TK, do you know Vijay Kumar...he is an Accounting Prof at St. Johns

btw, this is a nice thread TK...thanks for starting it

alena:

If your girls get full scholarships to any of the IVYs, then by all means they should head there, but if you have to pay and if they intend to major in the liberal arts or social science, then it would be prudent for them to attend a state or city college.

Now if your girls are interested in the sciences and mathematics---and they get accepted into MIT, Stanford or the IVY's---and if they don't get full scholarships---find a way for them to head there.

Now, is the teaching and instruction at the IVY's better than at the other schools---No! Absolutely not!

But once you attend an IVY---the connections and contacts after you finish are amazing---lots of doors are opened for you.

Once again--mathematics and sciences---head for the IVY or great non IVY schools like Stanford or MIT; any other major--find a cheap state or city school.

Rev

Buddy, when you come out of Ivy League you START at six figures!! 

Alena my Friend, Not so, only the few connected and the Top 1% of the Population.

Alena, I personally know Kids who were hired out of Baruch with Bachelor's Degree into TOP Companies and received incentives to accept.

William and Mary has always been an excellent college with very good programs. New College of Florida is the big suprise for me. low cost with very good programs.  It is also a college not many people ever heard of.

For me when I retire I am going to do some courses at Maharishi University.  They are the only university where students leave in better health than when they enter. Every thing there is organic and there is daily meditation and exercise.

Unfortunately no I do not know him. I did teach for 2 years at St John's at the business school there...I was an adjunct back then. This was 6 years ago. Feel free to give him my contact info. 

Dude is real smart...was in the top 10% in scores in the US when he took the CPA....excellent Prof, but could be real intimidating and nasty. Old school dude, but his classes are always filled....he is good at what he does

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You have tried to do that on many occasions...however as I have told Pavi on many occasions you cannot decide that in this lifetime. That's determined by the profession. 

I got 2 boys...both good at Math and Science....have to figure out the numbers for a good engineering college

Hoping for a couple scholarships

Nice to hear that. I am trying to convince my boy to think about becoming an accounting prof in the long term. To do stats/econ double BA and then move into quantitative accounting. De bai want chemistry instead . 

I'll let the boy stick with Chemistry

If they don't know what to do let them do maths...can never go wrong with that. So much can be done after. For engineering make sure you have Cooper Union on your list. 

Yeah...Cooper Union also on the list

My strategy would be to make sure they get the highest possible SAT. If your income is high the top schools and Ivy will not offer scholarships even with the highest SAT. But if you throw a 2200+ SAT on a public school like City or Hunter it's going to be a full ride. That's going to me my strategy. My college is obliged to do this for kids with high incomes who got into Princeton, Yale, Amherst, etc. Given their high SATs they get full ride at my college. 

What is considered high income by colleges?

A good field for those who are mathematically inclined is actuarial science---pursue an undergrad degree in math---then take those 10 exams from the Actuarial society---you'll qualify as a Fellow of the society of actuaries(FSA)---with an undergrad degree in math---graduates ought to pass the first 2 exams easily---actually a lot of math grads fail the 1st two exams---they are very competitive---anyway---the life insurance companies and the property/casualty insurance companies---they all have training programs---for math grads who want to become actuaries.

By the time you pass all 10 actuarial exams---it will take about 5 years---you'll make around 200K or even more---I'm not sure about today's salary.

RE: ENGINEERING

I know a lot of folks with undergrad engineering majors---who then pursued a masters in business---that's the way to move up the ladder I guess.

Good luck to your sons!

Rev

Newton was Lucasian Professor of Mathematics, Heisenberg  was  a Lecturer in Theoretical Physics at the University of Copenhagen, Kant was a Professor at University of Konigsberg etc. The list of professors who became renown for practical work and Lecturers who came from having experience in some enterprise are endless. You are rattling your usual simplistic nonsense. TK is young man and in the beginning of his professional career so you are also jumping the gun as though you know the entirety of his life.

