for everything that Mandela was against. It would be an insult to Mandela considering Granger's repressive role during the Burnham/Hoyte's years.

You can continue to be Ramotar's mouth piece and help him to lose the next general election. Get with the program and don't speak of things that are irreverent.

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
the point is protocol demands the President extends the invitation.

Which specific area of protocol demands what you have expressed?

does the word magnanimity and consideration for the other half of the nation who despises the fat one and his party simply because they play the blame game?

And, Danyael, the specific protocol is .... ???

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Danyael:

Imagine the embarrassment to the state if Granger had taken the time and attend at his own expense. Actually, I wished he did and took the time to go before the international press and speak to mandela's memory with special emphasis on how unlike he was to Jabba the Hutt Ramotar and his party who cannot let a day pass without looking in the rear view mirror to blame the opposition.

Continued nonsense from Danyael.

 Reach for your sanatogen...or order up a few bottles...add some marmite and ovaltine to the list. The absence of these native nutriments could possibly save you from being  such a persistent dolt

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Danyael:

Imagine the embarrassment to the state if Granger had taken the time and attend at his own expense. Actually, I wished he did and took the time to go before the international press and speak to mandela's memory with special emphasis on how unlike he was to Jabba the Hutt Ramotar and his party who cannot let a day pass without looking in the rear view mirror to blame the opposition.

Continued nonsense from Danyael.

 Reach for your sanatogen...or order up a few bottles...add some marmite and ovaltine to the list. The absence of these native nutriments could possibly save you from being  such a persistent dolt

Were you a useless and persistent dolt who then used sanatogen to gain a bit of sanity?

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

Danyeal and his other handlers are swiftly running out of criticisms against the state and is trying their best to attract a ray of limelight for the political gathering they feverishly represent.

My dear man, I have an oceans measure of complaint against the PPP to date. Their reputation and industrial strength corrupt practice would demand an army to address. Surely you jest that there will ever remotely be a dearth of issues to complain about.

 

And sir, this idea of handlers is apt for you not me. I simply do a citizens duty for a land and a people dear to me.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Danyael:

Imagine the embarrassment to the state if Granger had taken the time and attend at his own expense. Actually, I wished he did and took the time to go before the international press and speak to mandela's memory with special emphasis on how unlike he was to Jabba the Hutt Ramotar and his party who cannot let a day pass without looking in the rear view mirror to blame the opposition.

Continued nonsense from Danyael.

 Reach for your sanatogen...or order up a few bottles...add some marmite and ovaltine to the list. The absence of these native nutriments could possibly save you from being  such a persistent dolt

Were you a useless and persistent dolt who then used sanatogen to gain a bit of sanity?

the rules of insult say you do not steal my lines....

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Ramoutar made the correct decision, in these times of budget cuts, it would not be frugal spending of taxpayers dollars to pay for Granger's trip to the Mandela memorial. Also Granger stands for everything that Mandela was against. It would be an insult to Mandela considering Granger's repressive role during the Burnham/Hoyte's years.

I do not see the template of a Mandela in the PPP or their agents. You should be the least to speak to this since by your own words you to not think black people are of substantial intellect to be leaders.

 

I would like for you to tell us what Granger did that so wounds you. I would like to hear of these dastardly deeds not the generalized scapegoating that is apparently the creed of those racists here of your ilk to blame any GDF narrative on his head. Note Joe Singh is a belived of the PPP among others so I want to know why this fellow is now the PPP whipping boy.

It is irrelevant to be a template for Mandela as a requirement for an elected head of state to attend the memorial. In fact the PPP went above and beyond Mandela as they shared milk to blacks via excessive subsidies to their community. Granger on the other hand is not a head of state and as such should not be treated as one. Why should Ramoutar treat this terrorist with tax payers dollars when the budget is cut and this fool try to block progress for the nation at every turn?

