This Government seems to give away parts of the country to whomever they please, now they are selling the country to the Chinese. Come on guys, is this the party for the working people?

... so many things.

It never ceases to amaze that we put up with this sort of insult from the PPP as they direct the people's money into the pockets of unknown "investors" who will only become known to the people when it's too late and the 'Facts on The Ground' are set in concrete.

smh

 I dare say these are some truly brazenly corrupt pricks  The PNC could not dream up so many crooked schemes in so short a time as these crooks.

That is how them china chinaman does operate.  Everyone employed particularly in management is either Chinese or white.  No darkie need to apply.

The Chinese are notorious for only hiring their own and the investors saved $14million USD by agreeing to this. 

which "investors" bai?

Alas, you know so many things that it is difficult to grasp why you consistently make so little sense.  At least you do try.

You are hollow. Prove it and name the investors.

The only reason the Chinese want their people is because they gonna do some slap-dash work and no guyanese will see to complain. When it falls apart they will all be back in china.

Dummy, all humans have a predisposition towards those with whom they are familiar with ie family friends, tribe, ethnicity or countrymen. The irony here is you see it in the Chinese and miss it in our race identified party and so is oblivious to its inherent latent insidiousness when taken to the extremes.

The PPP is a case of the extremes and this is a case of the extremes. They, ( the PPP)  for the sake or preserving the lucrative graft potentials of the project saw not harm in screwing the Guyanese people and allowing this insidious practice by the Chinese that has harmed many nations across the planet. Even to this point we do not know for whom our nation has gone into debt and why has this project begun in light we do not know its "owners"!

Note the component of lack of skill ( insult to injury)  is also in the equation. What if the Indians did it with the stadium? How would it be that American projects did the same thing? Do you think we are to expect any different with the Airport construction or the Hydro project or the lumber park they so recently celebrated as a source of employment for locals no less than this? Where has these people ever hired any of the locals ever unless it is to service them as menial laborers and sex workers?

Note last week they, with no fear of injuring our national pride, openly stated that Chinese merchants are displacing local merchants on account of their greater sense of organization, competitive spirit and fortitude to get ahead by their hard work. No mention that they under sell because they bring in cheap Chinese goods and keep cost below the national minimum and hire only their own. This is again their tried and true strategy to make citizens of client states they loyal lap dogs.

The Guyanese people need to wake up to this reality and understand the context in which they are permitted by their government to be royally screwed this way.

Marriott Hotel project…Guyanese right to work has been sold – opposition MP

 
- demands immediate resignation of Finance Minister, Brassington

Government’s explanation of why no locals were hired in the US$51M Marriott Hotel project in Kingston has drawn sharp reactions with the main opposition party in the National Assembly, leading to calls for the resignation of the Minister of Finance.
A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) Member of Parliament Joseph Harmon, who has responsibility for public works, is now demanding the immediate resignations of Finance Minister, Dr. Ashni Singh, and head of the Atlantic Hotel Inc., Winston Brassington.

Finance Minister, Dr. Ashni Singh

APNU has 26 seats in the National Assembly and together with the Alliance For Change, commands a one seat majority for the Opposition.
On Friday, in wake of growing anger over news that checks at the project found no locals gainfully employed, Brassington in defense said that the contractor, Shanghai Construction Group (SCG), had demanded Chinese labour be used as part of the contract conditionalities.
There have been questions why government was plunging state funds into such a venture, especially as there was no evidence that a feasibility study was ever conducted. While a number of private sector groups have publicly endorsed the project, none of them have reportedly admitted to wanting to invest in it.
Monies, around $2B, were advanced since 2011 and construction began last year but negotiations with the investors are still continuing, a disclosure that is also angering Parliamentarians.
According to Harmon, the country’s laws require that before work permits are granted to foreign nationals, there must be an absence of the skill in Guyana.
“Was there an advertisement for the skills? Is there a shortage of labourers for construction in Guyana?”
The MP said that the claims by Brassington flies in face of the very glaring reality that there is a high rate of unemployment among young people.
“Did this requirement pass over the Minister of Labour or the Minister of Home Affairs and the venerable Attorney General, the champion of constitutional rights?”
The fact that the Board of Directors of Atlantic Hotels Inc. agreed to these conditions should be grounds for their immediate firing, Harmon said.
AHI, a subsidiary of government’s privatization arm, National Industrial and Commercial Investments Limited (NICIL), reportedly includes a number of Government Ministers.

