“Look after each other and look out for each other” –President Ramotar urges Lusignan

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“Look after each other and look out for each other” – President Ramotar urges Lusignan residents during the season of goodwill

Georgetown GINA, December 18, 2011
Source - GINA

President Donald Ramotar addresses Lusignan Residents at pre-Christmas gathering

President Donald Ramotar today urged Lusignan residents to “be our brothers and sisters keepers”. The President was attending a pre-Christmas gathering of residents, at the Lusignan Sports Club. The gathering included survivors of the Lusignan Massacre which took place in January 2009.

The President observed that the terrible event was organized by “some mindless criminal elements who were obviously being used for political purposes.”

Nevertheless, President Ramotar urged survivors and other residents to overcome their feelings, “and try to work very hard to ensure that something like that never happens again in our country. For that reason, we should all be our brothers and sisters keepers. Look after each other and look out for each other. In this period of goodwill, the season of goodwill, I think it is an appropriate time for us to remember that message for all mankind.”

President Ramotar presents a Christmas hamper to Mr. Nadir Mohamed, a survivor of the Lusignan Massacre of 2009. Mr. Mohamed lost his only son Shazam Mohamed who was one of eleven persons killed

The President emphasised that this must be at all times, “whether in happy times or in difficult times, we must all ensure that we have solidarity with each other.”

He stressed on the particular importance of that pointing to the fact that Guyanese live in a very multi-ethnic, multi-cultural society. President Ramotar said despite each person has had his or her own experiences and come from all kinds of backgrounds, all Guyanese share things that are common.

“We all share a love for this country. We all strive for the same thing, and we want a better life for ourselves. We want a better life for our children. We want a better life for our grandchildren,” he said, adding “I know all of us share those same aspirations, no matter where you come from. As long as you are a parent, as long as you are human, you have to share those common values. It is something that we must treasure.”

Ms. Nita Ramotar, daughter of President Donald Ramotar assists in handing out Christmas hampers to Lusignan residents

President Ramotar urged the gathering not to allow themselves to be used in the race game for political ends.

The gathering at the Lusignan Sports Club is an annual event that began after the Lusignan Massacre. Survivors and other residents, mainly senior citizens are treated to a lavish Christmas spread and given hampers of Christmas treats. Businesses that contributed to the event included P. Ramroop and Sons, Guyana Rice Development Board, Ricks and Sari and Budget Supercentre.

Attorney General and Minister of Legal Affairs Anil Nandalall was also present at the gathering, and extended his thanks to members of the community for supporting the event. Also present was Ms. Nita Ramotar, daughter of the President who assisted with the distribution of the hampers.

Attorney General and Minister of Legal Affairs Anil Nandalall address Lusignan residents. Also at head table from left: Ms. Nita Ramotar, daughter of the President, Director of Sport Mr. Neil Kumar, Attorney General Anil Nandalall, President Donald Ramotar, Member of Parliament Mrs. Indra Chandrapal

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Former Member

Lusignan is a Hindu society and there isn't a single christain church in that dustrict.
What the President is trying to pull.

These people need a police outpost in the area. he needs to send in the troops are arrested all the forty kids who attacked annandale from Buxton, betaing poor old ladies when their husbands had gone to work..

12/19/119:34 AM

NehruBig Mouth Member

Bhai, There are Christian Churches and at least one Mosque in Lusignan.

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
Lusignan is a Hindu society and there isn't a single christain church in that dustrict.
What the President is trying to pull.

These people need a police outpost in the area. he needs to send in the troops are arrested all the forty kids who attacked annandale from Buxton, betaing poor old ladies when their husbands had gone to work..

12/19/1110:49 AM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by Ramakant_p:

What the President is trying to pull.
..

Did your PPP ever bother to find and punish those who commited murder in Lusignan, especially the ones who killed the kids?

NO!!!!!

But you still support them.

12/19/1110:53 AM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
Lusignan is a Hindu society and there isn't a single christain church in that dustrict.
What the President is trying to pull.

