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Agriculture Minister is hoping to grow broccoli and cauliflower in commercial quantity in Guyana to save on import cost. I can't remember eating either of the two vegetables. Was I not being exposed to these vegetables, or Guyanese are becoming health conscious? 

 

At one time I heard Guyana was leasing lands to Trinidad for rearing pigs to save them on their importation of Pork in the twin Island. Guyana have a lot of waste land, and the Minister should encourage the locals to expand the Agri-industries and grow all perishable foods that are suitable with our climate. Agriculture is big business and it is the source of our survival.

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Originally Posted by Cobra:

Agriculture Minister is hoping to grow broccoli and cauliflower in commercial quantity in Guyana to save on import cost. I can't remember eating either of the two vegetables. Was I not being exposed to these vegetables, or Guyanese are becoming health conscious? 

 

At one time I heard Guyana was leasing lands to Trinidad for rearing pigs to save them on their importation of Pork in the twin Island. Guyana have a lot of waste land, and the Minister should encourage the locals to expand the Agri-industries and grow all perishable foods that are suitable with our climate. Agriculture is big business and it is the source of our survival.

Indeed they can. I once mentioned that sun-dried tomatoes can make a killing since rice barely makes a couple of hundred dollars a ton and is labor intensive. A ton of sun-dried tomatoes would be close to ten grand and can be grown in greenhouses hydroponically and rapidly. The same for lots of spices we need and use and can market.

 

We can grow coffee, avacodoes, coco etc and all of these can spawn alternative industries. My mom used to make chocolate from wild coco beans she picked when we passed the tree in the river or when she can easily get them. It was her treat for us.  We had lots of coffee trees on our ancestral land until a bunch of indo and rasta squatters moved in and destroyed everything.

 

Up the berbice river there are abundance of oranges of the most wonderful flavor. Think if those people do some serious grafting and actually begin to cultivate oranges in a scientific way how much we can have. There are opportunities everywhere but we have to kill the drug culture that suffocates creative entrepreneurship. It also needs strong justice system so recourse in the law does not get over run by private justice.

FM
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Originally Posted by Danyael:
We can grow coffee, avacodoes, coco etc and all of these can spawn alternative industries. My mom used to make chocolate from wild coco beans she picked when we passed the tree in the river or when she can easily get them. It was her treat for us.  We had lots of coffee trees on our ancestral land until a bunch of indo and rasta squatters moved in and destroyed everything.

Coffee, avocados and other crops are indeed good items grown in Guyana.  My parents has estates in the Pomeroon River where coffee was the main products; with fruits and other items were additional products.

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by Cobra:

Agriculture Minister is hoping to grow broccoli and cauliflower in commercial quantity in Guyana to save on import cost. I can't remember eating either of the two vegetables. Was I not being exposed to these vegetables, or Guyanese are becoming health conscious? 

 

At one time I heard Guyana was leasing lands to Trinidad for rearing pigs to save them on their importation of Pork in the twin Island. Guyana have a lot of waste land, and the Minister should encourage the locals to expand the Agri-industries and grow all perishable foods that are suitable with our climate. Agriculture is big business and it is the source of our survival.

Indeed they can. I once mentioned that sun-dried tomatoes can make a killing since rice barely makes a couple of hundred dollars a ton and is labor intensive. A ton of sun-dried tomatoes would be close to ten grand and can be grown in greenhouses hydroponically and rapidly. The same for lots of spices we need and use and can market.

 

We can grow coffee, avacodoes, coco etc and all of these can spawn alternative industries. My mom used to make chocolate from wild coco beans she picked when we passed the tree in the river or when she can easily get them. It was her treat for us.  We had lots of coffee trees on our ancestral land until a bunch of indo and rasta squatters moved in and destroyed everything.

 

Up the berbice river there are abundance of oranges of the most wonderful flavor. Think if those people do some serious grafting and actually begin to cultivate oranges in a scientific way how much we can have. There are opportunities everywhere but we have to kill the drug culture that suffocates creative entrepreneurship. It also needs strong justice system so recourse in the law does not get over run by private justice.

I always said if I ever return to Guyana, I will get into the agriculture business. I was good in agricultural science at a younger age and I still have a love for it. I don't even have to lease lands and that's less overhead expenditure. I can see myself becoming a millionaire in one year. Then again, you have to be there 24/7 to make sure your life and crop is not threatened by neighbors who love to eye up another man's sweat. 

