Bibi Haniffa posted:

yuji22 posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Tola posted:

Good luck Mr. Gorsky.

You think Bartland Scotsman will use his dictatorial powers bestowed upon him and block it at the gates of Parliament Like how he blocked several other motions?

Let us see what happens now. Jagdeo has the PNC cornered. Brilliant political move by President Jagdeo. PNC is down, knock them out. Do for Do is not Obeah.

As acting President, Naga can't vote in the National Assemby.

Then this is interesting if Naga cannot vote as acting President. He probably passing bricks right now.

Yugi, Naga has two votes; one as an AFC parliamentarian and the other as Veto. Has Jagdeo tendered his motion?

Mitwah posted:

Yugi, Naga has two votes; one as an AFC parliamentarian and the other as Veto. Has Jagdeo tendered his motion?

Mits, you are schooling the declared PPP supporters on GNI.

By the way their comments are just to prop up their party, the political situations are not viewed with an analytical mind.

The coalition gov't is still strong, they are learning from their mistakes.

see article here https://guyana.crowdstack.io/topic/a...firm-coalition-unity

Jagdeo is shrewd.  He did not make this bold move without considering how he will succeed given the seats.  It can only work with a defection in the coalition ranks, AFC.   Given the ill treatment of the AFC by the PNC, it’s plausible.  This move by BJ likely strength the AFC. Not sure how it will end for them in 2020.  The PNC cannot be trusted to abide by any agreement.

Baseman posted:

Jagdeo is shrewd.  He did not make this bold move without considering how he will succeed given the seats.  It can only work with a defection in the coalition ranks, AFC.   Given the ill treatment of the AFC by the PNC, it’s plausible.  This move by BJ likely strength the AFC. Not sure how it will end for them in 2020.  The PNC cannot be trusted to abide by any agreement.

If the AFC is smart this is the time for them to make a striking chess move. Look beyond 2020, should PNC win, AFC will be demoted from the status they presently enjoy.

kp posted:

Baseman posted:

Jagdeo is shrewd.  He did not make this bold move without considering how he will succeed given the seats.  It can only work with a defection in the coalition ranks, AFC.   Given the ill treatment of the AFC by the PNC, it’s plausible.  This move by BJ likely strength the AFC. Not sure how it will end for them in 2020.  The PNC cannot be trusted to abide by any agreement.

If the AFC is smart this is the time for them to make a striking chess move. Look beyond 2020, should PNC win, AFC will be demoted from the status they presently enjoy.

I agree.  The PNC has shown their teeth.  And yes, the AFC needs to think beyond 2020 given the rout at the LGE.  They have zero intrinsic value but they still have some institutional power which will diminish fast!!

Dont trust those smiling snakes PNC!!

Baseman posted:

Jagdeo is shrewd.  He did not make this bold move without considering how he will succeed given the seats.  It can only work with a defection in the coalition ranks, AFC.   Given the ill treatment of the AFC by the PNC, it’s plausible.  This move by BJ likely strength the AFC. Not sure how it will end for them in 2020.  The PNC cannot be trusted to abide by any agreement.

Jags has some tricks in the works. I was discussing with some political analysts and we have a pretty good idea what his plans are.

Defection could possibly come from WPA, JP or other APNU partners. They aren't happy, particularly WPA. Ask David Hinds.

Leonora posted:

Baseman posted:

Jagdeo is shrewd.  He did not make this bold move without considering how he will succeed given the seats.  It can only work with a defection in the coalition ranks, AFC.   Given the ill treatment of the AFC by the PNC, it’s plausible.  This move by BJ likely strength the AFC. Not sure how it will end for them in 2020.  The PNC cannot be trusted to abide by any agreement.

Jags has some tricks in the works. I was discussing with some political analysts and we have a pretty good idea what his plans are.

Can you share on GNI ?

Leonora posted:

Baseman posted:

Jagdeo is shrewd.  He did not make this bold move without considering how he will succeed given the seats.  It can only work with a defection in the coalition ranks, AFC.   Given the ill treatment of the AFC by the PNC, it’s plausible.  This move by BJ likely strength the AFC. Not sure how it will end for them in 2020.  The PNC cannot be trusted to abide by any agreement.

Jags has some tricks in the works. I was discussing with some political analysts and we have a pretty good idea what his plans are.

Len, keep this one quiet for now. Let dem bais sweat lil. 

Drugb posted:

Baseman posted:

Mars priming his mind for a return of the PPP!!

Doubtful, putagee always side up with the blacks. 

So said druggie who was beaten up by them daily when he was at Saints, so was too terrified to go to school.

Django posted:

 

Can you share on GNI ?

When Yugi starts sharing, then I'll chime in with what I know.   

When they announce their Candidate, then everything will fall in place.

Leonora posted:

Django posted:

 

Can you share on GNI ?

When Yugi starts sharing, then I'll chime in with what I know.   

When they announce their Candidate, then everything will fall in place.

Yugli doesn't know anything. 

