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EAB aborts voters’ list test

Posted By Staff Writer On April 25, 2015 In Local News |

 

The Electoral Assistance Bureau (EAB) yesterday announced the cancellation of its planned testing of the 2015 voters’ list, saying needed information to conduct the exercise was not provided.

 

On April 7th, the EAB announced plans to test the list, while noting that given the limited time available, it would need the support of the two main contesting groups—the PPP/C and the APNU+AFC coalition—as well as the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM) to do so quickly and proficiently.

“Unfortunately, the needed information was not provided in sufficient time to permit the announced test to be completed,” the EAB said in a statement issued yesterday, while noting that each passing day reduces the quality of an exercise as complex as a voters’ list test. General elections will be held on May 11th.

 

“The missed opportunity to independently test the voters list deprives the electorate and political parties of added assurance regarding the level of integrity within this critical element of the electoral process,” it added.

As a result, the EAB advised that institutions that suspect that there are discrepancies with the list should provide their evidence to GECOM so that the appropriate actions could be taken by the Commission and concerns could be addressed.

 

“It is essential for all political parties and GECOM to remain vigilant and observe all protocols for the integrity of the elections process,” it emphasised.

 

In the face of allegations that the list is padded, the EAB said GECOM would have conducted an exercise where fingerprints are electronically cross-checked to ensure that no set of prints is on the list more than once. “GECOM can usefully disclose to the public the results of the fingerprint matching exercise for 2015,” it said.

 

The EAB also reminded that the registration process included the participation of scrutineers from the political parties, whose role was to ensure that everyone who registered was verified. It added that further vigilance is required to ensure that no one person can vote twice or the information for dead or migrated people are not used to vote in their stead.

 

It added that it is the duty of polling officials to comply with the polling regulations and for party agents to ensure that they do so. “Adherence to polling day procedures is the best defence against any attempt to abuse the voters list,” it said, while noting that the onus is on political parties to recruit and train their agents early and to the highest standards, sufficient to cover 100% of the polling stations, so that the potential for impersonation, multiple voting and other electoral crimes are minimised.

 

The EAB pointed out that all parties, GECOM and stakeholders are aware of allegations that the list appears bloated with the names of persons who have either died or migrated. GECOM, it noted, has been working to improve its methodology to easily remove persons who have died from the list but the difficulty lies with those who are no longer resident in Guyana. As a result, it recommended that GECOM and the parties in the National Assembly should commit to solving this challenge after the elections.

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3 years to prepare . . .

 

same stupid problems with party observers as in 2011

 

2300 polling stations (an obscenity with less than 1/2 million voters); 166 in people's houses (betcha there's a shitload, again, in Region 4)

 

no proper explanations or rationales provided by GECOM

 

now this . . . Surujbally frustraing every credible effort to scrutinize/verify  the bloody bloated list

 

the kind of shyte designed to facilitate fraud!

 

i'm sorry, this is bullshit! . . . big money pass

FM
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Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

The EAB didn't say which political party failed to provide information in time.

APNU+AFC had expressed support and cooperation for the EAB test.

the EAB is being diplomatic

 

ALL critical information has to come from GECOM . . . this is a statistical sampling exercise

FM
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Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

The EAB didn't say which political party failed to provide information in time.

APNU+AFC had expressed support and cooperation for the EAB test.

The data was supposed to be turned over by GECOM.  That knucklehead there refuses any input/advice/question to his process. It is absolutely statistically anomalous that we should have so high a percentage of our population as eligible voters. It points to the census being flawed or his data flawed.

 

Region 1 has almost 50 percentage increase these past three years. The same goes for  1, 8 and 9.  This data is easily testable.

FM
Originally Posted by Spontaneous emission:

The trailer for the PNC action at the end of May the 11th started to play…..a script the world is expected….  

wtf does this have to do with PNC u illiterate jackass . . . is Fr Rodrigues "PNC"?

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Spontaneous emission:

The trailer for the PNC action at the end of May the 11th started to play…..a script the world is expected….  

wtf does this have to do with PNC u illiterate jackass . . . is Fr Rodrigues "PNC"?

Shut you crap face....Now the PNC did not offer you minista wuk....

Don’t get angry and commit suicide now ….

