Keith posted:

A Call to Godly Living

Romans 12:1

The apostle Paul lived in an age when sensuality, the pursuit of pleasure, and rebellion against the Lord were prevalent. In response, he wrote letters urging Christians not to follow in the ways of the world. Like those early believers, we are to pursue godliness by...

Presenting our bodies to God. Our total being—mind, will, physical body, personality, and emotions—are to be turned over to our heavenly Father (James 4:7). Submitting ourselves to the Lord requires both a definite decision to give Him control and a daily commitment to remain under His authority. By surrendering to Him, we position ourselves for godly living.

Becoming living sacrifices. The Christian life is built around the concept of sacrifice. Jesus left the perfection of heaven to dwell among a sinful people so He might reconcile us to God. He offered up His life for our sake—to make payment for our sins (1 John 3:16) and to bring us into His family. And as believers, we are to follow His example. Paul called it a living sacrifice, because it is ongoing and repeated daily.

Life is full of options. Many decisions involve a choice between following God’s way or our own. Maturing Christians will increasingly sacrifice their own desires and embrace His will.

A life of godliness is characterized by a heart and mind bent toward the things of God. Although we will live imperfectly, our aim should be to obey His will and please Him. Let’s commit to becoming more like Jesus, the one who willingly gave Himself as a sacrifice for us.

"The apostle Paul lived in an age when sensuality, the pursuit of pleasure, and rebellion against the Lord were prevalent."

No different than today. Nothing has changed since then. The larger the world's population, the more we see people seeking pleasure and indulging carnal activities. Looks like Paul's words did not make a difference.

skeldon_man posted:

Keith posted:

A Call to Godly Living

Romans 12:1

The apostle Paul lived in an age when sensuality, the pursuit of pleasure, and rebellion against the Lord were prevalent. In response, he wrote letters urging Christians not to follow in the ways of the world. Like those early believers, we are to pursue godliness by...

Presenting our bodies to God. Our total being—mind, will, physical body, personality, and emotions—are to be turned over to our heavenly Father (James 4:7). Submitting ourselves to the Lord requires both a definite decision to give Him control and a daily commitment to remain under His authority. By surrendering to Him, we position ourselves for godly living.

Becoming living sacrifices. The Christian life is built around the concept of sacrifice. Jesus left the perfection of heaven to dwell among a sinful people so He might reconcile us to God. He offered up His life for our sake—to make payment for our sins (1 John 3:16) and to bring us into His family. And as believers, we are to follow His example. Paul called it a living sacrifice, because it is ongoing and repeated daily.

Life is full of options. Many decisions involve a choice between following God’s way or our own. Maturing Christians will increasingly sacrifice their own desires and embrace His will.

A life of godliness is characterized by a heart and mind bent toward the things of God. Although we will live imperfectly, our aim should be to obey His will and please Him. Let’s commit to becoming more like Jesus, the one who willingly gave Himself as a sacrifice for us.

"The apostle Paul lived in an age when sensuality, the pursuit of pleasure, and rebellion against the Lord were prevalent."

No different than today. Nothing has changed since then. The larger the world's population, the more we see people seeking pleasure and indulging carnal activities. Looks like Paul's words did not make a difference.

Exactly Skelly. Check out how these preachers are living Paul's teachings. Even Pastor Stanley that Bro. Keith get his sermons from has a net worth 1.5 million. Religion is all about money, sex and power. Only fools line up to drink the Kool aid.

I never knew George Foreman is also a preacher dam! I have to get myself a good book a milk crate and a loud speaker.

Developing a Godly Lifestyle

cain posted:

I never knew George Foreman is also a preacher dam! I have to get myself a good book a milk crate and a loud speaker.

My guess is that George earned his money outside of the church. Not like these others who screwed it out of their financially struggling followers.

Other point is these preachers clearly don't buy into the sacrifices that they preach to their gullible followers.

Down in New Orleans, you have these preachers telling the naked skin folks to cover up but my guess is those preachers are there on the church's dime checking out those naked skin people.