Django posted:

Leonora posted:

Baseman posted:

Jagdeo is shrewd.  He did not make this bold move without considering how he will succeed given the seats.  It can only work with a defection in the coalition ranks, AFC.   Given the ill treatment of the AFC by the PNC, it’s plausible.  This move by BJ likely strength the AFC. Not sure how it will end for them in 2020.  The PNC cannot be trusted to abide by any agreement.

Jags has some tricks in the works. I was discussing with some political analysts and we have a pretty good idea what his plans are.

Can you share on GNI ?

Lol.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Django posted:

Leonora posted:

Baseman posted:

Jagdeo is shrewd.  He did not make this bold move without considering how he will succeed given the seats.  It can only work with a defection in the coalition ranks, AFC.   Given the ill treatment of the AFC by the PNC, it’s plausible.  This move by BJ likely strength the AFC. Not sure how it will end for them in 2020.  The PNC cannot be trusted to abide by any agreement.

Jags has some tricks in the works. I was discussing with some political analysts and we have a pretty good idea what his plans are.

Can you share on GNI ?

Lol. = Lucifer Our Lord.

APNU+AFC confident all MPs will vote against Jagdeo’s no-confidence motion

Posted by: Denis Chabrol in News, PoliticsNovember 16, 20180 Comments

LEFT TO RIGHT: PNCR General Secretary, Amna Ally; Acting Prime Minister Carl Greenidge; PNCR Chairman, Volda Lawrence; Acting President, Moses Nagamootoo; AFC Chairman, Khemraj Ramjattan and APNU Chairman, Joseph Harmon.

The governing coalition A Partnership for National Unity+ Alliance For Change (APNU+AFC) on Friday said it was extremely confident that all of its 33 parliamentarians would vote down an opposition-sponsored no-confidence motion against the government.

Hours later, government called off Friday’s sitting of the National Assembly and prepared for a meeting of government parliamentarians.

AFC Executive Member, David Patterson vowed that the coalition-led government “would never prorogue parliament” and would instead “stand and defend our record”. “Every single member of the government side, every single MP (Member of Parliament) will get up there and defend the record and vote resoundingly ‘no’ to this no-confidence motion,” he said.

Chairman of the People’s National Congress Reform (PNCR), APNU’s largest and most influential member, Volda Lawrence described as a “fallacy” unconfirmed reports that one of the coalition’s parliamentarians would be “bought out” by the PPP. “Let me say it loud and clear: We are not for sale,” she said.

Acting President, Moses Nagamootoo, boasting that the coalition has a majority in the 65-seat House, labelled Opposition Leader, Bharrat Jagdeo’s no-confidence motion a “provocation” that was “insensitive” to the fact that President David Granger was sick and receiving medical treatment overseas. He accused Jagdeo of using the motion to “breathe disaffection” and “stir divisiveness”.

“A minority cannot assume that it could succeed in a Parliament and it cannot assume speculatively that the alliance is divisive. The alliance is cohesive, it is united, it is strong and we are holding together,” he said to loud applause of numerous supporters of the coalition.

Nagamootoo said House Speaker, Dr. Barton Scotland would have to decide whether the no-confidence motion should be debated against the background of the impending tabling of the 2019 National Budget later this month. The motion, if accepted and placed on the Order Paper, could be debated on November 27, 2018 or later. Acting Prime Minister, Carl Greenidge described the 2019 budget as “an important budget”, the last fiscal package before 2020, for the things it needs to address. “It is I’m afraid, not in the National interest at all so I reject that assertion,” said Greenidge.

The Jagdeo-sponsored no-confidence motion, which was delivered to the Clerk of the National Assembly on Thursday, comes against the backdrop of what he cites as mismanagement, alleged corruption, failed promises, higher taxes and unemployment.

So if they are so confident, why did they getaway from Parliament?

Serious move by the opposition and the reaction of the government makes it even more serious.  

Enquiring minds want to know. 

Bibi Haniffa posted:

So if they are so confident, why did they getaway from Parliament?

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Serious move by the opposition and the reaction of the government makes it even more serious.  

Enquiring minds want to know. 

Read the article nuh!

Bibi Haniffa posted:

So if they are so confident, why did they getaway from Parliament?

APNU and AFC are to host a joint media conference today at 11am at Congress Place.

https://guyana.crowdstack.io/topic/a...firm-coalition-unity

The 2019 Budget will be tabled in parliament later this month. Greenidge said it is "an important budget" besides being the last budget before the 2020 general election. Looks like plenty salary hikes and perks gon share out soon.

Does this no confidence motion have a chance?  PNC/AFC still have a majority of seats to vote it down?

Bibi Haniffa posted:

So if they are so confident, why did they getaway from Parliament?

Why did Ramotar prorogue parliament when he was scared about what Nagamootoo threatened to do?

Drugb posted:

Does this no confidence motion have a chance?  PNC/AFC still have a majority of seats to vote it down?