These people need a police outpost in the area. he needs to send in the troops are arrested all the forty kids who attacked annandale from Buxton, betaing poor old ladies when their husbands had gone to work..

You are off base, these are the act of a poor and oppressed people acting out their frustrations. Even Burnham did them so bad that they only survived by kicking down the doors of Indians and robbing and looting them blind. Now the PPP doing the same to them, so stop pointing fingers and look in the mirror. I tell my frinds here in GT to accept robbery from Afros as a form of reparation for the ills we Indians have done since we landed and took away the plantation jobs. If you think like this, you will feel good about righting a historical wrong.

12/19/1110:59 AM

Former Member

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Originally posted by Sledgehammer:
quote:
Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
Lusignan is a Hindu society and there isn't a single christain church in that dustrict.
What the President is trying to pull.

These people need a police outpost in the area. he needs to send in the troops are arrested all the forty kids who attacked annandale from Buxton, betaing poor old ladies when their husbands had gone to work..

You are off base, these are the act of a poor and oppressed people acting out their frustrations. Even Burnham did them so bad that they only survived by kicking down the doors of Indians and robbing and looting them blind. Now the PPP doing the same to them, so stop pointing fingers and look in the mirror. I tell my frinds here in GT to accept robbery from Afros as a form of reparation for the ills we Indians have done since we landed and took away the plantation jobs. If you think like this, you will feel good about righting a historical wrong.

no, we are not doing the same to them.
all crimes must be punished.

12/19/1111:06 AM

Former Member

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Originally posted by Sledgehammer:

I tell my frinds here in GT to accept robbery from Afros as a form of reparation for the ills we Indians have done since we landed and took away the plantation jobs.

Indians NEVER took away plantation jobs when they were brought to Guyana, starting around 1832.

12/19/1112:34 PM

Former Member

sledgehammer - i need a chainsaw through that air of sarcasm there bro

12/19/112:10 PM

Former Member

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Originally posted by caribj:
quote:
Originally posted by Ramakant_p:

What the President is trying to pull.
..

Did your PPP ever bother to find and punish those who commited murder in Lusignan, especially the ones who killed the kids?

NO!!!!!

But you still support them.

The murders were committed by your people, whom you defended.

It's time to arrest those who are guilty.

12/19/112:13 PM

Former Member

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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
quote:
Originally posted by Sledgehammer:

I tell my frinds here in GT to accept robbery from Afros as a form of reparation for the ills we Indians have done since we landed and took away the plantation jobs.

Indians NEVER took away plantation jobs when they were brought to Guyana, starting around 1832.

Indians were brought in to undercut free labor.

12/19/112:20 PM

Former Member

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
quote:
Originally posted by caribj:
quote:
Originally posted by Ramakant_p:

What the President is trying to pull.
..

Did your PPP ever bother to find and punish those who commited murder in Lusignan, especially the ones who killed the kids?

NO!!!!!

But you still support them.

The murders were committed by your people, whom you defended.

It's time to arrest those who are guilty.

If u know these suckers lets arrest them!

12/19/112:21 PM

Former Member

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Originally posted by D2:
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
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Originally posted by Sledgehammer:

I tell my frinds here in GT to accept robbery from Afros as a form of reparation for the ills we Indians have done since we landed and took away the plantation jobs.

Indians NEVER took away plantation jobs when they were brought to Guyana, starting around 1832.

Indians were brought in to undercut free labor.

Specifically in which way, in 1832?

12/19/112:38 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
[Indians NEVER took away plantation jobs when they were brought to Guyana, starting around 1832.

Indentured workers were brought in by the planters to ensure an alternate supply of labor to that provided by the ex slaves. This became imperative after the 1842 strikes when these exslaves were able to extract better wages from the planters.

So the indentures did take away work from the ex slaves. Once the ex slaves were pushed out of sugar they were used as scabs by the planters every time the indentures (by the mainly Indian) went on strike. The two streams of labor were used to offset each other.

