the ppp put a boy to do a man job

This is complete and utter bullshit. When we look at the environmental issues (difficulties) and all the other implementation hazards and money expended to put this goadie in place.

Would it not have been more practical to purchase bandwidth from GTT to execute this project?

Yes it would have and if the government had held on to their shares in GTT that would have also again benefited the people of Guyana.

But you ****ers think you are talking to goats who were bicycle thieves therefore no one would understand terms like DWDM and Attenuation.

Well you can go **** yourselves on that, this is not rocket science you are involved in here. This is basic as basic gets.

The FACT is no proper analysis or planning was done, I bet no cost benefit analysis was done with regards to go GTT or Brazil for service and if it was done please produce the report otherwise go spontaneously put your head in your ass.

Who actually penned this, you SE?

You sound like a cerebrally-challenged and useless luknie clamoring for some attention. – A connection via Brazil gives resiliency, redundancy and high-availability of bandwidth.  GTT does not have redundancy to the extent of another network….

GTT does not have redundancy? what utter bullshit is this?

If that is the case why not GTT as the primary and Satellite for secondary? That would still have been cheaper than this shit for brains.

Who are you conning? what is GTT using for redundancy? again where is the documentation to support these vacuous claims? why is it a secret? Can't you dummies publish a simple document that explains why you are spending millions of tax payers money? or they are not entitled to that information. Is that too much for you to do ***** hole?

Knock Knock, ***** hole where did you go?

Like a true PPP Luknie ***** hole you disappeared? Stumped are we?

It seems that the Luknie inside you is creating havoc in your head and your ability to think or maybe you’re obviously challenge with some simple physics and optical network Planning stuff….I’ll try to make it simple for you….with something you can identify and understand..

Assume I’m a farmer and you’re the one Female Donkey hovering in my beloved farm and I depend on you to do all the heavy pulling. I have to take out 500 bags of paddies to the Silo. One day during the harvesting period I hammered you with too much load and you drop dead…..Now I have no other donkey to take out the paddies ….I have  a fail crop which I cannot afford….catastrophe…all the sheep and cows and goats will burn up my farm house?

Ok, Back to GTT, If GTT data center crashes do you think International satellite communication can support (4) OC 192 -40 Gig network?

When there is a fiber cut if you have redundancy such as another link the transition should be seamless....I pray God in the name of the PNC/AFC you understand

Do you know google Peer Server-A massive data center is easy access in Brazil?

You are bringing 4 40 Gig Network back from Brazil?

***** hole again do you think it would be more economically feasible to get the project up and running using GTT bandwidth as the primary and in a disaster recovery situation or a fall back mode you use satellite in a degraded scenario for connectivity?

Let me ask you something ***** hole what is your redundant connection now coming out of brazil Ramotar's ***** hole?

Google peer server ***** hole is also accessible via the America's cable that GTT is on didn't your ***** hole research show you that?

***** hole let me also understand this this same GTT cable is good enough for Suriname, Trinidad and even Brazil eventually wants access to that cable but it is not good enough for your failure and miserable ***** hole dunce PPP?

Is that what the **** you are telling us? you ****ing morons are idiots that is why Skeldon and this bullshit fiber project is a complete ****ing failure.

You thieves have no common sense. You only know how to lie and thief.

I will also add another factor to your dumb ***** hole decision making process which you idiots have not addressed.

Isn't GTT paying taxes to the GOG? aren't they creating jobs as that other anti man Gerry Gouveia likes to point out?

Why not give them the primary business instead of Brazil and later build  out the Brazil connectivity?

You see how dumb you retards are? this is exactly ****ing why all yuh thief man ignorant dumb *****s need to be sent packing.

All opinions and facts expressed here are my own personal views, and do not represent the views of any Government or company or organization. Please debate me and not the Government of Guyana….I’ll love to masala you dried chun chun- I design optical networks all my life…..all over the world…..How simpler, I can demonstrate to you that you’re unschooled-I made you a donkey but you still shitting square 90 degrees to your nose.

