Maybe not only that. If they want to commit jihad and murder Westerners they would obviously find a lot more in Western countries. Look at how they infiltrated France and Belgium and lay low for decades.

Mr.T posted:

Maybe not only that. If they want to commit jihad and murder Westerners they would obviously find a lot more in Western countries. Look at how they infiltrated France and Belgium and lay low for decades.

They did not 'infiltrate' France, you ignoramus ! France invaded and 'colonized" several countries in North and West Africa in the mid-1800s. They plundered the resources of these countries just as the thieving British did to India, Guyana, Jamaica, Trinidad, Barbados, East and West Africa etc. Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia eventually ejected France and became independent nations, however, over the years, some people from these countries emigrated to Europe; mainly to France and Belgium. Just as England relegated West Indians and Guyanese to insecure and low-paying jobs many years ago, the French and Belgians followed suit with North Africans and continued their victimization by treating them as second class citizens, denying them education and job opportunities for a number of years. Now that they are paying the ultimate price for their theft and barbarity; they are screaming blue murder !! Payback is a bitch, isn't it !!  Quit with your BS about jihad & murder; you do not know shit !!

Lucas posted:

Understandable. Even in the richest Muslim countries life is a deep hell.

How many of those countries have you been to and therefore know that 'life is a deep hell' ?

Keffer posted:

Mr.T posted:

Maybe not only that. If they want to commit jihad and murder Westerners they would obviously find a lot more in Western countries. Look at how they infiltrated France and Belgium and lay low for decades.

They did not 'infiltrate' France, you ignoramus !

If you want to hold a discussion then stop insulting other board members. This is not the whorehouse you work in, taking up the backside. And don't tell me that is how your parents raised you.

As for the infiltration: nobody asked these muslims to come and live in shanty towns in France and Belgium. They came invade. Muslims have been doing that since the days of the Moors and the Holy Wars. It pre-dates the colonial rule in Africa and beyond.

What wrong with Turkey it is a beautiful country with nice people.

Is this a fact or does other Muslim nations don't want to accept them?

Turkey got beautiful women also so that can be a reason why they don't want those riff raff got a problem people  in their country because those people are in search of the statue of liberty and other such bull. I would not use the other word out of respect for Amral.

Mr.T posted:

Keffer posted:

Mr.T posted:

Maybe not only that. If they want to commit jihad and murder Westerners they would obviously find a lot more in Western countries. Look at how they infiltrated France and Belgium and lay low for decades.

They did not 'infiltrate' France, you ignoramus !

If you want to hold a discussion then stop insulting other board members. This is not the whorehouse you work in, taking up the backside. And don't tell me that is how your parents raised you.

As for the infiltration: nobody asked these muslims to come and live in shanty towns in France and Belgium. They came invade. Muslims have been doing that since the days of the Moors and the Holy Wars. It pre-dates the colonial rule in Africa and beyond.

You choose conveniently to be blind. The Israeli invade the Palestinian and take their land. And you expect the. Muslims to be quite. ( I am against terrorism, and killing human) but would you be quite if you give shelter to someone and the turn around and kick you ass out. 

Mr.T posted:

Keffer posted:

Mr.T posted:

Maybe not only that. If they want to commit jihad and murder Westerners they would obviously find a lot more in Western countries. Look at how they infiltrated France and Belgium and lay low for decades.

They did not 'infiltrate' France, you ignoramus !

If you want to hold a discussion then stop insulting other board members. This is not the whorehouse you work in, taking up the backside. And don't tell me that is how your parents raised you.

As for the infiltration: nobody asked these muslims to come and live in shanty towns in France and Belgium. They came invade. Muslims have been doing that since the days of the Moors and the Holy Wars. It pre-dates the colonial rule in Africa and beyond.

Making statements that are patently false is indicative of either ignorance or attempting to deliberately mislead. You have no idea of who I am, what I do so I suggest you stay away from that. You need some serious schooling in history so you are indeed ignorant of the facts of the topic on which you chose to write.   