Fellowship With Jesus

ksazma posted:

skeldon_man posted:

Keith posted:

A Call to Godly Living

Romans 12:1

The apostle Paul lived in an age when sensuality, the pursuit of pleasure, and rebellion against the Lord were prevalent. In response, he wrote letters urging Christians not to follow in the ways of the world. Like those early believers, we are to pursue godliness by...

Presenting our bodies to God. Our total being—mind, will, physical body, personality, and emotions—are to be turned over to our heavenly Father (James 4:7). Submitting ourselves to the Lord requires both a definite decision to give Him control and a daily commitment to remain under His authority. By surrendering to Him, we position ourselves for godly living.

Becoming living sacrifices. The Christian life is built around the concept of sacrifice. Jesus left the perfection of heaven to dwell among a sinful people so He might reconcile us to God. He offered up His life for our sake—to make payment for our sins (1 John 3:16) and to bring us into His family. And as believers, we are to follow His example. Paul called it a living sacrifice, because it is ongoing and repeated daily.

Life is full of options. Many decisions involve a choice between following God’s way or our own. Maturing Christians will increasingly sacrifice their own desires and embrace His will.

A life of godliness is characterized by a heart and mind bent toward the things of God. Although we will live imperfectly, our aim should be to obey His will and please Him. Let’s commit to becoming more like Jesus, the one who willingly gave Himself as a sacrifice for us.

"The apostle Paul lived in an age when sensuality, the pursuit of pleasure, and rebellion against the Lord were prevalent."

No different than today. Nothing has changed since then. The larger the world's population, the more we see people seeking pleasure and indulging carnal activities. Looks like Paul's words did not make a difference.

Exactly Skelly. Check out how these preachers are living Paul's teachings. Even Pastor Stanley that Bro. Keith get his sermons from has a net worth 1.5 million. Religion is all about money, sex and power. Only fools line up to drink the Kool aid.

Don't forget Swaggart spent his on hiring hookers. Jimmy Baker got his money during the time he was banging Jessica Hahn. Billy Graham's son, Franklin is using his father's fame to make a living. Lazy and spoiled idiot.

So here we have a pastor and also an author, Charles Stanley, who's been preaching for over 45+ years amass a net worth of $1.5 million. Am I missing something? What's wrong with $1.5 million over 40 plus years of writing books and preaching? Preachers do get a salary incase you didn't know and they are some who refuse a salary.

Keith posted:

So here we have a pastor and also an author, Charles Stanley, who's been preaching for over 45+ years amass a net worth of $1.5 million. Am I missing something? What's wrong with $1.5 million over 40 plus years of writing books and preaching? Preachers do get a salary incase you didn't know and they are some who refuse a salary.

Now that you have addressed it, your next question should be WWJD. Or better yet, WWPD since Christians follow Paul's teachings.

Keith posted:

So here we have a pastor and also an author, Charles Stanley, who's been preaching for over 45+ years amass a net worth of $1.5 million. Am I missing something? What's wrong with $1.5 million over 40 plus years of writing books and preaching? Preachers do get a salary incase you didn't know and they are some who refuse a salary.

Ask yourself, "why is Charles Stanley fleecing the old and poor"? Why can't he go out and toil for his food like the rest of the world..like getting a real job?

skeldon_man posted:

Don't forget Swaggart spent his on hiring hookers. Jimmy Baker got his money during the time he was banging Jessica Hahn. Billy Graham's son, Franklin is using his father's fame to make a living. Lazy and spoiled idiot.

Ohmagosh that po po Tammy Baker she used to be on tv crying the blues all the time as her face melted.

The Power of Love

skeldon_man posted:

Keith posted:

So here we have a pastor and also an author, Charles Stanley, who's been preaching for over 45+ years amass a net worth of $1.5 million. Am I missing something? What's wrong with $1.5 million over 40 plus years of writing books and preaching? Preachers do get a salary incase you didn't know and they are some who refuse a salary.

Ask yourself, "why is Charles Stanley fleecing the old and poor"? Why can't he go out and toil for his food like the rest of the world..like getting a real job?

