It is a dangerous world out there and some are hell bent in keeping it that way.

Where is Yugi and all the other idiots who loved to show up every time the word muslim is used .

This is not the first and it will not be the last. School shooting is becoming a regular occurrence for American kids. It is very sad to know that scumbags will sacrifice children lives because they're tired of living with their sickness.

Axe man is now a confirmed Jihadist.

 

Investigators on Friday were closely examining the background of a manwho attacked several police officers in Queens with a hatchet on Thursday, focusing in part on comments he made on the Internet disparaging whites and Christians and supporting violent jihad.

The man, identified by law enforcement officials as Zale H. Thompson, attacked four rookie New York City police officers as they posed for a photograph on Jamaica Avenue just after 2 p.m. Thursday, striking one in the arm and another in the head, before he was shot and killed by other officers. A stray bullet also struck a bystander in the back.

Both officers remained hospitalized on Friday, the Police Department said. Officer Kenneth Healey, 25, was in serious but stable condition with a severe wound to the back of his head. Officer Joseph Meeker, 24, who was struck in the arm, was expected to be released.

Officials have not given a motive for the assault, which occurred in the same week as two similar attacks on military personnel in different parts of Canada.

This jihadist father was from Libya, he has a legitimate claim to be a Muslim, the Canadian Muslim community reacted appropriately and condemned this murderer. Good for them.

Mr. Zehaf-Bibeau’s parents are from starkly different backgrounds: His father, Bulgasem Zehaf, was born in Tripoli, Libya, in 1955, according to court records, and had been married and divorced. It is not clear when he arrived in Canada, but for about a decade, he ran a cafe — named after the city of his birth — on a street near McGill University in downtown Montreal.

Lybia is not exclusively MUSLIM

Our obsession with the Ottawa shooter's religion reveals more about us than about him

Updated by Amanda Taub on October 23, 2014, 11:10 a.m. ET @amandataub amanda.taub@voxmedia.com

Sure it isn't ......

Is the same shit with the mad man from Queens Village who chopped the NY police officers.

Commisioner Bratton talk a whole lot of shit about the man being a terrorist, the NYPost and all the other Jewish rags linking his action to Islam.

For a long time now I have been warning my brothers from Guyana about the influence of the ME Imams and some Radical Pakistani Imams. Guyanese Culture and Tradition are very different from that of the ME, India and Pakistan.

I agree with Nehru.  Guyana culture and history of the Guyanese East Indian people is very different from these Indians, Pakistanis, Iranians etc.  Muslim Guyanese East Indians parents in Canada and the US must educate their children about this.

EXCERPT FROM NEW YORKER ARTICLE BY JEET HEER:

"Out of the more than one million Canadian Muslims, only a handful have committed terrorist acts, and fewer than a hundred people are being actively monitored by Canadian authorities as likely to join in terrorist activities abroad.  Something more is obviously often at work.

Rather than hastily framing attacks in the context of a battle between the West and the Muslim world, it may be more productive, in terms of diagnosis and prevention, to look at more profiles of self-styled ISIS fellow-travelers who commit attacks as individuals. What we know of Zehaf-Bibeau’s biography offers some instructive clues. According to reports published in the Globe and Mail and elsewhere, he had a history of mental illness and of run-ins with the law, involving drug possession, theft, and making threats. He battled an addiction to crack cocaine and, in the weeks leading up to the attack, he was living in a homeless shelter. Dave Bathurst, a friend of Zehaf-Bibeau and himself a Muslim, told the Globe, “We were having a conversation in a kitchen, and I don’t know how he worded it: He said the devil is after him.” Bathurst said his friend often spoke of the presence of shaytan—the Arabic term for devils and demons. “I think he must have been mentally ill.”

“Islamic-extremist online recruiters are very good at pulling in people who are mentally vulnerable,” Heather Hurlburt, of the Washington-based think tank New America, said. She suggests that an effective response to the problem will draw at least as much on the insights of mental health as on the intrusions of the security state. The constant balance that needs to be struck, she said, is between monitoring dangers without alienating allies in the community, as happened with New York City Police Department’s polarizing surveillance of mosques. As Hurlburt noted, “Some of the efforts, such as surveillance of college students’ social-media accounts and police informers in mosques, have been controversial and counterproductive.

It’s natural to see terrorism and counter-terrorism as a drama of violence and retribution played out on the international stage. Both Zehaf-Bibeau and Couture-Rouleau certainly seem to have seen themselves as part of a similarly apocalyptic saga—Zehaf-Bibeau, in particular, was said by people at the shelter where he was staying in Ottawa to have spoken in his last days about the end of the world. But it’s worth remembering that Zehaf-Bibeau talked not just about an external battle but an internal struggle with demons, spiritual beings he felt had a real existence. That was a battle he was fighting in his own mind, which may have been the ultimate source of the violence that he inflicted on the world."