 

Granger's only qualification is an army man, he is not suitable to lead a country on a capitalist path. He was involved in tampering with ballot boxes and intimidation of Indians. He was a Burnham enforcer during the dark days when voices from the opposition were repressed. Don't play stupid. He even claimed recently that Indians got what they deserved back in 1964 in Mackenzie, Wismar and Christianburg

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:
 

You can continue to be Ramotar's mouth piece and help him to lose the next general election. Get with the program and don't speak of things that are irreverent.

In fact I felt that Ramotar was unsuitable for the presidency and this has been evidenced in the way he lost the parliament and handled the Linden and Agricola incidents. Guyana needs a president with backbone to beat back the evil pnc/afc who are bent on destroying the nation. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Ramoutar made the correct decision, in these times of budget cuts, it would not be frugal spending of taxpayers dollars to pay for Granger's trip to the Mandela memorial. Also Granger stands for everything that Mandela was against. It would be an insult to Mandela considering Granger's repressive role during the Burnham/Hoyte's years.

I do not see the template of a Mandela in the PPP or their agents. You should be the least to speak to this since by your own words you to not think black people are of substantial intellect to be leaders.

 

I would like for you to tell us what Granger did that so wounds you. I would like to hear of these dastardly deeds not the generalized scapegoating that is apparently the creed of those racists here of your ilk to blame any GDF narrative on his head. Note Joe Singh is a belived of the PPP among others so I want to know why this fellow is now the PPP whipping boy.

It is irrelevant to be a template for Mandela as a requirement for an elected head of state to attend the memorial. In fact the PPP went above and beyond Mandela as they shared milk to blacks via excessive subsidies to their community. Granger on the other hand is not a head of state and as such should not be treated as one. Why should Ramoutar treat this terrorist with tax payers dollars when the budget is cut and this fool try to block progress for the nation at every turn?

 

Granger's only qualification is an army man, he is not suitable to lead a country on a capitalist path. He was involved in tampering with ballot boxes and intimidation of Indians. He was a Burnham enforcer during the dark days when voices from the opposition were repressed. Don't play stupid. He even claimed recently that Indians got what they deserved back in 1964 in Mackenzie, Wismar and Christianburg

I am sure the PPP was there to insist they extol if not reflect his principles. Among these is the adaptive leadership strategy and one unconcerned with blame seeking and hanging on to claims of sacred victimization.

 

Ranotar by virtue of his being General Secretary of the party at a time when it hired a drug lord to act as its principal assassin is more culpable for wrongs than Granger who was a soldier committed to follow the instruction of his commander or be court martialed. So far for your argument about terrorists.

 

Ramotar is a graduate of Gimpex u. I am sure the idea of being a leader is more instilled in one inculcated in military discipline than a shop clerk. The claim that he said Indians got what they deserve is no less testing the elastic limit of words as the one where he is supposed to say the sugar workers are the PPP business.

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Ramoutar made the correct decision, in these times of budget cuts, it would not be frugal spending of taxpayers dollars to pay for Granger's trip to the Mandela memorial. Also Granger stands for everything that Mandela was against. It would be an insult to Mandela considering Granger's repressive role during the Burnham/Hoyte's years.

I do not see the template of a Mandela in the PPP or their agents. You should be the least to speak to this since by your own words you to not think black people are of substantial intellect to be leaders.

 

I would like for you to tell us what Granger did that so wounds you. I would like to hear of these dastardly deeds not the generalized scapegoating that is apparently the creed of those racists here of your ilk to blame any GDF narrative on his head. Note Joe Singh is a belived of the PPP among others so I want to know why this fellow is now the PPP whipping boy.

It is irrelevant to be a template for Mandela as a requirement for an elected head of state to attend the memorial. In fact the PPP went above and beyond Mandela as they shared milk to blacks via excessive subsidies to their community. Granger on the other hand is not a head of state and as such should not be treated as one. Why should Ramoutar treat this terrorist with tax payers dollars when the budget is cut and this fool try to block progress for the nation at every turn?

