Why Mark Zuckerberg is betting millions on this Indian teacher

No need to clap baseman.  This has nothing to do with you.

Oh rass....Carib is more of a dalit than baseman..

caribny posted:

No need to clap baseman.  This has nothing to do with you.

and even less to do with you!!

You ethnic cleanse Indians and clap, you even driving out the Indians who tried to settle in Guyana recently.

I will clap, and you can go to hell, you bigot!

caribny posted:

No need to clap baseman.  This has nothing to do with you.

Indians mean nothing to you black KKK. Shows your racist feelings.

ba$eman posted:

caribny posted:

No need to clap baseman.  This has nothing to do with you.

and even less to do with you!!

 

Interesting in Queens Indians and Indo Guyanese live next to each other yet rarely mix.  Despite the gushing adoration that folks like you have for them.

Go on and live vicariously through the very people who don't see what you have to do with them.

skeldon_man posted:

caribny posted:

No need to clap baseman.  This has nothing to do with you.

Indians mean nothing to you black KKK. Shows your racist feelings.

Explain what is racist about explaining the fact that Asian Indians think very poorly of folks like you.  They see Caribbean Indians as being underperformers.

Now I know that your self esteem means that you need to live vicariously through them. They laugh at you.

caribny posted:

skeldon_man posted:

caribny posted:

No need to clap baseman.  This has nothing to do with you.

Indians mean nothing to you black KKK. Shows your racist feelings.

Explain what is racist about explaining the fact that Asian Indians think very poorly of folks like you.  Now I know that your self esteem means that you need to live vicariously through them. They laugh at you.

Indians feel those who were taken to the Caribbean mixed with blackman, and so are defiled and not pure as the driven snow. I asked some of them and this was the answer!

Leonora posted:

caribny posted:

skeldon_man posted:

caribny posted:

No need to clap baseman.  This has nothing to do with you.

Indians mean nothing to you black KKK. Shows your racist feelings.

Explain what is racist about explaining the fact that Asian Indians think very poorly of folks like you.  Now I know that your self esteem means that you need to live vicariously through them. They laugh at you.

Indians feel those who were taken to the Caribbean mixed with blackman, and so are defiled and not pure as the driven snow. I asked some of them and this was the answer!

I have no respect for the Indians from India. I have seen them scorn other Indians from Uganda too. The Indian who told you that is probably in the caste that has the world laughing at their caste system.

caribny posted:

skeldon_man posted:

caribny posted:

No need to clap baseman.  This has nothing to do with you.

Indians mean nothing to you black KKK. Shows your racist feelings.

Explain what is racist about explaining the fact that Asian Indians think very poorly of folks like you.  They see Caribbean Indians as being underperformers.

Now I know that your self esteem means that you need to live vicariously through them. They laugh at you.

Asian Indians in the US are not monolithic.

The tech savvy ones are from mostly the South (Karnataka and Andhra Pradesh). They have no pre-notions about Indians in the Caribbean, Southern Africa, Fiji or East Africa. These folks are mostly in NJ and scattered in Queens.

The Punjabi (both Sikhs and non-Sikhs) are a lot in South Richmond hill and they are mostly into businesses like real estate, auto-repairs and taxi. They are very liberal in their thinking.

The Gujuratis are mostly in Jackson Heights and are into commerce  a lot (like jewelry). 

The medical and financial sectors have Indians from the south and the western Indian States. their disposition would be based on economic status and education.

I think that notion of cultural disparagement of the West Indian Indians is outmoded in the millennial age, especially with mixing in the classrooms and some inter-marriage. Class, customs and religion may still be there but are diminished somewhat in prejudices by one to the other.

Leonora posted:

caribny posted:

skeldon_man posted:

caribny posted:

No need to clap baseman.  This has nothing to do with you.

Indians mean nothing to you black KKK. Shows your racist feelings.

Explain what is racist about explaining the fact that Asian Indians think very poorly of folks like you.  Now I know that your self esteem means that you need to live vicariously through them. They laugh at you.

Indians feel those who were taken to the Caribbean mixed with blackman, and so are defiled and not pure as the driven snow. I asked some of them and this was the answer!

You're being simplistic. Life is not so black and white (or brown ). That's an intellectual short cut. I'm proud of my West Indian Indian-ness and my Asian India heritage (including Afghan and Persian lineage).

skeldon_man posted:

Leonora posted:

caribny posted:

skeldon_man posted:

caribny posted:

No need to clap baseman.  This has nothing to do with you.