I don't have too, maybe you should sit and ponder your thoughts for awhile.

ksazma posted:

Keith posted:

So here we have a pastor and also an author, Charles Stanley, who's been preaching for over 45+ years amass a net worth of $1.5 million. Am I missing something? What's wrong with $1.5 million over 40 plus years of writing books and preaching? Preachers do get a salary incase you didn't know and they are some who refuse a salary.

Now that you have addressed it, your next question should be WWJD. Or better yet, WWPD since Christians follow Paul's teachings.

You are all acting a child would. The man job is to preach, "feed the flock" per say. He gets invitation to speaking engagement around the country and world, he's even an author, that's his lively hood. The Baptist church, don't quote me on this, either paid him a salary or not. But even if they do, his net worth is justifiable for the 40 years plus

I cannot speak for those who're in the faith(religion) just for the money and does things that makes the religion looks bad in the eves of you all. Name a religion where there's a leader who have not stumbled.

So what you saying is while he preaches that others should do what Paul taught, he isn't and doesn't have to.

ksazma posted:

So what you saying is while he preaches that others should do what Paul taught, he isn't and doesn't have to.

You speak a lot about Paul teaching. What's it that Paul has taught you are referring too?

One has to be careful of whom he/she listens too. Paul said in 2nd Timothy 2:15, "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." As we sit listening to a pastor/imam/sheikh speak, it's our duty to discern what's true. How? by studying the Word of God. There are many pastors out there I've listened too but their words never resonated with me spiritually.

ksazma posted:

Then again. If we take the Bible literally, Cain was also screwing his mother, Eve.

Cainsta, yuh prappah wutliss.

That is the musim point of view.

Judgemet day coming soon.

Muslims are quick to point out the rise of Islam, claiming it will be the dominant religion in the near future. According to that comment, one can actually start counting off the days of Judgement.

Learned Muslims have declared in writing, that at the END TIMES, the world will hasten towards ONLY ONE RELGION. The OPERATIVE word is the END TIMES.  Chief keeping tabs on the rise of Islam, he goan let alyuh know when the Lord returns. And when the Lord comes, the fiery sword from the Garden of Eden will dash to pieces the Madhi/The Muslim Christ.

Two things Saggabai, if you are suggesting that it is not a Biblical point of view that Cain screwed his mother how do you explain the continuation of the population beyond Adam, Eve and Cain. Who screwed who to bring others into life back then?

Secondly, this End Times is a term you believe in so don't go dabbing it on others.

Back to the original statement, if Adam used powerful evacuations to impregnate Eve and they have tons of children, how did everyone get born if either Cain and his brothers weren't screwing their mother or sisters?

Keith posted:

ksazma posted:

So what you saying is while he preaches that others should do what Paul taught, he isn't and doesn't have to.

You speak a lot about Paul teaching. What's it that Paul has taught you are referring too?

Funny that immediately after asking this question you quoted Paul's teaching. It didn't take long for you to prove my point. 

Cain man, no one should fall for Tammy Faye's crocodile tears. She had no problem enjoying Jimmy Bakker's gravy train. Look at how that Crouch woman on TBN does have orgasms during their fund raising telecasts.

ksazma posted:

Two things Saggabai, if you are suggesting that it is not a Biblical point of view that Cain screwed his mother how do you explain the continuation of the population beyond Adam, Eve and Cain. Who screwed who to bring others into life back then?

Secondly, this End Times is a term you believe in so don't go dabbing it on others.

Back to the original statement, if Adam used powerful evacuations to impregnate Eve and they have tons of children, how did everyone get born if either Cain and his brothers weren't screwing their mother or sisters?

I think there were lots of orangutans around at the time. Dem Jewish People were elected the chosen, dem get spared. Cain was a wicked chap, I think he was the first to mess wid animals. Suh, Darwin and his Monkey Business might be true-you descendants are from Cain. seeing you nah Jewish. Suh monkey up in the family tree.  

How you explain the Madhi coming out of Iran. 

