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Gas-to-shore pipeline can be paid for in 5 years – VP

…industrial manufacturing from gas positive externality

, Source - https://www.inewsguyana.com/ga...d-for-in-5-years-vp/

The gas-to-shore pipeline being pursued by the People’s Progressive Party (PPP) Government and which it is estimated will cost some US$900 million to build, can be fully paid off or amortised within five years.

This view was expressed by Vice President Bharrat Jagdeo, during a recent presentation with senior representatives of various media houses. He noted that given the millions that will be saved in energy cost per year when the gas-to-shore pipeline is functional, the project can be paid for within five years.

“There is an agreement between the parties, that this suits the country best. Because if we can save $150 million a year and that’s the outer limit, in five years we can pay back for this pipeline,” he explained.

“Because I think it’s the outer limit, it’s inflated when you go to tender. In five years from savings alone we can amortise the whole investment,” Jagdeo further explained to the media houses that were gathered.

Before the PPP entered office, a number of studies on the gas-to-shore project had been done under the former A Partnership for National Unity/Alliance For Change (APNU/AFC) Government.

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These studies include the Gas to Power Feasibility Assessment in Guyana by K&M Advisors, an Oil and Gas Master plan by Japan Cooperation Centre Petroleum Chiyoda Corporation, a Study on System Expansion of the Generation System by Brugman SAS and a Desk Study of the Options, Cost, Economics, Impacts, and Key Considerations of Transporting and Utilizing Natural Gas from Offshore Guyana for the Generation of Electricity (2017) by Energy Narrative.

Now, however, the Government is in the process of conducting several studies including geophysical, geotechnical, lidar and environmental impact studies. According to the Vice President, these studies should be completed by next year.

“For the project to happen, to even start designing the things you will bid on, you have to do additional studies. That is the studies being done now, which will be completed next year. It’s only when those studies are done then we can design the pipeline, the power plant and stuff like that and then go out to tender. It’s not like we’re going out to tender next week,” he said.

The gas-to-shore project is a game-changing initiative that will see gas from the Liza Field offshore Guyana being pumped onshore to generate power. The main objective of the initiative is to transport sufficient gas from the Stabroek Block’s petroleum operations to supply some 200-250 megawatts of energy to the national grid, leading to a significant reduction in electricity costs.

President Dr Irfaan Ali had previously said the gas-to-shore pipeline, which will land at Crane on the West Coast of Demerara (WCD), would lead to “big industrial development taking place there that is linked to not only power generation and a power plant.” He also said the investment on the Demerara River’s shoreside would create massive opportunities and a trickle-down effect.

Soon after the Government issued permit licences to Exxon for the Payara Development Project last year, Jagdeo had announced that the Government would turn its attention to negotiating the gas-to-energy project.

A number of factors including geotechnical, geophysical and environmental were examined before Vice President Jagdeo announced recently that the Government had settled on Wales to land the pipelines for the project.

Meanwhile, Prime Minister Mark Phillips, who has responsibility for the energy sector, has previously said that the Government is looking to produce 200 megawatts of power from the gas-to-shore project by 2024.

Exxon has said that around 30 to 35 million cubic feet of natural gas would be required for the gas-to-shore project. Recently-released data from Norwegian research company Rystad Energy had indicated that less than 20 per cent of the 1.8 billion Barrels of Oil Equivalent (BOE) discovered last year was gas.

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@Former Member posted:

Banna...I say a dankey flying yesterday.

Eh-eh Kapadulla Wood --

Is that dee same dankey that ran away from a certain person and left him  to push dee dankey cart in New York.

FM

The gas-to-shore pipeline being pursued by the People’s Progressive Party (PPP) Government and which it is estimated will cost some US$900 million to build, can be fully paid off or amortised within five years.



What's the cost for the Power Plants ? What will happen when there is no gas ? it was mentioned the supply is 11 yrs . Guyana oil extraction is around 20 yrs.

Django
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@Django posted:

The gas-to-shore pipeline being pursued by the People’s Progressive Party (PPP) Government and which it is estimated will cost some US$900 million to build, can be fully paid off or amortised within five years.

What's the cost for the Power Plants ?