Not if the little parties defect. 2 gone and its national elections.  Jagdeo changes the rules and crowns himself emperor for life and you will be happy.  Lucky for you Jagdeo now controls Hammie Green's bad boys.

caribny posted:

Drugb posted:

Does this no confidence motion have a chance?  PNC/AFC still have a majority of seats to vote it down?

Not if the little parties defect. 2 gone and its national elections.  Jagdeo changes the rules and crowns himself emperor for life and you will be happy.  Lucky for you Jagdeo now controls Hammie Green's bad boys.

Those MP's got to be foolish to allow Baby Kong to get his way.

caribny posted:

Drugb posted:

Does this no confidence motion have a chance?  PNC/AFC still have a majority of seats to vote it down?

Not if the little parties defect. 2 gone and its national elections.  Jagdeo changes the rules and crowns himself emperor for life and you will be happy.  Lucky for you Jagdeo now controls Hammie Green's bad boys.

Which little parties are susceptible? It was just AFC that gave pnc the additional power when they booted Ramoutar. Moses and Prak will keep their minions in line so they can continue to enjoy the high life. 

Moses and Kanwa are already in front singing a PNC mantra. They are scared shyte that Congress Place will skin them up. They are stuck like tractors in Berbice mud.

Drugb posted:

Does this no confidence motion have a chance?  PNC/AFC still have a majority of seats to vote it down?

I doubt Jagdeo will waste time and effort knowing it’s a sure lose.  I spoke to a relative in Guyana who said there is dissatisfaction within the ranks. And they are connected to the Coalition and PPP!

There are some shifting sands and Jagdeo threw down the gauntlet!

Baseman posted:

Drugb posted:

Does this no confidence motion have a chance?  PNC/AFC still have a majority of seats to vote it down?

I doubt Jagdeo will waste time and effort knowing it’s a sure lose.  I spoke to a relative in Guyana who said there is dissatisfaction within the ranks. And they are connected to the Coalition and PPP!

There are some shifting sands and Jagdeo threw down the gauntlet!

Could be, remember sometime back when a Black PnC woman voted with the PPP or abstained? Whatever happened to her?

Drugb posted:

caribny posted:

Drugb posted:

Does this no confidence motion have a chance?  PNC/AFC still have a majority of seats to vote it down?

Not if the little parties defect. 2 gone and its national elections.  Jagdeo changes the rules and crowns himself emperor for life and you will be happy.  Lucky for you Jagdeo now controls Hammie Green's bad boys.

Which little parties are susceptible? It was just AFC that gave pnc the additional power when they booted Ramoutar. Moses and Prak will keep their minions in line so they can continue to enjoy the high life. 

There are two other small parties in APNU, JFP - MP Sharma, WPA MP Roopnarine.

Check here  http://apnuguyana.org/

Drugb posted:

Baseman posted:

Drugb posted:

Does this no confidence motion have a chance?  PNC/AFC still have a majority of seats to vote it down?

I doubt Jagdeo will waste time and effort knowing it’s a sure lose.  I spoke to a relative in Guyana who said there is dissatisfaction within the ranks. And they are connected to the Coalition and PPP!

There are some shifting sands and Jagdeo threw down the gauntlet!

Could be, remember sometime back when a Black PnC woman voted with the PPP or abstained? Whatever happened to her?

Juss like wuh happen wid Comey.  Remember datt Banna right here.  

Django posted:

Drugb posted:

caribny posted:

Drugb posted:

Does this no confidence motion have a chance?  PNC/AFC still have a majority of seats to vote it down?

Not if the little parties defect. 2 gone and its national elections.  Jagdeo changes the rules and crowns himself emperor for life and you will be happy.  Lucky for you Jagdeo now controls Hammie Green's bad boys.

Which little parties are susceptible? It was just AFC that gave pnc the additional power when they booted Ramoutar. Moses and Prak will keep their minions in line so they can continue to enjoy the high life. 

There are two other small parties in APNU, JFP - MP Sharma, WPA MP Roopnarine.

Check here  http://apnuguyana.org/

 

Sharama and Roop are susceptible?  What do they have to gain if they go along with PPP?  Don't buy that they will sell out. 

Drugb posted:

Django posted:

Drugb posted:

caribny posted:

Drugb posted:

Does this no confidence motion have a chance?  PNC/AFC still have a majority of seats to vote it down?

Not if the little parties defect. 2 gone and its national elections.  Jagdeo changes the rules and crowns himself emperor for life and you will be happy.  Lucky for you Jagdeo now controls Hammie Green's bad boys.

Which little parties are susceptible? It was just AFC that gave pnc the additional power when they booted Ramoutar. Moses and Prak will keep their minions in line so they can continue to enjoy the high life. 

There are two other small parties in APNU, JFP - MP Sharma, WPA MP Roopnarine.

Check here  http://apnuguyana.org/

 

Sharama and Roop are susceptible?  What do they have to gain if they go along with PPP?  Don't buy that they will sell out. 

They are the ones to look at on Monday.