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NICIL discussion exposes critics’ unsubstantiated claims

 

Georgetown, GINA, May 22, 2012

Source - GINA

 

NCN hosts panel discussion on the NICIL issue. From left to right: Publisher of the Kaieteur News Glenn Lall,  Chartered Accountant Christopher Ram, Head of the Presidential Secretariat Dr. Roger Luncheon, Chief Executive Officer of NICIL Winston Brassington, and Minister of Finance Dr. Ashni Singh

 

The eagerly anticipated panel discussion on the National Industrial and Commercial Investments Limited (NICIL) took place tonight live in the studios of the National Communications Network, bringing to the fore the public debates on NICIL, its function and mode of operation.

      
The panel consisted of NICIL’s Chief Executive Officer Winston Brassington, Minister of Finance Dr. Ashni Singh, Head of the Presidential Secretariat Dr. Roger Luncheon, Chartered Accountant Christopher Ram, Publisher of the Kaieteur News Glen Lall and the newspaper’s Editor in Chief Adam Harris.
Notably absent were Leader of the Alliance for Change (AFC) Khemraj Ramjattan and Executive Member Moses Nagamootoo.


A brief background presented by Dr. Singh, indicated that the company was incorporated in 1990 and served as a holding company for Government’s equity investments in other companies.   In 2002, a Management Co-operation Agreement was signed appointing the Privatisation Unit (PU) as exclusive manager of NICIL, for the collecting and accounting of privatisation proceeds, rents, dividends and other income of the combined entity will be done in the name of NICIL.

 

Clarifying his interest in NICIL, Ram stated that he had requested a copy of the Management Co-operation Agreement which he did not receive, along with NICIL accounts for 2006 to 2011. He referred to this as tardiness in supplying financial information.


Dr. Luncheon said since he had received the request between 15.00 hrs to 16.00 hrs today after the weekly Cabinet meeting, he had informed Ram that the information would be provided to him as soon as possible.


Dr. Luncheon added that there is  need to pinpoint the issues and give explanations after the misinformation and misinterpretation published by the private media. He made specific reference to the Kaieteur News which carried articles which he considered scandalous and libelous.


The publication by the newspaper that NICIL has $50B which should be paid into the Consolidated Fund was denied by the company and Lall was asked whether he had any way to substantiate what his paper published. He stated that the information came from the politicians and this was supported by Harris who said that the information was pulled out of a weekly column done for the Kaieteur News by the AFC.


Harris claimed that the AFC explained to him that the information was taken from NICIL’s annual reports up to 2003.


Brassington described this method of computing as ‘jumbie Arithmetic’ which saw the AFC taking the gross revenue for NICIL and all its subsidiaries being put together to come up with such a figure.


Minister Singh stated that definitive pronouncements had been made in the public domain, which are reckless and irresponsible in the face of lack of information. He expressed disgust at the fact that such a definite statement could be made on the back dated financial reports of the company.
In an effort to divert attention from the irresponsible action of making unsubstantiated claims, the Kaieteur News publisher then turned to Government’s investment in the Marriot Hotel.


It was again explained by Dr. Singh, that all the information about this project was already in the public domain having been presented to the National Assembly. The project is a public/private partnership like the Berbice River Bridge, in which the Government will invest US$19M of the total $58M. The remainder will be financed by private investors.


Ram then diverted to the Berbice Bridge and what he referred to as high tolls. He insisted on comparing what obtains there to the toll for the Demerara Harbour Bridge, a Government subsidized entity. Again he was set straight when it was explained that the rate was fixed based on, for instance, what a car (inclusive of having passengers) paid to use the ferry.


Ram then again went back to the NICIL issue and wanted to know whether there was any comingling of funds of the PU and NICIL. Brassington patiently explained that the PU did not own property and that NICIL acts as an agent for Government. He also informed Ram that an updated report on the PU will be issued before the end of June.


Overall, both Ram and Lall admitted by their responses and statements during the discussion, that they did not have enough information on which to base the definitive statements which were made over the past weeks on NICIL.
As the discussion came to an end, Ram chose to then ask about an independent audit of NICIL.


Minister Singh expressed disappointment that Ram would raise such an issue at the end of the programme, but stated that the Auditor General remains the auditor of NICIL in accordance with the laws of Guyana.


He added that there are a number of Parliamentary mechanisms to allow for additional scrutiny one of which is the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) which is chaired by a front bench opposition member. This provides extremely good oversight of the work of the Auditor General’s office. Minister Singh noted also that the PAC is the ultimate accountability mechanism, it can summon accounting officers, public officials, ask questions and receive answers.

 

He also pointed to the Economic Services Committee which serves the same purpose.