Most major projects experience technical glitches and budget problems no matter how good the people are who plan and execute them. We live in North America and we see in the news how money is being wasted in major projects and taxpayers are usually the people who carry the burden. Even major corporations make mistakes with projects. However, they don't sit back and spend all their time crying over it for the rest of their lives. They make corrections and keep going.

hehehehehe apparently you checked with the apparatus that instructed you to end the conversation as if you are representing the government eh?

This is typical of the low breed cowards. We know that Ramotar is a coward afraid to face the people and his son is a ***** hole just the same.

Check wid yuh master deh *****aneous emmissions and get back wid de answers ya hear?

Wha going on deh buddy? All dem *****holes yuh blast up on poor Sponty mek Clint Eastwood .38 Magnum look like wata gun.

Other than that, I'm observing the informative exchange without comment because I'm technologically challenged.

yeh same as Iman skelly, dem boys lost me at Wang an Lang.

an for de life of I, I still tryin fo figure out whatderass is a 440 with a bandwith an connectivity *****hole.. ... whatderass is dat part?

Skelly?

Make my day, Cain.

Oh sheet!! So sorry Gilly, ow man I can never make up for that, ohhhh nooo a mortal sin.

You're forgiven, brother.

I started the day telling Skelly about Abel.

Now I'm ending the day dealing with Cain.

Ha Ha!

Stop making silly excuses for these incompetent and corrupt tiefmen. These clowns hired Rummouthar's son who ain't know his head from his ass and now the project is almost 4 years late, money spent and still no cable. By the time this project is completed, the technology will be old. Same old story over and over with these PPP crooks.

Then they will tell us that they need another $20 million to correct it. Same thing with the stelling, the sugar factory, the Hydro road, etc., etc. We're tired of these tiefmen.

How many times do I have to flush to get rid of you?

Three goons romancing their failures…..

Time to school these retarded AFC/PNC goons

  'It is not uncommon for such a large fiber optic built out –WAN enterprise -to redo certain links including repairing splices and sometimes replacing an entire link of fiber after the initially installation are completed… keep in mind that there is no control of the none linear effects such as polarization and attenuation which are effects to a large degree by external environmental factors'

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Utterly Bullshit... Get the baby loins from OP  to do submarine fibre with what you describe and they will kick his ass to kingdom come.

I spent decades  with outside plant, mainly with heavy route fibre and like warrior said, when you put a boy to do man's job, your mentality is the same as  baby loins at OP.

Typical of the PPP, they are all experts with taxpayers money, until they screw up big time, with  promotion to more screw ups.       

Like Father....Like Son

Papa Duck F*uck up

Guysuco & De Sugar Industry....

US $250 Million

Baby Duck F*uck up

De e-governance Project

US $50 Million

Govt now considering alternative bandwith for e-governance project....

http://www.kaieteurnewsonline....-governance-project/

The opposition ran Guyana worst than a cake shop. Under their rule we were the last country on mother earth to get television. Today, they are behaving as if they are seasoned experts on economic development and building of infra-structures. Look at how they are lecturing Guyana about internet access from Brazil when they could not even get telephone service for the University of Guyana. 

Run these bastards!!  They have a horrible track record. Under their rule Freddie Kissoon was begging Vincent Teekah for teaching wuk and the minista could not help him. Yes, a senior Burnham minister like Teekah could not help poor Freddie get lil teaching wok. If TK was around in those days he would have to get the PNC blue card, clean drains at Sophia and at Burnham's backyard at Belfield to get a hamper and perhaps lil teaching wuk.

Shame on these fakes and bold liars who are out to bash the gov't over every little thing. We know the gov't has goofed on some projects. We must criticize fairly and squarely. We must be aware of those who want political power to do greater damage to this country. 

TV was kep out of Guyana for a long time because the cinema owners, who were mainly PPP members, were afraid that television would reduce their income if more and more people watched Tv instead of going to the cinema. So the PPP asked the PNC not to rush into introducing TV to Guyana.