And let me remind you, a theory is not wishful thinking. It is not useless speculation. Also, there is no enterprise not grounded in principle on some theory or another.  Guyana needs thinkers and people who can look at the world sideways and not merely straight ahead. These are mavericks and usually the theorists. They examine the ways things work and build it in their heads and test it against the realm of existing  ideas for its inconsistencies and its advantages. That is how there are revolution in society and science.  You are a mal educated simpleton and need to  read a little more on what is a theory before you come spewing nonsense that furthers add to the mud in the heads of these mudheads here.

 Again you idiot, it is not best minds that are equipped to accept a theoretical foundation and implement it. Anyone who has a problem who needs a solution and is looking for one peruses the world of ideas to see if someone has an answer that would help. Further, most of what is used at as the "best fit" comes from the irrational practice of taking the prevailing "great man/woman's authority" first. It takes the person who is keen on problem solving to look outside the reflected glow of "greatness" and that is  where almost every revolution of science originated.

As usual, you always point out the exception as thought it was the norm, and to boot you had to go all the way back to the 17th century to find an example.

You will note that TK at his second rate university can not be compared to the 2 gentlemen above. 

And I will note that your embrace for theory is only because you yourself have been a failure, having to settle for life behind a dollar store counter while the rest of us put our university training to practical use in the real world. 

I don't have a good answer for that. In one case each parent made about 60K and had a house. That disqualified for most scholarships at the top university because these folks are "rich". I have a close family who got a 1590 (the old SAT) back in the days. UPenn said she could not get scholarship. Penn State however gave her an excellent deal. But they made the choice to send her to UPenn regardless. I'd say make sure the SAT is really high and most things would fall in place. I am sure they will do great things...you said they are math inclined. Make sure they never lose that inclination. 

How quick you are to refer to me with derogatory labels. It reveals the lack of restraint and all round nasty mentality of the aFC pack. Theories learnt from a books is normally useless if one lacks the ability to put them to practical use, that is why most weak academics resort to teaching instead. The smart ones move on to make a fortune in their respective fields of study in the real world. And even TK will acknowledge that breakthroughs in science does not come from teachers but rather their students in the labs, dorms or garages. I don't want to mention name but there is the famous Bill, late Steve and more recently Mark. 

Not true, maybe I was trying to rattle your cage.  I still have high hopes for you, but I don't see your future in the aFC. 

Wow! You really don't have a clue. Bill Gates made a breakthrough in science? Mark did? Jobs did? Wow.

This is why you will remain behind a lectern while others take chances and reap the rewards. To diminish the ability of these men from your perch of obscurity is laughable. 

Stormy:

Guyana doesn't need thinkers. What Guyana needs are more doers--doers are the people who will help Guyana realize her immense potential---doers dont waste time talking and speculating and coming up with useless theories---doers do--they get things done---that's what Guyana needs--doers--not talkers and readers and thinkers.

Lemme shower you with some praise Stormy--you are obviously widely read---actually you are a reader Stormy--by the way, there is a humongous difference between a reader and a thinker---a thinker you are not Storm man---and regarding being a doer--fugget about it---maybe in your next life Stormy.hahahahahahahaha

Rev

Stormy never took the I-95 to California

I am not diminishing those great men in any way...nor could I do that. But it is not true to say that any of them made a breakthrough in science. 

You are 1000% correct about that!

Rev

   hahaha

I see you and joker have on your comedian hats tonight.

Rev

suure . . . we understand the desperate need to cover [the implications of] your nakedness with nervous, self deprecating? humor

i'd try the smokescreen too were i in your shoes

I have been in Corporate America for 18 years, if a few resumes (all new grads) come to a Manager, they usually go for the person who went to the best college. 

Start prepping them early for the SAT'S.  I bought the book and started working on it with my daughter, she just turned 15. If she gets a scholarship I am retiring and following my dream of owning a McDonald's which should pay for the other one's college should she not get a scholarship. I guess it pays to dream.

Jersey has some good Engineering schools NJIT and Stevens is even better.  For New York I think NYIT. 

redux/TK:

We all know that you are quite adept at smokescreen---like trying to hide from the forum the fact that redux and TK are the same person.hahahahaha

Rev

Hubby and I have our eyes set on Columbia, if they don't make it our next choice is NYU...Kids input are needed when they get older, so hopefully they go for these schools.

Would you be needing an Executive Aloo Peeler?