Keffer posted:

Mr.T posted:

Keffer posted:

Mr.T posted:

Maybe not only that. If they want to commit jihad and murder Westerners they would obviously find a lot more in Western countries. Look at how they infiltrated France and Belgium and lay low for decades.

They did not 'infiltrate' France, you ignoramus !

If you want to hold a discussion then stop insulting other board members. This is not the whorehouse you work in, taking up the backside. And don't tell me that is how your parents raised you.

As for the infiltration: nobody asked these muslims to come and live in shanty towns in France and Belgium. They came invade. Muslims have been doing that since the days of the Moors and the Holy Wars. It pre-dates the colonial rule in Africa and beyond.

Making statements that are patently false is indicative of either ignorance or attempting to deliberately mislead. You have no idea of who I am, what I do so I suggest you stay away from that. You need some serious schooling in history so you are indeed ignorant of the facts of the topic on which you chose to write.   

WATAX!!!He is always ignorant of every topic.  

Time and time again you guys stray off topic. These refugees are smartly guided to which country they can build a future. In Europe, they want to go to Germany, in North America they would like to come to USA. Why is it that Saudi Arabia refuses to accept any refugees??? Beggers are not choosers.

kp posted:

Time and time again you guys stray off topic. These refugees are smartly guided to which country they can build a future. In Europe, they want to go to Germany, in North America they would like to come to USA. Why is it that Saudi Arabia refuses to accept any refugees??? Beggers are not choosers.

In my view, the Saudi position on this is based almost entirely on their incredible selfishness and greed and of course the dictates of the USA ! This notion of 'beggars are not choosers' is inappropriate because it suggests that needy, conflict-stricken people should be made to accept whatever scraps and crumbs are thrown at their feet; it is degrading to human dignity. Based on economic scales, Canada is taking in far more refugees that the USA is. Also, given the political, economic, demographic and human turmoil that the USA creates worldwide everyday, they should be taking in substantially more refugees. Every single human being is seeking a better and more comfortable way of life so, if you were a refugee and have endured what the Syrians have been faced with for so many years, where would you like to go ?

Them Turks don't want to hear these riff raff showing up and asking them for lady liberty.

They should send some refugees to Guyana to teach  Granger a lesson of his own medicine. The unfaithful ones, that is.

Keffer posted:

Mr.T posted:

Maybe not only that. If they want to commit jihad and murder Westerners they would obviously find a lot more in Western countries. Look at how they infiltrated France and Belgium and lay low for decades.

They did not 'infiltrate' France, you ignoramus ! France invaded and 'colonized" several countries in North and West Africa in the mid-1800s. They plundered the resources of these countries just as the thieving British did to India, Guyana, Jamaica, Trinidad, Barbados, East and West Africa etc. Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia eventually ejected France and became independent nations, however, over the years, some people from these countries emigrated to Europe; mainly to France and Belgium. Just as England relegated West Indians and Guyanese to insecure and low-paying jobs many years ago, the French and Belgians followed suit with North Africans and continued their victimization by treating them as second class citizens, denying them education and job opportunities for a number of years. Now that they are paying the ultimate price for their theft and barbarity; they are screaming blue murder !! Payback is a bitch, isn't it !!  Quit with your BS about jihad & murder; you do not know shit !!

 I would not use the term infiltrate but they left their world because they wanted better. What keeps them down is problematic but the result is they do not integrate into french or Belgian society.

Muslims are also colonizers of much of Africa. They were in complete collusion with the European in the slave trade.  Much of the lands today that is claimed by Muslims were homes of others whom they dominated or converted and yes took over their lands.

I will agree t hat there is racism but the violence one sees in the region is more than a consequence of trauma from oppression. It is in the culture itself. You may not want to agree and like to place the blame elsewhere but t hat is exactly why the culture will not heal itself.