Indians mean nothing to you black KKK. Shows your racist feelings.

Explain what is racist about explaining the fact that Asian Indians think very poorly of folks like you.  Now I know that your self esteem means that you need to live vicariously through them. They laugh at you.

Indians feel those who were taken to the Caribbean mixed with blackman, and so are defiled and not pure as the driven snow. I asked some of them and this was the answer!

I have no respect for the Indians from India. I have seen them scorn other Indians from Uganda too. The Indian who told you that is probably in the caste that has the world laughing at their caste system.

The caste system is not as dominant in their thinking as it was even 2 decades ago. Awake from your fossilized thinking. You probably encounter only a select few Indians. Go out there in the world and mix with them to see who they are. Travel to India too and see how you're treated.

Kari posted:

caribny posted:

skeldon_man posted:

caribny posted:

No need to clap baseman.  This has nothing to do with you.

Indians mean nothing to you black KKK. Shows your racist feelings.

Explain what is racist about explaining the fact that Asian Indians think very poorly of folks like you.  They see Caribbean Indians as being underperformers.

Now I know that your self esteem means that you need to live vicariously through them. They laugh at you.

Asian Indians in the US are not monolithic.

The tech savvy ones are from mostly the South (Karnataka and Andhra Pradesh). They have no pre-notions about Indians in the Caribbean, Southern Africa, Fiji or East Africa. These folks are mostly in NJ and scattered in Queens.

The Punjabi (both Sikhs and non-Sikhs) are a lot in South Richmond hill and they are mostly into businesses like real estate, auto-repairs and taxi. They are very liberal in their thinking.

The Gujuratis are mostly in Jackson Heights and are into commerce  a lot (like jewelry). 

The medical and financial sectors have Indians from the south and the western Indian States. their disposition would be based on economic status and education.

I think that notion of cultural disparagement of the West Indian Indians is outmoded in the millennial age, especially with mixing in the classrooms and some inter-marriage. Class, customs and religion may still be there but are diminished somewhat in prejudices by one to the other.

This time I have to agree with Kari.  I know many Indians who are married to indo Guyanese, and you are correct, schools are the melting pot and they tend they respect and ssociate based on economic status and education.

Caribj is just a racist dunda-head who hates Indians but pretend to like Indias who disparage other Indians.  And BTW Caribj, these divisions also exist among Indians in India and like in the USA, the Universities and Urban setting become the melting pot!  

Kari posted:

skeldon_man posted:

Leonora posted:

caribny posted:

Explain what is racist about explaining the fact that Asian Indians think very poorly of folks like you.  Now I know that your self esteem means that you need to live vicariously through them. They laugh at you.

Indians feel those who were taken to the Caribbean mixed with blackman, and so are defiled and not pure as the driven snow. I asked some of them and this was the answer!

I have no respect for the Indians from India. I have seen them scorn other Indians from Uganda too. The Indian who told you that is probably in the caste that has the world laughing at their caste system.

The caste system is not as dominant in their thinking as it was even 2 decades ago. Awake from your fossilized thinking. You probably encounter only a select few Indians. Go out there in the world and mix with them to see who they are. Travel to India too and see how you're treated.

Again, I agree.  My experience there taught me a lot about Indians in India.  And just don't look at a man's pretty wife fully in her face and you will be ok.

ba$eman posted:

Kari posted:

skeldon_man posted:

Leonora posted:

caribny posted:

Explain what is racist about explaining the fact that Asian Indians think very poorly of folks like you.  Now I know that your self esteem means that you need to live vicariously through them. They laugh at you.

Indians feel those who were taken to the Caribbean mixed with blackman, and so are defiled and not pure as the driven snow. I asked some of them and this was the answer!

I have no respect for the Indians from India. I have seen them scorn other Indians from Uganda too. The Indian who told you that is probably in the caste that has the world laughing at their caste system.

The caste system is not as dominant in their thinking as it was even 2 decades ago. Awake from your fossilized thinking. You probably encounter only a select few Indians. Go out there in the world and mix with them to see who they are. Travel to India too and see how you're treated.

Again, I agree.  My experience there taught me a lot about Indians in India.  And just don't look at a man's pretty wife fully in her face and you will be ok.