What will happen when there is no gas ?

it was mentioned the supply is 11 yrs . Guyana oil extraction is around 20 yrs.

When situations occur, there are ways to convert said operations.

These projects are operated in Canada, USA, Europe, etc., etc., etc..

FM
@Former Member posted:

When situations occur, there are ways to convert said operations.

These projects are operated in Canada, USA, Europe, etc., etc., etc..

What plans are there to convert the Gas Plant ,when gas runs out ?

Django
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@Django posted:

What plans are there to convert the Gas Plant ,when gas runs out ?

When the relevant studies are completed and the project implemented, those plans will eventually be determined at the apt time.

FM
@Former Member posted:

When the relevant studies are completed and the project implemented, those plans will eventually be determined at the apt time.

That's like searching for a needle in a hay stack.

Django
@Django posted:

That's like searching for a needle in a hay stack.

Not searching for a needle in a hay stack.

Usual process for implementing and decommissioning projects ...

- prefeasibility studies

- feasibility studies

- adoption of plans

. construction/implementation of the project

- operation and monitoring.

- plans to convert or remove a project.

FM
@Former Member posted:

Not searching for a needle in a hay stack.

Usual process for implementing and decommissioning projects ...

- prefeasibility studies

- feasibility studies

- adoption of plans

. construction/implementation of the project

- operation and monitoring.

- plans to convert or remove a project.

My question is what plans are there to convert the Gas Plant ,breaking it down ,converting to what ? removing is understandable . The cost for the project and life is burdensome for the Guyanese people.

Django
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@Django posted:

My question is what plans are there to convert the Gas Plant ,breaking it down converting to what ? removing is understandable .

The cost for the project and life is burdensome for the Guyanese people.

Will be addressed at a later time, if the project is implemented.

FM
@Former Member posted:

Not searching for a needle in a hay stack.

Usual process for implementing and decommissioning projects ...

- prefeasibility studies

- feasibility studies

- adoption of plans

. construction/implementation of the project

- operation and monitoring.

- plans to convert or remove a project.

Shouldn't all of this be considered NOW? That's a lot of taxpayers' money to be spent!

FM

The Gas to shore project will be completed in a timely manner. If they pay for it in 5 years or not, it still will be done. 

The cost of doing this project is insignificant because it will pay for itself. It will not cost taxpayers a penny. This project will give Guyana a better standard of living.   

R
@Former Member posted:

Shouldn't all of this be considered NOW? That's a lot of taxpayers' money to be spent!

Shally Bro, Tax payers? Guyana has only a few. The masses doan really care what Jaggy does. Including the PNC. Dey only love to oppose.

S
@Django posted:

My question is what plans are there to convert the Gas Plant ,breaking it down ,converting to what ? removing is understandable . The cost for the project and life is burdensome for the Guyanese people.

In other words, you are saying that the PPP shouldn't go ahead with this project. The project pays for itself and it's not burdensome for the Guyanese people. 

If the Coalition was to become the Government they will cancel every project the PPP initiated and hence bankrupt the country again.

R
@Former Member posted:

Not searching for a needle in a hay stack.

Usual process for implementing and decommissioning projects ...

- prefeasibility studies

- feasibility studies

- adoption of plans

. construction/implementation of the project

- operation and monitoring.

- plans to convert or remove a project.

@Former Member posted:

Shouldn't all of this be considered NOW?

That's a lot of taxpayers' money to be spent!

The initial stages is the usual process to eventually undertake or not-to-undertake.

Once a decision is made to proceed, then the focused processes will be undertaken in stages.

Money is always spent whether a project is undertaken or a decision is made not to proceed.

FM

Govt. now scrambles to secure experts for gas-to-shore taskforce

May 03, 2021 News, Source - https://www.kaieteurnewsonline...-to-shore-taskforce/

Kaieteur News – One week after Vice President Dr. Bharrat Jagdeo, lamented that the advertisements were already three weeks late, the Ministry of Natural Resources has commenced the process of looking to employ at least four specialists, as part of its gas-to-shore working group.

The personnel currently being sought by the Ministry include a Gas Power/Commercial Negotiator and a Critical Structure Value Engineer.

