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Makes a helluva lotta sense. Our team had to play tonight without the numbers one and two players and after triple overtine came out victorious. Their second unit must have gained some lesson that could help them if they are in a similar future situation.
I'm thinking of application at home. How do you balance the concept that failure = experience at the same time letting children know it's not okay to sit back and fail under the guise of "gaining experience."
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quote:Originally posted by antabanta:
I'm thinking of application at home. How do you balance the concept that failure = experience at the same time letting children know it's not okay to sit back and fail under the guise of "gaining experience."
Perhaps you can say when motivation + action & innovation still result in failure, we called it valuable lesson. On the other hand, inaction, self limitation & slothfulness are the 'glittering' attributes of sluggards
A quote from ?????
âFailure is the tuition you pay for success.â
âFailure is the tuition you pay for success.â
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by antabanta:
I'm thinking of application at home. How do you balance the concept that failure = experience at the same time letting children know it's not okay to sit back and fail under the guise of "gaining experience."
Failure is not a word thought of in our home. We believe in nothing ventured nothing gained and coming up short is not regarded as failure. For instance, when my kids played sports, my response to every play was either 'nice play' or 'nice try'. This approach has made both of them very confident in their undertakings which shows up in their grades at school.
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i guess the first lesson you teach is lead by example.in my home i teach that if you get knock down you get up back.and what donot kill you will only make you strong.
nice...quote:Originally posted by Mara:quote:Originally posted by antabanta:
I'm thinking of application at home. How do you balance the concept that failure = experience at the same time letting children know it's not okay to sit back and fail under the guise of "gaining experience."
Perhaps you can say when motivation + action & innovation still result in failure, we called it valuable lesson. On the other hand, inaction, self limitation & slothfulness are the 'glittering' attributes of sluggards
How things buddy. Thought you were off the board permanently.
My 14 year old is very active in baseball and kickboxing. Just started his amateur career with a win in November. Before every game or fight I tell him the same thing. Win or lose makes no difference as long as you play hard and fight hard. Same thing for academics. However, whether it's typical teenage behavior or not sometimes he seems like the laziest person in the world.
In Guyana, there was something on the radio after the news that went like this.
It's not if you win or lose, it's how you play the game that matters, play fair, be a good sport.
Dam, how the heck did I remember that?
It's not if you win or lose, it's how you play the game that matters, play fair, be a good sport.
Dam, how the heck did I remember that?
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by antabanta:
nice...
How things buddy. Thought you were off the board permanently.
Tends to get bored easily these days, but still hanging in there. Presently I am in Orlando for another couple of days and may be in the NY area later next week before heading back home.
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by antabanta:
My 14 year old is very active in baseball and kickboxing. Just started his amateur career with a win in November. Before every game or fight I tell him the same thing. Win or lose makes no difference as long as you play hard and fight hard. Same thing for academics. However, whether it's typical teenage behavior or not sometimes he seems like the laziest person in the world.
I would say great choice with relative low risk of career ending injuries, longevity and high earning potential. Plus he has Guyanese bred Mark Texiera already in the NY Yankee club house holding the door open.
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As a kid I once worked on a rather time consuming physics problem. I knew I got it right since I cross checked my math and it all worked out well and I felt I understood very well what was going on.quote:Originally posted by antabanta:
The power of failing
When my results came back I got a C on the test. I was very upset since I need an A for the course to remain on scholarship another year. It was the second of 4 exams and we only get to dump one for our final grade.
I went to the professor and complained bitterly. He said he would not change the grade as it would mean he give me permission to fail and failure in physics often means death. If my instruction involved delivery of supplies to astronauts my astronauts would be dead. My answer was 25g. I forget to writer 25 g/cubic centimeter.
Sometimes failure is not an option and permission to fail can mean catastrophe. I "killed" my astronauts and almost killed my scholarship for a year.
Give me a shout when in NY if you have time to buss a lime.quote:Originally posted by Mara:quote:Originally posted by antabanta:
nice...
How things buddy. Thought you were off the board permanently.
Tends to get bored easily these days, but still hanging in there. Presently I am in Orlando for another couple of days and may be in the NY area later next week before heading back home.
Whether an option or not it happens. I think the issue is dealing with it in such a way as not to turn the person into a victim.quote:Originally posted by D2:As a kid I once worked on a rather time consuming physics problem. I knew I got it right since I cross checked my math and it all worked out well and I felt I understood very well what was going on.quote:Originally posted by antabanta:
The power of failing
When my results came back I got a C on the test. I was very upset since I need an A for the course to remain on scholarship another year. It was the second of 4 exams and we only get to dump one for our final grade.
I went to the professor and complained bitterly. He said he would not change the grade as it would mean he give me permission to fail and failure in physics often means death. If my instruction involved delivery of supplies to astronauts my astronauts would be dead. My answer was 25g. I forget to writer 25 g/cubic centimeter.
Sometimes failure is not an option and permission to fail can mean catastrophe. I "killed" my astronauts and almost killed my scholarship for a year.
Former Member
I do not doubt it happens but in many jobs ie structural design, aeronautics/space flight etc one gives permission only to succeed as failure is not an option. When failure is contemplated it is to build redundancies to circumvent failure.quote:Originally posted by antabanta:Whether an option or not it happens. I think the issue is dealing with it in such a way as not to turn the person into a victim.quote:Originally posted by D2:As a kid I once worked on a rather time consuming physics problem. I knew I got it right since I cross checked my math and it all worked out well and I felt I understood very well what was going on.quote:Originally posted by antabanta:
The power of failing
When my results came back I got a C on the test. I was very upset since I need an A for the course to remain on scholarship another year. It was the second of 4 exams and we only get to dump one for our final grade.
I went to the professor and complained bitterly. He said he would not change the grade as it would mean he give me permission to fail and failure in physics often means death. If my instruction involved delivery of supplies to astronauts my astronauts would be dead. My answer was 25g. I forget to writer 25 g/cubic centimeter.
Sometimes failure is not an option and permission to fail can mean catastrophe. I "killed" my astronauts and almost killed my scholarship for a year.
I do agree that failure is inevitable but I think the permission to fail is a permission to kill someone in science, engineering and certain areas of medicine. I leave the permission to fail to the creative enterprise and development where one speculate on possibilities rather in areas of practical applications and process.
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Give me a shout when in NY if you have time to buss a lime.[/QUOTEquote:Originally posted by antabanta:quote:Originally posted by Mara:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by antabanta:
nice...
How things buddy. Thought you were off the board permanently.
Tends to get bored easily these days, but still hanging in there. Presently I am in Orlando for another couple of days and may be in the NY area later next week before heading back home.
Will do, but you may have to PM me your digits again . Every time my cell (and glasses) goes over-board I lose all my contacts ( four time in the past five years) Wifey said I need to go back to slate & pencil and daughter said she would prescribe floating cow dung specs if I keep loosing them like that.
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