 

FM
Originally Posted by Spontaneous emission:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Spontaneous emission:

The trailer for the PNC action at the end of May the 11th started to play…..a script the world is expected….  

wtf does this have to do with PNC u illiterate jackass . . . is Fr Rodrigues "PNC"?

Shut you crap face....Now the PNC did not offer you minista wuk....

Don’t get angry and commit suicide now ….

 

The Guy is too ILLITERATE to understand his own post.!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nehru
Originally Posted by Spontaneous emission:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Spontaneous emission:

The trailer for the PNC action at the end of May the 11th started to play…..a script the world is expected….  

wtf does this have to do with PNC u illiterate jackass . . . is Fr Rodrigues "PNC"?

Shut you crap face....Now the PNC did not offer you minista wuk....

Don’t get angry and commit suicide now ….

answer my question u dumb f**k

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

The EAB didn't say which political party failed to provide information in time.

APNU+AFC had expressed support and cooperation for the EAB test.

The data was supposed to be turned over by GECOM.  That knucklehead there refuses any input/advice/question to his process. It is absolutely statistically anomalous that we should have so high a percentage of our population as eligible voters. It points to the census being flawed or his data flawed.

 

Region 1 has almost 50 percentage increase these past three years. The same goes for  1, 8 and 9.  This data is easily testable.

 

I'm sure no one except D2 knows how de f*** to do his job except upon D2's advice and consent.

 

This bloated list is perfectly NORMAL for an Anglo Caribbean state. Trinidad has the same problem as well as other states with a significant migrant population.

 

Lemme repeat this. It is ILLEGAL to remove the name of someone from the List on the grounds that they have moved to another country. ILLEGAL!

 

As in the Guyana Constitution AND UN Conventions of which Guyana is a state party to forbid this.

 

In America, we do the same thing. Moving to France does not remove you from the voter list.

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

The EAB didn't say which political party failed to provide information in time.

APNU+AFC had expressed support and cooperation for the EAB test.

The data was supposed to be turned over by GECOM.  That knucklehead there refuses any input/advice/question to his process. It is absolutely statistically anomalous that we should have so high a percentage of our population as eligible voters. It points to the census being flawed or his data flawed.

 

Region 1 has almost 50 percentage increase these past three years. The same goes for  1, 8 and 9.  This data is easily testable.

 

I'm sure no one except D2 knows how de f*** to do his job except upon D2's advice and consent.

 

This bloated list is perfectly NORMAL for an Anglo Caribbean state. Trinidad has the same problem as well as other states with a significant migrant population.

 

Lemme repeat this. It is ILLEGAL to remove the name of someone from the List on the grounds that they have moved to another country. ILLEGAL!

 

As in the Guyana Constitution AND UN Conventions of which Guyana is a state party to forbid this.

 

In America, we do the same thing. Moving to France does not remove you from the voter list.

YUh gun mek Brite laka Tide Redux start to cuss like the Fish vendor he is.

Nehru
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

The EAB didn't say which political party failed to provide information in time.

APNU+AFC had expressed support and cooperation for the EAB test.

The data was supposed to be turned over by GECOM.  That knucklehead there refuses any input/advice/question to his process. It is absolutely statistically anomalous that we should have so high a percentage of our population as eligible voters. It points to the census being flawed or his data flawed.

 

Region 1 has almost 50 percentage increase these past three years. The same goes for  1, 8 and 9.  This data is easily testable.

 

I'm sure no one except D2 knows how de f*** to do his job except upon D2's advice and consent.

 

This bloated list is perfectly NORMAL for an Anglo Caribbean state. Trinidad has the same problem as well as other states with a significant migrant population.

 

Lemme repeat this. It is ILLEGAL to remove the name of someone from the List on the grounds that they have moved to another country. ILLEGAL!

 

As in the Guyana Constitution AND UN Conventions of which Guyana is a state party to forbid this.

 

In America, we do the same thing. Moving to France does not remove you from the voter list.

frustrating a verification of the bloated list is the problem . . . it is important to know whether it's the dead, non-resident, double registered, or other causing the problem

 

makes me freakin wonder why the cross check of fingerprints was not done at an earlier stage of this process . . . the database is actually quite small

FM
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Originally Posted by redux:

3 years to prepare . . .

