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Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
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Now you change your story to 90%, another fictitious number.  If PPP lost 10% of Indian votes to the AFC then that leaves them with 33%, they would need more than 10% of the Black votes to make up the deficit as Afros only make up 30% of the population. Your fuzzy math is being exposed. 

 

 

I see that not only are you an idiot but you are one who doesnt understand basic arithmetic.  Druggie 10% of 43% is 4.3%, not 10%.

 

Seriously did you go to Saints, or did you play in the compound but failed Common Entrance?  Maybe your father bribed some one to have you accepted because you do not even know Common Entrance level arithmetic!

 

Now if it were possible to separate the black from the mixed vote (which I will not attempt to do) one will most likely see that mixed voters were more likely to support the PPP than were blacks, given that some are douglas.  So we can therefore assume that way more than 90% of the African voters rejected the PPP.

 

 

I told you before that the mixed population increased by more than 50% between 1991 and 2002.  Clearly this increase was due to more babies of mixed ancestry being born. 

 

The only mixed people who were born after 1991 who would have been able to vote in 2011 would have been those born in 1992 and 1993.   When we take into account that young voters are less likely to vote than middle and older voters and we  factor in that most of the increased in the mixed population would consist of people who would have been too young to vote in 2011 we can conclude that the Indian and the African voting population would have been OVERREPRESENTED compared to the total, and the mixed population would have been significantly UNDER represented.

 

 

Note that the African vote was maybe 32% of the total and yet APNU won 41% of the votes.  And this being acheived without significant amounts of Amerindian or Indian support.

 

 

You are a stupid idiot and ought to spend your days drinking cheap rum and babbling and should cease engaging in topics for which you lack the intellectual capacity to comprehend.  As we see even basic arthmetic is beyond your ability.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Conscience:

The Guyanese economy remains strong, the present administration is doing its best to keep the country on the path of development and economic prosperity


Now tell us exactly what industries did the PPP develop. 

So I am listening.


I see that you are unable to respond.  OK with gold now at 51% of our exports and sugar having fallen behind even bauxite in export value what really ha sthe PPP done.  The only industry which they have invested is dying and they blame every one but themselves for this.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny: 

 

Now if it were possible to separate the black from the mixed vote (which I will not attempt to do) one will most likely see that mixed voters were more likely to support the PPP than were blacks, given that some are douglas.  So we can therefore assume that way more than 90% of the African voters rejected the PPP.

 

 

I told you before that the mixed population increased by more than 50% between 1991 and 2002.  Clearly this increase was due to more babies of mixed ancestry being born. 

 

The only mixed people who were born after 1991 who would have been able to vote in 2011 would have been those born in 1992 and 1993.   When we take into account that young voters are less likely to vote than middle and older voters and we  factor in that most of the increased in the mixed population would consist of people who would have been too young to vote in 2011 we can conclude that the Indian and the African voting population would have been OVERREPRESENTED compared to the total, and the mixed population would have been significantly UNDER represented.

 

 

Note that the African vote was maybe 32% of the total and yet APNU won 41% of the votes.  And this being acheived without significant amounts of Amerindian or Indian support.

 

 

Now you claim that the mixed votes goes the PPP way, douglas traditionally gravitate to Afros as they are often rejected by their Indian relatives. So the difference in Region 4 must have been Black votes as we know that the region has at least 75% Blacks, how do you explain the PPP winning 3 seats to the APNU's 4?

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
 

 

Now you claim that the mixed votes goes the PPP way, douglas traditionally gravitate to Afros as they are often rejected by their Indian relatives. So the difference in Region 4 must have been Black votes as we know that the region has at least 75% Blacks, how do you explain the PPP winning 3 seats to the APNU's 4?


Druggie it is clear to me that when you did the CXC/GCE exam in English comprehension you scored an "F".

 

Saying that mixed voters might be  more likely to vote for the PPP than are African voters is very different from saying that most mixed voters supported the PPP.  It is however possible to suggest that Africans feel more paranoid about Indian domination than do mixed people. because Indians have a fetish about light skin, and an intense hatred for dark skin, even when it is an Indian.  And also the conflict in Guyana is more directly between Indians and Africans, and so those who identify with neither, might be more neutral to which ethnic group dominates.

 

 

And indeed I told you that the PNC won 41% of the votes despite the fact that the African vote is 32% and very few Indians or Amerindians supported them.  Clearly I suggest that most mixed voters supported the PNC, and indeed have since the 1957 election (even when we ignored the clearly rigged elections of 68,73,81, and 85).

 

And druggie you need to get the FACTS before making silly comments.  region 4 not only includes Gtwn but also the very densely populated rural areas, including the increasingly suburbanized EBD and ECD.

 

FYI the 2002 census indicates that region 4 is 42% African, 38% Indian and 18% mixed.   Go ahead and scream that you cant find this data.  And again i will suggest to you that the % of voters who are either Indian or African, is higher than their representation in the total population.  So more than 38% of the region 4 voting age population is Indian.

 

Further the PNC won 54% of the votes in Region 4, the PPP 39% and the rest going to the AFC.   So the PNC and the AFC got the African/mixed vote with the PPP winning most of the Indian vote.  the Indians who voted AFC were Nagamootoo supporters and so the majority of Indian support for the AFC was in regions 5 and 6.

 

Clearly druggie the core of the PPP base are Indians while the PNC gets the largest share of the mixed vote, splitting it with the AFC.

 

If you dont understand this ask a 5 year old kid to explain it to you.

FM
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Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
 

Now you claim that the mixed votes goes the PPP way, douglas traditionally gravitate to Afros as they are often rejected by their Indian relatives.

Also druggie if in an Indian dominated Guyana (a very different place from what it was in the 70s when I would agree with you that Indians in general and rural Indians in particular were despised and held in low esteem by most non Indians)  douglas still remain hostile to Indians, when it is to their advantage to leverage those ties, then it indicates a huge problem.

 

That is Indians are clannish, and despise non Indians, even when these non Indians are part Indian themselves.  Even you accept the fact that most blacks will accept a dougla if he accepts the black aspect of his heritage.

 

Blacks in Guyana CANNOT be clannish as there is no definitive point where one ceases to be black.  Either by race or by culture.

 

Given our history most of us have differing degrees of non African ancestry and even within a given nuclear family one can see people with different phenotypes. 

 

Further we are culturally "creole" that being a grab bag of a culture developed by the interaction of African slaves and European slave masters/colonialists, and enhanced by influences from the other ethnic groups in the Caribbean, Indians being a definite aspect of it, as the popularity of roti, even in countries with low IndoCaribbean populations indicate.  Plus the madras plaid cloth which is included in the national costumes of almost every English and French speaking island.

 

We cannot even agree as to what we should call ourselves.  Some want to be called "black", some hate it and prefer "negro" (usually older people).  Others say they are "AfroGuyanese" because they are not a color, and yet others say that "Afro" is a hairstyle and they are "African".  No one can tell you with credibility who in Guyana is "black" and who is "mixed".   Certainly not in the way that one is either Indian or non Indian.

FM
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