Brassington stated that NICIL has done everything in its power to ensure its accounts are audited.  “We have submitted in a timely manner our accounts to the Auditor General (AG). We have completed up to 2005 consolidated accounts.  The Minister of Finance had tabled over 80 sets of audited accounts for NICIL and its subsidiaries. The AG has said by end of June he is looking to have the consolidated accounts for NICIL completed all the way up to 2010.”


The NICIL, CEO added that there were “lots of personal attacks on my integrity… I have done my job with integrity and honesty …I’m willing to go before to the Economic Services Committee. I have done nothing wrong.”


In wrapping up, Dr. Luncheon stated that while using NICIL as an example, “the way the issue is treated in the media really epitomizes some of the weaknesses and some of the more objectionable practices. Our two colleagues here have made the point incessantly tonight that I suspect that they will continue making...’we don’t have information, the government is not forthcoming’…and I would want to make the same point that in the context of this lack of  information and lack of forthrightness by this Administration  on what basis is this profusion of info about; … it is just poured out and anybody who reads cannot help but believe that these journalists, critics  are privy to information,  sound information that they are offering to the public and yet  they come tonight  and sit in front  of  the public and confront us with the situation  ‘we are speculating,  we are forced to speculate”.


In the context of the lack of information and forthrightness by the Administration, as claimed by the panelists, Dr. Luncheon pointed out that, “It seems to me and this is something that must be repudiated, that the press is actually saying that we don’t have information so we are going to write anything we feel like writing  to force the administration to come clean … I want to know whether if this is indeed an approach whether if this indeed motivates Glen Lall in his criticism of government policy and government operations and I feel if this is so, it is utterly reprehensible and needs to be confronted,” Dr. Luncheon stated.

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AFC ‘no show’ for NICIL panel discussion

 

Georgetown, GINA, May 22, 2012

Source - GINA

 

After several intense weeks of attacks on the administration and the National Industrial and Commercial Investments Limited (NICIL), the Alliance for Change (AFC) tonight publicly backed down from a face to face confrontation with the Head of the company on live television.


The eagerly anticipated panel discussion took place tonight live in the studios of the National Communications Network.


The panel consisted of Chief Executive Officer of NICIL Winston Brassington, Minister of Finance Dr. Ashni Singh and Cabinet Secretary Dr. Roger Luncheon, Chartered Accountant Christopher Ram and Publisher of the Kaieteur News Glen Lall along with Editor in Chief Adam Harris.


The panel discussion took place without them and focused on the recent public debates on NICIL, its functions and mode of operation.

FM

"Clarifying his interest in NICIL, Ram stated that he had requested a copy of the Management Co-operation Agreement which he did not receive, along with NICIL accounts for 2006 to 2011. He referred to this as tardiness in supplying financial information."



Without these statements, a discussion is useless.




"As the discussion came to an end, Ram chose to then ask about an independent audit of NICIL.


Minister Singh expressed disappointment that Ram would raise such an issue at the end of the programme, but stated that the Auditor General remains the auditor of NICIL in accordance with the laws of Guyana."



If they are so confident that there are no financial irregularities at NICIL, why don't they open the books to an independent audit conducted by Ram. Such an audit would shut up any critics once and for all. It's quite obvious why they would back down from such a proposal.


Besides NICIL's financial statements, there are also many instances of obvious conflict of interest breaches.    

Mars

It's not for them to feel confident, they need to gain the confidence of the public and those asking ligit questions.  Mr Brassington, a CPA, clearly understands the philosophy of independence and stakeholders' confidence on the matter.  It's not matter of debate.

FM

The PPP government and its AG exude unbridled ignorance and arrogance

 

May 22, 2012 | By | Filed Under Letters 

 

 

DEAR EDITOR,
After reading KN’s news articles, “AG challenges Opposition to move to courts on NICIL,” and “Anil Nandlall defends Brassington brothers,” (May 21), I am convinced that the PPP government and its Attorney-General make for a perfect fit, as they exude unbridled ignorance and arrogance, thinking it will somehow pass for governance substance.


Take the Brassington brothers’ issue for starters. Without rehashing all the details surrounding the transaction that allowed for NICIL’s Executive Director, Mr. Winston Brasington, to act on his brother’s behalf to buy 2.25 million shares valued at GY$225M from a company that NICIL had acquired, this has conflict of interest written all over it.

What’s rather telling, though, is that at no time at all did the brother ever leave the United States to sign off on the purchase. How on earth can Mr. Jonathan Brassington decide to invest over US$1M in Guyana and not be present at the time of signing off on the investment? In fact, where did he find over US$1M from to invest in Guyana? Did he have that kind of money to invest or did he borrow it from a bank in America or a bank in Guyana? I hope the Feds don’t go ringing his doorbell wherever he lives in America, because NICIL is going to blow like a volcano and spill ashes on some people.