 

same stupid problems with party observers as in 2011

 

2300 polling stations (an obscenity with less than 1/2 million voters); 166 in people's houses (betcha there's a shitload, again, in Region 4)

 

no proper explanations or rationales provided by GECOM

 

now this . . . Surujbally frustraing every credible effort to scrutinize/verify  the bloody bloated list

 

the kind of shyte designed to facilitate fraud!

 

i'm sorry, this is bullshit! . . . big money pass

The PPP has developed a well orchestrated plan to rig the election.  It involves bribery, buying ID cards in PNC strongholds, intimidating poor people who received house lots (for which they paid for), giving under age voters ID cards, and plans to stuff fake ballots in places where supervision by the opposition isn't effective.

 

I hope that the opposition has plans to counteract these plans. It is no point that the coalition loses by 5k votes, and then cries that this is only because the PPP rigged. We all know that they plan to rig, so it is hoped that there will be an effective plan to deal with it.

 

And this will NOT be the crude rigging of the Burnham era.  Issuing ID cards to 17 y/o and bribing opposition officials to sign inaccurate statement of polls will pass muster.  I can well imagine that people will be told to take pictures of their ballots, as evidence of how they voted. and show to PPP officials to collect their bribes.

 

IMHO opinion, unless the coalition wins at least 55% of the votes, they will lose, based upon PPP rigging plans.

FM
Originally Posted by Spontaneous emission:

The trailer for the PNC action at the end of May the 11th started to play…..a script the world is expected….  

 

Looks like the PNC is preparing for excuses to do what they do best.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 

Region 1 has almost 50 percentage increase these past three years. The same goes for  1, 8 and 9.  This data is easily testable.

Of course the opposition should have been checking this out since they planned the MONC.

 

This is why the PPP might well win, even though most Guyanese seem tired of them.  They remain smarter and hungrier than the PPP.  There are too many Moses cultists in the AFC, and I am not sure that many in APNU haven't accepted their fate as a permanent opposition.  This is why people like Urling and Africo rush to drink PPP soup.

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

The EAB didn't say which political party failed to provide information in time.

APNU+AFC had expressed support and cooperation for the EAB test.

The data was supposed to be turned over by GECOM.  That knucklehead there refuses any input/advice/question to his process. It is absolutely statistically anomalous that we should have so high a percentage of our population as eligible voters. It points to the census being flawed or his data flawed.

 

Region 1 has almost 50 percentage increase these past three years. The same goes for  1, 8 and 9.  This data is easily testable.

 

I'm sure no one except D2 knows how de f*** to do his job except upon D2's advice and consent.

 

This bloated list is perfectly NORMAL for an Anglo Caribbean state. Trinidad has the same problem as well as other states with a significant migrant population.

 

Lemme repeat this. It is ILLEGAL to remove the name of someone from the List on the grounds that they have moved to another country. ILLEGAL!

 

As in the Guyana Constitution AND UN Conventions of which Guyana is a state party to forbid this.

 

In America, we do the same thing. Moving to France does not remove you from the voter list.

 

Shaitaan

 

Looks like dem boys in the de PNC are preparing for riots by using lame excuses.

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
 

 

 

makes me freakin wonder why the cross check of fingerprints was not done at an earlier stage of this process . . . the database is actually quite small

I remember being concerned about APNU and the AFC and their degree of organization to deal with this very problem.

 

Folks like you called me "negative". 

 

Well as we get closer to the election and see more evidence of the vulnerability of the results to assorted forms of PPP manipulation, do people plan t0 mount the moral high horse if the PPP squeaks in a win, because they manufactured 20k "votes?"   We all knew the desperation of the PPP so why the shock.

 

I would have thought that Nagamootoo would have moved to ascertain the accuracy of the lists BEFORE he moved to MONC.  In any case there have been several months since parliament was prorogued, and so that should have been time enough to demand a test the list.  If GECOM wasn't up to the task then the opposition should have demanded the list and done their own checks.

 

But I already hear the wails if the PPP wins.  Short of furnishing irrefutable PROOF of rigging, the results will be certified and the observers will claim that there any irregularities were insufficient to change the results. 

 

All they can do is observe the voting process.  Just as how the PPP hides its bribes so they aren't fully obvious their attempts to rig will also be harder to detect on the day of the poll.

FM
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