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Yesterday while driving to work, I was listening to the songs from Silsila and had a thought about the reaction to certain behavior. I have seen comments from Chami regarding Rekha and Amitabh. Although mentioned here is the issues of Amitabh/Rekha and Dharmendra/Hema, it has less to do about them than it does bout our acceptance/rejection of behavior. I suspect that Chami is against Rekha because of her affinity to Amitabh. It is my observation that Rekha was subjected to more ridicule than Hema was. In fact, I cannot remember Hema being subjected to any ridicule. Is this because we have always perceived Hema as the decent belle as opposed to Rekha being more of a sex symbol?

 

The real question is; are we inclined to accept/reject words/actions/behavior based on our affinity to the perpetrator of them?

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Cham my baby  my answer has nothing to do with what you said about any of the stars.

I am speaking from what happens in real life. If someone  sister give her husband blow you hear that person advising please make up, forgive, think about the children. If the other way around you hear leave his cheating ass.

As a community leader and someone who has been around I have seen that played out over and over since in Guyana.

 

Chief
Originally Posted by ksazma:

 

The real question is; are we inclined to accept/reject words/actions/behavior based on our affinity to the perpetrator of them?

 

* It's human nature.

 

* We will turn a blind eye to the flaws, faults and blemishes of those we admire, respect, or have an affinity for, while lambasting and bludgeoning others with identical flaws, faults and blemishes because we don't care for them or have no attachment to them.

 

 

 

* Hema Malini was a darling to hundreds of millions of Indians.

 

* Her fans turned a blind eye when she coveted another woman's husband and brought unhappiness to that woman.

 

 

* Bubba continued to be adored by democrats after he did his wickedness in the oval office; his detractors despised him.

 

BOTTOM LINE:

 

* It is human nature to forgive the imperfections in those we admire and have an attachment to, while at the same time condemning others for the same imperfections just because we don't care for them or have an attachment to them.

 

Rev

 

FM
Originally Posted by chameli:

yes indeed, we forgive the ones we love IF WE LOVE THEM ENOUGH to live with the wrong...it takes more than faith and strength to make a relationship work after one person cheats ...sometimes the other partner cheats for revenge...which makes life even harder

 

Jaya Bhadhuri is a woman of strength

i am glad that Amit never left her for Rekha (and i feel sorry for Rekha who married several times and could not keep a man...maybe because she prefers |Farzana)

My wife is Jaya Bhaduri

Chief
Originally Posted by chameli:

yes indeed, we forgive the ones we love IF WE LOVE THEM ENOUGH to live with the wrong...it takes more than faith and strength to make a relationship work after one person cheats ...sometimes the other partner cheats for revenge...which makes life even harder

 

Jaya Bhadhuri is a woman of strength

i am glad that Amit never left her for Rekha (and i feel sorry for Rekha who married several times and could not keep a man...maybe because she prefers |Farzana)

maybe she thinks about me all the time that is why her marriage cannot work

FM
Originally Posted by chameli:

 

Jaya Bhadhuri is a woman of strength

i am glad that Amit never left her for Rekha

 

 

* Amit is the one who should consider his rass lucky Jaya didn't send him packing.

 

* Had it not been for Jaya---Amit would not have reached the top of the mountain.

 

* Decades ago, when no major actress was keen on working with tall and lanky Amit---it was Jaya who worked with him---and they had some huge hits together---Zanjeer, Abhimaan, Chupke Chupke, Sholay.

 

* It surely takes a strong woman to forgive a betrayal.

 

Rev

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by chameli:

 

Jaya Bhadhuri is a woman of strength

i am glad that Amit never left her for Rekha

 

 

* Amit is the one who should consider his rass lucky Jaya didn't send him packing.

 

* Had it not been for Jaya---Amit would not have reached the top of the mountain.

 

* Decades ago, when no major actress was keen on working with tall and lanky Amit---it was Jaya who worked with him---and they had some huge hits together---Zanjeer, Abhimaan, Chupke Chupke, Sholay.

 

* It surely takes a strong woman to forgive a betrayal.