Mr. Winston Brassington, meanwhile, emerged as both the seller of the shares and the power of attorney for his brother who bought the shares, yet Attorney-General Mr. Nandlall sees no conflict of interest here! This combination of ignorance and arrogance has long come to pass for acceptable governance substance in the PPP government, but neither Messrs. Nandlall nor Brassington is the final arbiter of what constitutes a conflict of interest.

I challenge anyone to present this matter as a case study at the University of the West Indies or the Hugh Wooding Law School to determine if it is a conflict of interest and I will wager US$1000 it will deemed as such. As a layman, I did a quick research on what constitutes a conflict of interest and this is one definition from Tufts University’s Finance Division.


It says, “A conflict of interest exists when an employee or a family member is in a position to benefit personally, directly or indirectly, from his or her relationship with a person or entity conducting business with the University.  All employees have an obligation to avoid conflict, or the appearance of conflict, between their personal interests and the interests of the University and to avoid any situation that affects, or potentially could affect, his or her independent, unbiased judgment in the discharge of his or her duties to the University. An employee should recuse himself or herself from making any decision relating to University business, when the employee is aware of circumstances that might reasonably cause his or her impartiality to be questioned.”


Another definition from WiseGeek.com says a conflict of interest exists if, for example, “a city councilman awards a lucrative contract to a company owned by his brother. It would not be illegal to award such a contract…even if that company was owned by a relative, but the councilman himself could not be part of the decision-making process. There would be an obvious conflict of interest, because the councilman’s own family would benefit financially from his position of power.”
So, in both the Tuft University and WiseGeek references, the key to avoiding a conflict of interest is to recuse or remove one’s self from any proceeding where self or relative or even a close friend can benefit. For example, it was reported some time back that President Bharrat Jagdeo walked out of a room with government representatives negotiating business matters related to Queens Atlantic Investments Incorporated, because that company was owned by his friend, Dr. Ranjisinghi ‘Bobby’ Ramroop. Why did he walk out? To pretend as though he was giving the appearance he was avoiding a conflict of interest. At least Mr. Jagdeo played the game right, even if his intentions were already a foregone conclusion here!


And this was what Mr. Brassington was supposed to do: recuse himself from selling the shares directly to his brother. Well, he did say he consulted with the Finance Minister and the then Attorney-General, but honestly, who in that entire cabal would tell him to recuse himself? Anyway, not only did he fail to recuse himself, he sank deeper into his own quagmire when he functioned as his brother’s power of attorney. You can pretty much say he sold himself the shares! He did all the paper work preparation and signed all the signatures!


Now we have AG Nandlall breaking his silence by saying there is no conflict of interest. But this should come as no surprise, given the Jagdeo era culture when right became wrong and wrong became right, Messrs. Nandlall and Brassington may honestly believe they are right, and may only realize their error when a judge tells them in a court of law.


In my next letter, I will address Mr. Nandlall’s amateurish defence of the NICIL debacle and asinine challenge to the parliamentary opposition to take NICIL to court. AG Nandlall has to love embarrassment to be this willing to hear NICIL’s questionable deals exposed in court like the troubling revelations in another well-publicized trial.

Emile Mervin

Mitwah

The truth is somewhere at the center. The opposition should outline how they came to the $50 bill or risk losing credibility. But then again the masses are quite malleable and would not care or understand. I have always said that this NICL was at the heart of the Jagdeo oligarchy where control of the business space is paramount. Conflicts of interests are rife. Favoritism is rife. As I always told the AFC guys, kick-backs never get recorded on the books.  

FM

TK

 

The AFC made wild claims as usual but went into hiding when the debate was arranged. This is disgraceful.

 

AFC drama queens Ramjattan and Moses exposed and are now in hiding. MIA

 

The AG will submit his report. Stop spinning, who are your trying to fool ?


The AFC has no smoking gun.

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:

TK

 

The AFC made wild claims as usual but went into hiding when the debate was arranged. This is disgraceful.

 

AFC drama queens Ramjattan and Moses exposed and are now in hiding. MIA

 

The AG will submit his report. Stop spinning, who are your trying to fool ?


The AFC has no smoking gun.

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There are MANY smoking guys. Politicians often see things differently, however.

FM
Originally Posted by God:

"Clarifying his interest in NICIL, Ram stated that he had requested a copy of the Management Co-operation Agreement which he did not receive, along with NICIL accounts for 2006 to 2011. He referred to this as tardiness in supplying financial information."



Without these statements, a discussion is useless.




SHOULDN'T THE ABSENCE OF THESE DOCUMENTS ALSO PRECLUDE THE LEARNED ACCOUNTANT FROM MAKING ALL THOSE OUTLANDISH CLAIMS ABOUT CORRUPTION ETC ?