The only bitch on the payback end of all of this is the absolute return to a medieval landscape of all of these cultures. The US and Europe has the capacity to wipe every man woman and child of the region out but they do not do it because it is not in their natures. Had those Muslim scumbags similar opportunity they would have had all our cities in rubble. The reality is the only option in all of this is that they will lose.

Prashad posted:

Turkey got beautiful women also so that can be a reason why they don't want those riff raff got a problem people  in their country because those people are in search of the statue of liberty and other such bull. I would not use the other word out of respect for Amral.

Every country has its share of beautiful woman. Turkey is better situated by language and culture to accept these people. They are searching for a place that is absent bombs and jihadist not some proverbial statue of liberty. That liberty is expressed in their need to be away from brutish people invading their homes...these are not white people!

kp posted:

Time and time again you guys stray off topic. These refugees are smartly guided to which country they can build a future. In Europe, they want to go to Germany, in North America they would like to come to USA. Why is it that Saudi Arabia refuses to accept any refugees??? Beggers are not choosers.

Prashad posted:

Them Turks don't want to hear these riff raff showing up and asking them for lady liberty.

That is totally untrue; have you been to Turkey ? The Turks have been bearing more than their fair share of the burden and Erdogan ought to be commended. I suggest you read and view news from outside of the USA for a while .... if you would like to have a decent idea of what is actually taking place.  

Keffer posted:

kp posted:

Time and time again you guys stray off topic. These refugees are smartly guided to which country they can build a future. In Europe, they want to go to Germany, in North America they would like to come to USA. Why is it that Saudi Arabia refuses to accept any refugees??? Beggers are not choosers.

Prashad posted:

Them Turks don't want to hear these riff raff showing up and asking them for lady liberty.

That is totally untrue; have you been to Turkey ? The Turks have been bearing more than their fair share of the burden and Erdogan ought to be commended. I suggest you read and view news from outside of the USA for a while .... if you would like to have a decent idea of what is actually taking place.  

I read US news with respect to turkey and it is the same one you get on overseas papers. I doubt you can fine objectivity on Mullah TV ( PressTV). Erdogan contributes to the traffic while it lasted. It is ending because western powers are in fact paying him bribes plus e sees this as a bargaining chip into the EU.

Stormborn posted:

Keffer posted:

Mr.T posted:

Maybe not only that. If they want to commit jihad and murder Westerners they would obviously find a lot more in Western countries. Look at how they infiltrated France and Belgium and lay low for decades.

They did not 'infiltrate' France, you ignoramus ! France invaded and 'colonized" several countries in North and West Africa in the mid-1800s. They plundered the resources of these countries just as the thieving British did to India, Guyana, Jamaica, Trinidad, Barbados, East and West Africa etc. Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia eventually ejected France and became independent nations, however, over the years, some people from these countries emigrated to Europe; mainly to France and Belgium. Just as England relegated West Indians and Guyanese to insecure and low-paying jobs many years ago, the French and Belgians followed suit with North Africans and continued their victimization by treating them as second class citizens, denying them education and job opportunities for a number of years. Now that they are paying the ultimate price for their theft and barbarity; they are screaming blue murder !! Payback is a bitch, isn't it !!  Quit with your BS about jihad & murder; you do not know shit !!

 I would not use the term infiltrate but they left their world because they wanted better. What keeps them down is problematic but the result is they do not integrate into french or Belgian society.

Muslims are also colonizers of much of Africa. They were in complete collusion with the European in the slave trade.  Much of the lands today that is claimed by Muslims were homes of others whom they dominated or converted and yes took over their lands.

I will agree t hat there is racism but the violence one sees in the region is more than a consequence of trauma from oppression. It is in the culture itself. You may not want to agree and like to place the blame elsewhere but t hat is exactly why the culture will not heal itself.

