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President David Granger represented Guyana at the 2nd US-Caribbean-Central American Energy Summit, hosted by Vice President Joe Biden in Washington on May 3-4.
The first Summit last year emphasised the need for energy security through the substitution of renewables for petroleum products for energy development.
Even with current low oil prices, electricity prices in Guyana – as in the rest of the Caribbean – average over US$0.25 per kWh, about three to four times more than what is paid in the US or other developed countries. This high cost of energy for manufacturing and other uses has acted as a fetter on Guyana and the region’s efforts to produce more value-added products competitively.
Following the previous Summit, several Caricom countries embarked on projects to reduce energy costs and petroleum dependency. Jamaica moved ahead in renewables with a 36 MW wind farm that received US$63 million in funding from the World Bank’s International Finance Corporation and other donors. Exploratory drilling and preparatory work has been initiated in Dominica, Grenada, Monserrat, St Lucia, St Kitts and Nevis, and St Vincent and the Grenadines to harness geo-thermal energy to generate electricity.
In Guyana, however, efforts have lagged even though this country launched a Low Carbon Development Strategy (LCDS) in 2009, which had the generation of clean, renewable energy at its core.
The Amaila Falls Hydro-Electric Power (AFHEP) project was a flagship vehicle for renewable energy generation designed to replace the present generating capacity of 165 MW through petroleum products. Unfortunately, even though funding had been secured with US$80M committed by Norway from its GRIF contribution and the remaining funding had been secured though the China Development Bank, the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB) and the developer Site Global, the government which was then in opposition, derailed the project through its obdurate resistance.
President Granger returned from Washington an evidently disappointed man since the US committed only US$10M grant to seed the efforts of the entire Latin America and the Caribbean to move into renewables. His comment, “That’s not serious money. Guyana will put in a bid… but that is not enough seed money for the magnitude of project that we are envisioning” must be evaluated against the recent moves by the US to encourage the region away from the Venezuelan-initiated PetroCaribe energy facility.
Back in June 2014 US Vice President Joseph Biden had launched with great fanfare, the Caribbean Energy Security Initiative (CSEI) at a meeting with Caribbean leaders in the Dominical Republic. Biden emphasised US commitment to Caribbean energy security. Six months later, in January 2015 this was followed up with the US-Caribbean Energy Security Summit (CESS) in Washington DC.
CESS was supposed to lay the groundwork to enable countries to build the fiscal and legal frameworks necessary for the Caribbean’s wider adoption of renewable energy and energy efficient technologies. But as one Think Tank pointed out after the meeting, the US needed “to help the region address the three elephants barely mentioned in that ever-so-diplomatic room on January 26: the continuing erosion of the Venezuelan economy and its credit support for so many of the regions’ key energy consumers; the serious barriers to entry of private capital to power generation in so many Caribbean economies; and the need to formulate a serious response to the Caribbean Community’s (Caricom) request for more rapid access to volumes of US LNG and CNG.”
When in April of 2015 US President Barack Obama met leaders of the Caribbean in Kingston, Jamaica, he committed to providing “early-stage funding” for clean energy projects in the Caribbean. And also to establish a Task Force to examine the future of clean energy development in the Caribbean and Central America. And now just US$10M.
President Granger is correct. We cannot depend on aid for our energy security. AFHEP must be returned to the front burner

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Not surprising, this is what happens when you put a jackass to perform the duties of a diplomat. Look at the Venezuela fiasco how jackass Granger insulted Maduro a few days after attaining power through rigging. 

FM

Freddie Kissoon complains about the increase in blackouts at UG. 

He should get his boys to cuss down the responsible minister like what he was doing to PPP ministers.  Does he have the balls to do it?

Billy Ram Balgobin
Lennox posted:

Funny stuff - pastor outfit.  

aka the black shirt and the black pants that he wore to the United Nations General Assembly to meet the other World Leaders.  No jacket and tie.  

Bibi Haniffa
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Freddie Kissoon complains about the increase in blackouts at UG. 

He should get his boys to cuss down the responsible minister like what he was doing to PPP ministers.  Does he have the balls to do it?