 

Granger's only qualification is an army man, he is not suitable to lead a country on a capitalist path. He was involved in tampering with ballot boxes and intimidation of Indians. He was a Burnham enforcer during the dark days when voices from the opposition were repressed. Don't play stupid. He even claimed recently that Indians got what they deserved back in 1964 in Mackenzie, Wismar and Christianburg

I am sure the PPP was there to insist they extol if not reflect his principles. Among these is the adaptive leadership strategy and one unconcerned with blame seeking and hanging on to claims of sacred victimization.

 

Ranotar by virtue of his being General Secretary of the party at a time when it hired a drug lord to act as its principal assassin is more culpable for wrongs than Granger who was a soldier committed to follow the instruction of his commander or be court martialed. So far for your argument about terrorists.

 

Ramotar is a graduate of Gimpex u. I am sure the idea of being a leader is more instilled in one inculcated in military discipline than a shop clerk. The claim that he said Indians got what they deserve is no less testing the elastic limit of words as the one where he is supposed to say the sugar workers are the PPP business.

 

 

Dummy, he graduated from UG with an economics degree. You on the other hand stole a spot from a deserving Black in second rate Howard university.  The sugar industry is in decline, not because of any decision made by Ramoutar but rather the nature of the industry. It is just not a profitable industry without massive mechanization, cheap fuel, low wages work force and erratic weather patterns. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:

Ramoutar made the correct decision, in these times of budget cuts, it would not be frugal spending of taxpayers dollars to pay for Granger's trip to the Mandela memorial. Also Granger stands for everything that Mandela was against. It would be an insult to Mandela considering Granger's repressive role during the Burnham/Hoyte's years.

I do not see the template of a Mandela in the PPP or their agents. You should be the least to speak to this since by your own words you to not think black people are of substantial intellect to be leaders.

 

I would like for you to tell us what Granger did that so wounds you. I would like to hear of these dastardly deeds not the generalized scapegoating that is apparently the creed of those racists here of your ilk to blame any GDF narrative on his head. Note Joe Singh is a belived of the PPP among others so I want to know why this fellow is now the PPP whipping boy.

It is irrelevant to be a template for Mandela as a requirement for an elected head of state to attend the memorial. In fact the PPP went above and beyond Mandela as they shared milk to blacks via excessive subsidies to their community. Granger on the other hand is not a head of state and as such should not be treated as one. Why should Ramoutar treat this terrorist with tax payers dollars when the budget is cut and this fool try to block progress for the nation at every turn?

 

Granger's only qualification is an army man, he is not suitable to lead a country on a capitalist path. He was involved in tampering with ballot boxes and intimidation of Indians. He was a Burnham enforcer during the dark days when voices from the opposition were repressed. Don't play stupid. He even claimed recently that Indians got what they deserved back in 1964 in Mackenzie, Wismar and Christianburg

I am sure the PPP was there to insist they extol if not reflect his principles. Among these is the adaptive leadership strategy and one unconcerned with blame seeking and hanging on to claims of sacred victimization.

 

Ranotar by virtue of his being General Secretary of the party at a time when it hired a drug lord to act as its principal assassin is more culpable for wrongs than Granger who was a soldier committed to follow the instruction of his commander or be court martialed. So far for your argument about terrorists.

 

Ramotar is a graduate of Gimpex u. I am sure the idea of being a leader is more instilled in one inculcated in military discipline than a shop clerk. The claim that he said Indians got what they deserve is no less testing the elastic limit of words as the one where he is supposed to say the sugar workers are the PPP business.

 

 

Dummy, he graduated from UG with an economics degree. You on the other hand stole a spot from a deserving Black in second rate Howard university.  The sugar industry is in decline, not because of any decision made by Ramoutar but rather the nature of the industry. It is just not a profitable industry without massive mechanization, cheap fuel, low wages work force and erratic weather patterns. 

Yes UG woop de dooo!