Choosing Love Over Rights

ksazma posted:

Keith posted:

ksazma posted:

So what you saying is while he preaches that others should do what Paul taught, he isn't and doesn't have to.

You speak a lot about Paul teaching. What's it that Paul has taught you are referring too?

Funny that immediately after asking this question you quoted Paul's teaching. It didn't take long for you to prove my point. 

It was intentional and I don't see any point being proved. You speak of Paul and yet don't understand his messages or the Bible in general.

Bai Saggabai, I don't support the theory of God creating only Adam and Eve and neither do Muslims so we are not burdened by the idea of lots of sexing up between Adam, Eve and Cain with producing everyone in the world today through powerful ejaculations as you refer to it.

Secondly, there is no need for any Mahdi from Iran or anywhere else.

Keith posted:

ksazma posted:

Keith posted:

ksazma posted:

So what you saying is while he preaches that others should do what Paul taught, he isn't and doesn't have to.

You speak a lot about Paul teaching. What's it that Paul has taught you are referring too?

Funny that immediately after asking this question you quoted Paul's teaching. It didn't take long for you to prove my point. 

it was intentional

Not so. Go back and review all your sermons posted here and you will see they are ALL teachings of Paul.

You are failing to answer the question, I don't have to review anything. I am familiar with the Books Paul wrote in the bible.

I am asking you give us clarity on your quote below:
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"So what you saying is while he preaches that others should do what Paul taught, he isn't and doesn't have to."
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As stated before, "You speak a lot about Paul teaching. What's it that Paul has taught you are referring too?"

Dude, I provided the support when I made the observation. Your failure to either recognize it or accept it is your detriment. Deal with it.

Keith posted:

skeldon_man posted:

Keith posted:

So here we have a pastor and also an author, Charles Stanley, who's been preaching for over 45+ years amass a net worth of $1.5 million. Am I missing something? What's wrong with $1.5 million over 40 plus years of writing books and preaching? Preachers do get a salary incase you didn't know and they are some who refuse a salary.

Ask yourself, "why is Charles Stanley fleecing the old and poor"? Why can't he go out and toil for his food like the rest of the world..like getting a real job?

I don't have too, maybe you should sit and ponder your thoughts for awhile.

Brother Keith, I have toiled for 46 years and earned everything I own. I did it the hard way, I earned it. Think about it. You appreciate what you own when you earn it. Maybe I should have invented a religion and preach on TV so I can fleece the old and the poor. But, that's not what my conscience told me. I am not a con artist.

If the message of salvation through Jesus was so clear and easy to understand, why do so many Christian preachers resort to deceitful 'miracles' shenanigans to attract followers? Why can't they simply explain their teachings like leaders of other faiths instead of pulling off these 'miracles' scams like what other cults do?

The Character of Gossip

Ending Gossip in Our Life

What is all this obsession over whether something honors or dishonors God? Of what value is a God whose honor depends on the actions of his creations? It just demonstrates the silliness that preachers preach. Any God worth my attention has to be free of all the difficiencies and insecurities that His or Her creatures have. God does not stop being God just because all His or Her creatures deny them. The nonsense that these preachers will only make sense to silly people.

But then again, it is easy to see why they preach this nonsense. Afterall they read the Bible which tells them that God is a jealous God. Jealous of who? Creatures who are supposed to be so inferior while God is supposed to be so perfect? Any God who is jealous of His or Her creatures is a stupid God and isn't worth anyone's time or effort.

Imagine a lord that needs people to bring glory to it. Such a lord is a creation of those who then turn around and worship that which they created. And to make matters worse, turn around and mock others by labeling them idol worshippers when what you do is no different.

ksazma posted:

Bai Saggabai, I don't support the theory of God creating only Adam and Eve and neither do Muslims so we are not burdened by the idea of lots of sexing up between Adam, Eve and Cain with producing everyone in the world today through powerful ejaculations as you refer to it.

Secondly, there is no need for any Mahdi from Iran or anywhere else.

Suh why you asked the question about where the other people came from.