FM
Originally Posted by albert:
Originally Posted by God:

"Clarifying his interest in NICIL, Ram stated that he had requested a copy of the Management Co-operation Agreement which he did not receive, along with NICIL accounts for 2006 to 2011. He referred to this as tardiness in supplying financial information."



Without these statements, a discussion is useless.

====

 



SHOULDN'T THE ABSENCE OF THESE DOCUMENTS ALSO PRECLUDE THE LEARNED ACCOUNTANT FROM MAKING ALL THOSE OUTLANDISH CLAIMS ABOUT CORRUPTION ETC ?

 

 

No...the onus of the State is to provide documents.  That is how democracy works. This was what Cheddi Jagan pummeled the PNC on when it did not audit the books. We have to assume they are hiding something when they refuse to provide financial statements. It is the exact standard by which they are judging the AFC MP who cannot have accounts to justify monies spent.

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by albert:
Originally Posted by God:

"Clarifying his interest in NICIL, Ram stated that he had requested a copy of the Management Co-operation Agreement which he did not receive, along with NICIL accounts for 2006 to 2011. He referred to this as tardiness in supplying financial information."



Without these statements, a discussion is useless.




SHOULDN'T THE ABSENCE OF THESE DOCUMENTS ALSO PRECLUDE THE LEARNED ACCOUNTANT FROM MAKING ALL THOSE OUTLANDISH CLAIMS ABOUT CORRUPTION ETC ?

NO, you clown, the failure of the management to make such basic info available prior to any discussion smells concealment and corruption, at least in appearance.  To dis-spell any such concerns, the onus is on the management to be transparent, not on the persons asking questions, that's their right.

FM
Originally Posted by Tar_K:
 

 



SHOULDN'T THE ABSENCE OF THESE DOCUMENTS ALSO PRECLUDE THE LEARNED ACCOUNTANT FROM MAKING ALL THOSE OUTLANDISH CLAIMS ABOUT CORRUPTION ETC ?

 

 

No...the onus of the State is to provide documents.  That is how democracy works. 

 

 

SO THERE'S NO ONUS ON YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES TO MAKE INFORMED STATEMENTS?

ITS THE SAME KIND OF LOGIC USED BY KN AND RAM.......'OK SINCE YOU GUYS ARE NOT WILLING TO PROVIDE ANSWERS WE WILL JUST PUT ANYTHING OUT THERE'

FM
Originally Posted by albert:
Originally Posted by Tar_K:
 

 



SHOULDN'T THE ABSENCE OF THESE DOCUMENTS ALSO PRECLUDE THE LEARNED ACCOUNTANT FROM MAKING ALL THOSE OUTLANDISH CLAIMS ABOUT CORRUPTION ETC ?

 

 

No...the onus of the State is to provide documents.  That is how democracy works. 

 

 

SO THERE'S NO ONUS ON YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES TO MAKE INFORMED STATEMENTS?

ITS THE SAME KIND OF LOGIC USED BY KN AND RAM.......'OK SINCE YOU GUYS ARE NOT WILLING TO PROVIDE ANSWERS WE WILL JUST PUT ANYTHING OUT THERE'

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KN and the opposition will face the consequence of their acts. You jackasses are responsible for providing audited accounts each year. That is what Cheddi Jagan demanded, right Jackass? I asked a simple question. Does Ashni's wife still have a senior position at the AG office?

FM

How accomodating the PPP is to allow everyone to speak and discuss matter of public interest freely. Here is a perfect example of that. The AFC has been extremely reckless in making allegations against the gov't that just cannot be substantiated. Ramjattan has made an ass of himself. This NICIL thing will boomerang in their faces with severe consequences.

 

 

Billy Ram Balgobin
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by albert:
Originally Posted by God:


NO, you clown, the failure of the management to make such basic info available prior to any discussion smells concealment and corruption, at least in appearance.  To dis-spell any such concerns, the onus is on the management to be transparent, not on the persons asking questions, that's their right.

UM.... CAN WE STICK TO THE ISSUE AND SHY AWAY FROM ALL THE NAME CALLING ETC. ARE YOU AWARE THAT GOV'T HELD A BRIEFING SESSION WITH ALL THE OPPOSITION PARTIES WHERE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION ON THE AMALIA FALLS PROJECT, CBJ EXPANSION AND MARRIOTT WERE PRESENTED? ARE YOU AWARE THAT THE PAC HAS OVERSIGHT OVER NICIL? ARE YOU AWARE THAT MOST OF THE INFORMATION THAT COULD ANSWER MANY OF THESE OUTLANDISH CLAIMS ARE IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN?