 

Dude, you are insubstantial in every way. Howard would have made a man out of you had you the privileged to attend a school which on average has generated more of our engineers, doctors, leaders etc in the third world. Please tell us of the great school that produced you!

 

The sugar industry declined due to a failure to innovate and the stupid decision to build a mega factory on the opposite end of the cane agriculture zone and closing Albion before the crippled plant even came on line. It suffered because Robert Failed to submit his requirements for the EU subsidy and above all for not diversifying sooner. And that is not counting its cronyism in hiring and a complete copying of the colonial class hierarchy in management.

 

Further...why waste money if things are so bad with the sugar market? Why not cut back...but then there is that mega plant that sucked close to a half a billion dollars and is still to get its sea legs.

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Anan:

After reading some of this pampalampum DTUUU gibberish.....I am kinda convinced that ah sakawinki is a burd. 

Why deprive us of such rare genius as yours? I am am always open to persuasion by the more sublime understanding  of issues and events as you say you possess. Next time do not be so parsimonious with your insights.

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

Yes UG woop de dooo!

 

Dude, you are insubstantial in every way. Howard would have made a man out of you had you the privileged to attend a school which on average has generated more of our engineers, doctors, leaders etc in the third world. Please tell us of the great school that produced you!

 

The sugar industry declined due to a failure to innovate and the stupid decision to build a mega factory on the opposite end of the cane agriculture zone and closing Albion before the crippled plant even came on line. It suffered because Robert Failed to submit his requirements for the EU subsidy and above all for not diversifying sooner. And that is not counting its cronyism in hiring and a complete copying of the colonial class hierarchy in management.

 

Further...why waste money if things are so bad with the sugar market? Why not cut back...but then there is that mega plant that sucked close to a half a billion dollars and is still to get its sea legs.

 

 

 

My father was a UG graduate and so were many successful people who went on to go overseas and excel in their field of work. What you neglect to mention about Howard is that it is also famous for producing dollar store clerks.  I mentioned many time the school I attended, you need to dig through the archives rather than go to propaganda press for your information.

 

The sugar industry was abandoned by the rest of the Caribbean because it was unprofitable and they had tourism to fall back on. In Guyana's case it was "too big to fail" and so the idiots in PPP took the advice of prestigious management firm Booker Tate and invested in the Skeldon factory without planning for mechanization of the fields.  

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

Yes UG woop de dooo!

 

Dude, you are insubstantial in every way. Howard would have made a man out of you had you the privileged to attend a school which on average has generated more of our engineers, doctors, leaders etc in the third world. Please tell us of the great school that produced you!

 

The sugar industry declined due to a failure to innovate and the stupid decision to build a mega factory on the opposite end of the cane agriculture zone and closing Albion before the crippled plant even came on line. It suffered because Robert Failed to submit his requirements for the EU subsidy and above all for not diversifying sooner. And that is not counting its cronyism in hiring and a complete copying of the colonial class hierarchy in management.

 

Further...why waste money if things are so bad with the sugar market? Why not cut back...but then there is that mega plant that sucked close to a half a billion dollars and is still to get its sea legs.

 

 

 

My father was a UG graduate and so were many successful people who went on to go overseas and excel in their field of work. What you neglect to mention about Howard is that it is also famous for producing dollar store clerks.  I mentioned many time the school I attended, you need to dig through the archives rather than go to propaganda press for your information.

 

The sugar industry was abandoned by the rest of the Caribbean because it was unprofitable and they had tourism to fall back on. In Guyana's case it was "too big to fail" and so the idiots in PPP took the advice of prestigious management firm Booker Tate and invested in the Sheldon factory without planning for mechanization of the fields.  

So what if your daddy was a graduate there? Does that make it the greatest? I know fellows who came out of there with undergraduate degrees that got their asses swamped in US schools. 

 

Get it into your knuckle head. Dollar store clerks make more than graveyard groundskeeper...he  he he.....