Winston Brassington

“We must not sell the rights of our people for a few million dollars. It would be interesting to note how much has been paid to the National Insurance Scheme and the Guyana Revenue Authority on behalf of these super efficient workers,” Harmon said.
It was exactly in fear of a scenario like this that APNU had supported a motion, requiring all funding by the state to this project be approved by the National Assembly.
“How could we, as a nation, accept that for the construction cost to be lowered, the right of Guyanese to work as guaranteed in the Constitution of Guyana and the Caribbean be frittered away?”
On Friday, Brassington, in an exclusive interview with the state’s news agency, said that the use of a mostly Chinese labour force to construct the multi-million-dollar Marriott Hotel was just one of several conditionalities necessary for the facility’s efficient and speedy construction.
Brassington, who has been under fire as head of NICIL/Privatisation Unit, which manages Government assets, explained that SCG won the bid to construct the hotel from 23 other firms.
Initially, the price was US$65M, “but they were able to lower the cost to US$51M with the condition that they be able to control who they employ on the site,” the release said Friday.
In defending SCG’s decision to hire Chinese nationals, Brassington said that the company indicated that “(it) had examined the level of skills available for the project as well as the levels of productivity.”

APNU’s MP, Joe Harmon

According to government, the hotel when completed will boast 197 rooms, a large ballroom, conference centre, a casino, nightclub, restaurant, a concrete walkway and all other amenities of a world-class hotel.
However, the casino, nightclub and restaurant will be leased to a third party, which will manage them separately.
Government, in defending its decision to build a Marriott Hotel, said there is a shortage of quality rooms in Guyana…a claim that has been denied by hotel owners who said that there are too many empty rooms to justify a new hotel.

Gurdle, you really, really, deep down in your guts, don't think the Chinamen will cut $14M in corners/quality? I mean You don't go importing a workforce (that cost mucho mulla), feed them, house them etc. and then give a 20% discount. We talking about CHINEE businessmen here. You can't even go into a 99cent store and come up short with the tax.

You will never know what you do not know.

So now you have included into your pantheon of delusional beliefs a gift for prophesy!

"“We must not sell the rights of our people for a few million dollars. It would be interesting to note how much has been paid to the National Insurance Scheme and the Guyana Revenue Authority on behalf of these super efficient workers,” Harmon said.
It was exactly in fear of a scenario like this that APNU had supported a motion, requiring all funding by the state to this project be approved by the National Assembly.
“How could we, as a nation, accept that for the construction cost to be lowered, the right of Guyanese to work as guaranteed in the Constitution of Guyana and the Caribbean be frittered away?”"

These filthy political creatures just don't see this.

If Guyanese want five star job they must learn to speak proper English like Stormy.  

it would be an impediment to employment in our own country! I think this is be biggest load of crock that pig eyed fat crook has fed us to date. How in the world can foreigners tell us we cannot be hired in our own country on account of our language? Was Jagdeo lying when he listed the benefits of jobs as a reason for building the Marriott? To date it is only us that has been penalized. First it was the spending of monies into a dark hole to bootstrap unknown investors and how...our language as a problem to employment.

 

 

 

No Guyanese in Marriott’s construction… Language barrier, lack of skills locally were the reasons – Brassington

February 10, 2013 | By KNews | Filed Under News 

AHI’s Winston Brassington

Despite not yet totally sealing the deal with investors, government said that it felt confident, based on negotiations, to have gone ahead with the construction of the US$51M Marriott Hotel.

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The PPP thinks that Mandarin and Hindi shouild be the two official languages of Guyana.  Scrap English and Creolese.

Should not the Chinese bring management and professionals who KNOW English to an English speaking country.

This is total eye pass.

I await to see what the PPP does.  What they never talk about is how many jobs they have created and how the plan to ensure that Guyanese benefit from foreign investment.

Of what use are all those "skills development" programs of which the PPP boasts if Guyanese must flock to Trinidad to use those skills?  Ought not there be some insistents by the govt (given that this is a govt owned hotel) that any foreign investment must facilitate the development of the skills possessed by the labor force.

Or must Guyanese be limited to cleaning rooms, serving food, front desk, and washing dishes (bet the chefs are imported), as most of the management slots will go to foreigners, as Guyanese definitely do not have the skills to run a 3-4 star hotel (which is what Marriott is).

The investors are nor making this decision.  The Chinese are and Brassington...who is part of the OLD Georgetown elite....allows them.

The Marriott is a govt hotel.  Private investors are a facade and as they do not believe that the project is viable, have demanded thatthe govt fully reimburse them if it fails.

next time some young kids shove a gun in his face he will learn that maybe if he ensured that they acquired the skills and get the work they would be more productive citizens.

Is ...

Dragons are what fuels the magic of hope in the hearts of men!

So druggie what are Guyanese to do? The Islanders do not want them as there are no longer jobs in those places.  If you watched Bamazon you would have noted that gold mining isnt an option for most people, unless they have access to funds, and its a very high risk, and potentially low return venture for those who dont.

So here we have an opportunity for Guyanese to find work.  There is sufficient evidence that Guyanese have the skills, as we can see with some of the newer buildings, especially the banks.  This building isnt some elaborate 10 story structure.  If in the 1960s Guyanese workers could have been used to build the Bank of GY and Pegasus why cant they be used now?