12/19/113:04 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by Sledgehammer:
. I tell my frinds here in GT to accept robbery from Afros as a form of reparation for the ills we Indians have done since we landed and took away the plantation jobs..

Given that the ones who suffer most from robbery are the ones who benefitted least in the post indenture period (non elite Indos...the rich ones like druggie's family can afford protection) this I assume is a joke. There is no excuse for this and they owe reparations to none. What AfroGuyanese want is a level playing field and meritocracy...no favors.

It also implies that most Afros are criminals and also arent victimized by crime.

12/19/113:07 PM

Former Member

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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:

Specifically in which way, in 1832?[/QUOTE]

Pick a a history book and read it. Focus especially on the successful strike of 1842 and 1848 strike which failed because there were sufficient alternate labor (West Indian blacks, Portuguese and Indians) to undermine them.

12/19/113:08 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
Lusignan is a Hindu society and there isn't a single christain church in that dustrict.
What the President is trying to pull.

These people need a police outpost in the area. he needs to send in the troops are arrested all the forty kids who attacked annandale from Buxton, betaing poor old ladies when their husbands had gone to work..

rama you start discing your president already.

12/19/113:34 PM

Former Member

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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It's time to arrest those who are guilty.

So whay hasbt the PPP done so...yet they refuse to and yet you support them so clearly you arent disturbed that banditry goes unpunished by the PPP even though its mainly their supporters who were affected.

12/19/114:48 PM

Former Member

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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
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Originally posted by D2:
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
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Originally posted by Sledgehammer:

I tell my frinds here in GT to accept robbery from Afros as a form of reparation for the ills we Indians have done since we landed and took away the plantation jobs.

Indians NEVER took away plantation jobs when they were brought to Guyana, starting around 1832.

Indians were brought in to undercut free labor.

Specifically in which way, in 1832?

Specifically as a labor strategy knowing the apprenticeship period would be over. This is documented in the letters by Gladstone so we need not quibble over this.

12/19/115:02 PM

Former Member

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Originally posted by caribj:
quote:
Originally posted by Sledgehammer:
. I tell my frinds here in GT to accept robbery from Afros as a form of reparation for the ills we Indians have done since we landed and took away the plantation jobs..

Given that the ones who suffer most from robbery are the ones who benefitted least in the post indenture period (non elite Indos...the rich ones like druggie's family can afford protection) this I assume is a joke. There is no excuse for this and they owe reparations to none. What AfroGuyanese want is a level playing field and meritocracy...no favors.

It also implies that most Afros are criminals and also arent victimized by crime.

No, not all afros are criminals, i have many friends who are far from it. Also, there are Indo criminals running in our midst. However, the differance is Afros have the right as we Indians robbed them leverage when we arrived and was given preferential treatment by the Brits. Then LFSB/PNC ruled and allowed Indians to get rich taking away from Afros keeping them second class. Then PPP came along and marginalize Afros. So, as I see it, Afros does have the ligit right to rob and pillage from Indians as, collectively, we are responsible for the Afro situation. Most Indians don't understand that, but few in the AFC camp seem to. Indians, rich and poor, need to understand this and then Guyana becomes more livable.

I tell my Indian friends that sugar workers, etc ought to receive USD 100 per month so Afro civil servants get $500 afterall, Indians could come home, fish, garden and do stuff to compensate.

12/19/115:22 PM

seignetSenior Member

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Originally posted by D2:
quote:
Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
quote:
Originally posted by Sledgehammer:

I tell my frinds here in GT to accept robbery from Afros as a form of reparation for the ills we Indians have done since we landed and took away the plantation jobs.

Indians NEVER took away plantation jobs when they were brought to Guyana, starting around 1832.
Indians were brought in to undercut free labor.

Not according to John Gladstone.

Pln. Success was owned by Gladstone and when the 1823 Demerara Slave rebellion took place, it was Quamina and Jack(Father and son)who were considered to be the ring leaders. They were from Pln. Success.

