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comrade posted:

Jagdeo 's honorary degrees are from India and Russia and are not academic degrees which does not warrant one to be addressed as " doctor ". This is an attempt on the part of Jagdeo and his stooges to stroke his ego.

Bob Hope received over 250 honorary degrees in his life time but was never referred to as " Dr. Hope ".

Because he was Hopeless.

K
seignet posted:

he is abhe dacta. alyuh get ayuh own wan nah. is we indo thing. we honah abhe leaders. doan eat ur hearts out. yuh can bash us all yuh want, we still respect dr. jagdeo. i guess juss anadah thing to put us down. we will survive ahyuh racist attitude.

Maybe they can  worship Dr Bill Cosby, the accused Rapist.

K
seignet posted:

he is abhe dacta. alyuh get ayuh own wan nah. is we indo thing. we honah abhe leaders. doan eat ur hearts out. yuh can bash us all yuh want, we still respect dr. jagdeo. i guess juss anadah thing to put us down. we will survive ahyuh racist attitude.

who are u ?

who die and mek an ignorant ignar, blaspheming soi-disant "Christian" like u spokesperson for "abhe" Guyana Indian collective?

carry yuh ole bigot rass dahside and hustle to your church of the devil and ask forgiveness of your Nigerian obeahman 'pastor' . . . do it now

FM
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This is what the PhD in economics entails (American PhD).

  1. Sixty credit of course work (20 courses)...usually takes about 2.5 years to complete.
  2. Upon completing those 20 courses one would have completed a level of maths proficiency equivalent to at least a bachelor’s (or like a master’s) in mathematics.
  3. Write two comprehensive 4 hour exams – one in core theory: microeconomics, macroeconomics and econometrics and the second in two subjects of specialization.
  4. Present an oral defense of original dissertation proposal in front of committee. We are now in year three.
  5. Write/research dissertation. The topic must be original and must make a contribution to literature. Quality must be at the level of getting two to three peer-reviewed publications.
  6. Defend the dissertation in front of committee. Success here means one gets the degree. We are now in year 5.

The purpose of a PhD is not to seek status or to get Dr in front of one’s name. It is meant for pursuing a research career. If one is not interested in research do not complete this degree as it is very intense and difficult. If one is good the status will automatically follow. The requirements above also hold for physics, chemistry, biology, mathematics, etc, with some variation.

FM
TK posted:

This is what the PhD in economics entails (American PhD).

  1. Sixty credit of course work (20 courses)...usually takes about 2.5 years to complete.
  2. Upon completing those 20 courses one would have completed a level of maths proficiency equivalent to at least a bachelor’s (or like a master’s) in mathematics.
  3. Write two comprehensive 4 hour exams – one in core theory: microeconomics, macroeconomics and econometrics and the second in two subjects of specialization.
  4. Present an oral defense of original dissertation proposal in front of committee. We are now in year three.
  5. Write/research dissertation. The topic must be original and must make a contribution to literature. Quality must be at the level of getting two to three peer-reviewed publications.
  6. Defend the dissertation in front of committee. Success here means one gets the degree. We are now in year 5.

The purpose of a PhD is not to seek status or to get Dr in front of one’s name. It is meant for pursuing a research career. If one is not interested in research do not complete this degree as it is very intense and difficult. If one is good the status will automatically follow. The requirements above also hold for physics, chemistry, biology, mathematics, etc, with some variation.

A PhD is not only for research. You need a PhD for tenure as a professor.

A
antabanta posted:
TK posted:

This is what the PhD in economics entails (American PhD).

  1. Sixty credit of course work (20 courses)...usually takes about 2.5 years to complete.
  2. Upon completing those 20 courses one would have completed a level of maths proficiency equivalent to at least a bachelor’s (or like a master’s) in mathematics.
  3. Write two comprehensive 4 hour exams – one in core theory: microeconomics, macroeconomics and econometrics and the second in two subjects of specialization.
  4. Present an oral defense of original dissertation proposal in front of committee. We are now in year three.
  5. Write/research dissertation. The topic must be original and must make a contribution to literature. Quality must be at the level of getting two to three peer-reviewed publications.
  6. Defend the dissertation in front of committee. Success here means one gets the degree. We are now in year 5.

The purpose of a PhD is not to seek status or to get Dr in front of one’s name. It is meant for pursuing a research career. If one is not interested in research do not complete this degree as it is very intense and difficult. If one is good the status will automatically follow. The requirements above also hold for physics, chemistry, biology, mathematics, etc, with some variation.

