"This is not someone who should ever have the nuclear codes because it's not hard to imagine Donald Trump leading us into a war just because somebody got under his very thin skin."

RiffRaff posted:

"This is not someone who should ever have the nuclear codes because it's not hard to imagine Donald Trump leading us into a war just because somebody got under his very thin skin."

It was Hillary who voted for Iraq, led the charge against Libya, handed us Benghazi, prefers to see the slaughter in Syria continue till Assad falls and wanted us to get more direct in Ukr!!

Hillary tries to come across calm, but she lacks judgement!  She thinks, analyses, contemplates then comes to the wrong conclusions!

ba$eman posted:

RiffRaff posted:

"This is not someone who should ever have the nuclear codes because it's not hard to imagine Donald Trump leading us into a war just because somebody got under his very thin skin."

It was Hillary who voted for Iraq, led the charge against Libya, handed us Benghazi, prefers to see the slaughter in Syria continue till Assad falls and wanted us to get more direct in Ukr!!

Hillary tries to come across calm, but she lacks judgement!  She thinks, analyses, contemplates then comes to the wrong conclusions!

Hillary fell into the trap of most US politicians when she voted the illegal invasion of Iraq in 2003. It is always sexy for US politicians to come together when it means kicking some Muslims asses. Just like the silly vote in Congress recently where private US citizens can sue another country's government for what private citizens from that country do. Don't even know how they would even collect on any of those judgments without breaking a few more international and trade laws. It also opens the door for foreign citizens to sue us for what private US citizens do. Or are we saying that we are so powerful that we refuse to play by our own rules? Leaders can't be like Burnham who insist that the led live in need while he lavish in greed. This voting for Iraq will not hurt Hillary's presidential bid.

The other thing is that I find it silly how regular everyday people will allow themselves to get physically beat up for Trump and Hillary. For all you know, Trump is busy enjoying his super sexy wife while these fools are taking blows.

Regarding Hillary, I don't know what to say about Her sexually. She just doesn't have the appeal.

ksazma posted:

ba$eman posted:

RiffRaff posted:

"This is not someone who should ever have the nuclear codes because it's not hard to imagine Donald Trump leading us into a war just because somebody got under his very thin skin."

It was Hillary who voted for Iraq, led the charge against Libya, handed us Benghazi, prefers to see the slaughter in Syria continue till Assad falls and wanted us to get more direct in Ukr!!

Hillary tries to come across calm, but she lacks judgement!  She thinks, analyses, contemplates then comes to the wrong conclusions!

Hillary fell into the trap of most US politicians when she voted the illegal invasion of Iraq in 2003. It is always sexy for US politicians to come together when it means kicking some Muslims asses. Just like the silly vote in Congress recently where private US citizens can sue another country's government for what private citizens from that country do. Don't even know how they would even collect on any of those judgments without breaking a few more international and trade laws. It also opens the door for foreign citizens to sue us for what private US citizens do. Or are we saying that we are so powerful that we refuse to play by our own rules? Leaders can't be like Burnham who insist that the led live in need while he lavish in greed. This voting for Iraq will not hurt Hillary's presidential bid.

The other thing is that I find it silly how regular everyday people will allow themselves to get physically beat up for Trump and Hillary. For all you know, Trump is busy enjoying his super sexy wife while these fools are taking blows.

Regarding Hillary, I don't know what to say about Her sexually. She just doesn't have the appeal.

No Bro She knew exactly what she was doing

Pointblank posted:

ksazma posted:

ba$eman posted:

RiffRaff posted:

"This is not someone who should ever have the nuclear codes because it's not hard to imagine Donald Trump leading us into a war just because somebody got under his very thin skin."

It was Hillary who voted for Iraq, led the charge against Libya, handed us Benghazi, prefers to see the slaughter in Syria continue till Assad falls and wanted us to get more direct in Ukr!!

Hillary tries to come across calm, but she lacks judgement!  She thinks, analyses, contemplates then comes to the wrong conclusions!

Hillary fell into the trap of most US politicians when she voted the illegal invasion of Iraq in 2003. It is always sexy for US politicians to come together when it means kicking some Muslims asses. Just like the silly vote in Congress recently where private US citizens can sue another country's government for what private citizens from that country do. Don't even know how they would even collect on any of those judgments without breaking a few more international and trade laws. It also opens the door for foreign citizens to sue us for what private US citizens do. Or are we saying that we are so powerful that we refuse to play by our own rules? Leaders can't be like Burnham who insist that the led live in need while he lavish in greed. This voting for Iraq will not hurt Hillary's presidential bid.

The other thing is that I find it silly how regular everyday people will allow themselves to get physically beat up for Trump and Hillary. For all you know, Trump is busy enjoying his super sexy wife while these fools are taking blows.

Regarding Hillary, I don't know what to say about Her sexually. She just doesn't have the appeal.

No Bro She knew exactly what she was doing

I agree. 'Fell into the trap' is just a play on words. They all know what they can get away. After all, it was Truman who set the stage when he famously answered when asked about his haste in ratifying the state of Israel, "I don't have 100 million Arabs in my constituency". That is why Schumer can get away with his nonsense. Same with many of those red neck Republicans the way they treat Obama like a lil black slave not fit for the White House.

ba$eman posted:

 

Hillary tries to come across calm, but she lacks judgement!  She thinks, analyses, contemplates then comes to the wrong conclusions!

At least she thinks.

Trump doesn't, so will press the button to release nuclear war heads, and then realize that he shouldn't have done this merely because Cameron called him an idiot, or China called him a fool.

BTW no 9/11 incident happened when she was Secretary of State.

ksazma posted:

conclusions!

