i hope they find them and make an example of them.

The good news is the NYPD does not play and they have great working relationship with people of color and all religious organizations.

The sad news is, expect more attacks like this one.

I would have been very upset if it was a Guyanese secular muslim woman

The perps need to be punished.  Trump did not cause this, ISIS did!  However, Muslims need dress less radical!

ba$eman posted:

The perps need to be punished.  Trump did not cause this, ISIS did!  However, Muslims need dress less radical!

Base, what is radical about her outfit?

I would agree if you had wrote 'less conspicuous' but I don't see the radical aspect of her dress.

These things happened very often with people that are intolerance to others. Every city has it share of excitements and setbacks. You just have to ignore and move on. 

Prince posted:

ba$eman posted:

Prince posted:

She is a pretty woman. She can be my personal terrorist anytime.  

She's a baby!

Cuchie-cuchie baby.  

We should not allow racists to define what Trump stands for!  We need to reject racism and the misrepresentation of Trumpism!  Our Muslim brothers and sisters, sons and daughters must feel and live free within the laws and values of the great USA!

ba$eman posted:

The perps need to be punished.  Trump did not cause this, ISIS did!  However, Muslims need dress less radical!

What is radical about the woman's dress? She is also easy on the eye and looks rather personable. Any person of sound mind would be quite  respectful to her. Also she could have been anyone with a head scarf. Those who assaulted her were plainly racist morons.

Prince and Base, I really think that you have a lot to learn and I hope that you will not learn it the hard way as we say in Guyana. What happened to this young lady is a forerunner of what is what is to come. Trump and you guys who continue to  close your brains to what he has unleashed are responsible for these kinds of attacks.  There is nothing wrong with the young lady' s mode of dress. It is easy to say that it happens, to just move on. Until it is you, your mother, sister family, etc. Then it becomes real.

What crap about American values. The so called American values that you herald was responsible for the  establishment of repressive regimes in the Third World, the rape and violence in wismar, the political violence in Guyana in the 1960s, the overthrow of many democratically elected governments throughout the works, many acts that should have them face the world court at The Hague, slavery and continuation discrimination in the US. The list is too long to list here. 

You fail to realize what you call the American values is and what you seem to enjoy over there and revel in is one side of a coin. The other side is misery, hunger, oppression, distatorship, racism, poverty in parts of the US and in other countries that the Us has supported and presently supports.

These coolie wanna be whites will have rude awakening.

Nah, it's more to do with Islamic Terrorism and Islamism which is causing a backlash against some innocent Muslims.  Trump has little to do with it, though he has taken up the issue the strongest.

If your buddies (ISIS) were not chopping off Christian and non-believer heads and doing all the wicked stuff, instructing US Muslims to take up their cause, you would not be having this.  I just listen to the hatred coming from you, Blankpoint and some others and one wonders what the hell in going on in your houses of worship!

Anyway, as I said, innocent people should not be targeted.

The actions of these idiots who attacked the young lady are unacceptable, they must be caught and jailed for their unacceptable behaviour.

This has nothing to do with Trump.

Islamists are creating a backlash across the world and innocent Muslims are becoming victims. The backlash is felt more in Europe as they see Islamists as the biggest threat to their countries. They have been victims of many acts of terror committed against them by Islamists who hate Europeans and all Westerners.

The middle east must deal with their internal problems. Where is the unity and brotherhood which Islam promotes ? All that we are seeing is war. The middle east has become a complete war zone.

Where are the Muslim spiritual leaders who were supposed to promote peace and brotherhood ? 

Base posts above sums it up and describes the issue very nicely.

I agree that innocent people should not be targeted and anyone who commits these acts of hate towards them must be jailed.

This is absolutely criminal and unacceptable.

Now let me be FRANK, why people want to dress as if they live in the Middle East, Afghanistan or Pakistan. I thought the reason people move to the West is to embrace Western Cultures.