The only bitch on the payback end of all of this is the absolute return to a medieval landscape of all of these cultures. The US and Europe has the capacity to wipe every man woman and child of the region out but they do not do it because it is not in their natures. Had those Muslim scumbags similar opportunity they would have had all our cities in rubble. The reality is the only option in all of this is that they will lose.

Stormborn posted:

Keffer posted:

Mr.T posted:

Maybe not only that. If they want to commit jihad and murder Westerners they would obviously find a lot more in Western countries. Look at how they infiltrated France and Belgium and lay low for decades.

They did not 'infiltrate' France, you ignoramus ! France invaded and 'colonized" several countries in North and West Africa in the mid-1800s. They plundered the resources of these countries just as the thieving British did to India, Guyana, Jamaica, Trinidad, Barbados, East and West Africa etc. Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia eventually ejected France and became independent nations, however, over the years, some people from these countries emigrated to Europe; mainly to France and Belgium. Just as England relegated West Indians and Guyanese to insecure and low-paying jobs many years ago, the French and Belgians followed suit with North Africans and continued their victimization by treating them as second class citizens, denying them education and job opportunities for a number of years. Now that they are paying the ultimate price for their theft and barbarity; they are screaming blue murder !! Payback is a bitch, isn't it !!  Quit with your BS about jihad & murder; you do not know shit !!

 I would not use the term infiltrate but they left their world because they wanted better. What keeps them down is problematic but the result is they do not integrate into french or Belgian society.

Muslims are also colonizers of much of Africa. They were in complete collusion with the European in the slave trade.  Much of the lands today that is claimed by Muslims were homes of others whom they dominated or converted and yes took over their lands.

I will agree t hat there is racism but the violence one sees in the region is more than a consequence of trauma from oppression. It is in the culture itself. You may not want to agree and like to place the blame elsewhere but t hat is exactly why the culture will not heal itself.

The only bitch on the payback end of all of this is the absolute return to a medieval landscape of all of these cultures. The US and Europe has the capacity to wipe every man woman and child of the region out but they do not do it because it is not in their natures. Had those Muslim scumbags similar opportunity they would have had all our cities in rubble. The reality is the only option in all of this is that they will lose.

Oh yes, here comes another genius ! Please tell us specifically:     1) which 'much' of Africa the Muslims colonized; name the specific          places/countries, provide the time periods of the colonialization & source(s) of your information, 2) similarly, with respect to slavery, please give references to substantiate "They were in complete collusion with the European in the slave trade", 3) name the 'lands today that is claimed by Muslims were homes of others whom they dominated or converted and yes took over their lands", 4) It (violence) is in the culture itself; please elaborate and provide evidence of this.

With reference to "US and Europe has the capacity to wipe every man woman and child of the region out but they do not do it because it is not in their natures", I have to note that you are completely ignorant of historical reality. Please name one country that has killed and destroyed more than the USA and UK (you may wish to research Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan).

Stormborn posted:

Keffer posted:

kp posted:

Time and time again you guys stray off topic. These refugees are smartly guided to which country they can build a future. In Europe, they want to go to Germany, in North America they would like to come to USA. Why is it that Saudi Arabia refuses to accept any refugees??? Beggers are not choosers.

Prashad posted:

Them Turks don't want to hear these riff raff showing up and asking them for lady liberty.

That is totally untrue; have you been to Turkey ? The Turks have been bearing more than their fair share of the burden and Erdogan ought to be commended. I suggest you read and view news from outside of the USA for a while .... if you would like to have a decent idea of what is actually taking place.  

I read US news with respect to turkey and it is the same one you get on overseas papers. I doubt you can fine objectivity on Mullah TV ( PressTV). Erdogan contributes to the traffic while it lasted. It is ending because western powers are in fact paying him bribes plus e sees this as a bargaining chip into the EU.

A frequent saying of one of my old teachers is something you should heed: "It is better to shut your mouth and let everyone think you are an ass than to open it and remove all doubts". Keep reading US news .... 