 

Rev

 

 

how about i die for mama

FM
Originally Posted by warrior:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by chameli:

 

Jaya Bhadhuri is a woman of strength

i am glad that Amit never left her for Rekha

 

 

* Amit is the one who should consider his rass lucky Jaya didn't send him packing.

 

* Had it not been for Jaya---Amit would not have reached the top of the mountain.

 

* Decades ago, when no major actress was keen on working with tall and lanky Amit---it was Jaya who worked with him---and they had some huge hits together---Zanjeer, Abhimaan, Chupke Chupke, Sholay.

 

* It surely takes a strong woman to forgive a betrayal.

 

Rev

 

 

how about i die for mama

 okay guys what is the first movie AMIT star in that come to guyana

FM
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by warrior:
Originally Posted by ksazma:

Anand. Although he was not the star

you ever see a movie name Bombay to GOA

No. But it is not as old as Anand which was Amitabh's second movie after Saat Hindustani.

i think i see Anand and it was after bombay to GOA,not suee about saat hindustani

FM
Originally Posted by warrior:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by warrior:
Originally Posted by ksazma:

Anand. Although he was not the star

you ever see a movie name Bombay to GOA

No. But it is not as old as Anand which was Amitabh's second movie after Saat Hindustani.

i think i see Anand and it was after bombay to GOA,not suee about saat hindustani

Maybe Bombay to Goa got to Guyana first because Anand was a hit movie (Rajesh won Filmfare's Best Actor award for it) so we had to wait until all the privileged around the world were finished with it.

FM

Moviestars live in a different world and can get off scott free with almost anything. Hema, Rekha & Zeenat were together on one of Karan Johar's talk shows. He asked them very personal questions like those on this thread. They admitted that the things they did in their personal lives could never have been possible if they weren't Bollywood stars. Zeenat was Sanjay Khan's 2nd wife, but he was only using her to finance one of his hit movies. After the movie's release, he and his first wife beat Zeenat to a pulp; she had major surgery, but one eye never fully recovered. 

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by ksazma:

 

The real question is; are we inclined to accept/reject words/actions/behavior based on our affinity to the perpetrator of them?

 

* It's human nature.

 

* We will turn a blind eye to the flaws, faults and blemishes of those we admire, respect, or have an affinity for, while lambasting and bludgeoning others with identical flaws, faults and blemishes because we don't care for them or have no attachment to them.

 

BOTTOM LINE:

* It is human nature to forgive the imperfections in those we admire and have an attachment to, while at the same time condemning others for the same imperfections just because we don't care for them or have an attachment to them.

 

Rev

 

Rev, here is a different/another perspective:

We forgive/accept the flaws of those we love and when we see those same flaws in others we are less judgmental because we've already had the experience. Let me see if I can illustrate this with an example: Let's suppose that your daughter gets pregnant out of wedlock (and this is culturally frowned upon), then you read/hear about another family who has this same experience, you will lean toward empathy, not criticism. 

FM
Originally Posted by Miraver:
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Rev, here is a different/another perspective:

We forgive/accept the flaws of those we love and when we see those same flaws in others we are less judgmental because we've already had the experience. Let me see if I can illustrate this with an example: Let's suppose that your daughter gets pregnant out of wedlock (and this is culturally frowned upon), then you read/hear about another family who has this same experience, you will lean toward empathy, not criticism. 


Miraver:

 

* Interesting! Interesting! Interesting!

 

* You have me thinking here.

 

* You added important behavior like judgment and empathy to the equation.

 

* I like your perspective Mira---very mature thinking---the Rev is impressed.

 

* Lemme see if I understand you---I'll use another example.

 

* Are you saying that if, for example, the Rev cheats on his wife, then if he reads about Dharmendra cheating on his wife or Amitabh cheating on Jaya or Clinton cheating on Hillary, he would be more forgiving of their actions and be less likely to condemn them or judge their actions harshly ?

 

* So a cheating Rev will not condemn or criticize or harshly judge Dharmendra, Amitabh, or Bill Clinton's adultery---and because of his own cheating---he can forgive or justify or rationalize such behavior.