Additionally, the Ministry has advertised for the provision of consulting services, in the area of Procurement Process Review, namely Oilfield Services and Equipment. The Ministry is also looking to secure consultancies for the provision of Petroleum Data Management.

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Vice President, Dr. Bharrat Jagdeo

The identified positions were referenced during a gas-to-shore briefing that was led by Vice President Jagdeo this past week, as he was asked by Kaieteur News to speak on the cadre of experts already retained for the project, given that there is no Guyanese domestically with the requisite skill set. Guyana has never had a gas producing industry and has only been producing crude in the Stabroek Block for just over the year.

During the briefing led by Dr. Jagdeo, he had lamented that the advertisements, which he displayed copies of at the time, should have already been in the public domain, three weeks prior. He was assured at the time by Petroleum Coordinator at the Ministry, Bobby Gossai, that it would be done before the end of the week.

The advertisements have since been made public with the Ministry noting that the move is aimed at enhancing and improving the efficiency in the petroleum sector in Guyana.

The Vice President during the gas-to-shore briefing was asked directly to identify the experts providing guidance on protecting the interests of the State.

He said, at the time, the government will publish a few advertisements in the coming days which would look to fill certain key positions. The advertised position of Value Engineer would be responsible for ensuring Guyana is getting value for money on all expenditure by ExxonMobil.

The Vice President said at the time that a Legal and Commercial Consultant is being sought to monetise and conclude all of the contracts associated with the gas project, including one for the price to be paid to ExxonMobil for transporting the gas via the pipeline. This consultant would also be responsible for commercialising other aspects of the byproducts derived from the gas project.

A Procurement Process Reviewer, also on the list of positions advertised would be responsible for ensuring contracts being awarded in the oil sector are not tailored to keep locals from having a fair shot.

Another key person being sought is for Petroleum Data Management for Transparency. The holder of this post would be responsible for ensuring the government has its own repository of credible data needed to hold ExxonMobil accountable. That Consultant would also be required to improve the relationship between the Ministry of Natural Resources and the public.

FM
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@Ramakant-P posted:

In other words, you are saying that the PPP shouldn't go ahead with this project. The project pays for itself and it's not burdensome for the Guyanese people.

If the Coalition was to become the Government they will cancel every project the PPP initiated and hence bankrupt the country again.

Are you out of your mind ? pays for it self at what cost ?

Was the gas to shore project was initiated by the PPP ? all Jagdeo have to show are two graph schemes ,Berbice Bridge ,Marriot Hotel ,no one knows the investors and the white elephant Skeldon Sugar Factory at the cost of US$200M.

Crawl out of the age-old cocoon ,the country wasn't bankrupted under the last government .

Django
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The new Government, however, will soon find out that Guyana as a country is, as is used in Guyanese colloquial parlance, “broke”. Not only has the country’s general reserves been depleted to $0, but the account is also now running an overdraft to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars.

This situation is illustrated in the Bank of Guyana’s statement of Assets and Liabilities, published in the May 23 Official Gazette, revealing that the General Reserve is -$290,667,332. Additionally, Public Deposits have also depleted to below $0, also recording a negative balance of -$88,629,401,855.

Guyana’s Contingency Reserve account also reflects an alarmingly low amount of $2.3 billion. When APNU/AFC took office in May 2015, Guyana’s General Reserve had in its coffers just about $6 billion while the Contingency Reserve held $4 billion.

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Bankrupted Treasury left by APNU/AFC will impact new Govt – Budget Institute

The Guyana Budget Policy Institute has expressed worry that the bankrupted state the A Partnership for National Unity/Alliance For Change (APNU/AFC) has left the treasury will make it that much harder for the incoming Government.

On Saturday, the Institute’s Executive Director Dhanraj Singh said that the new Government must immediately confront the challenge of the economic distress made worse by the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic.

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Guyana Budget Policy Institute Head, Dhanraj Singh

Singh in a letter to the editor said that families across Guyana, particularly those living in poverty and on low incomes, are hurting and experiencing financial hardship, “unlike anything we have seen in the last few decades. The longer this continues the worse it will get and the more difficult it will be to resolve.”