DRUGS AND PREFERRED TO LIVE IN A HOMELESS SHELTER INSTEAD OF LIVING WITH HIS PARENTS " I want to correct the statement of the RCMP I never said he wanted to go to Syria, I specifically said Saudi Arabia. They taped my conversation so there can little doubt about the accuracy of what I said. I did phone the agent to point the error, I don’t know it they corrected it...Most will call my son a terrorist, I don’t believe he was part of an organization or acted on behalf of some grand ideology or for a political motive. I believe he acted in despair. I am not sure of the meaning of being radicalized. I doubt he watched much islamic propaganda, I doubt he wanted to go fight in Syria...For me mental illness, is at the centre of this tragedy. At some point in his life, my son had a serious addiction to drugs, I don’t know if he overcame it, but doing so much of it could have left permanent marks and led to his current mental state. His conversations were often strange. Was he crazy? I never could have imagined that he would do something like this, but he was not well either. He refused any of my help, he preferred staying in the homeless shelter rather than coming to my house. I will always be left with the question if I could have said something else, insisted more to help…. The emptiness and pain are overwhelming."

 

Excerpt from letter by mother of Michael Zehaf-Bibeau

rEAD yUGI READ.

This killing in Canada had nothing to do with Islam.

YThis guy was a muslim with mental problems.

ISIS has 100000 Muslims with mental disease!! That number according to some sources is growing.

 

These two fellows may be wanabee Jihadists but the real ones exists, call themselves Muslims. On account of them growing up in the religion it is undeniable that we must assign to them the label of Muslims.  Therefore, it behooves us to question what motivates them to be so bestial?

 

The Americans were gone so their prey were their own, Christians, copts, Samaritans, yeidizis Zoroastrians etc. Is not this is Islam cannibalizing itself as it has for centuries? There needs to be a global council of those nations with significant Muslim populations to delineate what is acceptable in Islam or not. No one else can do it.

 

Whether the ME like it or not it is very likely the americans are coming back to clear up the muck so there is lots of killing to be done before the end of it all. I wonder if there will be some story in the regular Muslim mind to parallel why the American may return, to kill abhorrent Muslims!

School kids have mental problems. Converts are sane zealots.

 

I'm not surprised about the success of ISIS and jihad extremism.

The west had a long run in demonizing Islam, so people are saying, OK, this what they expect, we will live up to the stereotype. When normal law abiding citizens are victimized, discriminated against, told...if you don't like it, go back to your own country..well then at some point they will react.  

Some decent chap tried to build a Muslim community center in Manhattan, and the amount of anti-Muslim hate that spewed certainly woke up some Muslims as to their place in society.

Americans caused the muck, and they can't solve it. North Korea is still there, and Vietnam is still there. Not much success rate there.

DOn't blame the west for demonizing Islam....if the west really wanted to demonize Islam, there wouldn't be over 10 million Muslims in America...

he fellow building the center was doing it right after 9/11...what do you expect?

 

why wouldn't those countries still be there? 

Everyday bigoted newspaper headlines do no help.

No doubt there is a lot of bigotry to Muslims. I have experienced this bigotry in Guyana since I was less than 10 years old. While we may attribute our victimization on this bigotry, we cannot use it to explain/excuse our brutality. Muslims need to do a better job policing themselves. Stormy may be right that the time has come for a Global Muslim Council to set the guidelines by which all Muslims should follow. I thought we had an ideal situation where we can all set out own guidelines based on our understanding of Islam but once we begin having people not properly trained direct others, we risk becoming trapped into those peoples' objectives. Throwing the work Shaykh is very common in our community even though many of those "Shaykhs" never had any formal education in the religion. That needs to stop if we are going to save our communities from wicked Muslims. 

For Stormy, when Christians shoot up abortion clinics or leaders abuse their followers as in the case of Jim Jones, what motivates them? There was a case where a Mormon priest murdered an entire family including a child of very tender age after that family sold his property and gave him the entire proceed for his church. What motivated him?

They not jihadists!

they are troubled souls that need help.

 

There is a show called Escape From Evil. The priest had many wives. The story was based on on of his daughters who he was molesting even before she was a teenager. He used to tell her that God will be displeased with her if she doesn't cooperate. The entire family was not willing to help her because they were bent to the priest. Even the police department refused to press charges. To put her in shape, one of the wives would pull out her teeth while she was fully conscious. What motivated these people?

Religion is what motivates them they are called right wing christian extremists. 

 

Like you missed that?

Is Christianity responsible for their evil actions?

Which type of muslims u commenting on?

Kaz, did any of the Christian idiots u mentioned say they were doing their deeds for Christianity? I don't think so.

Actually they did Cain. All of those cases had the perpetrator claiming to be acting according to God's will.

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

 Adolph Hitler

 

 

 

 The West is a place where celebrating or demonizing anything is possible. It is the ethos to be tolerant of diversity of opinions however abhorrent. It draws the line when individuals act out their compulsion.

 

That brings me to the point where I say you are what is wrong with A Muslim's expression of Islam. You perceive slights hold grudges and think you should seek recompense or excuse those who rationalize such perceptions to be violent as being driven to it. That you can be driven to madness because one disbelieve, your creed, even ridicule it is not part of the western ethos.