FM
Originally Posted by albert:
Originally Posted by Tar_K:
 

 



SHOULDN'T THE ABSENCE OF THESE DOCUMENTS ALSO PRECLUDE THE LEARNED ACCOUNTANT FROM MAKING ALL THOSE OUTLANDISH CLAIMS ABOUT CORRUPTION ETC ?

 

 

No...the onus of the State is to provide documents.  That is how democracy works. 

 

 

SO THERE'S NO ONUS ON YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES TO MAKE INFORMED STATEMENTS?

ITS THE SAME KIND OF LOGIC USED BY KN AND RAM.......'OK SINCE YOU GUYS ARE NOT WILLING TO PROVIDE ANSWERS WE WILL JUST PUT ANYTHING OUT THERE'

"INFOMED" by what source when the info is concealed.  To dis-spell "outlandish statements", then do the simple and obligated thing, have full disclosure.  That is where the crux of the matter lies, not with "un-informed" claims.

FM
Originally Posted by albert:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by albert:
Originally Posted by God:


NO, you clown, the failure of the management to make such basic info available prior to any discussion smells concealment and corruption, at least in appearance.  To dis-spell any such concerns, the onus is on the management to be transparent, not on the persons asking questions, that's their right.

UM.... CAN WE STICK TO THE ISSUE AND SHY AWAY FROM ALL THE NAME CALLING ETC. ARE YOU AWARE THAT GOV'T HELD A BRIEFING SESSION WITH ALL THE OPPOSITION PARTIES WHERE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION ON THE AMALIA FALLS PROJECT, CBJ EXPANSION AND MARRIOTT WERE PRESENTED? ARE YOU AWARE THAT THE PAC HAS OVERSIGHT OVER NICIL? ARE YOU AWARE THAT MOST OF THE INFORMATION THAT COULD ANSWER MANY OF THESE OUTLANDISH CLAIMS ARE IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN?

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None of these was provided. Publish the audited statements by the AG office.

FM
Originally Posted by Tar_K:
 

 

SO THERE'S NO ONUS ON YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES TO MAKE INFORMED STATEMENTS?

ITS THE SAME KIND OF LOGIC USED BY KN AND RAM.......'OK SINCE YOU GUYS ARE NOT WILLING TO PROVIDE ANSWERS WE WILL JUST PUT ANYTHING OUT THERE'

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KN and the opposition will face the consequence of their acts. You jackasses are responsible for providing audited accounts each year. That is what Cheddi Jagan demanded, right Jackass? I asked a simple question. Does Ashni's wife still have a senior position at the AG office?

TARRON! TARRON! COOL IT BRO........... THERE'S NO NEED FOR ANY NAME CALLING AND I WILL NOT RESPOND IN KIND. WHY DIDN'T RAMJATTAN AND MOSES TURN UP FOR THE DEBATE? MAYBE CAUSE NCN WOULD NOT HAVE ALLOWED YOU AND SASE TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE VIA SKYPE OR OVOO LOL

FM
Originally Posted by albert:
Originally Posted by Tar_K:
 

 

SO THERE'S NO ONUS ON YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES TO MAKE INFORMED STATEMENTS?

ITS THE SAME KIND OF LOGIC USED BY KN AND RAM.......'OK SINCE YOU GUYS ARE NOT WILLING TO PROVIDE ANSWERS WE WILL JUST PUT ANYTHING OUT THERE'

----

 

KN and the opposition will face the consequence of their acts. You jackasses are responsible for providing audited accounts each year. That is what Cheddi Jagan demanded, right Jackass? I asked a simple question. Does Ashni's wife still have a senior position at the AG office?

TARRON! TARRON! COOL IT BRO........... THERE'S NO NEED FOR ANY NAME CALLING AND I WILL NOT RESPOND IN KIND. WHY DIDN'T RAMJATTAN AND MOSES TURN UP FOR THE DEBATE? MAYBE CAUSE NCN WOULD NOT HAVE ALLOWED YOU AND SASE TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE VIA SKYPE OR OVOO LOL

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I don't know why they did not show up. They will explain that I am sure. That they did not show up does not take away from two facts: (i) There are no audited statements and (ii) Ashni Sings's wife works at AG (is this still the case?). There you have another conflict.

FM
Originally Posted by albert:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by albert:
Originally Posted by God:


NO, you clown, the failure of the management to make such basic info available prior to any discussion smells concealment and corruption, at least in appearance.  To dis-spell any such concerns, the onus is on the management to be transparent, not on the persons asking questions, that's their right.

