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A source from the mining community of Linden has revealed that yesterday's relegation of APNU MP Vanessa Kissoon to the back bench in parliament is as a result of her support for Aubrey Norton in his battle with a group led by David Granger in the PNC. The source said both Kissoon and Region Ten Chairman, Sharma Solomon are Norton's proteges and both were outspoken in their criticisms after Norton was once again by-passed for a parliamentary position.

 

 

Norton recently laid blame on a small clique of Peoples National Congress Reform (PNCR) members for undermining and ostracising him from the centre of that party’s leadership. He said that he's being  sidelined owing to his support for Carl Greenidge during his battle with David Granger for the PNCR's leadership.

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Originally Posted by Conscience:

A source from the mining community of Linden has revealed that yesterday's relegation of APNU MP Vanessa Kissoon to the back bench in parliament is as a result of her support for Aubrey Norton in his battle with a group led by David Granger in the PNC. The source said both Kissoon and Region Ten Chairman, Sharma Solomon are Norton's proteges and both were outspoken in their criticisms after Norton was once again by-passed for a parliamentary position.

 

 

Norton recently laid blame on a small clique of Peoples National Congress Reform (PNCR) members for undermining and ostracising him from the centre of that party’s leadership. He said that he's being  sidelined owing to his support for Carl Greenidge during his battle with David Granger for the PNCR's leadership.

thanks for the info

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

A source from the mining community of Linden has revealed that yesterday's relegation of APNU MP Vanessa Kissoon to the back bench in parliament is as a result of her support for Aubrey Norton in his battle with a group led by David Granger in the PNC. The source said both Kissoon and Region Ten Chairman, Sharma Solomon are Norton's proteges and both were outspoken in their criticisms after Norton was once again by-passed for a parliamentary position.

 

 

Norton recently laid blame on a small clique of Peoples National Congress Reform (PNCR) members for undermining and ostracising him from the centre of that party’s leadership. He said that he's being  sidelined owing to his support for Carl Greenidge during his battle with David Granger for the PNCR's leadership.

so that, it is their business. 

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

What goes on in the National Assembly is everyone's business, they are elected officials representing their constituents.

then tell us why Ganga was axed. The assembly is  an extension of government of which the President is the head. How come when Jagdeo lied to us that he had a wife and when said wife said she endured years if torment at his hands it was "his business"?

FM

After amassing over ten years in parliamentary experience, A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) parliamentarian Vanessa Kissoon was yesterday unceremoniously relegated further down the back bench in the National Assembly. The move was seen as a demotion prompting fresh murmurs of a power struggle within the PNC.
Kissoon was only made aware of her new seating arrangement yesterday when a Parliament Office staff member informed her. No one from APNU related to her that she would have been moved to the last row.

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

After amassing over ten years in parliamentary experience, A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) parliamentarian Vanessa Kissoon was yesterday unceremoniously relegated further down the back bench in the National Assembly. The move was seen as a demotion prompting fresh murmurs of a power struggle within the PNC.
Kissoon was only made aware of her new seating arrangement yesterday when a Parliament Office staff member informed her. No one from APNU related to her that she would have been moved to the last row.

The lady does not need you to characterize her position. Surely she can speak for herself if she is aggrieved.

 

 

Now tell us what kind of man lies to the nation that he has a wife and brutalizes said wife?

FM

Was Kissoon demoted because she favored Norton her follow Lindener to occupy Backer's seat? Norton was very out spoken about the small group at congress place who axed him? Is Vanessa Kissoon their next victim?

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

Was Kissoon demoted because she favored Norton her follow Lindener to occupy Backer's seat? Norton was very out spoken about the small group at congress place who axed him? Is Vanessa Kissoon their next victim?

So she lost an internal battle....so what...she is still with the party. If she feel victimized she can characterize it as such.

FM

Her demotion will not sit well with the constituents who supported her, its a slap in her face to be told upon arrival at the National Assembly by a parliament office staff, that she's demoted to the back bench.

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

Her demotion will not sit well with the constituents who supported her, its a slap in her face to be told upon arrival at the National Assembly by a parliament office staff, that she's demoted to the back bench.

