This promise is too far-fetched not knowing what the future hold for the PPP three years from today. 

The sugar workers can rely on Yuji and others who are claiming landslide victory for the PPP. 

Hold on. Who does sugar workers vote for anyway?   The PPP needs broader appeal. BJ left some low hanging fruits for the PNC to pick off now he coming back with his own low hanging fruit.  He is tainted by his own history.  PPP needs a new torch bearer!  Only a dummy or sucker will fall for this cheap sh1t. But wtf, a sucker is born or discovered everyday!!

Now this is what you call a caring leader . Unlike the APNU+AFC Coalition  
We must remember that the PPP/C gov't also took care of the bauxite workers when the PPP took power in 1992 and found that the PNC gov't bought the bauxite industry to its knees and the bauxite workers were about to loss their jobs .
The PPP gov't helped the bauxite workers by subsidizing their electricity bill .This help is still in effect unto today even as the bauxite industry has been brought back on its feet .
This is how a gov't should treat all Guyanese , not firing Indians from their jobs and replacing them with your supporters and dumping 4,000 sugar workers ,because they are from PPP stronghold ,without any help for them to get another job .

Dave posted:

This is how a gov't should treat all Guyanese , not firing Indians from their jobs and replacing them with your supporters and dumping 4,000 sugar workers ,because they are from PPP stronghold ,without any help for them to get another job .

About 5,000 when we include sacked workers of Wales Estate. Not only Indians; hundreds of Afros too. 

Gilbakka posted:

Dave posted:

This is how a gov't should treat all Guyanese , not firing Indians from their jobs and replacing them with your supporters and dumping 4,000 sugar workers ,because they are from PPP stronghold ,without any help for them to get another job .

About 5,000 when we include sacked workers of Wales Estate. Not only Indians; hundreds of Afros too. 

Thanks for the correction Gil.

Dave posted:

Now this is what you call a caring leader . Unlike the APNU+AFC Coalition  
We must remember that the PPP/C gov't also took care of the bauxite workers when the PPP took power in 1992 and found that the PNC gov't bought the bauxite industry to its knees and the bauxite workers were about to loss their jobs .
The PPP gov't helped the bauxite workers by subsidizing their electricity bill .This help is still in effect unto today even as the bauxite industry has been brought back on its feet .
This is how a gov't should treat all Guyanese , not firing Indians from their jobs and replacing them with your supporters and dumping 4,000 sugar workers ,because they are from PPP stronghold ,without any help for them to get another job .

Exactly.

A few Indo Crabdawgs are cheering and supporting the AFC/PNC while 5000 Indos and their families suffer.

Moses and Ramjattan lied to them and Granger was the biggest liar. Remember the line "Sugar is too important to close it down ?"

Jagdeo is trying to buy votes. He is braying through his rear end. That will never happen. Even if they do win after 4 months they will say they have no more money to give out. 

BTW does Guyana have anything like unemployment insurance benefits like we do in Canada?

Amral posted:

Jagdeo is trying to buy votes. He is braying through his rear end. That will never happen. Even if they do win after 4 months they will say they have no more money to give out. 

BTW does Guyana have anything like unemployment insurance benefits like we do in Canada?

Three answers to the three parts above - No. No. And No.

Don't think they have unemployment insurance.

Some of the funds in the 18million escrow account should be used to pay the Sugar Workers good severances and pay the Public Service Workers the bonus they were denied this year.  These two issues need addressing before the National Security Issue that Granger lied he put away the money for.

alena06 posted:

Don't think they have unemployment insurance.

Some of the funds in the 18million escrow account should be used to pay the Sugar Workers good severances and pay the Public Service Workers the bonus they were denied this year.  These two issues need addressing before the National Security Issue that Granger lied he put away the money for.

 

Well said. 