Keffer posted:

Stormborn posted:

Keffer posted:

kp posted:

Time and time again you guys stray off topic. These refugees are smartly guided to which country they can build a future. In Europe, they want to go to Germany, in North America they would like to come to USA. Why is it that Saudi Arabia refuses to accept any refugees??? Beggers are not choosers.

Prashad posted:

Them Turks don't want to hear these riff raff showing up and asking them for lady liberty.

That is totally untrue; have you been to Turkey ? The Turks have been bearing more than their fair share of the burden and Erdogan ought to be commended. I suggest you read and view news from outside of the USA for a while .... if you would like to have a decent idea of what is actually taking place.  

I read US news with respect to turkey and it is the same one you get on overseas papers. I doubt you can fine objectivity on Mullah TV ( PressTV). Erdogan contributes to the traffic while it lasted. It is ending because western powers are in fact paying him bribes plus e sees this as a bargaining chip into the EU.

A frequent saying of one of my old teachers is something you should heed: "It is better to shut your mouth and let everyone think you are an ass than to open it and remove all doubts". Keep reading US news .... 

Who was that teacher...mullah omar? In any event, you should have taken his advice in this respect. Besides that you are as smart only in your own mind.

There are about 12 million Syrian refugees and only about 6 percent is in Europe, guess where the rest of them are?

Large numbers are in Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq and even Egypt.

Keffer posted:

.Quit with your BS about jihad & murder; you do not know shit !!

You do know that these extremists kill far more Muslims than they do others.

In addition, almost every time they attack in the West Muslims are among the casualties.

Abu Jihad posted:

There are about 12 million Syrian refugees and only about 6 percent is in Europe, guess where the rest of them are?

Large numbers are in Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq and even Egypt.

 

 

Western powers support them wherever they are. That is a fact Jack.  The Obama just promised Jordan an additional 200 million this year. That is in addition to some 360 million already sent. Turkey's deal is subsidized by the EU. These people are far better among their own.

Keffer posted:

Lucas posted:

Understandable. Even in the richest Muslim countries life is a deep hell.

How many of those countries have you been to and therefore know that 'life is a deep hell' ?

They turned those countries into deserts....

Stormborn posted:

Keffer posted:

Stormborn posted:

Keffer posted:

kp posted:

Time and time again you guys stray off topic. These refugees are smartly guided to which country they can build a future. In Europe, they want to go to Germany, in North America they would like to come to USA. Why is it that Saudi Arabia refuses to accept any refugees??? Beggers are not choosers.

Prashad posted:

Them Turks don't want to hear these riff raff showing up and asking them for lady liberty.

That is totally untrue; have you been to Turkey ? The Turks have been bearing more than their fair share of the burden and Erdogan ought to be commended. I suggest you read and view news from outside of the USA for a while .... if you would like to have a decent idea of what is actually taking place.  

I read US news with respect to turkey and it is the same one you get on overseas papers. I doubt you can fine objectivity on Mullah TV ( PressTV). Erdogan contributes to the traffic while it lasted. It is ending because western powers are in fact paying him bribes plus e sees this as a bargaining chip into the EU.

A frequent saying of one of my old teachers is something you should heed: "It is better to shut your mouth and let everyone think you are an ass than to open it and remove all doubts". Keep reading US news .... 

Who was that teacher...mullah omar? In any event, you should have taken his advice in this respect. Besides that you are as smart only in your own mind.

You need to find out who Mullah Omar is/was; it will shock you !

Lucas posted:

Keffer posted:

Lucas posted:

Understandable. Even in the richest Muslim countries life is a deep hell.

How many of those countries have you been to and therefore know that 'life is a deep hell' ?

They turned those countries into deserts....

If that is the best you can do, it will be in your interest to be quiet.

Keffer posted:

Stormborn posted:

Keffer posted:

Stormborn posted:

Keffer posted:

kp posted:

Time and time again you guys stray off topic. These refugees are smartly guided to which country they can build a future. In Europe, they want to go to Germany, in North America they would like to come to USA. Why is it that Saudi Arabia refuses to accept any refugees??? Beggers are not choosers.

