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FM
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Ok Folks,

Guyana can end it's racial strife in 2020.

Here is how:

1. Respect for others races.

2. Appreciation of each others race and culture.

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3. Vote PPP

4. Never vote for the PNC again.

5. Make it mandatory for courses in Race relations at all levels of     Education in Guyana.

Yuji (GNI's Most respected Poster)

Please add suggestions as we look forward to a change in direction in 2020.

 

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D2 posted:
cain posted:

Racial strife could end when they put those such as yourselves in quarantine for the rest of your lives.

he he heeeee!

I have to stop laughing for a minute in order to write this comment. Most appropriate after a long day.

Cain, do you have a dictionary of phrases, or an advisory committee to assist with these classical and  appropriate comments ?

Bro, you are one of a kind.

Dogs with rabies goes to quarantine. Is that toothpaste or frothing at the mouth ?

Tola
Tola posted:
D2 posted:
cain posted:

Racial strife could end when they put those such as yourselves in quarantine for the rest of your lives.

he he heeeee!

I have to stop laughing for a minute in order to write this comment. Most appropriate after a long day.

Cain, do you have a dictionary of phrases, or an advisory committee to assist with these classical and  appropriate comments ?

Bro, you are one of a kind.

Dogs with rabies goes to quarantine. Is that toothpaste or frothing at the mouth ?

The situation of East Indians and Douglas in Guyana is no laughing matter. An East Indian in North America can safely laugh. An East Indian in North America can talk safely about racist Indians. Their traitor brown behinds are safe with laws and law enforcement protecting their traitor brown backsides..

Prashad
yuji22 posted:

Ok Folks,

Guyana can end it's racial strife in 2020.

Here is how:

1. Respect for others races.

2. Appreciation of each others race and culture.

handshake 2.40.32 PM

3. Vote PPP

4. Never vote for the PNC again.

5. Make it mandatory for courses in Race relations at all levels of     Education in Guyana.

Yuji (GNI's Most respected Poster)

Please add suggestions as we look forward to a change in direction in 2020.

 

 

FM
Prashad posted:

When people are brainwashed in society from the time that they were young to see the koolie as a subhuman inferior then the institutions of society just become a continuation.

Dr. Odeen Ishmael shared his experience about how Indians were viewed and treated in British Guiana.  He said the Africans felt socially superior to the Indians because they were educated according English standards and were employed in the civil service.

Is he right?

Billy Ram Balgobin
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:
Prashad posted:

When people are brainwashed in society from the time that they were young to see the koolie as a subhuman inferior then the institutions of society just become a continuation.

Dr. Odeen Ishmael shared his experience about how Indians were viewed and treated in British Guiana.  He said the Africans felt socially superior to the Indians because they were educated according English standards and were employed in the civil service.

Is he right?

If you read Edgar Mittelholzer's book on British Guiana society then it does prove that Dr. Odeen has a point.  My view of the issue is two-fold that experiences from colonialism has brainwashed people into the belief that the East Indian is a subhuman individual but most importantly the experiences from colonialism has grounded in people in an unbreakable belief that they should only be ruled by their own race. 

Prashad
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Prashad posted:
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:
Prashad posted:

When people are brainwashed in society from the time that they were young to see the koolie as a subhuman inferior then the institutions of society just become a continuation.

Dr. Odeen Ishmael shared his experience about how Indians were viewed and treated in British Guiana.  He said the Africans felt socially superior to the Indians because they were educated according English standards and were employed in the civil service.

Is he right?

If you read Edgar Mittelholzer's book on British Guiana society then it does prove that Dr. Odeen has a point.  My view of the issue is two-fold that experiences from colonialism has brainwashed people into the belief that the East Indian is a subhuman individual but most importantly the experiences from colonialism has grounded in people in an unbreakable belief that they should only be ruled by their own race. 

I went to school in Guyana and I experienced racism at the hands of Afros. If I say I did not I will be lying. 

Billy Ram Balgobin
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:
Prashad posted:

When people are brainwashed in society from the time that they were young to see the koolie as a subhuman inferior then the institutions of society just become a continuation.

Dr. Odeen Ishmael shared his experience about how Indians were viewed and treated in British Guiana.  He said the Africans felt socially superior to the Indians because they were educated according English standards and were employed in the civil service.

Is he right?

Similar situation in all the former colonies not just British Colonies. In Haiti the lighter skinned or mixed race were given the civil jobs. Same thing in Rwanda with the Hutu and Tutsi. Colonial powers favored one race/group to control the other. We are too blind and stupid to see it and then it's too late.

GTAngler
Prashad posted:

When people are brainwashed in society from the time that they were young to see the koolie as a subhuman inferior then the institutions of society just become a continuation.

Prashad, seek help.  For every bit of inhumanity that SOME blacks have directed to Indians SOME Indians have directed towards blacks and douglas. MANY douglas can tell you of how their Indian mothers were disowned by their parents. Look at how the Indo KKK thinks that accusing some one of having black relatives is an insult.

Blacks see nothing wrong with "douglarization". Many Indians see it as "contaminating" "pure" Indian blood with the "vile" blood of the African.  Cobra went into deep mourning when a relative of his married a black person and this was made public on GNI.  Yuji being equally bad.

FM
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:
 

I went to school in Guyana and I experienced racism at the hands of Afros. If I say I did not I will be lying. 