Dave posted:

Now this is what you call a caring leader . Unlike the APNU+AFC Coalition  
We must remember that the PPP/C gov't also took care of the bauxite workers when the PPP took power in 1992 and found that the PNC gov't bought the bauxite industry to its knees and the bauxite workers were about to loss their jobs .
The PPP gov't helped the bauxite workers by subsidizing their electricity bill .This help is still in effect unto today even as the bauxite industry has been brought back on its feet .
This is how a gov't should treat all Guyanese , not firing Indians from their jobs and replacing them with your supporters and dumping 4,000 sugar workers ,because they are from PPP stronghold ,without any help for them to get another job .

Read this article are the laid of Sugar workers abandoned ?

https://guyana.crowdstack.io/topic/su...mployment-on-horizon

Amral posted:

Jagdeo is trying to buy votes.

All politicians do that, frankly. In 2015 Granger had promised sugar workers 20 percent pay hike if APNU+AFC won the election. Granger didn't tell them he would close down 4 estates. Sugar workers never saw that promised 20 percent and they didn't get their customary end-of-year Annual Production Incentive for 2015, 2016 and 2017.

Mitwah posted:

alena06 posted:

Don't think they have unemployment insurance.

Some of the funds in the 18million escrow account should be used to pay the Sugar Workers good severances and pay the Public Service Workers the bonus they were denied this year.  These two issues need addressing before the National Security Issue that Granger lied he put away the money for.

 

Well said. 

That is why Granger and his boys were hiding the money. Just plain wicked in not sharing it with the Indian citizenry.

Prince posted:

This promise is too far-fetched not knowing what the future hold for the PPP three years from today. 

The sugar workers can rely on Yuji and others who are claiming landslide victory for the PPP. 

Jagdeo is compassionate, humble and a CHAMPION of the Earth and the Working Class.

Sugar workers will get their severance – President

-says mega estates being created.

December 17,2017

Source

With 4,000 GuySuCo employees already in receipt of layoff letters, President David Granger on Friday assured that they will get their severance pay and said that the sugar industry is not closing.

“As far as retrenchment benefits or the termination benefits are concerned, the government is responsible for ensuring that the Sugar Corporation fulfils its obligation to the workers,” Granger told a press conference at the Ministry of the Presidency.

Next year’s budget has a $6B allocation for GuySuCo while the severance to workers is estimated at some $5B.

In a statement he read at the press conference, he said that the sugar industry was not closing and that government was looking at ways of making it viable by creating mega estates of the three they are keeping.

“The sugar industry is not shutting down, it is being consolidated and we hope to have three mega estates; one in East Berbice, one in West Berbice and one in West Demerara, and we want to make those three mega estates viable and profitable…The government is pursuing every option and every opportunity to ensure it is a viable industry, mindful of its impact on the rural economy and of course the rural population,” he added.

Asked why a transition plan was not in put in place for the workers that would be retrenched this year, Granger said that there were many factors.

He said that in the context of the sugar industry, there are four major institutions to be considered. These are GuySuCo, government which has the Ministry of Agriculture as its representative and is reporting on the issue, the workers and their unions and civil society.

“As far as the plan is concerned there needs to be a lot more work by the fourth agency which I can call the SPU (Special Purpose Unit – which comes under the Ministry of Finance- and that is the agency that will be responsible for ensuring the smooth transition for those parts of the industry which would not be remaining in production under the Guyana Sugar Corporation,” he said.

“I would say that the work of the SPU is still being done. They are in negotiation with foreign investors and I expect that before too long we will have a plan which will explain in detail how the lands will be disposed of,” he added.

Sources have told Stabroek News that potential investors understand that if they purchase the estate assets they are being sold as going concerns where GuySuCo would not be forced to halt its operations and liquidate its assets. Instead if there were a sugar crop still being grown it would mature and be reaped and processed as per norm.

The Special Purpose Unit had planned to collect from GuySuCo the list of persons that were terminated so that some of them would have been re-employed by the SPU to keep the factories going.

Instead, GuySuCo issued some 4,000 letters and is in the process of dispatching more.

The Corporation’s Public Relations Officer, Audreyanna Thomas, told Stabroek News that while GuySuCo can confirm that 4,000 letters had been sent out as at Thursday of last week, they still do not have a breakdown of numbers for which estates the letters were sent.