The time of the muslims were about 1500 years ago. They are not new to knowledge. Before the umbrella of muslim, they were from the babylonians, syrians, assyrians, medes, persians and all ah dem other ......ites. Those societies have lots of documented espisodes of the existense of life. Many of what is written on clay tablets are recorded in the bible. Which is the first, I doan know. But I know God is supreme, He was the beginning, knowlegde is from Him, He gave man the tongue so the man can express his thoughts. Suh, I conclude God is everything and gave that power to The Christ.

ksazma posted:

What is all this obsession over whether something honors or dishonors God? Of what value is a God whose honor depends on the actions of his creations? It just demonstrates the silliness that preachers preach. Any God worth my attention has to be free of all the difficiencies and insecurities that His or Her creatures have. God does not stop being God just because all His or Her creatures deny them. The nonsense that these preachers will only make sense to silly people.

But then again, it is easy to see why they preach this nonsense. Afterall they read the Bible which tells them that God is a jealous God. Jealous of who? Creatures who are supposed to be so inferior while God is supposed to be so perfect? Any God who is jealous of His or Her creatures is a stupid God and isn't worth anyone's time or effort.

The Jewish Rabbi seys, "God don't care one iota what mankind does."

I say, God has sent Christ so that man would have the opportunity of everlasting life. A good person has a place assigned. Likewise a bad person has a delegated place as well.

Christ will be the Judge.

Genuine Awareness

How can Christ be the judge when he said "judge not that you be not judged". Why would he be hypocritical to tell others not to do what he would do?

seignet posted:

ksazma posted:

Bai Saggabai, I don't support the theory of God creating only Adam and Eve and neither do Muslims so we are not burdened by the idea of lots of sexing up between Adam, Eve and Cain with producing everyone in the world today through powerful ejaculations as you refer to it.

Secondly, there is no need for any Mahdi from Iran or anywhere else.

Suh why you asked the question about where the other people came from.

The time of the muslims were about 1500 years ago. They are not new to knowledge. Before the umbrella of muslim, they were from the babylonians, syrians, assyrians, medes, persians and all ah dem other ......ites. Those societies have lots of documented espisodes of the existense of life. Many of what is written on clay tablets are recorded in the bible. Which is the first, I doan know. But I know God is supreme, He was the beginning, knowlegde is from Him, He gave man the tongue so the man can express his thoughts. Suh, I conclude God is everything and gave that power to The Christ.

I asked where everyone came from to show that if everyone came from Adam, Eve and their son Cain through them having sex then there had to be a lot of sex going on between those three. I don't support the argument that everyone descended from those three and their incests nor does science. 

ksazma posted:

seignet posted:

ksazma posted:

Bai Saggabai, I don't support the theory of God creating only Adam and Eve and neither do Muslims so we are not burdened by the idea of lots of sexing up between Adam, Eve and Cain with producing everyone in the world today through powerful ejaculations as you refer to it.

Secondly, there is no need for any Mahdi from Iran or anywhere else.

Suh why you asked the question about where the other people came from.

The time of the muslims were about 1500 years ago. They are not new to knowledge. Before the umbrella of muslim, they were from the babylonians, syrians, assyrians, medes, persians and all ah dem other ......ites. Those societies have lots of documented espisodes of the existense of life. Many of what is written on clay tablets are recorded in the bible. Which is the first, I doan know. But I know God is supreme, He was the beginning, knowlegde is from Him, He gave man the tongue so the man can express his thoughts. Suh, I conclude God is everything and gave that power to The Christ.

I asked where everyone came from to show that if everyone came from Adam, Eve and their son Cain through them having sex then there had to be a lot of sex going on between those three. I don't support the argument that everyone descended from those three and their incests nor does science. 

There is a show called Aleins. They have the idea that mankind was an experiment.

When one considers the great civilizations around the globe, I cannot come to grips that man was once an ape. In the beginning man was knowledgeable, considering the size of monuments they built. And the thoughts they expressed in written forms. Just considering the Psalms, just stunns the mind of the depth of reflections.