Then offer her a prominent ministerial position so she jump ship. You have lots of knuckle heads who would not be missed.

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

Vanessa Kissoon should not allow to be bullied by Granger and his "small crew" at congress place.


Why don't you mind you own house business and haul you old harse from the place.  Like you want a come a tek way Gail from you or what?

FM
Originally Posted by KishanB:
Originally Posted by Conscience:

Vanessa Kissoon should not allow to be bullied by Granger and his "small crew" at congress place.


Why don't you mind you own house business and haul you old harse from the place.  Like you want a come a tek way Gail from you or what?

Vanessa can vote with the PPP now and if thrown out can become a next Presidential Advisor to Ramo. Wah you say Ramo? You love to bring in the  PNC/APNU failures

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

Vanessa Kissoon should not allow to be bullied by Granger and his "small crew" at congress place.

Conscience, as the duly elected leader of the PNC, David Granger is entitled to pick a parliamentary team he has absolute confidence in. Further, he is entitled to place his individual team members in any seat order according to his considered judgement.

Having said that, Mr Granger should have shown Ms Kissoon some courtesy by informing her before the sitting of the seat change.

 

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

Was Kissoon demoted because she favored Norton her follow Lindener to occupy Backer's seat? Norton was very out spoken about the small group at congress place who axed him? Is Vanessa Kissoon their next victim?

Tell why JAGDEO lied to the world that he was married?

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by Conscience:

Vanessa Kissoon should not allow to be bullied by Granger and his "small crew" at congress place.

Conscience, as the duly elected leader of the PNC, David Granger is entitled to pick a parliamentary team he has absolute confidence in. Further, he is entitled to place his individual team members in any seat order according to his considered judgement.

Having said that, Mr Granger should have shown Ms Kissoon some courtesy by informing her before the sitting of the seat change.

 

And President Ramotar, THE EXECUTIVE PRESIDENT OF THE COOPERATIVE REPUBLIC OF GUYANA don't have that RIGHT????????

Nehru
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by Conscience:

Vanessa Kissoon should not allow to be bullied by Granger and his "small crew" at congress place.

Conscience, as the duly elected leader of the PNC, David Granger is entitled to pick a parliamentary team he has absolute confidence in. Further, he is entitled to place his individual team members in any seat order according to his considered judgement.

Having said that, Mr Granger should have shown Ms Kissoon some courtesy by informing her before the sitting of the seat change.

 

And President Ramotar, THE EXECUTIVE PRESIDENT OF THE COOPERATIVE REPUBLIC OF GUYANA don't have that RIGHT????????

Bhai, me nah question Prezzie's right fo pick he parlament team.

All party leaders enjoy that right as a matter of course.

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by Conscience:

Vanessa Kissoon should not allow to be bullied by Granger and his "small crew" at congress place.

Conscience, as the duly elected leader of the PNC, David Granger is entitled to pick a parliamentary team he has absolute confidence in. Further, he is entitled to place his individual team members in any seat order according to his considered judgement.

Having said that, Mr Granger should have shown Ms Kissoon some courtesy by informing her before the sitting of the seat change.

 

And President Ramotar, THE EXECUTIVE PRESIDENT OF THE COOPERATIVE REPUBLIC OF GUYANA don't have that RIGHT????????

Bhai, me nah question Prezzie's right fo pick he parlament team.

All party leaders enjoy that right as a matter of course.

So why Al YUh tellin he to change Rohee, Pooey and Lohey????!!!!

Nehru
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by Conscience:

Vanessa Kissoon should not allow to be bullied by Granger and his "small crew" at congress place.

Conscience, as the duly elected leader of the PNC, David Granger is entitled to pick a parliamentary team he has absolute confidence in. Further, he is entitled to place his individual team members in any seat order according to his considered judgement.

Having said that, Mr Granger should have shown Ms Kissoon some courtesy by informing her before the sitting of the seat change.

 

And President Ramotar, THE EXECUTIVE PRESIDENT OF THE COOPERATIVE REPUBLIC OF GUYANA don't have that RIGHT????????