One government source said that the SPU would now have to rehire to plant a crop

“They will have to get money to do some planting in the fields to show investors that the sector is viable, that the factories are working and so on”, the source said.

“It is unclear if after that process what the new buyers will do as it pertains to employees and if the SPU will recommend that some of the workers be further kept on,” the source added

alena06 posted:

Don't think they have unemployment insurance.

Some of the funds in the 18million escrow account should be used to pay the Sugar Workers good severances and pay the Public Service Workers the bonus they were denied this year.  These two issues need addressing before the National Security Issue that Granger lied he put away the money for.

 

Granger and his bunch of thieves know they can FOOL their supporters both here and at home!!

Al YUh see we keeping the money safe for Al YUh and they say Yes Massa you keep it safe even if we dont know where it is.

DUMB and DUMBER relationship.

some of us have short memories of the promises to sugar workers by AFC . I also blame PPP , it’s a pity they didn’t take advantage while in government to protect the workers livelihood.... there is a second chance !!! hope they learn from their mistakes .

Quote below from Anil .

2015 Elections
As 2015 elections approached, again the political song and dance changed. A hypocritical hand of goodwill was extended by the APNU/AFC coalition to the sugar workers in order to get their votes. This diabolical agenda, again, was led by Mr. Moses Nagamootoo. Mr. Khemraj Ramjattan, was a close second. At the Whim Rally, Mr. Ramjattan promised no closure of estates but new management and an economic turnaround for the sugar industry. The sugar workers are generally a trusting people and again hundreds of them fell victim of the fraud. They voted for the coalition.
When the first bumper crop came soon after the elections, Mr. Moses Nagamootoo, in an act of incomparable guile, took credit for and on behalf of the coalition Government. He proclaimed the beginning of a new vista for the sugar industry. However, when the next crop produced recording-breaking low outputs, the stories of doom resurfaced about the sugar industry. Scorn and disdain were poured upon the sugar workers and they were portrayed to other workers as parasites, living-off the blood and sweat of those other workers. It was a naked and malicious strategy of dividing the working class along the lines of politics and race.
Suddenly, the sugar in- dustry and its workers became the greatest burden on the backs of taxpayers. The sustenance, which the sugar industry provided to this nation and its people for over 300 years, was obliterated. The use of billions of dollars from the sugar levy, extracted from the real wages of the sugar workers and pumped into the bauxite industry to keep it alive for nearly two decades in order to provide a livelihood for tens of thousands in Linden, Ituni and Kwakwani, was vaporised. The sugar workers and their unions were made the object of such ridicule that not only were they deprived of their Annual Production Incentive (API), but also they did not benefit from a dollar in wage increase, while employees from every other state sector enjoyed annual increases by a minimum of 5%. When the unions attempted to negotiate a wage increase, they were told that Guysuco was actively considering a decrease in wages!

Baseman posted:

Hold on. Who does sugar workers vote for anyway?   

I was wondering of anyone was smart enough to get that.  He already has their votes.

Jagdeo was screaming the other day about Linden. He did NOT offer monthly salaries until other jobs were found for the 80% of bauxite workers who became unemployed.

Dave posted:

The PPP gov't helped the bauxite workers by subsidizing their electricity bill .

He did NOT pay for their rent, for their food, for their transportation, and all the other expenses that he now claims that he will offer laid off sugar workers.  

And the Chinese BOSAI is the biggest beneficiary of this cheap electricity!

Gilbakka posted:

Amral posted:

Jagdeo is trying to buy votes.

All politicians do that, frankly. In 2015 Granger had promised sugar workers 20 percent pay hike if APNU+AFC won the election. Granger didn't tell them he would close down 4 estates. Sugar workers never saw that promised 20 percent and they didn't get their customary end-of-year Annual Production Incentive for 2015, 2016 and 2017.

Sugar workers didn't vote for Granger. They will vote for Jagdeo who destroyed the sugar industry.

Amral posted:

Jagdeo is trying to buy votes. He is braying through his rear end. That will never happen. Even if they do win after 4 months they will say they have no more money to give out. 