He pointed out that at the core are a rapid drying up of consumer spending and consumption due to the loss of household incomes, jobless growth over the past few years, and the necessary lockdown to limit the impact of the pandemic. The pandemic-induced layoffs would further worsen the situation.

In the circumstances, he noted, a stimulus package would be the best option for Guyana to recover. In addition, Singh said that it is important to launch a large enough stimulus since an ineffective stimulus will only make matters worse. However, the state of the treasury is not encouraging.

“This is important considering that the state of the public treasury that the new Government will assume will leave it with no other choice than to rely largely on new debts to finance the stimulus needed. The main legislative mechanism to operationalise such a fiscal stimulus is the national budget.”

“Without a Parliament, there is no budget and therefore the most effective policy tool to respond to this crisis is not available to the Government. This further emphasises the importance and urgency of bringing the 2020 elections to an end and for speedy installation of the new Administration.”

Budget needed

The data generated from the national elections recount shows that the main opposition People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) has won the elections with a total of 233,336 votes. This is 15,416 more votes than their nearest rivals, the incumbent APNU/AFC, which received 217,920 total votes. When one calculates using the Hare formula, it means that PPP/C would have secured 33 out of 65 seats in the National Assembly – and APNU/AFC would have secured 31 – and will form the next Government.

Singh stressed that the earlier a budget is implemented, the better. According to him, stimulus packages must be implemented as early as possible, must be directed to individuals and entities that spend additional resources and must err on the side of being larger instead of smaller than needed.

“Many families are without income and are currently surviving on whatever little savings they have while others are forced to make devastating choices like cutting the number of meals per day, rationing nutritious and healthy foods, forgoing needed medical treatment, abandoning or putting off important welfare and quality of life decisions. Some are teetering on hunger and homelessness while others are already found themselves in such inhumane conditions.”

Crises have profound human and economic costs, he said, adding that prolonged unemployment harms not only workers’ job prospects and lifetime earnings but also the health and well-being of them and their families. Poor, low-income, and low-skilled workers are the most vulnerable to these adverse effects.”

Long-term effects

According to Singh, long-term unemployment and reduced demand for goods and services can erode job skills among unemployed workers. This will, in turn, reduce business investments and depress the country’s economy and its productive capacity, even after COVID is suppressed.

“What is worse is with each passing day, the financial hardship is painfully creeping up the income ladder to those families who ordinarily would be considered safe. Put differently, no one is protected from this crisis if it continues unabated or at the least without a timely and sizeable fiscal response from the Government. How the Government responds to this crisis, however, is equally important to the response itself.”

As the new Administration positions itself to activate Parliament, he said, contemplating a fiscal stimulus that puts income in the hands of families and businesses would be key to surviving the crisis, shorten its impact, restore economic confidence, and ultimately allow for adaptation to the new social and economic realities.

The last budget approved by Guyana’s National Assembly was one for the fiscal year ending 2019 which means that all expenditure for the first half of 2020 has been curtailed to a monthly one-twelfth of the previous year’s expenditure. No new spending was possible during the first half of this year, save for special circumstances as was with the advent of the coronavirus Task Force.

The new Government, however, will soon find out that Guyana as a country is, as is used in Guyanese colloquial parlance, “broke”. Not only has the country’s general reserves been depleted to $0, but the account is also now running an overdraft to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars.

This situation is illustrated in the Bank of Guyana’s statement of Assets and Liabilities, published in the May 23 Official Gazette, revealing that the General Reserve is -$290,667,332. Additionally, Public Deposits have also depleted to below $0, also recording a negative balance of -$88,629,401,855.

Guyana’s Contingency Reserve account also reflects an alarmingly low amount of $2.3 billion. When APNU/AFC took office in May 2015, Guyana’s General Reserve had in its coffers just about $6 billion while the Contingency Reserve held $4 billion.

While oil revenues are expected to drastically boost Guyana’s revenue, the onset of COVID-19 has led to a drop in demand for oil and consequentially, a drop in prices. ExxonMobil, which is producing oil offshore Guyana, was also forced to announce cutbacks to its global work plans back in April.

FM

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