Chinese can then be used to fill the gaps unable to be staffed by Guyanese.  Furthermore this would also be an opportunity for Guyanese to upgrade their skills.  Indeed Trinis have carved  a niche in building larger structures in many other islands, based on what they learnt at home.  So why cant Guyanese have the same opportunities?

No this is a scam by a PPP connected Indo elite who are stealing funds from the tax payers.  If the hotel works, they get a return, even though govt bear5 most of the risk.  If it fails they get their money back, so all the losses will be borne by the tax payers.

Tell you what.  If Guyanese lack the skills to build this hotel, they definitely lack the skills to do any but the most menial work, once completed, given that this is the first 3-4 star hotel in Guyana, and most of the other facilities are either small (Cara) or 2 star (Peg and Princess). 

So will you then stand idly by when the "investors" bring in workers from Jca and the Dom Rep, or better yet, the Phillipines, claiming that they have skills and Guyanese dont?

Have I not taught you to show respect to your superiors over the years of drumming sense into your head?

The fact is that this is a business transaction, the Chinese were the lowest bidders and they reduced their price further by agreeing to forgo 14m usd to hire their own. The reasons for using their own varies, people doing the same thing day  in day out tend to be much more efficient. They probably outwork their Guyanese counterparts at a rate of 3 to 1.  Guyanese are know to lime on the job and drag their asses, especially AFC/PnC supporters and are more likely to strike and delay the project. The Chinese are shrewd and their bids were the lowest. 

Now let us look at the US, building costs are artificially inflated due to union wages and all the inefficiencies that unions bring. But even in the US and Canada there is a growing trend to outsource to the lowest bidders. 

I don't engage in gut feelings, just the facts. And the facts say that the Chinese were the lowest bidders for the project and they reduced their price by 14M US to employ their own, any shrewd business organization would have taken that deal. 

And I can't blame them, with the Chinese workers, they have an obedient workforce who will take abuse and not complain, evidenced by all the mundane manufacturing being done in China. 

NICIL is not govt so there is no obligation to "do the right thing" by hiring inefficient Guyanese (afc/pnc supporters) who will strike and engage in sabotage a the behest of their leaders just to see this project fail. Thinking about it, I am convinced that shutting out the AFC/PNC workers from this project was the right thing to do, they would be doing their beat to destroy the development in the nation. 

"But even in the US and Canada there is a growing trend to outsource to the lowest bidders. "

They do not use Chinese labourers and say the reason for this is because the price is lower and there will be some problem understanding the language, never, that's a copout the PPP Govt used.

Anything Chinese built is garbage. Maybe in three years the hotel will fall over, hopefully by then Gurdle and his drug running team would be in there using the laundromat to..ahem...wash some money when this occurs.

They do fool, who makes the iphone and most goods flowing into the US????

You heard what I said? They make shit, got it?

How long will that stupid Iphone last before something else comes up and so the ball rolls. Nothing built by the Chinese lasts any length of time and you have to be a fool to think otherwise.

You are the only person that sees the iphone as shit.  People have been saying that for years but the Chinese continue to be the choice manufacturer for most electronic products. 

Reality is different from your magic. 

Could someone please explain what was said here, Thanks?

What I understand is: I am the only person who calls the iphone crap

          : Others have been saying the same for years.

Talk about confusion in de house.

the only person you will ever get to be authoritative over is you child. You are too lame brained for anyone to let you in charge over anything.

This is an unfair transaction offered the Chinese by a corrupt government. It is disrespectful to our people and I hope they are asked to answer for it come elections time.

the rest of the pose is simply silly chattering so I wont bother reading.

 Apple has put severe sanction as to who they can hire similar to US law. Further, the Iphone is assembled there. It's main components are US made. Apple are on the verge of bringing back a large part of their fabrication infrastructure back home. China is only marginally cheaper these days

Since you can't comprehend I will spell it out. People like you  have been saying that the Chinese build garbage but yet their market share continue to increase as most technology companies move their operations to China to leverage the lower cost and rapid retooling for new products that the Chinese can offer. 

Apple sanctions my butt, they go to the lowest bidder to gain the most profit, Apple is driven by money not compassion. If you believe they are mother Theresa then you have really gone to the dogs.

Apple have no plans on bringing their operation back to the US, they only do a small part for show to appease Obama.  The mother board is made in the US by "MACHINES" not human, everything else up to the glass covering is manufactured overseas. 

The glass for Apple iPhones and iPads is made in Kentucky.

And cut in China. 

 Corporations have a persona. Apple's persona is functional, efficient, effective and necessary. To maintain that they must ensure the myth making matches its reality. Of late they have decided they will only do business with those companies following a principled workplace ethic its customers would think is reasonable and fair. As such they just revamped their policies to exclude even students. It is not remotely about your ridiculous analogy about Mother Theresa. It is about authentic branding.