UM.... CAN WE STICK TO THE ISSUE AND SHY AWAY FROM ALL THE NAME CALLING ETC. ARE YOU AWARE THAT GOV'T HELD A BRIEFING SESSION WITH ALL THE OPPOSITION PARTIES WHERE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION ON THE AMALIA FALLS PROJECT, CBJ EXPANSION AND MARRIOTT WERE PRESENTED? ARE YOU AWARE THAT THE PAC HAS OVERSIGHT OVER NICIL? ARE YOU AWARE THAT MOST OF THE INFORMATION THAT COULD ANSWER MANY OF THESE OUTLANDISH CLAIMS ARE IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN?

All this is hogwash, just do the normal, have disclosure, let an independent auditor comb the book and give a sign off along with statement of position and funds flows.  This is so basic, I cannot believe we are asking for this as though we are asking for personal info.

 

Albert, all that you wrote is just smoke screen and hogwash.  YOU STICK TO THE REAL ISSUE.

FM
Originally Posted by Tar_K:
 

UM.... CAN WE STICK TO THE ISSUE AND SHY AWAY FROM ALL THE NAME CALLING ETC. ARE YOU AWARE THAT GOV'T HELD A BRIEFING SESSION WITH ALL THE OPPOSITION PARTIES WHERE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION ON THE AMALIA FALLS PROJECT, CBJ EXPANSION AND MARRIOTT WERE PRESENTED? ARE YOU AWARE THAT THE PAC HAS OVERSIGHT OVER NICIL? ARE YOU AWARE THAT MOST OF THE INFORMATION THAT COULD ANSWER MANY OF THESE OUTLANDISH CLAIMS ARE IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN?

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None of these was provided. Publish the audited statements by the AG office.

WELL CHRISTOPHER RAM QUESTIONED THE COMPETENCE OF THE AG LAST NIGHT TARRON......... ITS A PITY YOU COULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE. CHRISTOPHER RAM PROPOSED THAT WE BREAK OUR LAWS AND APPOINT AN INDEPENDENT AUDITOR TO AUDIT NICIL. I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL FUNCTIONS OF THE AUDITOR GENERAL'S OFFICE TARRON...

FM
Originally Posted by albert:
Originally Posted by Tar_K:
 

UM.... CAN WE STICK TO THE ISSUE AND SHY AWAY FROM ALL THE NAME CALLING ETC. ARE YOU AWARE THAT GOV'T HELD A BRIEFING SESSION WITH ALL THE OPPOSITION PARTIES WHERE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION ON THE AMALIA FALLS PROJECT, CBJ EXPANSION AND MARRIOTT WERE PRESENTED? ARE YOU AWARE THAT THE PAC HAS OVERSIGHT OVER NICIL? ARE YOU AWARE THAT MOST OF THE INFORMATION THAT COULD ANSWER MANY OF THESE OUTLANDISH CLAIMS ARE IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN?

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None of these was provided. Publish the audited statements by the AG office.

WELL CHRISTOPHER RAM QUESTIONED THE COMPETENCE OF THE AG LAST NIGHT TARRON......... ITS A PITY YOU COULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE. CHRISTOPHER RAM PROPOSED THAT WE BREAK OUR LAWS AND APPOINT AN INDEPENDENT AUDITOR TO AUDIT NICIL. I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL FUNCTIONS OF THE AUDITOR GENERAL'S OFFICE TARRON...

Here you go, skirting the question...again.  Prove everyone wrong, publish a set of audited and credible financials.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by albert:
 

All this is hogwash, just do the normal, have disclosure, let an independent auditor comb the book and give a sign off along with statement of position and funds flows.  

WHAT ARE THE CONSTITUTIONAL FUNCTIONS OF THE AUDITOR GENERAL'S OFFICE BASEMAN ? WHY SHOULD OUR LAWS BE BROKEN TO SATISFY THE CURIOSITY OF A GROUP OF PEOPLE NOTED FOR LIES, MISREPRESENTATION ETC?


DIDN'T THEY SAY THEY WERE CERTAIN JAGDEO WAS GONNA RUN FOR A THIRD TERM?


DIDN'T THEY SAY THEY ARE AGAINST CORRUPTION, CRONYSIM ETC ONLY TO BE EXPOSED AS BEING HYPOCRITICAL BY HASEEF YUSUF?


DIDN'T THEY SAY ROHEE STOLE THE $90M?


AND YET YOU'RE TELLING US THAT WE MUST BREAK OUR LAWS AT THE BEHEST OF THESE GENTLEMEN WITH SUCH A RECORD? 

AFTER MAKING ALL THE CLAIMS OF CORRUPTION ETC THEY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE STOMACH TO COME BACK IT UP ON NATIONAL TV


FM

I am very busy today but we can discuss this more tonight. I have one question, this fella Lall, is he really a Publisher??? Journalism 095, 096 and 099 are required before you get to Journalism 101 (Intro to Basics).