Gladstone knew at that moment, even a though a kind but absentee plantation owner that his enterprise cannot be profitable by employing the African. Gladstone collected his compensation for the freed slaves and egaged lawyers to recruit the Dhangars who were massed shipped to Mauritius.

12/19/115:35 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by D2:

Specifically as a labor strategy knowing the apprenticeship period would be over. This is documented in the letters by Gladstone so we need not quibble over this.

This strategy was motivated by the fact that the plantocracy did not want an empowered labor force consisting of ex slaves.

12/19/115:35 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by caribj:
quote:
Originally posted by Ramakant_p:

What the President is trying to pull.
..

Did your PPP ever bother to find and punish those who commited murder in Lusignan, especially the ones who killed the kids?

NO!!!!!

But you still support them.

They should have run his silly ass out of there.

12/19/115:43 PM

seignetSenior Member

THe Apprenticeship period was brought to sudden end due to rebellious behavior of the slaves and the uprising lead by Damien. After the announcement of the end of the apprenticeship, many ex-slaves moved on.

12/19/115:48 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by caribj:
quote:
Originally posted by Ramakant_p:

What the President is trying to pull.
..

Did your PPP ever bother to find and punish those who commited murder in Lusignan, especially the ones who killed the kids?

NO!!!!!

But you still support them.

Well, they sitting in the APNU/PNC and still have guns. They waiting for the chance but worried about Phantoms.

12/19/115:49 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by seignet:
THe Apprenticeship period was brought to sudden end due to rebellious behavior of the slaves and the uprising lead by Damien. After the announcement of the end of the apprenticeship, many ex-slaves moved on.

It came to an end becaue it expired.

12/19/115:50 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by seignet:
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Originally posted by D2:
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
quote:
Originally posted by Sledgehammer:

I tell my frinds here in GT to accept robbery from Afros as a form of reparation for the ills we Indians have done since we landed and took away the plantation jobs.

Indians NEVER took away plantation jobs when they were brought to Guyana, starting around 1832.
Indians were brought in to undercut free labor.

Not according to John Gladstone.

Pln. Success was owned by Gladstone and when the 1823 Demerara Slave rebellion took place, it was Quamina and Jack(Father and son)who were considered to be the ring leaders. They were from Pln. Success.

Gladstone knew at that moment, even a though a kind but absentee plantation owner that his enterprise cannot be profitable by employing the African. Gladstone collected his compensation for the freed slaves and egaged lawyers to recruit the Dhangars who were massed shipped to Mauritius.

Source
Excerpt of above letter
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quote:

You will probably be aware that we are very particularly situated with our Negro apprentices in the West Indies, and that it is a matter of doubt and uncertainty how far they may be induced to continue their services on the plantations after their apprenticeship expires in 1840. This to us is a subject of great moment and deep interest in the colonies of Demerara and Jamaica. We are therefore most desirous to obtain and introduce labourers from other quarters, and particularly from climates something similar in their nature......

It is of great importance to us to endeavour to provide a portion of other labourers, whom we might use as a set-off, and, when the time for it comes, make us, as far as it is possible, independent of our negro population; and it has occurred to us that a moderate number of Bengalees, such as you were sending to the Isle of France, might be very suitable for our purpose

12/19/116:07 PM

seignetSenior Member

quote:
Originally posted by D2:
quote:
Originally posted by seignet:
THe Apprenticeship period was brought to sudden end due to rebellious behavior of the slaves and the uprising lead by Damien. After the announcement of the end of the apprenticeship, many ex-slaves moved on.
It came to an end becaue it expired.

The Apprenticehip period legally was more than 4 years. For field slaves and factory slaves the apprenticeship period were different.

12/19/116:40 PM

seignetSenior Member

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Originally posted by D2:
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Originally posted by seignet:
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Originally posted by D2:
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
quote:
Originally posted by Sledgehammer:

I tell my frinds here in GT to accept robbery from Afros as a form of reparation for the ills we Indians have done since we landed and took away the plantation jobs.