Prashad posted:

Them Turks don't want to hear these riff raff showing up and asking them for lady liberty.

That is totally untrue; have you been to Turkey ? The Turks have been bearing more than their fair share of the burden and Erdogan ought to be commended. I suggest you read and view news from outside of the USA for a while .... if you would like to have a decent idea of what is actually taking place.  

I read US news with respect to turkey and it is the same one you get on overseas papers. I doubt you can fine objectivity on Mullah TV ( PressTV). Erdogan contributes to the traffic while it lasted. It is ending because western powers are in fact paying him bribes plus e sees this as a bargaining chip into the EU.

A frequent saying of one of my old teachers is something you should heed: "It is better to shut your mouth and let everyone think you are an ass than to open it and remove all doubts". Keep reading US news .... 

Who was that teacher...mullah omar? In any event, you should have taken his advice in this respect. Besides that you are as smart only in your own mind.

You need to find out who Mullah Omar is/was; it will shock you !

Let me see...he was inculcated into his mass murderer ideology by the evil uncle sam!!!!

Stormborn posted:

Abu Jihad posted:

There are about 12 million Syrian refugees and only about 6 percent is in Europe, guess where the rest of them are?

Large numbers are in Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq and even Egypt.

 

 

Western powers support them wherever they are. That is a fact Jack.  The Obama just promised Jordan an additional 200 million this year. That is in addition to some 360 million already sent. Turkey's deal is subsidized by the EU. These people are far better among their own.

Did you do the math to see that this is a ridiculous comment. That money cannot even buy blankets for the 12 million refuges.

Abu Jihad posted:

 

Did you do the math to see that this is a ridiculous comment. That money cannot even buy blankets for the 12 million refuges.

 

Let us unpack this.

1.  The chosen destination of most of these Muslim refugees is Europe.  They seek to build new lives there. For most life in another Muslim land is merely waiting until they can either migrate to the West, or hope that peace returns in their homelands.

2.  While the West might not be offering enough aid to your satisfaction, one can bet that its more than that offered by their own fellow Muslims!

3.  Noteworthy the semi secular Turkey is offering way more help than that pillar of Muslim Orthodoxy, Saudi Arabia.

While it is clear that there is anti Islamic bigotry sweeping across Europe, and, to a lesser degree, USA and Australia, this pales when we see the tremendous animosities which exist between the various branches of Islam. 

It is way better to be a Muslim in the USA than it is to be a Christian in Pakistan, where even infants can have their lives ended for being the offspring of Christian parents.  Note that the Christianity that can be found throughout South Asia and the Middle East PREDATES the arrival of the Europeans.  After all Christianity is as Middle Eastern a religion as is Islam.

We don't even have to compare the fate f religious minorities in the West, compared to their fate in majority Muslim lands.   Is there any western society where, in 2016, there are wholesale exterminations of communities, merely for religious reasons? 

In addition those who claim that the Muslims didn't conquer ought to pick up a history book. 

When hordes of Islamic armies poured into North Africa, or the Byzantine Empire, or even parts of sub Saharan Africa, they didn't arrive as guests.  They arrived with sharpened swords and slaughtered those who didn't convert.

In addition Arabs began their engagement with African elites in slavery BEFORE the Europeans and did NOT stop their involvement until the West forced them to do so!

And even now chattel slavery exists in the Muslim lands, of Mauritania, Mali, and Niger!  We aren't talking about human trafficking.  We are talking about people who have had a status as a slave for many generations, working for the same masters for this period.

So those who scream that Islam in morally superior to the Europeans (who peddle a Middle Eastern religion) ought to stop it!

Abu Jihad posted:

Stormborn posted:

Abu Jihad posted:

There are about 12 million Syrian refugees and only about 6 percent is in Europe, guess where the rest of them are?