Bhai, me nah question Prezzie's right fo pick he parlament team.

All party leaders enjoy that right as a matter of course.

So why Al YUh tellin he to change Rohee, Pooey and Lohey????!!!!

Al YUh? Nah me.

Whoever the PPP sends to parliament is the PPP business.

Rohee's name was on the list, after all.

 

FM

Granger has the power of the recall legislation, Vanessa Kissoon is seemly very quiet, which is not her normally character, is she afraid of speaking out? if she does, Granger can recall her...

FM

Letter writer and PNC insider Minette Bacchus recently revealed that the parliamentary demotion of Vanessa Kissoon had its genesis in a falling out the APNU member of parliament had with Amna Ally who is close to David Granger. Kissoon was recently dumped to the back benches by her party and the issue created quite a stir owing to the fact that she wasn't prior informed of her new seating arrangements.

 

Writing in a letter published by one opposition media house Bacchus said "Kissoon was moved to prove a point, to clip her wings, to show who is boss" In describing what took place she said it was a naked abuse of power. Kissoon is said to have offended Amna Ally during an outreach in Linden. The two reportedly exchanged harsh words and it is said that Ally was instrumental in causing her removal to the back bench in parliament as punishment.

FM

PNCR suspends Vanessa Kissoon over altercation

JUNE 27, 2014 · BY STAFF WRITER · 0 COMMENTS   NEXT ARTICLE »

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People’s National Congress Reform (PNCR) member, Vanessa Kissoon was suspended by the Central Executive of the party on Wednesday, reliable sources say, but up to yesterday she told Stabroek News that she had not been officially notified of this

Kissoon, also a Member of Parliament for APNIU, of which the PNCR is the main component, also pointed out that there is an established procedure for disciplining members which has not been activated against her.

Sources told Stabroek News that the suspension came following an incident between Kissoon and a senior member of the PNCR. This newspaper was unable to contact Congress Place officials for comment yesterday.

 

Vanessa Kissoon

Contacted by Stabroek News, Kissoon said “I have not been notified by the Central Executive Committee or any disciplinary authority of the party of any disciplinary action, or proposed disciplinary action intended against me. I have heard from sources however that last evening, Wednesday 25 June [the] Central Executive has suspended me.”

Kissoon, who has a support base in Linden and had a heightened public profile during the unrest in the mining town two years ago, said that under the party’s Constitution, Article 24 (16) Disciplinary Procedures “the member against whom the complaint has been made must be given in writing a short statement setting out clearly, with reasonable particulars the nature of the allegations against him.”

The PNC constitution continues that “the member must be given a reasonable opportunity to defend himself and to call witnesses and produce documents relevant to his defence” as well as “the member shall have the right to be assisted at the inquiry by a party member of his/her choice.”

Kissoon made it clear that none of the procedures were followed “so the issue of me being suspended, just like that, if taken seriously would be in violation of the constitution.”

Stabroek News was made to understand that there were differences over the use of PNCR facilities in Linden. Locks on the facilities were changed and this subsequently led to an altercation involving Kissoon.

Kissoon acknowledged that she was aware of a specific incident, but that it would not in her opinion warrant a suspension without due process. She said that “I also know of no incident that would exclude the action of the other party involved coming under serious sanctioning if my actions are seen as a worthy of sanction. It takes two to tango and every action has a reaction.”

She said that she did not wish to further comment on the reported suspension until she was contacted by the PNC. Kissoon did however state that “I seriously doubt if the Leader of our Party, Mr David Granger, would preside over the Party’s Central Executive in a manner that is unconstitutional. It would not set a right precedent nor standard of practice for the party or any of its many young people.”

Unknown to her, Kissoon, a Member of Parliament since 2006, was moved earlier this year from the second row of APNU’s parliamentary contingent to a back seat. When asked about this, Granger, told Stabroek News that consequent to the resignation of MP Deborah Backer, the opposition coalition had to make some changes. He said that among those changes was to move MP Ronald Bulkan from the back bench. Bulkan now sits in the front bench alongside Granger and MPs Basil Williams, Amna Ally and Dr. Rupert Roopnaraine.