You seem to think that most Indians have no prejudices. As early as the 70s, the Indians did not want anything to do with anyone other than their own. We use to go to the University of Minnesota to watch Indian movies and they would move if the person sitting by them did not speak Hindi. The South Indians are different from the rest of them.  I worked with a couple of Indians who also worked in Saudi Arabia and Dubai and they seem to throw out the "scorn" attitude. Indians are Indians in America and they will behave the same way they do in their country...caste comes first

skeldon_man posted:

You seem to think that most Indians have no prejudices. As early as the 70s, the Indians did not want anything to do with anyone other than their own. We use to go to the University of Minnesota to watch Indian movies and they would move if the person sitting by them did not speak Hindi. The South Indians are different from the rest of them.  I worked with a couple of Indians who also worked in Saudi Arabia and Dubai and they seem to throw out the "scorn" attitude. Indians are Indians in America and they will behave the same way they do in their country...caste comes first

....poor you.........pity you.........your fossilized notion (bubble) is just like those old folks who left Guyana a while back and have the same view of the PPP and PNC (hehehe...we keep coming back to these two)

skeldon_man posted:

ba$eman posted:

Kari posted:

skeldon_man posted:

I have no respect for the Indians from India. I have seen them scorn other Indians from Uganda too. The Indian who told you that is probably in the caste that has the world laughing at their caste system.

The caste system is not as dominant in their thinking as it was even 2 decades ago. Awake from your fossilized thinking. You probably encounter only a select few Indians. Go out there in the world and mix with them to see who they are. Travel to India too and see how you're treated.

Again, I agree.  My experience there taught me a lot about Indians in India.  And just don't look at a man's pretty wife fully in her face and you will be ok.

You seem to think that most Indians have no prejudices. As early as the 70s, the Indians did not want anything to do with anyone other than their own. We use to go to the University of Minnesota to watch Indian movies and they would move if the person sitting by them did not speak Hindi. The South Indians are different from the rest of them.  I worked with a couple of Indians who also worked in Saudi Arabia and Dubai and they seem to throw out the "scorn" attitude. Indians are Indians in America and they will behave the same way they do in their country...caste comes first

I dont believe you are up on what's ging on in that nation and the attitudes of many Indians in the USA.  Caste matter more to those who have little else to hold on to.

The educated urbanite holds this less important.  And yes, there are those who hold on to it for whatever reasons, but for many, it's not high on their agenda.   Them Indian girls don't want to marry any high caste loser, they prefer the "low caste" surgeon or engineer, etc.

In the US they tend to focus on profession and economic status.  Their kids going through the school systems here are even further removed from this historical baggage!

ba$eman posted:

skeldon_man posted:

ba$eman posted:

Kari posted:

skeldon_man posted:

I have no respect for the Indians from India. I have seen them scorn other Indians from Uganda too. The Indian who told you that is probably in the caste that has the world laughing at their caste system.

The caste system is not as dominant in their thinking as it was even 2 decades ago. Awake from your fossilized thinking. You probably encounter only a select few Indians. Go out there in the world and mix with them to see who they are. Travel to India too and see how you're treated.

Again, I agree.  My experience there taught me a lot about Indians in India.  And just don't look at a man's pretty wife fully in her face and you will be ok.

You seem to think that most Indians have no prejudices. As early as the 70s, the Indians did not want anything to do with anyone other than their own. We use to go to the University of Minnesota to watch Indian movies and they would move if the person sitting by them did not speak Hindi. The South Indians are different from the rest of them.  I worked with a couple of Indians who also worked in Saudi Arabia and Dubai and they seem to throw out the "scorn" attitude. Indians are Indians in America and they will behave the same way they do in their country...caste comes first

I dont believe you are up on what's ging on in that nation and the attitudes of many Indians in the USA.  Caste matter more to those who have little else to hold on to.

The educated urbanite holds this less important.  And yes, there are those who hold on to it for whatever reasons, but for many, it's not high on their agenda.   Them Indian girls don't want to marry any high caste loser, they prefer the "low caste" surgeon or engineer, etc.

In the US they tend to focus on profession and economic status.  Their kids going through the school systems here are even further removed from this historical baggage!

That is how you guys see it. Gillbaka at one time echoed my sentiments about Indians. Maybe it's different in NY.

Leonora posted:

caribny posted:

skeldon_man posted:

caribny posted:

No need to clap baseman.  This has nothing to do with you.