Hillary fell into the trap of most US politicians when she voted the illegal invasion of Iraq in 2003.

Hillary, and SANDERS, supported the invasion out of cowardice, but had it been President Gore this wouldn't have happened.  Americans were furious over 9/11 and wanted to kick some Muslim ass.  The Democrats were scared that they would have been seen as wimps, as that was the image that the GOP painted of them then.

Had it been Trump, he would have released nuclear warheads on Iran, and then we would have had WWIII when Putin released his as well.

In fact Trump is now running around screaming that Obama is a softy who lets the world push America around.  He will pull a Hiroshima to show the world that "America is Great again".  He will do this to China, and then be shocked when the US dollar tanks, and interest rates soar as China sells off its US assets, and invests in the pound instead.

caribny posted:

ksazma posted:

Hillary fell into the trap of most US politicians when she voted the illegal invasion of Iraq in 2003.

Hillary, and SANDERS, supported the invasion out of cowardice, but had it been President Gore this wouldn't have happened.  Americans were furious over 9/11 and wanted to kick some Muslim ass.  The Democrats were scared that they would have been seen as wimps, as that was the image that the GOP painted of them then.

Had it been Trump, he would have released nuclear warheads on Iran, and then we would have had WWIII when Putin released his as well.

In fact Trump is now running around screaming that Obama is a softy who lets the world push America around.  He will pull a Hiroshima to show the world that "America is Great again".  He will do this to China, and then be shocked when the US dollar tanks, and interest rates soar as China sells off its US assets, and invests in the pound instead.

Exactly why I maintain that Politicians are no more than ass wipes. I don't know why people put their lives in danger for these people. My time would be better spent with Melania than getting beat up with a baton or being pepper sprayed like those fools in California.

ksazma posted:

. My time would be better spent with Melania than getting beat up with a baton or being pepper sprayed like those fools in California.

So you will let those people do as they wish, because they will if the rest of us let them.

And in today's tech world no need for protests either.  Politicians get most frantic when they get bombed by so many emails that their systems crash.

caribny posted:

ksazma posted:

. My time would be better spent with Melania than getting beat up with a baton or being pepper sprayed like those fools in California.

So you will let those people do as they wish, because they will if the rest of us let them.

And in today's tech world no need for protests either.  Politicians get most frantic when they get bombed by so many emails that their systems crash.

Not in America bai. Elections take place on time here.

ba$eman posted:

RiffRaff posted:

"This is not someone who should ever have the nuclear codes because it's not hard to imagine Donald Trump leading us into a war just because somebody got under his very thin skin."

It was Hillary who voted for Iraq, led the charge against Libya, handed us Benghazi, prefers to see the slaughter in Syria continue till Assad falls and wanted us to get more direct in Ukr!!

Hillary tries to come across calm, but she lacks judgement!  She thinks, analyses, contemplates then comes to the wrong conclusions!

ba$e......the Libyan mission you speak of (led the charge against Libya) was to prevent the imminent slaughter/genocide. Let me remind you of the run up to that decision for the air campaign against the Libyan forces.

After its people rose up in 2011 following the uprisings of the Arab Spring in neighboring Egypt and Tunisia, Qaddafi began attacking his own civilians. The US President, sensing the danger to Americans in Libya ordered non-essential personnel out of Libya and there was a travel advisory. He froze over $33 billion of Libyan sovereign financial assets. The UN employed sanctions. Obama called for him to step down.

Qaddafi's response was to double down on attacks on his people. You may remember reports of hospitals being attacked by Qaddafi's forces and the City of Misurata had its water supply shut down to strangle a huge city.

The Europeans and the other Arab countries called on the US to lead a coalition to stop Qaddafi's onslaught on his people. In that coalition's effort the US supplied the smart power - intel and refueling -  and the Europeans and Arabs the air power. Even with this Qaddafi geared up to annihilate Benghazi. With impending genocide of a city of just under a million people Obama got the US involved more forcefully by taking out Qaddafi's airforce and stopped the advancing troops on Benghazi. The US was doing its traditional role - stop genocide as in Serbia, Rwanda, the mountains where the Yazidis were threatened by ISIS.

After all this Qaddafi was still in power and you will recall that it was his own people who snagged him after he fled to Sirte and was plotting against the Transitional government. After he was killed the US led the efforts to finance Libya's recovery with Hillary in charge.

The US ambassador took it upon himself to fly from the safe confines of Tripoli to Benghazi - a consulate to the opposite end of the country with less protection. The Benghazi hearings were relentless by Republicans and exactly what are you saying about Hillary handing us Benghazi? Speak clearly, concisely and factually so I can respond or forever hold your tongue.

ksazma posted:

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Not in America bai. Elections take place on time here.

So if Trump wins because some decided not to vote, that is OK with you.

Elections only have meaning when people vote. Politicians only respond to the people when the people insist that they do. 

This is why white areas get better services than heavily immigrant areas.  Yes racism might be part of it, but the other part is that whites demand that politicians respond to them.  Too many of the rest of us are like you.

Kari posted:

 The Benghazi hearings were relentless by Republicans and exactly what are you saying about Hillary handing us Benghazi? Speak clearly, concisely and factually so I can respond or forever hold your tongue.

In fact the GOP wasted time on the Benghazi hearings, thinking that it would break down Hillary.

It merely built her up, and made her look presidential, especially when she told them to stop the confounded nonsense, as there was nothing to discuss.  And that their focus should be on representing the best interests of the people who elected them.

It is after those hearings that I began to believe that Hillary might pull it off.  Before then I was convinced that she would lose, even to a GOP monkey, not that Trump is much better than that.