Large numbers are in Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq and even Egypt.

 

 

Western powers support them wherever they are. That is a fact Jack.  The Obama just promised Jordan an additional 200 million this year. That is in addition to some 360 million already sent. Turkey's deal is subsidized by the EU. These people are far better among their own.

Did you do the math to see that this is a ridiculous comment. That money cannot even buy blankets for the 12 million refuges.

 

WHy should I do the math to solve the need completely? The reality is that only western peoples are organized in any way to providing aid. You do not see the Chinese or the Russians or the Indians or the Brazilians there. You see Europeans and Americans carrying the heavy load. That is what you need to acknowledge and concern yourself about and wonder why the others including rich Arab states do not meed t he short fall.

Stormborn posted:

Abu Jihad posted:

Stormborn posted:

Abu Jihad posted:

There are about 12 million Syrian refugees and only about 6 percent is in Europe, guess where the rest of them are?

Large numbers are in Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq and even Egypt.

 

 

Western powers support them wherever they are. That is a fact Jack.  The Obama just promised Jordan an additional 200 million this year. That is in addition to some 360 million already sent. Turkey's deal is subsidized by the EU. These people are far better among their own.

Did you do the math to see that this is a ridiculous comment. That money cannot even buy blankets for the 12 million refuges.

 

WHy should I do the math to solve the need completely? The reality is that only western peoples are organized in any way to providing aid. You do not see the Chinese or the Russians or the Indians or the Brazilians there. You see Europeans and Americans carrying the heavy load. That is what you need to acknowledge and concern yourself about and wonder why the others including rich Arab states do not meed t he short fall.

It seems like you are missing your prescription from Dr. Bose at the Ft. Canje hospital.

If you don't know what are the costs, how the hell you know who is doing the most to help these refugees.

The Americans have done very little to help, even Canada has done better by bringing 25000 in record time.  

Abu Jihad posted:

Stormborn posted:

Abu Jihad posted:

Stormborn posted:

Abu Jihad posted:

There are about 12 million Syrian refugees and only about 6 percent is in Europe, guess where the rest of them are?

Large numbers are in Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq and even Egypt.

 

 

Western powers support them wherever they are. That is a fact Jack.  The Obama just promised Jordan an additional 200 million this year. That is in addition to some 360 million already sent. Turkey's deal is subsidized by the EU. These people are far better among their own.

Did you do the math to see that this is a ridiculous comment. That money cannot even buy blankets for the 12 million refuges.

 

WHy should I do the math to solve the need completely? The reality is that only western peoples are organized in any way to providing aid. You do not see the Chinese or the Russians or the Indians or the Brazilians there. You see Europeans and Americans carrying the heavy load. That is what you need to acknowledge and concern yourself about and wonder why the others including rich Arab states do not meed t he short fall.

It seems like you are missing your prescription from Dr. Bose at the Ft. Canje hospital.

If you don't know what are the costs, how the hell you know who is doing the most to help these refugees.

The Americans have done very little to help, even Canada has done better by bringing 25000 in record time.  

 

SOrry....you are fixated on the idea of the evil west...the one you claim blew up the towers and kill 3 thousand of their own because they wanted to go into Iraq and steal oil.

I do not care to know the costs or the logistics. I am speaking of the abject neglect of these people by their own. That is self evident. Saudi, Qatar, Dubai, Bahrain should be taking the lead and instead of building monstrosities into the sky build houses for these people so they can get out of the tents and experience communities.

Stormborn posted:

Abu Jihad posted:

Stormborn posted:

Abu Jihad posted:

Stormborn posted:

Abu Jihad posted:

There are about 12 million Syrian refugees and only about 6 percent is in Europe, guess where the rest of them are?

Large numbers are in Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq and even Egypt.

 

 

Western powers support them wherever they are. That is a fact Jack.  The Obama just promised Jordan an additional 200 million this year. That is in addition to some 360 million already sent. Turkey's deal is subsidized by the EU. These people are far better among their own.