And many of those Afros have their own narrative of being discriminated against by Indians, so your point?  It is an established fact that neither Africans nor Indians care much for each other.

FM
Prashad posted:
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:
Prashad posted:

When people are brainwashed in society from the time that they were young to see the koolie as a subhuman inferior then the institutions of society just become a continuation.

Dr. Odeen Ishmael shared his experience about how Indians were viewed and treated in British Guiana.  He said the Africans felt socially superior to the Indians because they were educated according English standards and were employed in the civil service.

Is he right?

If you read Edgar Mittelholzer's book on British Guiana society then it does prove that Dr. Odeen has a point.  My view of the issue is two-fold that experiences from colonialism has brainwashed people into the belief that the East Indian is a subhuman individual but most importantly the experiences from colonialism has grounded in people in an unbreakable belief that they should only be ruled by their own race. 

This is where you display your own ignorance. In fact Mittelholzer was a "red man" who despised his African ancestry and allegedly committed suicide because of this.

In Colonial British Guiana expat whites were on top, with local whites below them, followed by Portuguese and then Chinese and light skinned CHRISTIAN Indians (the Luckhoos) and light skinned red people.  Then came the brown while blacks and Indians were at the BOTTOM.  Amerindians weren't even considered fully human so weren't part of society.

Blacks occupied lower level civil service positions, teaching, nursing, trades, and the lower ranks of the police force. For any one to claim that they were the favored ones is pure bullshyte.  The British played divide and rule. 

They allowed the blacks lower level civil servant jobs and destroyed their villages and farming and small business base as they didn't want them to be independent. They allowed Indians easier access to land but put in lace barriers for non Christians to enter the civil service, so those Indians who refused to convert and who refused to assimilate were excluded.

Bottom line is that those Indians willing to convert and who were light skinned received privileges and were as derisive of blacks as were the other privileged groups. They were EQUALLY derisive towards less assimilated Indians, especially those who remained Hindus.

FM
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Billy Ram Balgobin posted:
 

Dr. Odeen Ishmael shared his experience about how Indians were viewed and treated in British Guiana.  He said the Africans felt socially superior to the Indians because they were educated according English standards and were employed in the civil service.

Is he right?

And Indians felt superior to blacks as they have straight hair, and usually lighter in skin color, and often with more Caucasoid features. These features being highly prized during the colonial era.  This is why Indians used a term derived from the Hindi word for bastard to describe some one of mixed Indian and black ancestry.

Your point?  You know you aren't going to be allowed to peddle the lie that only blacks are racist while I am still around.

FM

I have proven something in this post which proves my point that Guyana should make it mandatory to have race relations at all levels of the education system.

No one has provided any solutions. 

The same old talk about the problems without solutions. Zero.

SMH.

Carib wants racial tension to remain otherwise he becomes irrelevant. 

I am pushing for a solution but it may appear that Guyanese of ALL races do not want a solution and GNI is a clear reflection of the problem. These posts are a reflection of that mentality.

FM
yuji22 posted:

I have proven something in this post which proves my point that Guyana should make it mandatory to have race relations at all levels of the education system.

No one has provided any solutions. 

 

I am pushing for a solution but it may appear that Guyanese of ALL races do not want a solution and GNI is a clear reflection of the problem. These posts are a reflection of that mentality.

Actually, from your starting post on this topic, I gather you want Guyana to end its racial problems in 2020 only on Indian/PPP terms. Your prescription: 

"3. Vote PPP

4. Never vote for the PNC again."

It is axiomatic that Indians are the PPP's electoral stronghold and Blacks are the PNC's electoral stronghold. Your points 3 and 4 have shot down your push for a solution, massa.

Push again, but this time for an all-embracing national non-discriminatory solution.

FM
Gilbakka posted:
yuji22 posted:

I have proven something in this post which proves my point that Guyana should make it mandatory to have race relations at all levels of the education system.

No one has provided any solutions. 

 

I am pushing for a solution but it may appear that Guyanese of ALL races do not want a solution and GNI is a clear reflection of the problem. These posts are a reflection of that mentality.

Actually, from your starting post on this topic, I gather you want Guyana to end its racial problems in 2020 only on Indian/PPP terms. Your prescription: 

"3. Vote PPP

4. Never vote for the PNC again."

It is axiomatic that Indians are the PPP's electoral stronghold and Blacks are the PNC's electoral stronghold. Your points 3 and 4 have shot down your push for a solution, massa.

Push again, but this time for an all-embracing national non-discriminatory solution.

Bhai

I politely disagree. The PNC has damaged race relations to a point where the country is even more polarized and the level of mistrust is at an all time high.

The PPP is now reaching out to blacks and it appears that the PPP will ensure that blacks are an equal partner in 2020. A win win for Guyana and the PPP.

My comment about not voting for the PNC again is not in any way inaccurate since you and I have seen what they are capable of doing.

In fact, it would be best for Blacks to form another party (Like Moses did to the PPP) to foster their interests and have a bigger say in the PPP government.

Times are changing, we are in for a big surprise as the PPP is poised for another majority. This is the best opportunity to start reaching out to Blacks ahead of 2020. It is all about planning and timing in politics.

Rammo was a political dunce. Jagdeo on the other hand, is a very intelligent politician. 

 

 

FM
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