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
We can grow coffee, avacodoes, coco etc and all of these can spawn alternative industries. My mom used to make chocolate from wild coco beans she picked when we passed the tree in the river or when she can easily get them. It was her treat for us.  We had lots of coffee trees on our ancestral land until a bunch of indo and rasta squatters moved in and destroyed everything.

Coffee, avocados and other crops are indeed good items grown in Guyana.  My parents has estates in the Pomeroon River where coffee was the main products; with fruits and other items were additional products.

Taking barley from a ritualistic stand point when our parents would say to us constantly, "you will know where barley goes grow" before a good trashing. Only a few years back I came to know that barley don't grow in Guyana. So, why we can't grow barley in Guyana since it's an ancient disciplinary phrase in ass whipping?

FM

People are coming up with some great ideas, but almost everyone expects government to undertake these projects. Let the entrepreneurs take chances with these ideas. It does not have to be a gov't project financed by taxpayers.

 

I have some ideas of my own. I am thinking about offering horse-back riding in National Park, G/town. for $US20 per hour. Money will be earned and a few jobs will be created.  With its high fibre content and richness in the B vitamins I want to market our locally grown katahar as brain food.

Billy Ram Balgobin
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by Cobra:

Agriculture Minister is hoping to grow broccoli and cauliflower in commercial quantity in Guyana to save on import cost. I can't remember eating either of the two vegetables. Was I not being exposed to these vegetables, or Guyanese are becoming health conscious? 

 

At one time I heard Guyana was leasing lands to Trinidad for rearing pigs to save them on their importation of Pork in the twin Island. Guyana have a lot of waste land, and the Minister should encourage the locals to expand the Agri-industries and grow all perishable foods that are suitable with our climate. Agriculture is big business and it is the source of our survival.

Indeed they can. I once mentioned that sun-dried tomatoes can make a killing since rice barely makes a couple of hundred dollars a ton and is labor intensive. A ton of sun-dried tomatoes would be close to ten grand and can be grown in greenhouses hydroponically and rapidly. The same for lots of spices we need and use and can market.

 

We can grow coffee, avacodoes, coco etc and all of these can spawn alternative industries. My mom used to make chocolate from wild coco beans she picked when we passed the tree in the river or when she can easily get them. It was her treat for us.  We had lots of coffee trees on our ancestral land until a bunch of indo and rasta squatters moved in and destroyed everything.

 

Up the berbice river there are abundance of oranges of the most wonderful flavor. Think if those people do some serious grafting and actually begin to cultivate oranges in a scientific way how much we can have. There are opportunities everywhere but we have to kill the drug culture that suffocates creative entrepreneurship. It also needs strong justice system so recourse in the law does not get over run by private justice.


Ray was referring also to you, you talk but do nothing. It is not up to govt to go into these venture, see what a wonderful job they did with sugar. The private farmers and entrepreneurs should be the ones driving this effort.

FM
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Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

People are coming up with some great ideas, but almost everyone expects government to undertake these projects. Let the entrepreneurs take chances with these ideas. It does not have to be a gov't project financed by taxpayers.

 

I have some ideas of my own. I am thinking about offering horse-back riding in National Park, G/town. for $US20 per hour. Money will be earned and a few jobs will be created.  With its high fibre content and richness in the B vitamins I want to market our locally grown katahar as brain food.

where you will stable the horses and i guess you never went to the national park in the afternoon you do not have much space to walk how people will ride horse when the rain fall you cannot ride horse on the grass

FM

Only last night I was looking at a documentary made in the U.K. where people are used to the indoor and afraid of the outdoors. A group of determine minds started an outdoor campaign on how to BRAND nature in ways to help people understand the importance of people's interaction with nature. This is something similar to what we're talking about, and I agree with you that people need to get into the agricultural industry and BRAND their produces for local and commercial marketing. Long time ago, I know that coconut products are great for business. Only lately I see private entrepreneurs are marketing a variety of products from coconuts that is ready for international exports. I always maintained that agriculture is still a viable business in Guyana.

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:

Only last night I was looking at a documentary made in the U.K. where people are used to the indoor and afraid of the outdoors. A group of determine minds started an outdoor campaign on how to BRAND nature in ways to help people understand the importance of people's interaction with nature. This is something similar to what we're talking about, and I agree with you that people need to get into the agricultural industry and BRAND their produces for local and commercial marketing. Long time ago, I know that coconut products are great for business. Only lately I see private entrepreneurs are marketing a variety of products from coconuts that is ready for international exports. I always maintained that agriculture is still a viable business in Guyana.

you have 2 things will stop you cold one is electricity and the second is transportation to get your products to external market 

FM
Originally Posted by seignet:
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Originally Posted by raymond:

they all can talk

As much as I know the talking is louder than action, the idea is good and I would like to be a part of this action. It's difficult to manage your business from America even with the money and resources. Them fellas would thief you blind.