Indians NEVER took away plantation jobs when they were brought to Guyana, starting around 1832.
Indians were brought in to undercut free labor.

Not according to John Gladstone.

Pln. Success was owned by Gladstone and when the 1823 Demerara Slave rebellion took place, it was Quamina and Jack(Father and son)who were considered to be the ring leaders. They were from Pln. Success.

Gladstone knew at that moment, even a though a kind but absentee plantation owner that his enterprise cannot be profitable by employing the African. Gladstone collected his compensation for the freed slaves and egaged lawyers to recruit the Dhangars who were massed shipped to Mauritius.
Source
Excerpt of above letter
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quote:

You will probably be aware that we are very particularly situated with our Negro apprentices in the West Indies, and that it is a matter of doubt and uncertainty how far they may be induced to continue their services on the plantations after their apprenticeship expires in 1840. This to us is a subject of great moment and deep interest in the colonies of Demerara and Jamaica. We are therefore most desirous to obtain and introduce labourers from other quarters, and particularly from climates something similar in their nature......

It is of great importance to us to endeavour to provide a portion of other labourers, whom we might use as a set-off, and, when the time for it comes, make us, as far as it is possible, independent of our negro population; and it has occurred to us that a moderate number of Bengalees, such as you were sending to the Isle of France, might be very suitable for our purpose

That is generally what was peddled. But new information has surfaced since then. There is no mention of Gladstone owning Pln. Success only Vreed-n-hoop and Vreidstein. And his influences on the Demerara Slavr Ebellion.

12/19/116:45 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by seignet:
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Originally posted by D2:
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Originally posted by seignet:
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Originally posted by D2:
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
quote:
Originally posted by Sledgehammer:

I tell my frinds here in GT to accept robbery from Afros as a form of reparation for the ills we Indians have done since we landed and took away the plantation jobs.

Indians NEVER took away plantation jobs when they were brought to Guyana, starting around 1832.
Indians were brought in to undercut free labor.

Not according to John Gladstone.

Pln. Success was owned by Gladstone and when the 1823 Demerara Slave rebellion took place, it was Quamina and Jack(Father and son)who were considered to be the ring leaders. They were from Pln. Success.

Gladstone knew at that moment, even a though a kind but absentee plantation owner that his enterprise cannot be profitable by employing the African. Gladstone collected his compensation for the freed slaves and egaged lawyers to recruit the Dhangars who were massed shipped to Mauritius.
Source
Excerpt of above letter
.......
quote:

You will probably be aware that we are very particularly situated with our Negro apprentices in the West Indies, and that it is a matter of doubt and uncertainty how far they may be induced to continue their services on the plantations after their apprenticeship expires in 1840. This to us is a subject of great moment and deep interest in the colonies of Demerara and Jamaica. We are therefore most desirous to obtain and introduce labourers from other quarters, and particularly from climates something similar in their nature......

It is of great importance to us to endeavour to provide a portion of other labourers, whom we might use as a set-off, and, when the time for it comes, make us, as far as it is possible, independent of our negro population; and it has occurred to us that a moderate number of Bengalees, such as you were sending to the Isle of France, might be very suitable for our purpose

That is generally what was peddled. But new information has surfaced since then. There is no mention of Gladstone owning Pln. Success only Vreed-n-hoop and Vreidstein. And his influences on the Demerara Slavr Ebellion.

Thst is the gentleman planning a strategy. It is not the peddling of anything. It makes perfect sense. It also makes sense in light of the legislating anti homesteading laws to prevent blacks going off on their own.

12/19/117:31 PM

Former Member

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You will probably be aware that we are very particularly situated with our Negro apprentices in the West Indies, and that it is a matter of doubt and uncertainty how far they may be induced to continue their services on the plantations after their apprenticeship expires in 1840.]