Nehru
Originally Posted by raymond:

looks like ah bunch of leeches and thieves at the table


Ah gun tell Mr Lall and Mr Ram waht you said.

 

Seriously, Mr Ram should be part of this Govt. He is genuinely concerned with the TRUTH, with the Taxpayers money and with The Rule of Law. WE need more like. NO DEMOCRACY is successful without the PROPER Checks and Balances!!!!

Nehru
Originally Posted by albert:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by albert:
 

All this is hogwash, just do the normal, have disclosure, let an independent auditor comb the book and give a sign off along with statement of position and funds flows.  

WHAT ARE THE CONSTITUTIONAL FUNCTIONS OF THE AUDITOR GENERAL'S OFFICE BASEMAN ? WHY SHOULD OUR LAWS BE BROKEN TO SATISFY THE CURIOSITY OF A GROUP OF PEOPLE NOTED FOR LIES, MISREPRESENTATION ETC?


DIDN'T THEY SAY THEY WERE CERTAIN JAGDEO WAS GONNA RUN FOR A THIRD TERM?


DIDN'T THEY SAY THEY ARE AGAINST CORRUPTION, CRONYSIM ETC ONLY TO BE EXPOSED AS BEING HYPOCRITICAL BY HASEEF YUSUF?


DIDN'T THEY SAY ROHEE STOLE THE $90M?


AND YET YOU'RE TELLING US THAT WE MUST BREAK OUR LAWS AT THE BEHEST OF THESE GENTLEMEN WITH SUCH A RECORD? 

AFTER MAKING ALL THE CLAIMS OF CORRUPTION ETC THEY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE STOMACH TO COME BACK IT UP ON NATIONAL TV


Is that what they told you dummy?...that they cannot give an accounting because they do not have to given the self audit?

 

The money is not the the PPPs. We are the people and the the laws are of us. The PPP are administrators. Administrations are required to submit their audits to the representatives of the People ie Parliament. They will learn the meaning of that in jail perhaps.

FM
Originally Posted by ABIDHA:

Khemraj and Moses are spineless jellyfish. They were put to the test and failed. What more can I say? Stormborn, stop making excuses for wimps!

 A CEO and corporated board does not need a debate to answer an allegation of misappropreation of funds. The laws of Guyana or anywhere esle are require audited yearly reports for share holders and corporate taxes, this is  not only government but also private corporation. Ramjatan et al are well within their rights to boycott that freak show...

sachin_05
Originally Posted by ABIDHA:

Khemraj and Moses are spineless jellyfish. They were put to the test and failed. What more can I say? Stormborn, stop making excuses for wimps!

 I suggest you look at yourself. Ramjattan or Granger or whom ever has little to do with the PPP wanting a debate when they should be submitting an accounting of what they did with the state assets. They are a decade over due.

FM

The PPP government and its AG exude unbridled ignorance and arrogance

 

May 22, 2012 | By | Filed Under Letters 

 

 

DEAR EDITOR,
After reading KN’s news articles, “AG challenges Opposition to move to courts on NICIL,” and “Anil Nandlall defends Brassington brothers,” (May 21), I am convinced that the PPP government and its Attorney-General make for a perfect fit, as they exude unbridled ignorance and arrogance, thinking it will somehow pass for governance substance.


Take the Brassington brothers’ issue for starters. Without rehashing all the details surrounding the transaction that allowed for NICIL’s Executive Director, Mr. Winston Brasington, to act on his brother’s behalf to buy 2.25 million shares valued at GY$225M from a company that NICIL had acquired, this has conflict of interest written all over it.

What’s rather telling, though, is that at no time at all did the brother ever leave the United States to sign off on the purchase. How on earth can Mr. Jonathan Brassington decide to invest over US$1M in Guyana and not be present at the time of signing off on the investment? In fact, where did he find over US$1M from to invest in Guyana? Did he have that kind of money to invest or did he borrow it from a bank in America or a bank in Guyana? I hope the Feds don’t go ringing his doorbell wherever he lives in America, because NICIL is going to blow like a volcano and spill ashes on some people.


Mr. Winston Brassington, meanwhile, emerged as both the seller of the shares and the power of attorney for his brother who bought the shares, yet Attorney-General Mr. Nandlall sees no conflict of interest here! This combination of ignorance and arrogance has long come to pass for acceptable governance substance in the PPP government, but neither Messrs. Nandlall nor Brassington is the final arbiter of what constitutes a conflict of interest.

I challenge anyone to present this matter as a case study at the University of the West Indies or the Hugh Wooding Law School to determine if it is a conflict of interest and I will wager US$1000 it will deemed as such. As a layman, I did a quick research on what constitutes a conflict of interest and this is one definition from Tufts University’s Finance Division.