Indians mean nothing to you black KKK. Shows your racist feelings.

Explain what is racist about explaining the fact that Asian Indians think very poorly of folks like you.  Now I know that your self esteem means that you need to live vicariously through them. They laugh at you.

Indians feel those who were taken to the Caribbean mixed with blackman, and so are defiled and not pure as the driven snow. I asked some of them and this was the answer!

Their general view is that  Caribbean Indians are only slightly more knowledgeable of contemporary India than are the blacks who live in those countries.  When an Indian VP visited Guyana several years ago they bemoaned the fact that there wasn't "proper" Indian food in Guyana, and laughed at the fact that the Indo Guyanese had as much trouble pronouncing Hindi words as did the blacks.

It becomes interesting.  I have befriended some Asian Indians because we have a common residual British colonial culture (sorry Prashad), an interest in cricket, and blacks from Trinidad and Guyana actually know the difference between Eid ul Adha, and Phagwah.

Given that blacks from Trinidad, Guyana and Suriname aren't ignorant of India, and Indians from those countries retain a residual 19thC village Indian culture, and some Bollywood fantasy of today's India, they don't view us that differently.

Some Indians look down on Caribbean Indians for these reasons that you outlined, and wonder why they aren't more like Indians from Mauritius, Fiji and East Africa in maintaining a "pure" Indian culture. 

In addition the migrations to the USA are different.  From India it is heavily highly educated professionals.  From the Caribbean its a more rural and/or blue color migration.  So obviously they fit into the USA differently, and face a different range of challenges.  For Indians its getting into Harvard. or MIT. For Caribbean Indians it is graduating high school on time, and with decent grades.

Having said that there are some younger Indians who find Caribbean Indians to be quite fascinating.  They too have issues with their parents, who view them as ABCDs (American Born Confused Desis) as they are also multi cultural.  These younger Indians actually admire the ability of Caribbean Indians to both be multi cultural and to maintain a proud Indian identity.

Now if only Prashad, yuji, baseman, druggie, cobra, skeldonman, and other Indo KKK frauds drew pride in their creolized Indo Caribbean cultural identity instead of being ashamed of it because it contains a heavy dosing of Afro Caribbean creole culture.

I once saw a group of Indo Guyanese American boys break out into spontaneous dance. Bhangra/chutney, soca, and hip hop.  This I think reflects their cultural reality.

Kari posted:

Travel to India too and see how you're treated.

Felicia Persaud (who you might know) organized an outdoor event in Manhattan several years ago. She was frustrated by the fact that Guyanese are the 5th largest immigrant group (behind Dominicans, Chinese, Mexicans and Jamaicans) but yet have virtually no profile in NYC. So she organized an event to heighten this profile, so people can see who Guyanese are.  Of course our divisiveness still renders us ineffective as a community, but that's another topic.

Obviously being Guyanese it would encapsulate Indo and Afro Caribbean elements. An Indian who was in the area noticed tassa drumming and blacks bobbing to that music.  He had never seen such a phenomenon before.

Then the Indo Guyanese girls came and did their "Indian" stuff. He was enthralled by the fact that in his opinion they danced an Indian dance form the way he would imagine a black woman would (more muscular movements, and greater use of the torso, and nor just the hands and feet). He asked if these girls normally dance to reggae.  We know the answer to that.

Some older and/or racist Indians find this offensive.  Others, who are in their own struggle to reconcile their Indian identities with the fact that they live in the USA, so have absorbed aspects of US culture (including some African American influences), find this fascinating.

What we can be sure of is that Indians from India and Indo Caribbean peoples are now as differentiated from each other as are Africans and Afro Caribbean people.  And yes Africans too are re-evaluating how they see their Caribbean counterparts. 

skeldon_man posted:

. The South Indians are different from the rest of them. 

I will say something that will cause you to have a mental break down. In India South Indians are viewed as "black". South Indians face what can be deemed to be racial discrimination, especially if they have that stereotypically "Madrasi" look. 

Based on this fact they more readily identify with and are less biased towards progressive blacks when they meet them in the West.  Some can even be found networking within upper middle class African American circles.  They do this to hedge their bets as they attempt to build alliances outside of the Indian community, and maybe because of the prejudices WITHIN the Indian community.

So its no surprise that they will be more open to Caribbean Indians, even though most Caribbean Indians come from the north.

skeldon_man posted:

 

That is how you guys see it. Gillbaka at one time echoed my sentiments about Indians. Maybe it's different in NY.