I can understand dressing like that to go to a special occasion( wedding, Church, funeral) but cannot see nor understand the need to dress like you did in a sand and Camel environment.

These women have to dress like that because "Massa" say so.  Many of them don't like it.  They feel self conscious when they are in the train and other public places because their dress draws attention to them. 

However, when Hillary Clinton as Secy of State, most powerful woman in America, shows up in the Middle East to have meetings they won't speak to her unless she wears her hijab.  Sometimes she has to sit in an adjoining room and communicate through messages via an interpreter. 

Chief posted:

The good news is the NYPD does not play and they have great working relationship with people of color and all religious organizations.

The sad news is, expect more attacks like this one.

Chief you are absolutely correct about the role of the NYPD.  DeBlasio has vowed on National TV and other pubic places that he will protect Muslims at all cost.  Anyone who messes with a Muslim in New York City will face the wrath of deBlasio.

And they are never shy about letting the American President or other officials know that they have to obey certain tradition when visiting.

I can understand Diplomats having to bend to their way in their Country. As long as it is done with respect.

Chief posted:

The good news is the NYPD does not play and they have great working relationship with people of color and all religious organizations.

The sad news is, expect more attacks like this one.

Chief you couldn't be serious. NYPD having a good track record with people of color!  

yuji22 posted:

The actions of these idiots who attacked the young lady are unacceptable, they must be caught and jailed for their unacceptable behaviour.

This has nothing to do with Trump.

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Trump appointed a man who equated Islam with a disease. So why the shock that some Trump supporters take this as a message to eradicate the disease.

Trump encouraged bigotry and a fair % of the votes that he got were due to this. He blamed the plight of the white working class on people of color, encouraging their bigotry.

He did NOT define it, as did Bernie, on decisions made by RICH WHITE MEN!

Nehru posted:

And they are never shy about letting the American President or other officials know that they have to obey certain tradition when visiting.

I can understand Diplomats having to bend to their way in their Country. As long as it is done with respect.

Dem girls know how to beat the system.  They wear their mini skirts and skimpy outfits and then wear the hijab and long dress over it.  When they arrive at their party they take off all unnecessary garments and then put it back on when they are returning home.

Stricter the government, Wiser the population!

Bibi Haniffa posted:

These women have to dress like that because "Massa" say so.  .

The vast majority of Muslim women in NYC don't dress like that, even in neighborhoods with a large Muslim presence.

So who is forcing them to dress like that in NYC?

caribny posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

These women have to dress like that because "Massa" say so.  .

The vast majority of Muslim women in NYC don't dress like that, even in neighborhoods with a large Muslim presence.

So who is forcing them to dress like that in NYC?

Yes they do.  Tek a walk around Jackson Heights or Jamaica, Queens and check out the scene.

What difference does it make to some of you what Muslim women dress like?

Live and let live....

RiffRaff posted:

What difference does it make to some of you what Muslim women dress like?

Live and let live....

Not to most of us, but for many, it raises shades of "Islamism"!

Riff, I would like to see them permanently in Hot Pants, Bikinis and swim suits.):

caribny posted:

yuji22 posted:

The actions of these idiots who attacked the young lady are unacceptable, they must be caught and jailed for their unacceptable behaviour.

This has nothing to do with Trump.

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Trump appointed a man who equated Islam with a disease. So why the shock that some Trump supporters take this as a message to eradicate the disease.

Trump encouraged bigotry and a fair % of the votes that he got were due to this. He blamed the plight of the white working class on people of color, encouraging their bigotry.

He did NOT define it, as did Bernie, on decisions made by RICH WHITE MEN!

Oh, the newly appointed HUD lead, Ben Carson said a Muslim should not be president.  Some rich White man datt!!

Unfortunately for you, RICH WHITE MEN making decisions will be around for a long long time in the great USA!!

ba$eman posted:

RiffRaff posted:

What difference does it make to some of you what Muslim women dress like?

Live and let live....