Did you do the math to see that this is a ridiculous comment. That money cannot even buy blankets for the 12 million refuges.

 

WHy should I do the math to solve the need completely? The reality is that only western peoples are organized in any way to providing aid. You do not see the Chinese or the Russians or the Indians or the Brazilians there. You see Europeans and Americans carrying the heavy load. That is what you need to acknowledge and concern yourself about and wonder why the others including rich Arab states do not meed t he short fall.

It seems like you are missing your prescription from Dr. Bose at the Ft. Canje hospital.

If you don't know what are the costs, how the hell you know who is doing the most to help these refugees.

The Americans have done very little to help, even Canada has done better by bringing 25000 in record time.  

 

SOrry....you are fixated on the idea of the evil west...the one you claim blew up the towers and kill 3 thousand of their own because they wanted to go into Iraq and steal oil.

I do not care to know the costs or the logistics. I am speaking of the abject neglect of these people by their own. That is self evident. Saudi, Qatar, Dubai, Bahrain should be taking the lead and instead of building monstrosities into the sky build houses for these people so they can get out of the tents and experience communities.

Did you not read my original post you fool.  The majority if the refugees were taken in by other Muslim countries, not Europe or America.  

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Did you not read my original post you fool.  The majority if the refugees were taken in by other Muslim countries, not Europe or America.  

The majority of the refugees living in Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt and Turkey, would live to leave, and it isn't to go to Saudi, except as temporary migrant workers.

Clearly these refugees prefer Europe, as we see so many risk life and limb to get there.   Didn't notice them risking death to flock to Saudi.

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Did you not read my original post you fool.  The majority if the refugees were taken in by other Muslim countries, not Europe or America.  

The majority of the refugees living in Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt and Turkey, would live to leave, and it isn't to go to Saudi, except as temporary migrant workers.

Clearly these refugees prefer Europe, as we see so many risk life and limb to get there.   Didn't notice them risking death to flock to Saudi.

People risk death to get to a safe place.  Whats your obsession with Saudi, how are they different from what the people are running from.  

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Time and time again you guys stray off topic. These refugees are smartly guided to which country they can build a future. In Europe, they want to go to Germany, in North America they would like to come to USA. Why is it that Saudi Arabia refuses to accept any refugees??? Beggers are not choosers.

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Them Turks don't want to hear these riff raff showing up and asking them for lady liberty.

That is totally untrue; have you been to Turkey ? The Turks have been bearing more than their fair share of the burden and Erdogan ought to be commended. I suggest you read and view news from outside of the USA for a while .... if you would like to have a decent idea of what is actually taking place.  

I read US news with respect to turkey and it is the same one you get on overseas papers. I doubt you can fine objectivity on Mullah TV ( PressTV). Erdogan contributes to the traffic while it lasted. It is ending because western powers are in fact paying him bribes plus e sees this as a bargaining chip into the EU.

A frequent saying of one of my old teachers is something you should heed: "It is better to shut your mouth and let everyone think you are an ass than to open it and remove all doubts". Keep reading US news .... 

Who was that teacher...mullah omar? In any event, you should have taken his advice in this respect. Besides that you are as smart only in your own mind.

You need to find out who Mullah Omar is/was; it will shock you !

Let me see...he was inculcated into his mass murderer ideology by the evil uncle sam!!!!

Pretty much that !  It has been said time and again that travel is one of the greatest teachers one can have so some of us who sit in the USA and think of it as a paragon of virtue should visit other countries and take the time to speak to the local people...what you hear from the average man will probably shock you ! 

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Pretty much that !  It has been said time and again that travel is one of the greatest teachers one can have so some of us who sit in the USA and think of it as a paragon of virtue should visit other countries and take the time to speak to the local people...what you hear from the average man will probably shock you ! 

It is said that some can look everywhere and not see what is in their own house. The average man is average. Mediocrity never shocks; it is pervasive.