Bai Freddie frighten them PNC man.  Did you see his apology letter to Trotman??  Dem gat him in his corner now with his tail between his legs chewing his bone happily.

Bibi Haniffa
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Lennox posted:

Funny stuff - pastor outfit.  

aka the black shirt and the black pants that he wore to the United Nations General Assembly to meet the other World Leaders.  No jacket and tie.  

I was in NY, saw him and was shocked.

FM
alena06 posted:

Energy Security

....Even with current low oil prices, electricity prices in Guyana – as in the rest of the Caribbean – average over US$0.25 per kWh, about three to four times more than what is paid in the US or other developed countries. This high cost of energy for manufacturing and other uses has acted as a fetter on Guyana and the region’s efforts to produce more value-added products competitively.

How many times I have talked about this and Caribj says, no way, the rest of the region have no problems.  The failure of the PNC is/was not bad luck or an accident, rather a lack of vision and understanding how to get things done!!

The PNC will take Guyana no where soon!!

FM
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Bibi Haniffa posted:

I hope you did not admit to anyone that you were Guyanese.  I would have pretended that I did not even know to speak English so this way no one can even guess

I was at UN with some work colleagues discussing a relocation to Switzerland.  I told them I'm of Asian origin and didn't know the pastor.     Incidentally, I think it's a Nehru Jacket that he's so fond of wearing.  So the guy has a world-class hero.

FM
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Lennox posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

I hope you did not admit to anyone that you were Guyanese.  I would have pretended that I did not even know to speak English so this way no one can even guess

I was at UN with some work colleagues discussing a relocation to Switzerland.  I told them I'm of Asian origin and didn't know the pastor.     Incidentally, I think it's a Nehru Jacket that he's so fond of wearing.  So the guy has a world-class hero.

Were you wearing silver shoes like Deolatchmee?

Mars
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Haha.  Good on you

I've been considering this move for the past two years.  Need to brush up on my European languages although I have some dear international work colleagues in Geneva who will help me. 

FM
Mars posted:
Lennox posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

I hope you did not admit to anyone that you were Guyanese.  I would have pretended that I did not even know to speak English so this way no one can even guess

I was at UN with some work colleagues discussing a relocation to Switzerland.  I told them I'm of Asian origin and didn't know the pastor.     Incidentally, I think it's a Nehru Jacket that he's so fond of wearing.  So the guy has a world-class hero.

Were you wearing silver shoes like Deolatchmee?

Is Deolatchmee the President of Guyana?  And no,  I'm a Prada kinda gal in the show department.

Bibi Haniffa
Lennox posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Haha.  Good on you

I've been considering this move for the past two years.  Need to brush up on my European languages although I have some dear international work colleagues in Geneva who will help me. 

Do it.  I have been to Geneva.  It's a fabulous place.  Most people there speak English.  Or at least know enough to get by. But if you know French it's even better.  I speak French so I had no problem.  I was surprised to see how many Indians live there.

Bibi Haniffa
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Drugb posted:

Not surprising, this is what happens when you put a jackass to perform the duties of a diplomat. Look at the Venezuela fiasco how jackass Granger insulted Maduro a few days after attaining power through rigging. 

I am sure that you are truly impressed with MADuro.  Too bad the vast majority of Venezuelans aren't.

FM
ba$eman posted:
 

How many times I have talked about this and Caribj says, no way, the rest of the region have no problems. 

Why does Jamaica have a more developed manufacturing sector than does Guyana?  And the DR?

In fact brown bai KKK basemen, I previously stated that other countries have comparable energy costs as does Guyana (only T&T is less), higher labor and other costs, and yet more developed manufacturing sectors.

We have the irony of Guyana importing processed foods from Barbados, when that island produces little of the raw materials. Aside from Limacol, what manufactured products does Guyana export to that island?

The energy bit is an excuse.   23 years. What new industries opened up in that period. What additional processing of our raw materials was performed in that period.