BTW does Guyana have anything like unemployment insurance benefits like we do in Canada?

As I said, a sucker is born or discovered everyday.  Didn’t GAWU had some fights with the PPP govt??

caribny posted:

Dave posted:

The PPP gov't helped the bauxite workers by subsidizing their electricity bill .

He did NOT pay for their rent, for their food, for their transportation, and all the other expenses that he now claims that he will offer laid off sugar workers.  

And the Chinese BOSAI is the biggest beneficiary of this cheap electricity!

Politicians promise , you na know how them a do am 

lets not run away from the facts that Linden was paying $12-15 per kilo watt hour while the rest of the nation was paying $68. Suddenly the electricity cheap what Linden consume ... look story hay  .. church say hallelujah to  Carib statements 

caribny posted:

Gilbakka posted:

Amral posted:

Jagdeo is trying to buy votes.

All politicians do that, frankly. In 2015 Granger had promised sugar workers 20 percent pay hike if APNU+AFC won the election. Granger didn't tell them he would close down 4 estates. Sugar workers never saw that promised 20 percent and they didn't get their customary end-of-year Annual Production Incentive for 2015, 2016 and 2017.

Sugar workers didn't vote for Granger. They will vote for Jagdeo who destroyed the sugar industry.

You must be stressing out when you think of this.

Correct Skelly.

I imagine how Moses and the AFC are stressing. They will have ZERO votes in the sugar and rice belts. They are scared shyte to face sugar workers.

They can be seen hiding daily under Granger's skirt. It looks good on them.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Amral posted:

Jagdeo is trying to buy votes. He is braying through his rear end. That will never happen. Even if they do win after 4 months they will say they have no more money to give out. 

BTW does Guyana have anything like unemployment insurance benefits like we do in Canada?

Three answers to the three parts above - No. No. And No.

People have been losing jobs due to various economic changes for years. How come the Socialist PPP and your toy boy never developed some type of social safety net during their 23 year to support these transitions?  He now suddenly have all the answers!  Guyana had been peppered with abject poverty during the PPP, and yes there was a lot of wealth created too.  But lots of poverty!

credibility lacking and let’s hope any new leader is not his poodle.  Given the fact that he dominates the headlines I don’t see a new leader who is not under his shadow!!

its already half way thru this term and all you see and hear is the old cabal. This new leader has to rise, show himself as his own person not beholden to Jaggy cabal, rebrand the PPP and expand the base.  I may be wrong, but I don’t see it happening, not yet.  But I wait and see.

Dave posted:

caribny posted:

Dave posted:

The PPP gov't helped the bauxite workers by subsidizing their electricity bill .

He did NOT pay for their rent, for their food, for their transportation, and all the other expenses that he now claims that he will offer laid off sugar workers.  

And the Chinese BOSAI is the biggest beneficiary of this cheap electricity!

Politicians promise , you na know how them a do am 

 

 

I see that Indians deserve to have their rent/mortgage, food, transportation, clothing, education, etc., covered but blacks don't deserve this.

Jagdeo should promise cheap electricity and nothing more unless he wishes to be exposed as the racist that we all know that he is!

yuji22 posted:

Correct Skelly.

I imagine how Moses and the AFC are stressing. They will have ZERO votes in the sugar and rice belts. They are scared shyte to face sugar workers.

They can be seen hiding daily under Granger's skirt. It looks good on them.

They already received almost zero votes in 2015, which is why the PNC and the Trotman faction of the AFC bytched slapped them after the election.

Talk about feeding animals and then they Bore Yuh plate!!!!!!!!!

Baseman posted:.

People have been losing jobs due to various economic changes for years. How come the Socialist PPP and your toy boy never developed some type of social safety net during their 23 year to support these transitions?  He now suddenly have all the answers!  Guyana had been peppered with abject poverty during the PPP, and yes there was a lot of wealth created too.  But lots of poverty!

.