You telling me!

you can say that again

FM
Originally Posted by warrior:
Originally Posted by Cobra:

Only last night I was looking at a documentary made in the U.K. where people are used to the indoor and afraid of the outdoors. A group of determine minds started an outdoor campaign on how to BRAND nature in ways to help people understand the importance of people's interaction with nature. This is something similar to what we're talking about, and I agree with you that people need to get into the agricultural industry and BRAND their produces for local and commercial marketing. Long time ago, I know that coconut products are great for business. Only lately I see private entrepreneurs are marketing a variety of products from coconuts that is ready for international exports. I always maintained that agriculture is still a viable business in Guyana.

you have 2 things will stop you cold one is electricity and the second is transportation to get your products to external market 

We would have had cheaper and cleaner electricity to run business and attract foreign investment like its going out of style if Granger didn't shit on the Amalia Falls Project.

FM
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Originally Posted by Cobra:
Originally Posted by warrior:
Originally Posted by Cobra:

Only last night I was looking at a documentary made in the U.K. where people are used to the indoor and afraid of the outdoors. A group of determine minds started an outdoor campaign on how to BRAND nature in ways to help people understand the importance of people's interaction with nature. This is something similar to what we're talking about, and I agree with you that people need to get into the agricultural industry and BRAND their produces for local and commercial marketing. Long time ago, I know that coconut products are great for business. Only lately I see private entrepreneurs are marketing a variety of products from coconuts that is ready for international exports. I always maintained that agriculture is still a viable business in Guyana.

you have 2 things will stop you cold one is electricity and the second is transportation to get your products to external market 

We would have had cheaper and cleaner electricity to run business and attract foreign investment like its going out of style if the Granger didn't shit on the Amalia Falls Project.

 

Shytting on opportunities for PPP dogs to tief is doin the Lord's Work!

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Originally Posted by warrior:
Originally Posted by Cobra:

Only last night I was looking at a documentary made in the U.K. where people are used to the indoor and afraid of the outdoors. A group of determine minds started an outdoor campaign on how to BRAND nature in ways to help people understand the importance of people's interaction with nature. This is something similar to what we're talking about, and I agree with you that people need to get into the agricultural industry and BRAND their produces for local and commercial marketing. Long time ago, I know that coconut products are great for business. Only lately I see private entrepreneurs are marketing a variety of products from coconuts that is ready for international exports. I always maintained that agriculture is still a viable business in Guyana.

you have 2 things will stop you cold one is electricity and the second is transportation to get your products to external market 

We would have had cheaper and cleaner electricity to run business and attract foreign investment like its going out of style if Granger didn't shit on the Amalia Falls Project.

first of all Amalia fall would have taken 5 yrs to build,and with ppp track record that is a maybe but the people had to stop this project is like throwing money in quick sand the ppp quick sand

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by Cobra:

Agriculture Minister is hoping to grow broccoli and cauliflower in commercial quantity in Guyana to save on import cost. I can't remember eating either of the two vegetables. Was I not being exposed to these vegetables, or Guyanese are becoming health conscious? 

 

At one time I heard Guyana was leasing lands to Trinidad for rearing pigs to save them on their importation of Pork in the twin Island. Guyana have a lot of waste land, and the Minister should encourage the locals to expand the Agri-industries and grow all perishable foods that are suitable with our climate. Agriculture is big business and it is the source of our survival.

Indeed they can. I once mentioned that sun-dried tomatoes can make a killing since rice barely makes a couple of hundred dollars a ton and is labor intensive. A ton of sun-dried tomatoes would be close to ten grand and can be grown in greenhouses hydroponically and rapidly. The same for lots of spices we need and use and can market.

 

We can grow coffee, avacodoes, coco etc and all of these can spawn alternative industries. My mom used to make chocolate from wild coco beans she picked when we passed the tree in the river or when she can easily get them. It was her treat for us.  We had lots of coffee trees on our ancestral land until a bunch of indo and rasta squatters moved in and destroyed everything.

 

Up the berbice river there are abundance of oranges of the most wonderful flavor. Think if those people do some serious grafting and actually begin to cultivate oranges in a scientific way how much we can have. There are opportunities everywhere but we have to kill the drug culture that suffocates creative entrepreneurship. It also needs strong justice system so recourse in the law does not get over run by private justice.