When Indians in NY do programming about the Indian community little or no mention is made of its Caribbean Indian component. And they both live in Queens and not that far apart either.

Does this mean that they are enemies. No as it is more nuanced than that as both Kari and baseman indicate.

Does this mean that they will not laugh at a Guyanese Indian cheering an Asian Indian as if the success of that person has anything to do with them?

Quite likely as it isn't just caste which is the issue.  Its the fact that upper middle class Asian Indians see Caribbean Indians as economically less successful, and socially inferior because of who migrates to the USA.

There are two terms in use. NRI and POI.  The fact that these terminologies are used shows that each group is seen as being different.  Within the context of POI Caribbean Indians are seen as the group most alienated from India.

caribny posted:

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caribny posted:

No need to clap baseman.  This has nothing to do with you.

Indians mean nothing to you black KKK. Shows your racist feelings.

Explain what is racist about explaining the fact that Asian Indians think very poorly of folks like you.  They see Caribbean Indians as being underperformers.

Now I know that your self esteem means that you need to live vicariously through them. They laugh at you.

Where do you get your information from, or you just make shit up as you go along? 

Underperfomers?? Dem bright coolie boys from Guyana give some Indians a run for their money in almost every field, although our numbers are really really small.

Indians admire and has great respect for Indo Caribbean people as a matter of fact many of the professionals who come to the Caribbean prefer to settle there after  they complete their assignment.

Here in New York, I have had multiple conversations and they always mention how much they admire how Indians from Trinidad and Guyana has progressed here.

Carib J you have   very low self esteem so do not try to rub that off on others.

Chief posted:

caribny posted:

skeldon_man posted:

caribny posted:

No need to clap baseman.  This has nothing to do with you.

Indians mean nothing to you black KKK. Shows your racist feelings.

Explain what is racist about explaining the fact that Asian Indians think very poorly of folks like you.  They see Caribbean Indians as being underperformers.

Now I know that your self esteem means that you need to live vicariously through them. They laugh at you.

Where do you get your information from, or you just make shit up as you go along? 

Underperfomers?? Dem bright coolie boys from Guyana give some Indians a run for their money in almost every field, although our numbers are really really small.

Indians admire and has great respect for Indo Caribbean people as a matter of fact many of the professionals who come to the Caribbean prefer to settle there after  they complete their assignment.

Here in New York, I have had multiple conversations and they always mention how much they admire how Indians from Trinidad and Guyana has progressed here.

 

Carib J you have   very low self esteem so do not try to rub that off on others.

When you are in a Filth infested Bushwick Basement, how would you know what is happening !!!!!!!!

Chief posted:

 

Where do you get your information from, or you just make shit up as you go along? 

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Dear Sir NY Times had a whole article on it some years ago.  Now this isn't the news that you wish but this is it.  They want their kids in Harvard, MIT and Stanford.  They don't see comparable numbers of Guyanese Indians with those goals.

I have had Guyanese Indians tell me that they wish that they were black.  One cannot believe every thing that some one tells you.

CARIBNY, there are a few myths you peddle. Yes, I do know Felicia Persaud and her functions get promoted in a certain circle. She probably knows more about the Brooklyn community of Guyanese than the Queens community of Guyanese.

I've been spoken to by writers of the NT Times when they wrote articles on our community and quite frankly their reporting was lacking in fidelity. They wrote like a video cassette playback than a 4K video resolution - not sharp at all. So they have no authority on writing about the Queens community.

Get off this myth that South Indians are all dark skinned. Kerala and Tamil Nadu may have dark skinned people but they are a lot of Christians and they are very savvy. The bulk of Southern India is where the brains of India lie, and States like Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka have people the color of most of the Indians in Guyana. The Euro-Indians and Mughal/Persian/Turk tribes you see up north are not the brains. don't be fooled by Delhi and Mumbai. Look where the industries are and India's silicon Valley.

You are so off-based when talking about the difference in the use of the body in dancing between Afros (more use of torso) and Indians (more use of limbs). You are so simplistic. Stay away from cultural commentary.

Know this - other than the cream of Indian IT, the majority are mid-level coders and Guyanese Indian programmers happen to be their bosses in some situations that I know.

Don't think that Guyanese Indians in the US only look at Asian Indians successes and claim it to be their own too because they are lacking. You do not know the entrepreneurial and professional achievements of Indo Guyanese in America.