It says, “A conflict of interest exists when an employee or a family member is in a position to benefit personally, directly or indirectly, from his or her relationship with a person or entity conducting business with the University.  All employees have an obligation to avoid conflict, or the appearance of conflict, between their personal interests and the interests of the University and to avoid any situation that affects, or potentially could affect, his or her independent, unbiased judgment in the discharge of his or her duties to the University. An employee should recuse himself or herself from making any decision relating to University business, when the employee is aware of circumstances that might reasonably cause his or her impartiality to be questioned.”


Another definition from WiseGeek.com says a conflict of interest exists if, for example, “a city councilman awards a lucrative contract to a company owned by his brother. It would not be illegal to award such a contract…even if that company was owned by a relative, but the councilman himself could not be part of the decision-making process. There would be an obvious conflict of interest, because the councilman’s own family would benefit financially from his position of power.”
So, in both the Tuft University and WiseGeek references, the key to avoiding a conflict of interest is to recuse or remove one’s self from any proceeding where self or relative or even a close friend can benefit. For example, it was reported some time back that President Bharrat Jagdeo walked out of a room with government representatives negotiating business matters related to Queens Atlantic Investments Incorporated, because that company was owned by his friend, Dr. Ranjisinghi ‘Bobby’ Ramroop. Why did he walk out? To pretend as though he was giving the appearance he was avoiding a conflict of interest. At least Mr. Jagdeo played the game right, even if his intentions were already a foregone conclusion here!


And this was what Mr. Brassington was supposed to do: recuse himself from selling the shares directly to his brother. Well, he did say he consulted with the Finance Minister and the then Attorney-General, but honestly, who in that entire cabal would tell him to recuse himself? Anyway, not only did he fail to recuse himself, he sank deeper into his own quagmire when he functioned as his brother’s power of attorney. You can pretty much say he sold himself the shares! He did all the paper work preparation and signed all the signatures!


Now we have AG Nandlall breaking his silence by saying there is no conflict of interest. But this should come as no surprise, given the Jagdeo era culture when right became wrong and wrong became right, Messrs. Nandlall and Brassington may honestly believe they are right, and may only realize their error when a judge tells them in a court of law.


In my next letter, I will address Mr. Nandlall’s amateurish defence of the NICIL debacle and asinine challenge to the parliamentary opposition to take NICIL to court. AG Nandlall has to love embarrassment to be this willing to hear NICIL’s questionable deals exposed in court like the troubling revelations in another well-publicized trial.

Emile Mervin

Mitwah
Originally Posted by sachin_05:
Originally Posted by ABIDHA:

Khemraj and Moses are spineless jellyfish. They were put to the test and failed. What more can I say? Stormborn, stop making excuses for wimps!

 A CEO and corporated board does not need a debate to answer an allegation of misappropreation of funds. The laws of Guyana or anywhere esle are require audited yearly reports for share holders and corporate taxes, this is  not only government but also private corporation. Ramjatan et al are well within their rights to boycott that freak show...

The freak show will start when Ramjattan will be humping all his NA supporters from old to young. That time soon come!

FM
Originally Posted by ABIDHA:
Originally Posted by sachin_05:
Originally Posted by ABIDHA:

Khemraj and Moses are spineless jellyfish. They were put to the test and failed. What more can I say? Stormborn, stop making excuses for wimps!

 A CEO and corporated board does not need a debate to answer an allegation of misappropreation of funds. The laws of Guyana or anywhere esle are require audited yearly reports for share holders and corporate taxes, this is  not only government but also private corporation. Ramjatan et al are well within their rights to boycott that freak show...

The freak show will start when Ramjattan will be humping all his NA supporters from old to young. That time soon come!

like yall en't gat enough fiah up ayuh kakahole yet

sachin_05

I watched this debate and there is no smoking gun. Drama queen Ramjattan will slowly destroy the AFC.

 

To be constructive, Ramjattan and Moses have done great harm to the AFC by not showing up. This adds more to the public mistrust of the AFC. KN and the media outlets are indicating that they need the government to reach out to the media.

 

The PPP needs a better PR consultant.

 

The government should and must provide information that can be legally provided to the media in a timely manner.

 

The media should be more responsible when publishing articles that cannot be substantiated.

 

There needs to be more transparency in the way government operates in Guyana.

 

Opposition parliamentarians must be more responsible and accountable when making claims that cannot be substantiated.

 

The AFC needs to refocus on it's original role of being the balancing force in parliament. It will do them no harm.

 

Guyana needs more public debates with opposition MP's and government officials and ministers.

 

Guyanese cares passionately about Guyana and need to engage in more dialogue rather than constant bickering.

 

AFC needs to provide answers about fraud. corruption and nepotism within the top brass of the party. They need to refocus.

FM

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