 

* But a faithful Rev would likely condemn and judge harshly the cheating actions of Dharmendra, Amitabh and Bill.

 

* Hmmmm! SO WE JUDGE WHEN WE DON'T UNDERSTAND.

 

* HUMAN BEHAVIOR IS INTERESTING AND FASCINATING.

 

Rev

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Miraver:
===

Rev, here is a different/another perspective:

We forgive/accept the flaws of those we love and when we see those same flaws in others we are less judgmental because we've already had the experience. Let me see if I can illustrate this with an example: Let's suppose that your daughter gets pregnant out of wedlock (and this is culturally frowned upon), then you read/hear about another family who has this same experience, you will lean toward empathy, not criticism. 


Miraver:

 

* Interesting! Interesting! Interesting!

 

* You have me thinking here.

 

* You added important behavior like judgment and empathy to the equation.

 

* I like your perspective Mira---very mature thinking---the Rev is impressed.

 

* Lemme see if I understand you---I'll use another example.

 

* Are you saying that if, for example, the Rev cheats on his wife, then if he reads about Dharmendra cheating on his wife or Amitabh cheating on Jaya or Clinton cheating on Hillary, he would be more forgiving of their actions and be less likely to condemn them or judge their actions harshly ?

 

* So a cheating Rev will not condemn or criticize or harshly judge Dharmendra, Amitabh, or Bill Clinton's adultery---and because of his own cheating---he can forgive or justify or rationalize such behavior.

 

* But a faithful Rev would likely condemn and judge harshly the cheating actions of Dharmendra, Amitabh and Bill.

 

* Hmmmm! SO WE JUDGE WHEN WE DON'T UNDERSTAND.

 

* HUMAN BEHAVIOR IS INTERESTING AND FASCINATING.

 

Rev

Ah, so the Rev wants to engage me in conversation

Let's see...

Not so long ago you expounded on the philosophy/concept/theory that "the next ...is the best..." Since you hold that view, I think you would won't "condemn". 

 

Yes, we "judge" when we don't understand. Let's suppose that a child goes to school on a cold day without long pants and a sweater. Some might direct some negativity toward the parents- why those parents send their child to school dressed like that??? However, who knows their SES?

 

You might drive by a Middle or High School and see young women dressed inappropriately for school...the parents get blamed. Those parents leave home before those young people and get home after them as well.

 

Now about posters impressing you with their responses, here's the question:

What are your expectations of your fellow posters?

 

Have I taken Ksazma's thread off track?

FM
Originally Posted by Miraver:
 

 

Now about posters impressing you with their responses, here's the question:

What are your expectations of your fellow posters?

 


Mira:

 

* I have a simple answer.

 

* My expectations of posters on this board are zero, zilch, nada, nothing.

 

* Of course, if someone posts something interesting I'll pay them a genuine compliment---for example, I was quite impressed with the perspective you shared earlier.

 

* Anyway, I like all the posters on GNI---including the ones who hate and despise my politics.

 

Click on the link:

 

https://guyana.crowdstack.io/topic/at...loyal-ppp-supporters

 

* This is a nice community here----it's fun posting here and sharing ideas and thoughts.

 

* The day I get bored--that's when I'll leave.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by ksazma:

Yesterday while driving to work, I was listening to the songs from Silsila and had a thought about the reaction to certain behavior. I have seen comments from Chami regarding Rekha and Amitabh. Although mentioned here is the issues of Amitabh/Rekha and Dharmendra/Hema, it has less to do about them than it does bout our acceptance/rejection of behavior. I suspect that Chami is against Rekha because of her affinity to Amitabh. It is my observation that Rekha was subjected to more ridicule than Hema was. In fact, I cannot remember Hema being subjected to any ridicule. Is this because we have always perceived Hema as the decent belle as opposed to Rekha being more of a sex symbol?

 

The real question is; are we inclined to accept/reject words/actions/behavior based on our affinity to the perpetrator of them?

Yes!

FM

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