Not to most of us, but for many, it raises shades of "Islamism"!

what is Islamism...is this something new?

caribny posted:

Chief posted:

The good news is the NYPD does not play and they have great working relationship with people of color and all religious organizations.

The sad news is, expect more attacks like this one.

Chief you couldn't be serious. NYPD having a good track record with people of color!  

I said working relationship.

It is at an all time high from  ack in the BLACK Panther days.

Nehru posted:

This is absolutely criminal and unacceptable.

Now let me be FRANK, why people want to dress as if they live in the Middle East, Afghanistan or Pakistan. I thought the reason people move to the West is to embrace Western Cultures.

 

I can understand dressing like that to go to a special occasion( wedding, Church, funeral) but cannot see nor understand the need to dress like you did in a sand and Camel environment.

From your post it is Ok for yur hindu bros to dress the way the do but not Muslims

Pointblank posted:

Nehru posted:

This is absolutely criminal and unacceptable.

Now let me be FRANK, why people want to dress as if they live in the Middle East, Afghanistan or Pakistan. I thought the reason people move to the West is to embrace Western Cultures.

 

I can understand dressing like that to go to a special occasion( wedding, Church, funeral) but cannot see nor understand the need to dress like you did in a sand and Camel environment.

From your post it is Ok for yur hindu bros to dress the way the do but not Muslims

Why did you drop out at Kindergarten???  Was it because of financial hardship or brain damage????

ba$eman posted:

The perps need to be punished.  Trump did not cause this, ISIS did!  However, Muslims need dress less radical!

so ISIS also causing trump supporters to deface Jewish places of Worship and parks and other places with swastikas and distribite KKK fliers etc.

Nehru posted:

Pointblank posted:

Nehru posted:

This is absolutely criminal and unacceptable.

Now let me be FRANK, why people want to dress as if they live in the Middle East, Afghanistan or Pakistan. I thought the reason people move to the West is to embrace Western Cultures.

 

I can understand dressing like that to go to a special occasion( wedding, Church, funeral) but cannot see nor understand the need to dress like you did in a sand and Camel environment.

From your post it is Ok for yur hindu bros to dress the way the do but not Muslims

Why did you drop out at Kindergarten???  Was it because of financial hardship or brain damage????

Brain damage. 

Bibi Haniffa posted:

caribny posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

These women have to dress like that because "Massa" say so.  .

The vast majority of Muslim women in NYC don't dress like that, even in neighborhoods with a large Muslim presence.

So who is forcing them to dress like that in NYC?

Yes they do.  Tek a walk around Jackson Heights or Jamaica, Queens and check out the scene.

Some do and some don't.  It is arrogant for you to assume that those who do are doing so against their will. You look like a white man ranting about the savages.  But then you support Trump, who does exactly that, so why the shock.

Chief posted:

 

I said working relationship.

It is at an all time high from  ack in the BLACK Panther days.

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Some thing I note with you.  OK for people to damn blacks to eternity, but if they say anything against your wonderful religion..............

So continue to condone the whole "Driving While Black" thing that upper middle class black men must contend with.  OK when cops drag a black female out of a vehicle, for no reason, and then slam her on the sidewalk. Or to shoot a black man when his kids are watching.

Any objections to this must be from the Black Panthers.

You see this is why I tell you to stop talking about blacks when clearly you are very ignorant on the topic.

If the NYPD had a working relationship then their image would be better, because most blacks want the police to do their job, which is to "protect and SERVE!".

Nehru posted:

Pointblank posted:

Nehru posted:

This is absolutely criminal and unacceptable.

Now let me be FRANK, why people want to dress as if they live in the Middle East, Afghanistan or Pakistan. I thought the reason people move to the West is to embrace Western Cultures.

 

I can understand dressing like that to go to a special occasion( wedding, Church, funeral) but cannot see nor understand the need to dress like you did in a sand and Camel environment.

From your post it is Ok for yur hindu bros to dress the way the do but not Muslims

Why did you drop out at Kindergarten???  Was it because of financial hardship or brain damage????

