Former Member
Granger to rice farmers in crisis: “It’s a private arrangement… not a Government arrangement”
October 3, 2015 By GuyanaTimes
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According to the document released on September 3, the millers who were yet to pay off rice farmers are Wazeer Hussein (Dry Shore/KSCL) – $285,360,540; Ramesh Ramlakhan (Ex-Mouth) – $156,584,455; Deonarine (Evergreen) – $135,000,000; Old Mac Guyana Inc – $28,300,000 and La Resource Rice Industry – $27,600,000.
These millers needs to go to jail and have their assets confiscated until they paid up. Need to use some MAFIA tatics.
QUOTE: '“It’s a private arrangement… Farmer-miller-market… It’s not a Government arrangement,” he [Granger] firmly stated.
That's a fact.
Nagamootoo and Ramjattan should fork out the money from their pockets and pay for making empty promises. They foolishly fixed a $9000/bag price without determining whether millers could afford to pay, having regard to their production costs and sales revenue. They must learn a lesson not to make big unrealistic promises to get votes. They have now put the coalition in an embarrassing position. I am being bloody blunt here, and who vex can drink Marvex.
Two former PPP inept members were put in charge of running the Government.
These guys don't have a clue what to do. If you want to fly, you must first learn how to walk and run. They have a whole decade to learn how to fly.
I hate the excuse that Rome was not built in a day.
RICE DEAD, SUGAR DEAD , BUSINESSES DEAD, Coolie Dead. I think Cain would say ,plant dope.
RICE DEAD, SUGAR DEAD , BUSINESSES DEAD, Coolie Dead. I think Cain would say ,plant dope.
KP, why should Guyana continue producing sugar at 45 cents per pound, whils't the market price is 13 cents per pound?
RICE DEAD, SUGAR DEAD , BUSINESSES DEAD, Coolie Dead. I think Cain would say ,plant dope.
KP, why should Guyana continue producing sugar at 45 cents per pound, whils't the market price is 13 cents per pound?
Come in kp what is the solution diversify or continue.
RICE DEAD, SUGAR DEAD , BUSINESSES DEAD, Coolie Dead. I think Cain would say ,plant dope.
KP, why should Guyana continue producing sugar at 45 cents per pound, whils't the market price is 13 cents per pound?
Is this why some countries passed laws for assisted suicide.
There come a time in life or business where things must change,end, or the entire basket of eggs could get broken.
RICE DEAD, SUGAR DEAD , BUSINESSES DEAD, Coolie Dead. I think Cain would say ,plant dope.
KP, why should Guyana continue producing sugar at 45 cents per pound, whils't the market price is 13 cents per pound?
Maybe the rice farmers should stop planting rice also.
RICE DEAD, SUGAR DEAD , BUSINESSES DEAD, Coolie Dead. I think Cain would say ,plant dope.
KP, why should Guyana continue producing sugar at 45 cents per pound, whils't the market price is 13 cents per pound?
Sugar,rice and small businesses, if don't succeed ,who will it impact negatively ? The 51% of population who are Indian will directly or indirectly suffer at their failure. While, money is spent in boosting the army, police and national service who employ predominantly Blacks, and what these fellas do, nothing, no war to fight, crime is up and no jobs for the youths, they sit all day shining their boots . They are like leaches ,get a good salary, free clothes, free food, free transportation, free housing and who pays for that? tax payers--rice farmers, sugar workers, and businesses. So, don't cut the hand that feed you!!!
RICE DEAD, SUGAR DEAD , BUSINESSES DEAD, Coolie Dead. I think Cain would say ,plant dope.
KP, why should Guyana continue producing sugar at 45 cents per pound, whils't the market price is 13 cents per pound?
Maybe the rice farmers should stop planting rice also.
Top rice producing U.S. states in 2013 and 2014 (in 1,000 cwt)*
This statistic shows the leading U.S. states according to the highest rice production in 2013 and 2014. Louisiana was the third leading rice producing state with 32.7 million cwt of rice produced in 2014.