A PhD is not only for research. You need a PhD for tenure as a professor.

Dem bannas gat to do research before tenure too.

FM
baseman posted:
TK posted:

This is what the PhD in economics entails (American PhD).

  1. Sixty credit of course work (20 courses)...usually takes about 2.5 years to complete.
  2. Upon completing those 20 courses one would have completed a level of maths proficiency equivalent to at least a bachelor’s (or like a master’s) in mathematics.
  3. Write two comprehensive 4 hour exams – one in core theory: microeconomics, macroeconomics and econometrics and the second in two subjects of specialization.
  4. Present an oral defense of original dissertation proposal in front of committee. We are now in year three.
  5. Write/research dissertation. The topic must be original and must make a contribution to literature. Quality must be at the level of getting two to three peer-reviewed publications.
  6. Defend the dissertation in front of committee. Success here means one gets the degree. We are now in year 5.

The purpose of a PhD is not to seek status or to get Dr in front of one’s name. It is meant for pursuing a research career. If one is not interested in research do not complete this degree as it is very intense and difficult. If one is good the status will automatically follow. The requirements above also hold for physics, chemistry, biology, mathematics, etc, with some variation.

In Switzerland and Europe I worked with umteem Dr, none medical just the title bestowed after attaining certain qualification.  They are referred to and introduced as Doctor.  It's just a cultural thing!!

Duh! That happens right here in America. Once you earn a PhD, you are referred to as Doctor. Honorary doctorates are not given that privilege. 

Mars
Mars posted:
ian posted:
Mars posted:

You have to excuse the nevuh see come fuh see crew from Hubu Backdam. No one runs around calling Bill Clinton Dr. Clinton.  

The crew from Hubu Backdam you referring to is your siblings... right 

Leave my siblings out of your discussions. I'm referring to the morons like you.

It seems someone did something bad to you in Hubu Backdam, it leaves a bad tastes in your mouth. 

FM
ian posted:
Mars posted:
ian posted:
Mars posted:

You have to excuse the nevuh see come fuh see crew from Hubu Backdam. No one runs around calling Bill Clinton Dr. Clinton.  

The crew from Hubu Backdam you referring to is your siblings... right 

Leave my siblings out of your discussions. I'm referring to the morons like you.

It seems someone did something bad to you in Hubu Backdam, it leaves a bad tastes in your mouth. 

English please. I never saw the place. 

Mars

OW Uncle MOSES.

 

https://guyaneseonline.wordpre...by-moses-nagamootoo/

 

Time for a radical shift in the sugar belt – By Moses Nagamootoo

Time for a radical shift in the sugar belt

JANUARY 26, 2014 |  By Moses Nagamootoo – AFC Vice-Chairman and Member of Parliament

 The shadows of doom seem to be hanging over the sugar industry. Besides continuing mismanagement and political interference, there is the ominous warning from eminent scholar, Dr. Clive Thomas, that the sugar industry has reached a point of no return, “or alternatively, a negative tipping-point”.

For the 16,000 sugar workers and an estimated 50,000 persons whose lives depend of the industry, this raises the spectre of “bitter sugar” that historically was the root cause for oppression and despair of slaves and bonded workers on the colonial plantations in Guyana.  

It is ironic that the PPP, which owes its origin to the sacrifice of sugar workers, who also formed its electoral backbone, has now become the handmaiden of the industry’s feared destruction.

Should the worst happen, which would be a national tragedy, sugar workers must make the post-Jagan pseudo-PPP pay the ultimate price for this betrayal. If the Jagdeo-Ramotar cabal did not heed my exhortation in 2010 to “light a candle for sugar workers” when GAWU was threatened with de-recognition, they would now do so literally on their knees.

Ramotar cannot run from the sugar industry. He sat on the Board of GuySuCo for several unbroken years before he was elevated to a political advisor of then President Jagdeo, who in turn catapulted him to the presidency after a flawed selection process by the Stalinist gang in the PPP leadership.

Nanda Gopaul was GuySuCo’s Board Chairman, but was rewarded for the industry’s failure with a ministerial portfolio, that of Minister of Labour. Nothing could be more anti-labour than the progressive decline of the sugar industry under his watch. Then a New Jersey-resident chairman was periodically flown in on an apparent rescue mission, which turned into Mission Impossible!