Look at you engaging in your usual "black man cant even run a cake shop" bigotry, when you have FAILED to prove that the PPP had anything going for it, other than the luck of high gold prices and huge levels of remittances which, are on a per capita basis, some of the highest into the Caribbean!

FM
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caribny posted:
Drugb posted:

Not surprising, this is what happens when you put a jackass to perform the duties of a diplomat. Look at the Venezuela fiasco how jackass Granger insulted Maduro a few days after attaining power through rigging. 

I am sure that you are truly impressed with MADuro.  Too bad the vast majority of Venezuelans aren't.

You continue to display the effects of years of pnc brain washing. This is not about being impressed with Maduro, it is about a leader(jackass Granger) acting like a thug, a few days after being elected. He managed to destroy the good relations that the PPP built with Venezuela and cost the rice farmers their livelihood. 

FM
Drugb posted:
 

You continue to display the effects of years of pnc brain washing. This is not about being impressed with Maduro, it is about a leader(jackass Granger) acting like a thug, a few days after being elected. He managed to destroy the good relations that the PPP built with Venezuela and cost the rice farmers their livelihood. 

Maduro behaved like a thug, threatening Guyana.  He moved his army to the border.  What did you expect Granger to do.  Bend over and let Maduro take over Guyana?

Note that while Maduro was doing this, he was also trying to pick a  fight with Colombia.  When he tried to get Cuba to back him, they told him that his antics are none of their business.

Colombia also put Maduro in his place.

Granger did what he had to do, and now the issue has quieted down quite a bit.  Exxon is still there, and will drill when prices become more sustainable.

Maduro, on the other hand, has lost control over the legislature, and will be dumped in the next presidential elections! 

Note that Maduro attempted to thwart the election by arresting large numbers of opposition leaders. Clearly it backfired.

And what good relations did the PPP have.  When Exxon began to drill, Maduro threatened the PPP regime.  The Minister of FA responded with a strongly worded letter, telling Maduro to "haul his ass". 

 

FM
caribny posted:

Maduro behaved like a thug, threatening Guyana.  He moved his army to the border.  What did you expect Granger to do.  Bend over and let Maduro take over Guyana?

Note that while Maduro was doing this, he was also trying to pick a  fight with Colombia.  When he tried to get Cuba to back him, they told him that his antics are none of their business.

Colombia also put Maduro in his place.

Granger did what he had to do, and now the issue has quieted down quite a bit.  Exxon is still there, and will drill when prices become more sustainable.

Maduro, on the other hand, has lost control over the legislature, and will be dumped in the next presidential elections! 

Note that Maduro attempted to thwart the election by arresting large numbers of opposition leaders. Clearly it backfired.

And what good relations did the PPP have.  When Exxon began to drill, Maduro threatened the PPP regime.  The Minister of FA responded with a strongly worded letter, telling Maduro to "haul his ass". 

 

The bottom line is that Granger cost rice farmers a lucrative Venezuelan market due to his lack of diplomacy.  You try to portray jackass Granger as some sort of hero who prevented an eminent invasion by Venezuela when the fact is that it was Granger who while in opposition was screaming that Venezuela was planning to invade Guyana when it turned out to be  a farce. 

Noteworthy is that once he became president he insulted Maduro, causing the oil for rice deal to collapse. Then Harmon slapped him in the head and told him to retract. Later at the UN he backed down when he claimed that Venezuela army was too big for Guyana to pose a threat to them, 40 times as big. He is a loud mouth who cost the nation. 

FM

Granger in known as an incompetent thief and has no diplomatic presentation on the world stage. He took a picture with Obama in NYC and his head was twist as if he had stiff neck. He dresses like a pastor, and his military medals are like brass coins hanging on cheap cloth. I am not surprise he came back empty handed. He sent his best and brightest to woooooo Canadian investors to Guyana, and they wound up spending more money on dinner, and came back with sour faces. On to now that brilliant idea is still silent. Now they believe that 50th jubilee will attract a ton of fools that they can get their hands on after they become intoxicated to rob them before they exit Guyana. This is Granger kind of investment for Guyana's economy.

FM
Drugb posted:

And not to mention,  one foot in the grave. 