 

Taking the difficulties of  others in the Caribbean in producing sugar profitably is not our problem. There is still a fair market value for it if cost are kept down and  quality high. Plus we have the kind of economy of scale they do not have. Sugar is still profitable or we would not have the vast cultivated plots in the American south.

 

Further, the more members of the Caribbean community out, the greater our local market size. I am sure there is a place for the Guyanese sugar industry at a manageable scale. I doubt the PPP are so stupid  that hey invest so much if they did not see a persisting  market. That Skeldon plant was supposed to have an annual output of some half a billion tons!

 

 

FM
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Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
 

 

 

My father was a UG graduate and so were many successful people who went on to go overseas and excel in their field of work.

I would pay for you to get a DNA test. That man may be your daddy, he ain't your father. Look at how you are a turncoat and a servant to the white man for pittances on his payroll. 

 

Where did you learn your English?

Mitwah
Originally Posted by TI:

Since when the opposition want freeness?  Oops, I forgot they are Guyanese.

I'm surprised that the PPP hasn't realized by now that supplying some free food, rum, and lil perks in Parliament would ensure full support.  

Dude, you take these things as a joke and massage the same tradition of racist stereotype that has been so injurious to our society and that is is truly despicable. Shame on you.

 

There is no humor in the reality of a people being slighted. Yes, I firmly believe in our fractured political reality, Ramotar should have been prudent to invite  the opposition to attend so Guyana could have a united face at this occasion. It is not his money. It is the nations and the supporters of the PNC being one half of our society needs to feel included. Then again, you as the PPP,  see them as baggage!

 

It is truly despicable that a man of you experience  and close association with prejudice to your religious community can  so tastelessly and willingly to be a race baiter at this time. But then what is the central theme of this thread if not insensitivity of an Indian led government to our racial divide!

FM
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Where is the Mandela in our leaders?

December 11, 2013 | By | Filed Under Letters 

  Dear Editor, ONE of the best responses to Nelson Mandela’s passing is for the leaders of the ruling oligarchy not to pretend that they are his friends but to honor his legacy of peace, reconciliation and a commitment to uplifting the lives of all the citizens of Guyana. Actually, this is the hallmark of an honest, caring and incorruptible politician. It is without a doubt that Nelson Mandela is proof that such politicians do exist but not in Guyana. He forgave those who did him wrong, promoted peace, equality and harmony, and nurtured others to do likewise. As we hear, the numerous tributes from the leaders of the ruling cabal here, recounting the courage and magnanimity of Mandela, we wonder how many will listen to themselves, will take the time to ponder the nice words, and act on them. Mandela was not corrupt, greedy or spiteful and was never interested in personal wealth or in using the state resources to fatten his pocket and those of his relatives and friends as is the case in Guyana. He was for justice and equality and during his tenure as president he did not use his power to marginalize any ethnic groups or promote ethnic superiority, something he could have easily done because of the treatment he received. We believe that real leaders must be ready to sacrifice all for the freedom of their people. But if we are to use this as a yardstick to measure those in the regime then no one is qualified to be called a leader.  No one is asking any of our leaders to spend 27 years in jail protesting against injustice by an evil regime. Our national heroes have already sacrificed their lives and braved the authorities to win for us our basic rights. What we are asking of those in the PPP leadership is to afford every Guyanese regardless of their ethnicity or party affiliations the right to have a job, to obtain a contract from the government, earn a decent salary, to have equal access to the state resources and to enjoy a safe and just society. We are not heartened by the Minister of Home Affairs incompetency and lack of skills to reduce crime and his silly statement that the blame game over garbage removal in the city is good politics. Only idiots make such foolish remarks. We call on the minister to tell the nation what good comes to Guyana when innocent law abiding citizens are robbed and murdered in their homes or at their place of work. Furthermore, we are not impressed with the lies made recently by two ministers who Dr. Luncheon had to publicly rebuke. These ministers have sworn to tell the truth and the fact that they have lied to the nation and have not been fired shows that they are not accountable to anyone but themselves. This is the clique that is pretending to mourn Mandela’s death. Well, we want them to know that Mandela was neither a phony nor a hypocrite by any stretch of the imagination. He was a genuine human being who was committed to freedom, justice and fairness. We are saying to the leaders of the PPP let the people see the Mandela in you. Let them see the unflinching courage, the perseverance, the passion and the genuine commitment to free the people from crime and illiteracy. Let the people see the Mandela in their president, who will insist on the highest professional standards of accountability, transparency and good governance.  Let the people see the Mandela in you, who will tackle corruption, establish the Procurement Commission, the Integrity Commission, the Ombudsman’s office, respect for the people and the Constitution and assent to the Bills passed by Parliament. Let us see the Mandela in the president, who will create employment for the youths, improve the pensions of seniors from $12,500 per month to $20,000, reduce VAT by two percent, give the workers a minimum pay increase of 10 per cent per year, stop the marginalization of one ethnic group, improve the lives of the poor and the working class, and stop denying those who are not members of the PPP to have free and equal access to all government services. Let us see the Mandela in you, who are not greedy, selfish, vindictive, and will distribute the state resources equally among all and not just among their friends and relatives. Finally we believe that the PPP is a hypocrite to hold any activity honoring Mr. Mandela. Dr. Asquith Rose and Harish S. Singh