On his part, Ramotar as President, admitted on June 16, 2013, that the sugar industry was in crisis mode. In fact, he recognized that the industry was in a coma. Stabroek News quoted him as saying at an event to remember the 1948 Enmore Martyrs, that the industry needed “resuscitation”.

Finance Minister Singh disclosed that there was a 2013-16 “Turnaround Plan”. It was never laid in Parliament, but Agriculture Minister Ramsammy swore that he had seen aspects of it in the House. All of those antics reminded us of how Nero “fiddled while Rome burned”.
Then a brilliant idea struck Ramotar, that if sugar workers were given lands in cooperatives, they could grow canes, as only they know how best to do, which could help solve the low production problem.

But, under his very nose, sugar lands were handed out to the elite for construction, mostly of high-priced Miami-type mansions. Lands originally given to sugar workers’ co-ops in places like Port Mourant and Belle Vue, have been seized from legitimate members and their heirs.
In the post-Jagan period, it was diagnosed that the sugar industry was ill. Jagdeo, not then a quintuple doctor, had promised a cure: a modern sugar factory at Skeldon. Without the Skeldon factory, he had pronounced, “sugar is dead”.

That was in 1999 or thereabout when Navin Chandarpal was the Minister of Agriculture. Instead of putting the Minister in control of negotiation for the modernization of the industry, Jagdeo essentially hijacked the project, and placed his preferred choice in charge. Navin protested that eye-pass. He resigned.

King Jagdeo then negotiated a US$200 million loan (G$40 billion) for the factory, but 10 years later he complained that the factory was not working to capacity. In short, the $40 billion was going down the drain. Jagdeo’s brainchild was deformed from birth, and was not responding to an additional $4 billion in post-natal surgeries.

He is reported in SN on October 2, 2010 as saying that “This is a US$200 million facilityâ€Ķ unfortunately, it’s not delivering the results we expected it to”.
“They have too many mistakes going on there and I intend to fix itâ€Ķit has to changeâ€Ķ”If that doesn’t work well, because the European Union cut our sugar prices by 36 percentâ€Ķ if that doesn’t work well the sugar industry is dead,” he stressed. “It’s dead. It’s as simple as that.”
The pseudo-PPP knew how important Berbice was to their electoral fortunes. That’s why Jagdeo was to say: “If sugar is not growing in this Corentyne, this place would be a ghost townâ€Ķ”

Knowing all of that, our government was expected to come up with a rescue plan. But what we got was platitudes and false hopes instead of authentic leadership on the issue. In 2010, CEO Paul Bhim said that sugar was facing a heavy production deficit which slumped to “some low levels”, but promised that things would “pick up soon”.

Ashni Singh promised bumper crops that would have, by now far exceeded 500,000 tonnes and that by mid-2012 the Skeldon factory would be in full production swing. But, production dropped from 325,317 tonnes of sugar in 2004 to 218,070 in 2012.

For 2013 production was just over 186,000 tonnes from a target of 260,000 tonnes. We were worried about loss of the European quota, but could not produce enough sugar to meet that quota. Some years ago when, under the PNC government, Guyana imported sugar for domestic use from Guatemala, there was a big hue and a cry, but like a dog chasing its tail, the pseudo-PPP has landed us in a similar situation. It is not only that we can’t meet our export demands, but we are also unable to put the Enmore Packaging Plant to the use for which billions have been spent.

We are in even bigger trouble. Parliament has already given the industry massive bailouts, and soon government would come cap in hand, for an estimated $11 billion cash handout from taxpayers’ money. We have only the mis-managers of the PPP to blame for the industry becoming a millstone around the neck of the nation.

At the time Jagdeo had said that without Skeldon sugar was dead, I recall Dr, Clive Thomas saying (2010) that the “political moment” was moving in favour of fundamental change. He saw a growing rise in the consciousness of several sections of the people, including even supporters of the PPP/C that you could not continue to rule in the old way.

The situation facing the sugar industry has proven him right. The failure of the pseudo-PPP to manage this industry could lead to massive social dislocation in the sugar belt.
The AFC believes that the “moment” is here for radical shift in how sugar workers think, and they would now need no more proof that they have been betrayed.

FM
Mars posted:
ian posted:
Mars posted:
ian posted:
Mars posted:

You have to excuse the nevuh see come fuh see crew from Hubu Backdam. No one runs around calling Bill Clinton Dr. Clinton.  