Granger is a lot healthier than that big belly doofus he replaced. His heart was on the verge of giving out when he went for the stomach bypass surgery.  

Mars
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Mars posted:
Drugb posted:

And not to mention,  one foot in the grave. 

Granger is a lot healthier than that big belly doofus he replaced. His heart was on the verge of giving out when he went for the stomach bypass surgery.  

Such hateful language, Marso.  

FM
caribny posted:

 

when you have FAILED to prove that the PPP had anything going for it, other than the luck of high gold prices and huge levels of remittances ......

Why is remittances not at the same "huge" level now as when the PPP was the government?

FM
Drugb posted:
caribny posted:

 

 

The bottom line is that Granger cost rice farmers a lucrative Venezuelan market due to his lack of diplomacy.

The PPP used the SAME language against Maduro when he began to threaten Guyana, when Exxon arrived. In fact the US gov't even became involved to protect the interests of a US corporation.

Interesting that the PPP is so hateful of Guyana, that they wished to turn it over to Venezuela, in the hope that Maduro would then get rid of the LAWFULLY elected gov't, in install the PPP in a coup.  This because the masses of the population rejected them for the SECOND time!

Venezuela is BROKE.  They cannot afford to pay more for rice than the world market. 

No wonder so many non Indians suspect that large numbers of Indo Guyanese do not have the slightest bit of patriotism for Guyana, and would sell out to Venezuela.

Are you a Guyanese, or an Indian living in Guyana?  People really want to know this.

FM
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ksazma posted:
caribny posted:

 

when you have FAILED to prove that the PPP had anything going for it, other than the luck of high gold prices and huge levels of remittances ......

Why is remittances not at the same "huge" level now as when the PPP was the government?

Did I claim that remittances has declined? 

FACT.  You cannot point out any initiative of the PPP which transformed Guyana's economy.  Their failure to do so has rendered Guyana to be uncompetitive, and over reliant on preferential prices, which come at a cost.  That being mortgaging Guyana to a nation which wants to DESTROY it!

FM
Lennox posted:
Mars posted:
Drugb posted:

And not to mention,  one foot in the grave. 

Granger is a lot healthier than that big belly doofus he replaced. His heart was on the verge of giving out when he went for the stomach bypass surgery.  

Such hateful language, Marso.  

Brown bai KKK, why didn't you look at your buddies when they were calling blacks jungle animals?

FM
Mars posted:
Drugb posted:

And not to mention,  one foot in the grave. 

Granger is a lot healthier than that big belly doofus he replaced. His heart was on the verge of giving out when he went for the stomach bypass surgery.  

Not sure who you are talking about, I saw Ramoutar in Buddies gym in 2015 February.  He looked slim and trim lifting respectable weights for his age.  

FM
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caribny posted:

The PPP used the SAME language against Maduro when he began to threaten Guyana, when Exxon arrived. In fact the US gov't even became involved to protect the interests of a US corporation.

Interesting that the PPP is so hateful of Guyana, that they wished to turn it over to Venezuela, in the hope that Maduro would then get rid of the LAWFULLY elected gov't, in install the PPP in a coup.  This because the masses of the population rejected them for the SECOND time!

Venezuela is BROKE.  They cannot afford to pay more for rice than the world market. 

No wonder so many non Indians suspect that large numbers of Indo Guyanese do not have the slightest bit of patriotism for Guyana, and would sell out to Venezuela.

Are you a Guyanese, or an Indian living in Guyana?  People really want to know this.

Looks like you shipment of drugs came in today and you took a sample as you are hallucinating about PPP turning over Guyana to Venezuela.  When did this happen, it must have been in one of your visits to an alternate universe.

Remember rice for oil deal? Are you daft man, put on your thinking caps. In any barter structure there are benefits that are derived that are profitable even at higher perceived prices. 

FM
Drugb posted:
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. about PPP turning over Guyana to Venezuela.  .W

When Maduro and Jagdeo were screaming the same conspiracy theory about the PPP defeat it isn't a coincidence. 