Shame on the opposition scumbags.

I remember the days when I had to travel from Corentyne to New Amsterdam to make an overseas phone call.

What a rotten bunch in the opposition !

Unschooled gold teeth baboo you mean when you were living in Guyana you didn't have a phone? no?

No one else in Berbice didn't have phones? How come we used to mek calls from Georgetown to Skeldon all the time?

This is the best propaganda you can come up with? you are such a fraud its not funny. But this is the kind of propaganda that sells to the unschooled mind.

***** hole cutting and pasting a ****ing line rate table is not going to cut it. I notice someone tek an SFP and tickle yuh BT yesterday when they realized you were in over your dunce thiefman head.

Stick to what the PPP paying you to do, write ***** daily. Discussing networking infrastructure and Telecoms strategy / Business is way way above your ****ing pay grade, ok?

Now ***** hole go and get your goons in OP especially that fraud from my alma mater to come and explain why GTT was not an option for primary path ok ***** hole? go and come again.

Uncle Gilly here is the problem with these retards. They feel that these things they are discussing regarding Telecom Infrastructure and the Business case for said infrastructure is above the understanding of the average Guyanese and in that regard they are partially right.

They fail to recognize one thing however, in the diaspora there are a ton of Guyanese with deep expertise in these specific areas. So when they are dropping technical jargon like DWDM and SONET etc. to the average Guyanese that is non technical in this specific regard they are completely lost.

For Yours truly however this is a different piece of meat which these ***** holes have a very limited expertise on and they would have to come really good to explain this tragedy and justify it.

Unschooled Gold teeth baboo and Shelly you fellas ignore this conversation. I am unemployed lets keep it that way. I prefer you to remain in that stupor.

It is clear that when I challenged *****eous emmissions he went looking for help and was told to come back and tell us he does not speak for the government of GY, because he realize he just ran into a friggin jumbie lash.

Why the government would choose to not leverage GTT as their primary provider for bandwidth is hideous. This is a completely fine strategy to build the network using GTT as a primary provider and later on as they continue to build capacity they could later on look at adding Brazil as a redundant path. In the interim they could do what GTT does and that use Satellite as a backup. If they did this in phases they would be able to get some quick wins and deliver service to their customers. But there are other sinister reasons why they are not using GTT. I can expound on that at a later date.

Look this is a country that doesn't have backup pumps and generators to support basic water and drainage infrastructure. They do not have an all weather road to Brazil but they are talking  about redundancy and 160 G (4 40 Gig circuits)  path to Brazil? WTF? 

But if you had all the money in the world to thief and there was no accountability of course this is the path to take.

What they are not telling us and they are not forth coming with is what are they building all this capacity to support, because that would then expose their teefin.......

You notice they have no whitepapers or documentation to share with Guyanese on what it is exactly they are building, nor are there any papers for public review on the analysis behind their decision making etc? There is no transparency with this project or any other in GY. 

But this rolls up perfectly for folks like Unschooled gold teeth baboo and the rest of the illiterate cheer leading squad.

Cain, you kill Abel? Wha de rass?

me see the police shoot u family on the east coast 

Not only that, Cain also took Abel's wife.

This is how the AFC/PNC –Kata harr newspaper issue their propaganda. Then again I can argue these unschooled goons are so dense light from a fiber optic strand will have 100% reflective back scattering ---this is my exact statement below..  

“”It seems that the Luknie inside you is creating havoc in your head and your ability to think or maybe you’re obviously challenge with some simple physics and optical network Planning stuff….I’ll try to make it simple for you….with something you can identify and understand..

Assume I’m a farmer and you’re the one Female Donkey hovering in my beloved farm and I depend on you to do all the heavy pulling. I have to take out 500 bags of paddies to the Silo. One day during the harvesting period I hammered you with too much load and you drop dead…..Now I have no other donkey to take out the paddies ….I have a fail crop which I cannot afford….catastrophe…all the sheep and cows and goats will burn up my farm house?