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Cobra:
 

Why do you think a good gesture by the president means bullshit?


Cobra:

 

* Politics is a dirty business my friend.

 

* If Ramotar took Granger along with him---then the 2 would be perceived as equals in the eyes of Guyanese.

 

* It would have been kind and thoughtful and generous on part of Ramotar to take Granger along with him.

 

* But kindness and generosity to your opponent is not good politics.

 

* Ane lemme be blunt!

 

* People like Granger---you feed them---offer them drinks---treat them like family---and then they turn around and stab you in your face.

 

BOTTOM LINE:

 

President Ramotar made the wise political decision to leave Granger at home.

 

Rev

 

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by seignet:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Cobra:

APNU's Davis Granger said that President Ramotar didn't invite any members from the opposition to attend Nelson Mandela's memorial service in South Africa. Nelson Mandela fought for equal rights for all South Africans, and to be among a world icon would mean to show greater tolerance for racial equality that is against what Mandela stood for. Did President Ramotar make a blunder, or he didn't understand what Mandela really stood for? The Mandela memorial was an event to put partisan politics aside and show unity. President Obama said both Blacks, and Whites are oppressors of their citizens and people of the world are fighting their own for equal right and justice. President Ramotar should have invited the opposition on this trip. It was the right to do, but he failed.Don't the OPPOSITION

 

Wait, the opposition don't plan for themselves??  Or are they only known for a WELFARE kind of System. Do they really care about Mr Mandela???   What BLOODY NONESENCE I am hearing here!!!

Jagan protege. God help Guyana from IDIOTS like you.

if Jagan was around he would bitch slap the likes of Nehru for spewing such nonsense. seriously.

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Cobra:
 

Why do you think a good gesture by the president means bullshit?


Cobra:

 

* Politics is a dirty business my friend.

 

* If Ramotar took Granger along with him---then the 2 would be perceived as equals in the eyes of Guyanese.

 

* It would have been kind and thoughtful and generous on part of Ramotar to take Granger along with him.

 

* But kindness and generosity to your opponent is not good politics.

 

* Ane lemme be blunt!

 

* People like Granger---you feed them---offer them drinks---treat them like family---and then they turn around and stab you in your face.

 

BOTTOM LINE:

 

President Ramotar made the wise political decision to leave Granger at home.

 

Rev

 

I respect your opinion, but I don't agree with your logic. That's like making the PPP monster against all kindness. With that in mind, Guyana will never enjoy racial harmony and unity. Our Motto - One people, one nation, one destiny, means nothing. Only Indians destiny means something.

FM

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