When you drink from the PPP posey everything has to be repeated slowly so that you MAY understand

ba$eman posted:

Nah, it's more to do with Islamic Terrorism and Islamism which is causing a backlash against some innocent Muslims.  Trump has little to do with it, though he has taken up the issue the strongest.

If your buddies (ISIS) were not chopping off Christian and non-believer heads and doing all the wicked stuff, instructing US Muslims to take up their cause, you would not be having this.  I just listen to the hatred coming from you, Blankpoint and some others and one wonders what the hell in going on in your houses of worship!

Anyway, as I said, innocent people should not be targeted.

Your references to 'Islamic Terrorism' and 'Islamism' are clear indications of either in-depth knowledge or abject ignorance and stupidity ! Given the spontaneity with which you used these words, why don't you tell us what they mean ? Further, please help us to understand why the actions of US 'heavyweights' like Bush, Cheyney, Wolfowicz, Rumsfeld, etc are 'so noble'.

Keffer posted:

ba$eman posted:

Nah, it's more to do with Islamic Terrorism and Islamism which is causing a backlash against some innocent Muslims.  Trump has little to do with it, though he has taken up the issue the strongest.

If your buddies (ISIS) were not chopping off Christian and non-believer heads and doing all the wicked stuff, instructing US Muslims to take up their cause, you would not be having this.  I just listen to the hatred coming from you, Blankpoint and some others and one wonders what the hell in going on in your houses of worship!

Anyway, as I said, innocent people should not be targeted.

Your references to 'Islamic Terrorism' and 'Islamism' are clear indications of either in-depth knowledge or abject ignorance and stupidity ! Given the spontaneity with which you used these words, why don't you tell us what they mean ? Further, please help us to understand why the actions of US 'heavyweights' like Bush, Cheyney, Wolfowicz, Rumsfeld, etc are 'so noble'.

Islamic terrorism is terrorism being conducted in the name of Islam.

Islamism is taking the laws/tenets of Islam (Sharia) as defined in the Koran and imposing it on civic society!

Both are bad news!

Nehru posted:

This is absolutely criminal and unacceptable.

Now let me be FRANK, why people want to dress as if they live in the Middle East, Afghanistan or Pakistan. I thought the reason people move to the West is to embrace Western Cultures.

 

I can understand dressing like that to go to a special occasion( wedding, Church, funeral) but cannot see nor understand the need to dress like you did in a sand and Camel environment.

Nehru bai, immigrants only tell their hosts that they come for their culture when in-fact they came for the paisa. For all the years I lived in Guyana and even now, I have yet to meet a Guyanese who didn't come to America for the US dollar. We don't change our religion, culture or customs. We only say that to the Americans because we think that is what we need to say. I can extrapolate that to almost everyone who come to the US or any other country with money. There are many other Western countries where people don't move to unless it is better than where they live. Similarly, there are many Americans who move to and live in the Middle East and it is not for their culture but their paisa.

I see a lot of people in my area in public wearing saris and kurta/pajama and I don't think they are Muslims. I have a Sikh family in our street and they sit on a rug in their garage and are outside in their Indian clothes all the time. Therefore, the sand and camel environment comment is quite unfortunate. Now I would support Muslims toning their Muslim-ness down a bit so that they don't become targets but no one should be asked to relinquish their religion or culture just because they moved to the US. Especially the US whose loudest brag is its freedoms.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

 

Dem girls know how to beat the system.  They wear their mini skirts and skimpy outfits and then wear the hijab and long dress over it.  When they arrive at their party they take off all unnecessary garments and then put it back on when they are returning home.

Stricter the government, Wiser the population!

And you have proof of this or are you just making wild assumptions?

Ksaz, you certainly misunderstanding me, I will be the last person on Earth to call for giving up one's Religion/Culture. All I am saying is I personally dont see the need to cover yourself from head to toe everyday in America. Unless during brutal Winter days, which I do.