Clearly Jagdeo called up Maduro, wept and wailed in his arms, and begged him to invade Guyana, and reinstall him as the Governor of the Essequibo State.  He probably told Madman that maybe he can even take the 1/3 that he doesn't claim.

In most countries when a foreign nation threatens, EVERY ONE jumps together to form a solid front to confront this enemy. NOT the PPP.  They jumped unto Maduro's side, wailing that Granger is treating him badly.

You will note that Maduro made threats to Guyana, and Granger reacted to those threats.

And tell me, how excellent were the PPP ties when on several occasions Venezuelan soldiers entered Guyana soil, attacking people, and destroying property?

Venezuela has to grab as much money for its oil, as it is broke.

The fact that there are food shortages in that country means that the farming sector has collapsed, and that foreign suppliers refuse to sell to them.  Why?  Because they know that Venezuela cannot pay them.

There is no "lucrative rice/oil" deal to get.  Tell Jagdeo to grow a brain!

 

FM
Drugb posted:

You must not have read the recent articles about pnc now pursuing Venezuela rice deal once again.

The PNC told its Ambassador to ask Venezuela to resume, and added that it was up to Venezuela to agree. 

They further added that they aren't begging Venezuela, but was focusing on assisting the farmers to reduce their costs, improve their access to financing, and locate new markets.

The PPP preferred to mortgage the rice industry to an enemy, with no plan B in place.

The fact that the coalition gov't is putting a number of incentives in place, meant that the PPP didn't offer this.

FM
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There is a moral lesson in this thread. And that is that the begging bowl that Jagdeo carted about is no longer a badge of honour to our economy. It's good to see Granger only holding out his hands in friendship, and not looking for free hand outs.

Mr.T
caribny posted:
Drugb posted:

You must not have read the recent articles about pnc now pursuing Venezuela rice deal once again.

The PNC told its Ambassador to ask Venezuela to resume, and added that it was up to Venezuela to agree. 

They further added that they aren't begging Venezuela, but was focusing on assisting the farmers to reduce their costs, improve their access to financing, and locate new markets.

The PPP preferred to mortgage the rice industry to an enemy, with no plan B in place.

The fact that the coalition gov't is putting a number of incentives in place, meant that the PPP didn't offer this.

We will see when the pnc empty the treasury. It is only a matter of time before the govt implodes as they continue to run the country into the ground,. 

FM
Drugb posted:
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We will see when the pnc empty the treasury. It is only a matter of time before the govt implodes as they continue to run the country into the ground,. 

The IMF said that under the coalition gov't public sector deficits have been reduced, and the overall fiscal condition is better.

The IMF obviously thinks that this gov't is less wasteful than the PPP was.

Continue with your brown bai screams. The whites, who you worship, think differently.

The point is that, even if the coalition gov't is too dumb to move Guyana from its 1932 economy, at least the same to be managing what little they have better.

FM
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caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
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We will see when the pnc empty the treasury. It is only a matter of time before the govt implodes as they continue to run the country into the ground,. 

The IMF said that under the coalition gov't public sector deficits have been reduced, and the overall fiscal condition is better.

The IMF obviously thinks that this gov't is less wasteful than the PPP was.

Continue with your brown bai screams. The whites, who you worship, think differently.

The point is that, even if the coalition gov't is too dumb to move Guyana from its 1932 economy, at least the same to be managing what little they have better.

With all the accolades you giving these PNC thugs, one might think that they are world class economists. Why not invite them to visit the US and give some advice to the American Congress?

FM
skeldon_man posted:
caribny posted:
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The IMF said that under the coalition gov't public sector deficits have been reduced, and the overall fiscal condition is better.

 

With all the accolades you giving these PNC thugs, one might think that they are world class economists. Why not invite them to visit the US and give some advice to the American Congress?

Do you know what the International Monetary Fund is?  I huge organization which doesn't give a fig about what caribny thinks.

Go argue and scream at them.  Call them racist, and accuse them of being Indian haters.  Rant that the black jungle animals have an Indian Eradication program, and that the IMF salivates at the sight of Indian blood.

Engage in all of your hysterical screams at the IMF if you wish!

FM

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