Apprehnticeship finishe din 1838. In 1842 they were very much involved in the industry providing labor. They went on strike. The planters wee enrage dthat tehse "svages" would have the temerity to make any demands of them and were determined that this not happen again. Despite an ample supply of labor in over populated islands like Barbados, many of whom were working in Guyana the planters went further a field.

They wanted a labor force which was culturally differentiated from the local blacks and so would be able to used AGAINST them as they fought for better conditions.

They gave all sorts of excuses which you naively lap up...but then you will have to tell me why Jamaica....with excess labor, also imported Indians. Aside from Barbados, Antigua, and St Kitts, where every square inch of land was owned by planters and so the locals were at their beck on call, unless they left, the plan was to import culturally different workers as a check to the ex slaves.

12/19/117:33 PM

Former Member

D2/seignet dont know if you know this but there were instances of slaves LENDING planters money, either directly, or by forgoing wages until the harvest was over, simply because in certain situations they understood that the plantation wasin a financially perilous situation. They did so to protect their income. Their small viallge farms could not sustain them.

12/19/117:35 PM

Former Member

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Originally posted by seignet:
The Apprenticehip period legally was more than 4 years. .

Slavery ended 1834. Apprenticeship ended 1838. Please dont re invent history.

12/19/117:36 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by seignet:
THe Apprenticeship period was brought to sudden end due to rebellious behavior of the slaves and the uprising lead by Damien. After the announcement of the end of the apprenticeship, many ex-slaves moved on.

I wonder where you invent Guyanese history. The Damien salve revolt was BEFORE slavery ended. What many exslaves, and planters wanted, was for the slaves to get off the estates. The planters only wante dto support labor when they needed them and didnt want to be burdened with excess estate workers outside of the cane cutting season. The slaves wanted to diversify their income sources and also have the freedom to work for the estate which paid the highest wages. When the ex slaves were able to benefit from this the planters thsn demanded new labor...even in Jamaica which was a tremendously over populated island.

12/19/117:41 PM

Former Member

quote:
Originally posted by caribj:
quote:
Originally posted by seignet:
The Apprenticehip period legally was more than 4 years. .

Slavery ended 1834. Apprenticeship ended 1838. Please dont re invent history.

Slavery ended in 1992. Masaa day done.

12/20/117:48 AM

seignetSenior Member

quote:
Originally posted by caribj:
quote:
Originally posted by seignet:
The Apprenticehip period legally was more than 4 years. .

Slavery ended 1834. Apprenticeship ended 1838. Please dont re invent history.

Then Professor Dr. Eric Williams in his book Capitalism and Slavery got it all wrong.

The man seys, field slaves and factory slaves had different amount of years to serve. The most was 6 years. Apprenticeship period came to an abrupt end in British Guiana after 4 years. The majority of slaves insisted they were cheated of their freedom and refused to co-operate with the planters. Damein on the Essequibo was the slave credited to bring about the end. With Freedom, MAJORITY of slaves moved off the plantations -their housing was given to blacks and Portuguese indentured to the estates.

12/20/118:22 AM

seignetSenior Member

The question of Slaves in British Guiana, indentured Portuguese, Chinese and East Indian is not as simple as many Guyanese historians(mostly Blacks)compiled it.

John Gladstone had tremendous influences at the time. The gentleman had holdings, throughout the Caribbean, Russia, Maderia, China and India.

He had his own ships.
He influenced the British Parliament.
Fought against the Anti-Slavery Group.

He knew that the majority of blacks were not going to work on the estates. He also knew by 1834 West Indian planters were going loose their preferential duty status in Britain.

Sugar prices were going to fall considerably.

AS a businessman, he saw the writing on the wall. He soon gaveup the fight against freeing of slaves and had the British Parliament guaranteed compensation for freed slaves.

Way before 1834, Gladstone started talks with Governor of Maderia for Portuguese to be indentured to British Guiana.

It is by chance he came to know of the Madras Presidency(Tamils) that supplied their prisoners to work in Mauritius. They treated it as a penal colony in the early 1800's.