Ray was referring also to you, you talk but do nothing. It is not up to govt to go into these venture, see what a wonderful job they did with sugar. The private farmers and entrepreneurs should be the ones driving this effort.

I do what is easy. My cousins and I have 1500 acres. We have enough cows and sheep to keep them alive, and they plant a little rice ( 300 ) acres and take things easy. I would not do more, not in that political climate.

 

I have a nice spot in Valencia where my sister and I hope to retire given things will not change in Guyana soon and it is big enough to accommodate my two cousins and their 4 kids and ensure they have a better life.

 

My daughters will no go to Guyana. I would not see them fitting in. Same with my son. Guyana minus the PPP may stand a chance for change but that looks far beyond my warranty date.

FM
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Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

I do what is easy. M cousins and I have 1500 acres. We have enough cows and sheep to keep them alive, and plant a little rice ( 300 ) acres and take things easy. I would not do more, not in that political climate.

 

I have a nice spot in Valencia where my sister and I hope to retire given things will not change in Guyana and it is big enough to accommodate my two cousins and their 4 kids and ensure they have a better life.

 

My daughters will no go to Guyana. I would not see them fitting in. Same with my son. Guyana minus the PPP may stand a chance for change but that looks far beyond my warranty date.

Indeed Guyana is a risky venture for those living in the rural area where they can become targets for the good for nothing bandits who are organized and spend their energies planning robberies.  I assume you are talking about Valencia Florida and not Spain. I have my eyes on Hawaii, if you haven't been there, it is well worth the trip.   

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
 

I do what is easy. M cousins and I have 1500 acres. We have enough cows and sheep to keep them alive, and plant a little rice ( 300 ) acres and take things easy. I would not do more, not in that political climate.

 

I have a nice spot in Valencia where my sister and I hope to retire given things will not change in Guyana and it is big enough to accommodate my two cousins and their 4 kids and ensure they have a better life.

 

My daughters will no go to Guyana. I would not see them fitting in. Same with my son. Guyana minus the PPP may stand a chance for change but that looks far beyond my warranty date.

Indeed Guyana is a risky venture for those living in the rural area where they can become targets for the good for nothing bandits who are organized and spend their energies planning robberies.  I assume you are talking about Valencia Florida and not Spain. I have my eyes on Hawaii, if you haven't been there, it is well worth the trip.   

Spain...Valencia is situated nicely between the costa brava and malaga so that is going to be my haunt. I wish there were large forests with lots of  trees but I will take the shrub and scraggly trees. Hawaii is fine but my heart is set on being in Europe. Second best thing to be here and cheaper in retirement.

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:.   

Spain...Valencia is situated nicely between the costa brava and malaga so that is going to be my haunt. I wish there were large forests with lots of  trees but I will take the shrub and scraggly trees. Hawaii is fine but my heart is set on being in Europe. Second best thing to be here and cheaper in retirement.

Just be careful, there was a study that found depression tied to loss of social contact. This increases when people retire to unfamiliar places.

Retirement Could Be Bad for Health

May 30, 2013 | 46,488 views

By Dr. Mercola

Are you counting down the days until you can retire and spend your days playing golf, traveling, being with your grandkids or sipping iced tea from your front porch swing?

This idealistic image is a common one, but it may be somewhat unrealistic according to new research that suggests retiring may have a significantly negativeimpact on your physical and emotional health.

Retirement Boosts Your Risk of Depression by 40 Percent

According to a new report released by the Institute of Economic Affairs (IEA),1following an initial boost in health, retirement increases your risk of clinical depression by 40 percent while raising your chances of being diagnosed with a physical condition by 60 percent. It also:

  • Reduces your likelihood of being in self-reported excellent or very good health by 40 percent
  • Raises your risk of taking medication for a diagnosed physical condition by 60 percent

The study’s author, who called retirement’s impacts on health β€œdrastic,” suggested a later retirement age may actually be preferable, noting: 2

β€œNew research presented in this paper indicates that being retired decreases physical, mental and self-assessed health. The adverse effects increase as the number of years spent in retirement increases.”

Staying Active Is a Key to Good Health in Old Age

That retirement might increase health problems is not entirely surprising when you consider that two of the biggest hurdles facing the elderly are social isolation and inactivity. 

Harvard Professor of Public Policy Lisa Berkman cites social isolation as asignificant factor in longevity. If you're socially isolated, you may experience poorer health and a shorter lifespan. This may be, at least in part, because those who don't have good social networks may not be able to get assistance if they become ill. But also, staying socially connected with those around you keeps you happy and also keeps your brain active and challenged.