The crew from Hubu Backdam you referring to is your siblings... right 

Leave my siblings out of your discussions. I'm referring to the morons like you.

It seems someone did something bad to you in Hubu Backdam, it leaves a bad tastes in your mouth. 

English please. I never saw the place. 

Dummy, if you done understand English, then you lost your senses in space. 

FM
Brian Teekah posted:

Clive Thomas is a washed our socialist economist.  Have no clue on how to run a business in the modern world.

says who, u?. . .  a non entity's non entity

b/t/w how dat Patrice Lumumba grad alyuh bowing down to doin?. . . u know, the one who likely didn't even read Samuelson's basic Econ text until he start working for Hoyte

oh wait, dat dactah learned all he needed to know about "capitalism" watching the Yeltsin-era boys at work raping post-socialist Russia

uh huh

FM
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Tell Moses to stop believing in those old dinosaurs like Clive Thomas and start to read the Wall Street Journal. These politicians need to learn economics and international finance.

What an ignoramus....reading the wall street journal is your pathway to great financial acumen!

And how do you know the good doctor does not read the journal?

FM
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TK posted:

This is what the PhD in economics entails (American PhD).

  1. Sixty credit of course work (20 courses)...usually takes about 2.5 years to complete.
  2. Upon completing those 20 courses one would have completed a level of maths proficiency equivalent to at least a bachelor’s (or like a master’s) in mathematics.
  3. Write two comprehensive 4 hour exams – one in core theory: microeconomics, macroeconomics and econometrics and the second in two subjects of specialization.
  4. Present an oral defense of original dissertation proposal in front of committee. We are now in year three.
  5. Write/research dissertation. The topic must be original and must make a contribution to literature. Quality must be at the level of getting two to three peer-reviewed publications.
  6. Defend the dissertation in front of committee. Success here means one gets the degree. We are now in year 5.

The purpose of a PhD is not to seek status or to get Dr in front of one’s name. It is meant for pursuing a research career. If one is not interested in research do not complete this degree as it is very intense and difficult. If one is good the status will automatically follow. The requirements above also hold for physics, chemistry, biology, mathematics, etc, with some variation.

All's well what you say here, TK, but it does not invalidate Dr Jagdeo's honorary doctorates. We have to think outside the box, TK. You mention physics, chemistry and mathematics but not a word about the one unconventional subject Jagdeo researched extensively and applied conscientiously, ie, Public Management Crookery. So outstanding a crookery practitioner was he in both macro and micro dimensions that international bodies in Russia and India bestowed well-deserved doctorates on him. Let Dr Jagdeo relish his accolades in peace, eh. Don't be like a bundarie crab trying to pull our champion down to the bottom of the barrel, eh.

FM
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yuji22 posted:
Brian Teekah posted:

"The AFC believes that the “moment” is here for radical shift in how sugar workers think, and they would now need no more proof that they have been betrayed."

 

 

Who betray the Wales Estate Sugar workers today?

Now you talking. Bring it on !

I thought you knew,i will refresh your memory it is GAWU and the PPP who betrayed the sugar workers.

Django
Brian Teekah posted:

Why are we so infatuated with the DEAD.  Let us deal with the Living.  What is Moses and Ramjatan doing for the rice and sugar and agriculture sector.  They said in 2014 that they will helped these sectors.

Moses is not hindu, but he likes the Indian hindu mala around his neck. He smiles from ear to ear when someone puts a mala around his neck. You can see his (wapyah)scurvy like a flood light from a far distance. Maybe he is the answer to Guyana's electricity problem..

FM
skeldon_man posted:
Brian Teekah posted:

Why are we so infatuated with the DEAD.  Let us deal with the Living.  What is Moses and Ramjatan doing for the rice and sugar and agriculture sector.  They said in 2014 that they will helped these sectors.

Moses is not hindu, but he likes the Indian hindu mala around his neck. He smiles from ear to ear when someone puts a mala around his neck. You can see his (wapyah)scurvy like a flood light from a far distance. Maybe he is the answer to Guyana's electricity problem..

Oii skelly,wha you deh pun the mala is only a Hindu tingee.

Django
Stormborn posted:
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Tell Moses to stop believing in those old dinosaurs like Clive Thomas and start to read the Wall Street Journal. These politicians need to learn economics and international finance.

What an ignoramus....reading the wall street journal is your pathway to great financial acumen!

And how do you know the good doctor does not read the journal?

The good doctor is academic fool like you.

Billy Ram Balgobin

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