BTW none of the above is to diminish Afro-Guyanese business people and Professionals. I'm friends of a few here, in LA and in Florida.

The idea is for you to stop being simplistic and provide information like on a flier. Stop dabbling in headlines and write in more nuanced life-like tones. You sound like a babbling carnival barker like Donald Trump taliking about Mexicans as rapists, etc.

That bai Caribj seem to be overly infatuated with all things Indian!  He goes to all lengths to belittle and put down Guyanese Indians. That boy Caribj far removed from what happening in the Indian community, Guyanese or Indians  

Kari posted:

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Get off this myth that South Indians are all dark skinned. Kerala and Tamil Nadu may have dark skinned people but they are a lot of Christians and they are very savvy. The bulk of Southern India is where the brains of India lie,

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I see.  So an assertion that many South Asians are dark skinned means that they aren't savvy?  That is in YOUR head. 

Did I say this? NO! .

The reality is that India is a colorist society and South Indians do face discrimination.  And yes they are the most educated, less confined by casteism, less likely to be Hindu fundamentalist, and there is more religious diversity.   State governments in south India have invested more in education than those in the north, and we see the results.  They have also invested in health care and women are way more empowered.  This is  why the center of IT is in Hyderabad and not in some city in Uttar Pradesh.

Also I meet enough Indians to be not ignorant of that country.  I probably no more of it than most Guyanese Indians do, informed as many are by Bollywood.

Does the fact that Felicia knows more Afro Guyanese mean that she is less Guyanese?  NO!  Its that Afro Guyanese and other Afro Caribbean people are more open to her vision of a united and empowered Caribbean diasporic community than Indo Guyanese in particular are. 

You see Indo Guyanese are in a trap. Rejected by Indians because they aren't "Indian enough", yet rejecting any association with the Caribbean at large as they reject any association with blacks.  And they reject any Indo Caribbean person who has an outlook that Felicia has.

And please don't fool yourself that Asian Indians accept Caribbean Indians as one and the same and part of their community.  You know better than that.  RH has a DISTINCT Caribbean Indian  community, and a DISTINCT Asian Indian community.  The overlap is very limited.

The interesting thing is that there is MORE division between the two than there are between Nigerian and Caribbean black populations in NYC.  No doubt because there is no baggage between the two as no one from either will pretend as if there is anything other than a vague historical connection.

Kari posted:

 

You are so off-based when talking about the difference in the use of the body in dancing between Afros (more use of torso) and Indians (more use of limbs). You are so simplistic. Stay away from cultural commentary.

 

Median household incomes between Guyanese Indians and Asian Indians are very different as is the occupational roles that they play in the economy in NYC.  The Indo Caribbean and Asian Indian populations in NYC are comparable in size yet there is much higher visibility of Asian Indians in the mainstream healthcare, finance, and technology.

I don't care who you know but that doesn't change this fact.

Boss this is what an Indian told me when he saw Indo Guyanese girls dancing.  He said that they didn't dance like girls from India and attributed that to their significant involvement in Afro Caribbean dance forms.  If you have a problem with this go scream at him.

In fact several non Indians have told me that they can differentiate a Caribbean Indian from an Asian Indian.  They claim that Caribbean Indians are...well......Caribbean. To make it "simple" for you.  They see obvious influence of black styles among how many Caribbean Indians talk, move and dress!

Kari do you know that a Nigerian will be able to understand Creolese speaking Indo Guyanese whereas an Indian will NOT!

caribny posted:

And please don't fool yourself that Asian Indians accept Caribbean Indians as one and the same and part of their community.  You know better than that.  RH has a DISTINCT Caribbean Indian  community, and a DISTINCT Asian Indian community.  The overlap is very limited.

The interesting thing is that there is MORE division between the two than there are between Nigerian and Caribbean black populations in NYC.  No doubt because there is no baggage between the two as no one from either will pretend as if there is anything other than a vague historical connection.

Not so. the 'twain always meet.

caribny posted:

Kari posted:

 

You are so off-based when talking about the difference in the use of the body in dancing between Afros (more use of torso) and Indians (more use of limbs). You are so simplistic. Stay away from cultural commentary.

 

Median household incomes between Guyanese Indians and Asian Indians are very different as is the occupational roles that they play in the economy in NYC.  The Indo Caribbean and Asian Indian populations in NYC are comparable in size yet there is much higher visibility of Asian Indians in the mainstream healthcare, finance, and technology.