 

In the west things change and ideas are transformed because one is  allowed to argue, fuss and disagree and hold a variety of views. There is heterodoxy as the norm not a rule prescribing orthodoxy.  It is by criticism of  doctrine and revaluation of firmly held beliefs that things change. It is by thesis and synthesis by which there is a solidification of belief ( and that again goes through the wash cycle). Without it there is stagnation and a reliance to official interpreters of creed rather belief through inquiry and self discovery.

 

Every person in the Americas besides natives came from some place else. After displacing the indians everyone of these groups had names for each other and claimed the banner of authenticity and told the other in no uncertain terms to "go back home'. I do not see the Italians or Catholics wanting to destroy america nor do blacks who came here in chains and for 400 years were the boot of the society. Even today many still thinks blacks do not belong. You are making spurious excuses for terrible human behavior.

 

That community center you spoke of  may have been conceived  from a place of patriotism and purity of heart  but the legacy of Muslim triumphalism... desecrating a place and then building their temples over it smacked some people in the face. It was not the right time to want to build a shrine to Islam over a placed destroyed in the name of Islam. You may not like it but that is how things function here...There were scores of Americans of all faiths wanting and supporting the building of it while others opposed. The dissenters won out. It does not mean you get to discount those Americans of different faith who stood with you and hold a grudge against all of america in general because of those who disagreed.

 

That is arrogance and presumption, and an overwhelming sense of entitlement that is  American. Black people felt dissed because everyone had a museum and monument and statue on the mall except one to their hero. They fought for decades for it. Over the years they were stymied no one wanted to blow up the place.

 

your experience and mine differ considerably, Maybe indeed we see the world differently. I do not have an apprehension of separateness of god among the faiths while growing up. I just thought that as people speak different languages people spoke to god differently.

 

Actually, by first apprehension that there was segregation was in NY. I did not know there were muslim only cricket games and it never occurred to me I could not go into a mosque until I was literally told to stay outside.

 

As a christian growing up I took hindi lessons at night at the mandir. The pandit took pains to scold me when I was not punctual or absent. I never felt alienated there. I never had the opportunity to attend a mosque in GY but now I know they would have let me in. I went to at least three Kalimai pujas at the Albion temple...no one threw me out.

 

I was born in the church of Scotland but over my life I went to Nazarene, Canadian Mission, Anglican,Baptist, Catholic  Lutheran, and even once to Pentecostal and also to an All Saints Church...no one ever threw me out. I never experience religious exclusion in Guyana...now racism...cripes yes!!!

I do not know I should answer that because motivations can be myraid from madness, to stupidity to fanaticism.

 

It is however, not analogous to organized groups taking up arms and going after  others on account of them being "unbelievers". I thought that ended with the Crusades and the inquisition!

Actually as recent as during Hitler's reign, there were people picking up arms against others on account of them being unbelievers. Abortion clinics being bombed not so long ago because of their "unholy acts" is no different from people picking up arms in the example you cited. Hopefully you do trust that I do have a problem with Muslim violence so that is not what I am trying to clarify. I am interested in if you think Christianity is responsible for the evil acts of the people in the examples that I listed.

The masjid is where Muslims go to pray. Or at least that is what it was intended for. Non-Muslims who have no interest in praying like Muslims would not find the masjid useful. Actually, outside of non-Muslims attending some Muslim functions, I don't see them doing any Muslim rituals. For this reason, one can understand why non-Muslims are not expected to be in the masjid congregation during. I don't know of a case of Non-Muslims being denied entrance to a masjid if they were interested in knowing what Muslims do.

 

Yes, I did experience bigotry when I was a kid. What do you call someone mocking Muslims that they cock their asses in the air when they pray? What about right here on GNI where we are addressed as raghead amongst other endearing names?   

Hitler was a fanatic who constituted the Reich on ideas of Aryanism....superior race with Nietzscheistic overtones not on any overt appeal to christian theology.

 

Abortion clinic bombings etc is abhorrent as any form of criminality and it must be treated as such. If terrorism in the name of islam was destroying clinics it would fit the same designation. The idea of extolling a superior faith to the detriment of others to the point of genocide is a different thing all together.

 

Christianity has its evil exponents but their hay day of murder and mayhem began to dissipate with the reformation, the acceptance of religious plurality and ideas that apostaticiam was not a death penalty

 

Again Stormy, when Christians commit evil acts including murder and mass killings as in the examples given earlier, is Christianity responsible for their acts since they claim to be doing the will of God?

Their embrace of christianity in the extreme sense is responsible for their actions.

 

I am not sure what you are trying to get at the same is the case with any extremist who has extreme views regarding religion this is not isolated to Christianity or Islam there are Hindu fundamentalists and extremists also.

 

What is your point Kszama?

You give me nothing earlier except try to make the case Hitler was motivated be christian beliefs which is either ignorant, a deliberate attempt of create a false parallel or to deny what is happening today in ISIS. If I take what you say as truths it matters not. ISIS are horrible people who grew up on the Muslim streets and who have an idea that mass murder, enslavement, and misogyny was appropriate theology.