Blacks in Guyana want to believe Indians do them out of jobs. Heck, the sugar plantations dwindled into huge conglamorares and their corporations did whatever necessary to MAINTAIN PROFITABILITY.

Can Black folks understand that piece of logic -they were owed nothing by the planters.

12/20/118:46 AM

Former Member

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Originally posted by seignet:
....AS a businessman, he saw the writing on the wall. He soon gaveup the fight against freeing of slaves and had the British Parliament guaranteed compensation for freed slaves.

Way before 1834, Gladstone started talks with Governor of Maderia for Portuguese to be indentured to British Guiana.

It is by chance he came to know of the Madras Presidency(Tamils) that supplied their prisoners to work in Mauritius. They treated it as a penal colony in the early 1800's.

Blacks in Guyana want to believe Indians do them out of jobs. Heck, the sugar plantations dwindled into huge conglamorares and their corporations did whatever necessary to MAINTAIN PROFITABILITY.

Can Black folks understand that piece of logic -they were owed nothing by the planters.

Maybe that just doesn't suit today's agenda. Extracting "reparation" from Indians needs something more than that. Today you even hear LFSB's PNC did them in, much less something which happened over 150 years ago.

12/20/119:04 AM

Former Member

I suggest that you people learn black history before you open your mouth.

12/20/1111:02 AM

Former Member

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
I suggest that you people learn black history before you open your mouth.

Well, fill us in. We here in Guyana does understand the Afro situation and that is why we are becoming more understanding as to their position. Guyana Indians were used by the Brits to deprive Afros, then along came the PNC and LFBS who used us to box-in Afros, then came the PPP and they used us again to box in and put a lid. This is why Afros are left to rob, loot, rape, kill and pillage from Indians, they have few other options. I always tell my friends in Lusignan, Enterprise, Annandale, etc to leave "low hanging fruits" and free cash to hand over when the oppressed people of Buxton come calling. It is only out of desparation and frustration that they do it. I still believe that fineman would have been more compassionate had Indians behaved differently.

I admire some of my Indo brothers here for finally talking openly about this and let the rest of Indians understand the injustice against Afros. I tell my Indo brothers, don't point to 1964-1992, this was also an anti-Afro conspiracy, but as you know, it's a hard sell, only the best and brightest among us could understand this. Most Indians are either overly selfish of downright illiterate to understand these dynamics. They simple-mindedly blame Afros for their predicament.

12/20/1111:35 AM

NehruBig Mouth Member

Those who ROB, KILL and Pillage ARE ANIMALS, PLAIN AND SIMPLE. YOU CAN TRY TILL YUH EYE BALL DROP OUT TO JUSTIFY THE ACTIONS OF ANIMALS BUT WE WILL NOT BUY YOUR UTTER CRAP!!!!

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Originally posted by Sledgehammer:
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
I suggest that you people learn black history before you open your mouth.

Well, fill us in. We here in Guyana does understand the Afro situation and that is why we are becoming more understanding as to their position. Guyana Indians were used by the Brits to deprive Afros, then along came the PNC and LFBS who used us to box-in Afros, then came the PPP and they used us again to box in and put a lid. This is why Afros are left to rob, loot, rape, kill and pillage from Indians, they have few other options. I always tell my friends in Lusignan, Enterprise, Annandale, etc to leave "low hanging fruits" and free cash to hand over when the oppressed people of Buxton come calling. It is only out of desparation and frustration that they do it. I still believe that fineman would have been more compassionate had Indians behaved differently.

I admire some of my Indo brothers here for finally talking openly about this and let the rest of Indians understand the injustice against Afros. I tell my Indo brothers, don't point to 1964-1992, this was also an anti-Afro conspiracy, but as you know, it's a hard sell, only the best and brightest among us could understand this. Most Indians are either overly selfish of downright illiterate to understand these dynamics. They simple-mindedly blame Afros for their predicament.

12/20/1111:39 AM

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