I don't care who you know but that doesn't change this fact.

Boss this is what an Indian told me when he saw Indo Guyanese girls dancing.  He said that they didn't dance like girls from India and attributed that to their significant involvement in Afro Caribbean dance forms.  If you have a problem with this go scream at him.

In fact several non Indians have told me that they can differentiate a Caribbean Indian from an Asian Indian.  They claim that Caribbean Indians are...well......Caribbean. To make it "simple" for you.  They see obvious influence of black styles among how many Caribbean Indians talk, move and dress!

Kari do you know that a Nigerian will be able to understand Creolese speaking Indo Guyanese whereas an Indian will NOT!

I forgot to state how simple-minded you are in describing Indian singing as nasal. Never heard full-throated Indian voices both male and female? Or you hear what you want to hear (like Chinese female singing).

The man love his Qwe Qwe singing ONLY.

Nehru posted:

The man love his Qwe Qwe singing ONLY.

Never heard full-throated Indian voices both male and female?

Carib looks more racist than the Grand Wizard of the KKK.

Nah, I  won't go so far as to call him racist. Prejudiced views? Yes. But I think this is born out of low-information - a la Trump. Nasal singing, dance with limbs only, caste flourishing and the light-skinned Indians pissing on Caribbean Indians. He lives in that Fox News bubble or that 1960s Guyanese transplant who's been fossilized. Times have changed my brethren. Look at the millennial demographic.

Kari posted:

caribny posted:

And please don't fool yourself that Asian Indians accept Caribbean Indians as one and the same and part of their community.  You know better than that.  RH has a DISTINCT Caribbean Indian  community, and a DISTINCT Asian Indian community.  The overlap is very limited.

The interesting thing is that there is MORE division between the two than there are between Nigerian and Caribbean black populations in NYC.  No doubt because there is no baggage between the two as no one from either will pretend as if there is anything other than a vague historical connection.

Not so. the 'twain always meet.

There are NRIs and POIs.  Clearly India doesn't see you as an NRI.  Ponder this as you fool yourself that Asian Indians see Caribbean Indians as indistinguishable from them.

Kari posted:

caribny posted:

Kari posted:

 

Still fooling yourself that you are an NRI?

Kari posted:

light-skinned Indians pissing on Caribbean Indians..

Kari thinks that India sees him as an NRI. Kari they invented a whole category called POI to communicate to you that they don't see you as one of them.

Now run off to the nearest RH nightclub and watch those Indo Caribbean girls shaking their pampalam.  Imagine how shocked (or fascinated) some one from India would be seeing the performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-jU5l33ljg

Look at the skinny girl in the blue top.  She is actually doing a better AFRICAN dance than most black Caribbean can!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoRkdlJQsZc

Now compare with this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnsy6aB5noY

Kari as an Asian Indian told me, "Caribbean Indians are a wonderful mix of Africa and India".  Sorry if the colorism and racism that you appear to have comes bubbling out with this analysis.

Kari the last ship left for India 100 years ago.  You guys were left stranded among a bunch of blacks and it shows. Don't worry, Indians call you POI, not NRI. Accept that. Accept who you are and just move on. 

When you pretend as if Caribbean Indians and Asian Indians are one and the same you begin to look like those silly black Americans who think that there is a Mother Africa which applies to them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neDyc1fQ4rc

No wonder Prashad wants a separate Indesh.

Kari I guess you will claim that these are black girls. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piRX7UHQM3E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJp4S3Or51Y

Kari once you explain to a Nigerian what the word "coolie" is they will understand what he is singing.

Now try this in New Delhi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWVJCY9f84M

This is the type of dancing that the Indian fellow was referring to.  Now if black girls were dancing it would their movements be different.  I doubt it.

He will claim that a female straight from India (not a hiphop Indo American/British) will have different moves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...hqNMIE#t=103.1958426

Kari if you took that tassa drumming to Barbados the people will respond to it with the same moves that these people have.

Bajans don't know anything about Indian culture.  They just know that when a drum knock how their body tells them to move.

 If you want to see Caribbean people get on "evil" just play some tassa and you get a good "wuk up session".  Find a Bajan if you don't know what "wukking up" is.

Remember just a few weeks ago some one posted about the minute things that a female in India needs to do to "deserve" being raped.