According to Granger, “It was an administrative move.”

Kissoon had said then to Stabroek News, “I am here to represent the people of Guyana and the people of Region Ten who elected me to fill a seat in Parliament.”

She said that in spite of the move to the back bench, she would continue to serve the country and the people who placed her in the Assembly. “It bothers me not where I am seated. My voice will still be heard. I am not worried because I am there for the people,” she added.

 

extracted from the Stabroeknews

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

It wouldn't come as no surprise if Granger uses the recall legislation against Vanessa Kissoon, it appears the opposition is mainly consists of yes man and yes woman.

why the hell do we give a damn about this? How come ramotar has had some three years and has not reported to us why NCN crooks are not  punished?  The PPP has a group of people who are reshuffled from portfolio to portfolio so obviously we do not have thinking beings here but the semblance of a corporate. DO not distract us with piffle. Tell us about things that has meaning.

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

It wouldn't come as no surprise if Granger uses the recall legislation against Vanessa Kissoon, it appears the opposition is mainly consists of yes man and yes woman.

when guyana make a next comedy movie you will be the star boy

FM

The Vanessa Kissoon saga, is very interesting, coming from a political party who wants to support a vote of no confidence, a political party who can't even get their house in order...smh.

FM
Originally Posted by warrior:
Originally Posted by Conscience:

It wouldn't come as no surprise if Granger uses the recall legislation against Vanessa Kissoon, it appears the opposition is mainly consists of yes man and yes woman.

when guyana make a next comedy movie you will be the star boy

Gay Porn?

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by warrior:
Originally Posted by Conscience:

It wouldn't come as no surprise if Granger uses the recall legislation against Vanessa Kissoon, it appears the opposition is mainly consists of yes man and yes woman.

when guyana make a next comedy movie you will be the star boy

Gay Porn?

then he will be the star girl fag

FM

The leaked info out of congress place is a public embarrassment to A.P.N.U, its goons seems to be at full throttle trying to derail the thread away from the in-fighting within the camp...

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

The leaked info out of congress place is a public embarrassment to A.P.N.U, its goons seems to be at full throttle trying to derail the thread away from the in-fighting within the camp...

at least the APNU IS KICKING PEOPLE OUT BUT THE PEOPLE IN THE PPP IS RUNNING FROM FREEDUM HOUSE.ASK RALPH

FM

A Partnership for National Unity’s (APNU) candidate, Aubrey Norton on Tuesday blamed a small unnamed clique of Peoples National Congress Reform (PNCR) members for undermining and ostracising him from the centre of that party’s leadership.

His comments came against the background that Medical Doctor Karen Cummings was being considered to replace ailing Debra Backer who is expected to resign as an APNU parliamentarian. Backer, APNU’s Shadow Minister on Foreign Affairs, is expected to remain in Trinidad until April which means that if she is not replaced the combined opposition would be without the crucial one-seat majority to disapprove sections or all of the 2014 National Budget.

While many inside and outside the PNCR and APNU believe that Norton is the best person to fill the void because of his political experience as well as expertise in International Relations, he said has not been approached about his availability and so he was not expected to be called.

“When it comes to my ability, I have no doubt about that but I always knew that the present political dispensation will always generate those kinds of problems so I don’t think I will feel any different. I fact, I would have been surprised if I was the person identified,” he told Demerara Waves Online News (www.demwaves.com).

 

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FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by Conscience:

Conscience, as the duly elected leader of the PNC, David Granger is entitled to pick a parliamentary team he has absolute confidence in. Further, he is entitled to place his individual team members in any seat order according to his considered judgement.

Having said that, Mr Granger should have shown Ms Kissoon some courtesy by informing her before the sitting of the seat change.

 

Neither Granger nor Ramotar have the right to pick their parliamentary teams.  That power resides with the people.  That right that you speak of was inserted into the constitution by leaders of the political parties the better to browbeat their members into sycophancy.  That is a nefarious piece in the Constitution - there are others- that needs to be removed.

FM

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