In fact after 2000 when economic growth slowed, and income inequality became even worse than it was before, tens of thousands of Guyanese descended on volcanic peaks, coral reefs as well as Trinidad.  They arrived desperate for work and accepted 40% LESS than did local workers, most doing jobs that the locals didn't want.

So I laugh when PPP frauds pretend as if our current miasma just started.  Guyana has been in a death spiral since Burnham decided to turn communist.

caribny posted:

Dave posted:

caribny posted:

Dave posted:

The PPP gov't helped the bauxite workers by subsidizing their electricity bill .

He did NOT pay for their rent, for their food, for their transportation, and all the other expenses that he now claims that he will offer laid off sugar workers.  

And the Chinese BOSAI is the biggest beneficiary of this cheap electricity!

Politicians promise , you na know how them a do am 

 

 

I see that Indians deserve to have their rent/mortgage, food, transportation, clothing, education, etc., covered but blacks don't deserve this.

Jagdeo should promise cheap electricity and nothing more unless he wishes to be exposed as the racist that we all know that he is!

when them bais with the white bed sheet come for u tell them u want all these benefits 

Nehru posted:

Talk about feeding animals and then they Bore Yuh plate!!!!!!!!!

I know.

Caribj needs to still embrace the idea that Indian ppl are the builders of the economy.

Our kith and kin needs to be taken care of .

Baseman posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Amral posted:

Jagdeo is trying to buy votes. He is braying through his rear end. That will never happen. Even if they do win after 4 months they will say they have no more money to give out. 

BTW does Guyana have anything like unemployment insurance benefits like we do in Canada?

Three answers to the three parts above - No. No. And No.

People have been losing jobs due to various economic changes for years. How come the Socialist PPP and your toy boy never developed some type of social safety net during their 23 year to support these transitions?  He now suddenly have all the answers!  Guyana had been peppered with abject poverty during the PPP, and yes there was a lot of wealth created too.  But lots of poverty!

credibility lacking and let’s hope any new leader is not his poodle.  Given the fact that he dominates the headlines I don’t see a new leader who is not under his shadow!!

its already half way thru this term and all you see and hear is the old cabal. This new leader has to rise, show himself as his own person not beholden to Jaggy cabal, rebrand the PPP and expand the base.  I may be wrong, but I don’t see it happening, not yet.  But I wait and see.

Somehow, I am getting mix feeling of you, not so long ago you were supporting the opposition. Today you are using GNI to display your "love ,hate" relationship with Bibi, and thus forced to criticize the PPP because of her alliance. You guys stop spreading you dutty laundry in the public, behave like mature adults.

seignet posted:

Nehru posted:

Talk about feeding animals and then they Bore Yuh plate!!!!!!!!!

I know.

Caribj needs to still embrace the idea that Indian ppl are the builders of the economy.

Our kith and kin needs to be taken care of .

AAh, yes. Black man lazy!!   The PPP/ Indo KKK theme song.

warrior posted:

caribny posted:

Dave posted:

caribny posted:

Dave posted:

The PPP gov't helped the bauxite workers by subsidizing their electricity bill .

He did NOT pay for their rent, for their food, for their transportation, and all the other expenses that he now claims that he will offer laid off sugar workers.  

And the Chinese BOSAI is the biggest beneficiary of this cheap electricity!

Politicians promise , you na know how them a do am 

 

 

I see that Indians deserve to have their rent/mortgage, food, transportation, clothing, education, etc., covered but blacks don't deserve this.

Jagdeo should promise cheap electricity and nothing more unless he wishes to be exposed as the racist that we all know that he is!

when them bais with the white bed sheet come for u tell them u want all these benefits 

If you can work hard, integrate yourself in society, then you don't have anything to worry about. I have lived most of my life here and have never been threatened. So take your white bed sheet and spread on your bed. 

caribny posted:

Baseman posted:

Hold on. Who does sugar workers vote for anyway?   

I was wondering of anyone was smart enough to get that.

Baseman!!!!

 I returned here reluctantly to defend my name against b1tch liar Bibi.  Then I saw the board was dead and boring so I stuck around! 