Ok, Back to GTT, If GTT data center crashes do you think International satellite communication can support (4) OC 192 -40 Gig network?

When there is a fiber cut if you have redundancy such as another link the transition should be seamless....I pray God in the name of the PNC/AFC you understand

”””

 1 OC 192 ≤ 10Gig

Then 4 OC 192≤ 4×10=40Gig

4 OC 192 is equal to 40 Gig

How difficult is that....

This is how the AFC/PNC –Kata harr newspaper issue their propaganda. Then again I can argue these unschooled goons are so dense light from a fiber optic strand will have 100% back scattering on their cun cun.

You are a ***** hole. Guyana has black out every ****ing day what redundancy do you have in place for that?

What redundancy do you have in place for the pumps that power Guyana Water Inc?

Do you have redundant power at ****ing GPL on main street you dumb *****?

All yuh dumbos cannot get the basics right but you hollering about OC 192 and 40 Gig this and 40 Gig that. How about getting the ****ing basics right for a change?

http://gtmosquito.com/mozzy-ne...11-election-results/

That is all Guyanese want. We want you to get the basics right and stop thiefin tax payers money blatantly. Stop it ***** right now!

Here is article with some very useful information on internet connection. I think the audience and debaters will be enlightened somewhat.  I am not an expert on this subject matter. Hope it helps.

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In today’s increasingly wireless world, many forget the massive physical infrastructure used to connect everyone to the Internet. Satellites are used for broadcasting, but most of the world’s information is carried over tiny fiber-optic cables buried in the sea bed that span entire oceans.

TeleGeography, a telecommunications market research firm with offices in San Diego,Washington, D.C., the U.K. and Singapore, catalogued all 263 of these cables (and 22 more that are coming soon) and visualized them on its annual Submarine Cable Map. Like an international version of New York City’s subway map, the Submarine Cable Map provides a unique look at how the world is connected in the information age.

The Submarine Cable Map visualizes the vast network of underwater cables that connect the globe.            TeleGeography      

 

TeleGeography’s research director, Alan Mauldin, told CNN that 99 percent of international communications run on these underwater cables.

The advantage to using cables to deliver information is that it is much less expensive than using satellites, so much larger amounts of information can be carried. Although satellites can reach remote parts of the world and projects like the Outernet and Google’s Project Loon aim to use airborne devices to beam wireless Internet to mobile devices, countries around the world are investing more in building new fiber-optic cables.

“In the past year, many cables were being built to the east coast of Africa, where it was all satellite,” Mauldin said. “We're seeing cables to remote islands like Tonga and Vanuatu, bringing extremely small conurbations into the fiber network around the world.”

The developed world is also continually building new cables to back up the existing ones, which constantly face the dangers both natural (earthquakes, landslides, hurricanes, etc.) and manmade (dropped anchors). The 2011 tsunami destroyed many of Japan’s cables, but the country was able to stay online thanks to a healthy network of backups.

Diagram shows what an underwater fiber-optic cable is made of.            TeleGeography      

 

When large, international telecommunications companies like AT&T and Level 3 began laying cables in the early 2000s, they were very expensive. Jon Hjembo, a senior analyst at TeleGeography, explained to the International Business Times that one of the early cables that crossed entire Atlantic ocean cost more than $2 billion, though most today are in hundreds-of-millions range. 

"Length adds to the cost, and complication of the system," Hjembo said. "Point-to-point is more cost effective than [lines] that branch to multiple landing stations in different countries." 

Some of the short, regional cables -- like ones running between the countries of Georgia and Russia, Kuwait and Iran, or Syria and Cyprus -- can be $10 million or less, though Hjembo noted that when one looks at cost-per-kilometer, these cables can actually be more expensive than the longer ones. A recent cable under the Mediterranean cost about $90,000 per kilometer, while a new $560 million trans-pacific cable connecting the U.S. and Asia only ran about $28,000 per kilometer. 

TeleGeography also released an interactive version of the map that lets users select individual cables to view its name, length, owners and landing points, when it came online and even the cable’s website.