Walter Breuning, who lived to be 114, noted that keeping your mind and body busy was one of the key secrets to staying healthy, and he was right. But for many, retirement means a sudden loss of many work-related social ties and a drasticdecrease in activity levels.

So it’s quite plausible that retirement’s impact on your health depends on the typeof retirement you have. If you end up sitting at home by yourself instead of interacting with peers and staying active with hobbies and other pursuits, it’s likely both your physical and mental health will suffer.

On the other hand, if your retirement allows you the time to pursue interests you’ve always wanted to and gives you more time to spend with friends and family, you’ll probably be happier than ever. Indeed, some research has, in fact, shown that retirement is associated with lower risks of depression and fatigue.3 

Another factor, of course, is whether or not you enjoy your work. Someone who loves his or her job will obviously have a harder time with retirement than someone who dreads going to work. Even the current study’s author acknowledged the complexities of studying retirement’s role on health:4

β€œMost research on the relationship between health and working in old age has produced ambiguous results. Research in this area is inherently difficult because of the fact that, just as retirement can influence health, health can influence retirement decisions.”

Maintaining Structure and Finding Purpose in Your Day Are Keys to a Happy Retirement

Retirement is not much different from losing your job in that many struggle with a loss of identity and structure. The key role that may have defined who you are, your purpose and your daily routine is suddenly no longer there. But keep in mind that now you are free to develop a new role for yourself in life, and this can be very freeing and exciting.

The solution is to maintain some type of structure to your day. You may not have to set your alarm for 5 a.m. anymore, but perhaps you’ll make a point to get up at 7 a.m. each day to get showered and dressed for the day. From there, develop a new routine that makes sense for you and that allows you to fall into a comfortable yet still productive new β€œnormal.”

My mom is a great example. She is now 77 but still comes to work in my office a few times a week. It really provides her with a sense of purpose and keeps her mentally healthy.

So make a point to nurture your passions while filling your days with activity and purpose, whether that be planting a garden, walking your dog or building model ships. Be sure at least some of your activities also involve others, such as taking a yoga class at a nearby gym or connecting with your neighbors. You can even β€œunretire” yourself and get a fun part-time job, such as working at a baseball stadium, volunteering at the zoo or an animal shelter, or reading stories to kids at your local library.

Another aspect to consider? How retirement will change your relationship with your spouse. If you’re suddenly able to spend much more time with your spouse than you were before, it can sometimes lead to tension. Make a point to keep communicating and sharing your new desires and needs with each other, while at the same time allowing for alone time.

Americans’ Expectations of Retirement Are Changing…

The days of retiring at the age of 65 are over for many. In fact, a report by the Transamerica Center for Retirement Studies found that 56 percent of Americans expect to work past age 65 or do not plan to retire at all.5 Further, the majority of workers (54 percent) plan to work even after they retire. The truth is, many people are now embracing their older years as some of the most fulfilling of their lives. Reaching age 65 no longer means that it’s time to retire to your home and deal with aches and pains, forgetfulness and loneliness; instead, for many this is a time for new beginnings.

Remember your health can actually improve as you age. For most, this is relatively easy as they were eating the wrong foods and not exercising most of their lives. 

But even for someone like myself who has paid diligent attention to these factors, I am constantly revising my health regimen and now in my late 50s, I believe I am the fittest I have ever been in my life. I may have been able to run faster when I was younger but I would never trade that for the muscle strength, flexibility and knowledge that I have today. You too can achieve wellness on both physical and mental fronts, and you can do so at any age, whether you’re retired or not. In fact, in many respects life only continues to get better as the years go by.

This, of course, depends on your ability to stay healthy and happy, so with that in mind, I urge you to check out my list of the top dozen lifestyle strategies I believe can make the biggest difference in your total well-being at any age.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:.  
Spain...Valencia is situated nicely between the costa brava and malaga so that is going to be my haunt. I wish there were large forests with lots of  trees but I will take the shrub and scraggly trees. Hawaii is fine but my heart is set on being in Europe. Second best thing to be here and cheaper in retirement.
Just be careful, there was a study that found depression tied to loss of social contact. This increases when people retire to unfamiliar places.


Why do you think it is unfamiliar?  My sister has her home on the other side of the property  and my mother will be with her. I would also have more family within a few hours drive there than I do here presently.   I already have lots of mountain-biking friends and there are lots of trails to keep me busy.

FM

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