But Carib, the PNC is falling far short.  How come you not bussing dem ass over growing corruption.  Carib, a corrupt government hurts everyone.  Black people gon suffer bad too. Why don’t you come on board with the PPP to control the PNC drift to corruptocratism?  I’m sure Bibi will welcome you with a hug and kiss and get you a seat 💺 next to her and BJ.  PPP needs diversity bad bad. 

skeldon_man posted:

warrior posted:

caribny posted:

Dave posted:

caribny posted:

Dave posted:

The PPP gov't helped the bauxite workers by subsidizing their electricity bill .

He did NOT pay for their rent, for their food, for their transportation, and all the other expenses that he now claims that he will offer laid off sugar workers.  

And the Chinese BOSAI is the biggest beneficiary of this cheap electricity!

Politicians promise , you na know how them a do am 

 

 

I see that Indians deserve to have their rent/mortgage, food, transportation, clothing, education, etc., covered but blacks don't deserve this.

Jagdeo should promise cheap electricity and nothing more unless he wishes to be exposed as the racist that we all know that he is!

when them bais with the white bed sheet come for u tell them u want all these benefits 

If you can work hard, integrate yourself in society, then you don't have anything to worry about. I have lived most of my life here and have never been threatened. So take your white bed sheet and spread on your bed. 

Watax .

kp posted:

Baseman posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Amral posted:

Jagdeo is trying to buy votes. He is braying through his rear end. That will never happen. Even if they do win after 4 months they will say they have no more money to give out. 

BTW does Guyana have anything like unemployment insurance benefits like we do in Canada?

Three answers to the three parts above - No. No. And No.

People have been losing jobs due to various economic changes for years. How come the Socialist PPP and your toy boy never developed some type of social safety net during their 23 year to support these transitions?  He now suddenly have all the answers!  Guyana had been peppered with abject poverty during the PPP, and yes there was a lot of wealth created too.  But lots of poverty!

credibility lacking and let’s hope any new leader is not his poodle.  Given the fact that he dominates the headlines I don’t see a new leader who is not under his shadow!!

its already half way thru this term and all you see and hear is the old cabal. This new leader has to rise, show himself as his own person not beholden to Jaggy cabal, rebrand the PPP and expand the base.  I may be wrong, but I don’t see it happening, not yet.  But I wait and see.

Somehow, I am getting mix feeling of you, not so long ago you were supporting the opposition. Today you are using GNI to display your "love ,hate" relationship with Bibi, and thus forced to criticize the PPP because of her alliance. You guys stop spreading you dutty laundry in the public, behave like mature adults.

I love the PPP and want them back I. Power.  But we need new leadership. 

Yes, I looooove 🌹🌹❤️❤️❤️❤️ Bibi too. She wanted me back here next to her so I grant her wish. Always did!  I just hate when she lies!!

Baseman posted:

caribny posted:

 

But Carib, the PNC is falling far short.  How come you not bussing dem ass over growing corruption.  . 

If you read my comments about the PNC they address corruption, incompetence and racism. AND the Burnham constitution which Jagdeo is so proud of.

The fact remains that GNI is a nest of PPP vipers so my comments are addressed to them.  If the Indo KKK didn't chase the vast majority of black identified people away and some remained defending the PNC I would be dealing with them as well.

In the ancient days when there were still PNC loyalists on GNI they used to tell me that I should slick back my hair and go crawl to Indians to suck them off and that I should show gratitude to Burnham "for all he did for me".  This because I called Burnham a monster who destroyed black people.

Well those left as did the moderate blacks like Itaname and others.  Yes blacks who tried intelligent and objective analysis but just couldn't spend their time confronting the majority of the posters here whose views of blacks mirror that of Trump and the KKK.

Not so long ago, unless we have shallow memory, the APNU/AFC were making big,big promises,  20% wage hikes, jobs securities, crime reduction, better deals for rice farmers and sugar workers, on and on. Well some how they misplaced their notes and Jagdeo  found them, he is repeating line by line. So if it worked for the PNC it can work for the PPP, the people in Guyana are still the same, they are suckers for political beating.