RICE DEAD, SUGAR DEAD , BUSINESSES DEAD, Coolie Dead. I think Cain would say ,plant dope.
KP, why should Guyana continue producing sugar at 45 cents per pound, whils't the market price is 13 cents per pound?
Maybe the rice farmers should stop planting rice also.
Top rice producing U.S. states in 2013 and 2014 (in 1,000 cwt)*
This statistic shows the leading U.S. states according to the highest rice production in 2013 and 2014. Louisiana was the third leading rice producing state with 32.7 million cwt of rice produced in 2014.
Cannot compare Guyana and US. Guyana cannot afford to buy US rice if Guyanese rice farmers stop planting rice. Coolie guh punish.
RICE DEAD, SUGAR DEAD , BUSINESSES DEAD, Coolie Dead. I think Cain would say ,plant dope.
He He He...Cain may be right....there is big money in dope selling....big market in US
RICE DEAD, SUGAR DEAD , BUSINESSES DEAD, Coolie Dead. I think Cain would say ,plant dope.
KP, why should Guyana continue producing sugar at 45 cents per pound, whils't the market price is 13 cents per pound?
Sugar,rice and small businesses, if don't succeed ,who will it impact negatively ? The 51% of population who are Indian will directly or indirectly suffer at their failure. While, money is spent in boosting the army, police and national service who employ predominantly Blacks, and what these fellas do, nothing, no war to fight, crime is up and no jobs for the youths, they sit all day shining their boots . They are like leaches ,get a good salary, free clothes, free food, free transportation, free housing and who pays for that? tax payers--rice farmers, sugar workers, and businesses. So, don't cut the hand that feed you!!!
Indians are not 51% of the population they are around 43%.
RICE DEAD, SUGAR DEAD , BUSINESSES DEAD, Coolie Dead. I think Cain would say ,plant dope.
KP, why should Guyana continue producing sugar at 45 cents per pound, whils't the market price is 13 cents per pound?
Sugar,rice and small businesses, if don't succeed ,who will it impact negatively ? The 51% of population who are Indian will directly or indirectly suffer at their failure. While, money is spent in boosting the army, police and national service who employ predominantly Blacks, and what these fellas do, nothing, no war to fight, crime is up and no jobs for the youths, they sit all day shining their boots . They are like leaches ,get a good salary, free clothes, free food, free transportation, free housing and who pays for that? tax payers--rice farmers, sugar workers, and businesses. So, don't cut the hand that feed you!!!
KP, you raise some good points here.
What is your solution to the failing sugar industry, keep subsiding it and at what cost, when world sugar is so cheap ?
I agree that a lot of Indians might suffer if the subsidy is discontinued..
But how do you see this being resolved ?
RICE DEAD, SUGAR DEAD , BUSINESSES DEAD, Coolie Dead. I think Cain would say ,plant dope.
KP, why should Guyana continue producing sugar at 45 cents per pound, whils't the market price is 13 cents per pound?
Maybe the rice farmers should stop planting rice also.
Top rice producing U.S. states in 2013 and 2014 (in 1,000 cwt)*
This statistic shows the leading U.S. states according to the highest rice production in 2013 and 2014. Louisiana was the third leading rice producing state with 32.7 million cwt of rice produced in 2014.
Cannot compare Guyana and US. Guyana cannot afford to buy US rice if Guyanese rice farmers stop planting rice. Coolie guh punish.
Are the rice workers in the States primarily white?
Now the shoes is on the other foot, the new govt now has no solution to the country's ills. One set of crooks replaced by another in govt. Crime continues, economy down, no PPP locked up for corruption and the new govt splurging the tax payers monies on overseas trips, luxury vehicles etc. Doing the same things they promised to stamp out. The beat goes on.
Now the shoes is on the other foot, the new govt now has no solution to the country's ills. One set of crooks replaced by another in govt. Crime continues, economy down, no PPP locked up for corruption and the new govt splurging the tax payers monies on overseas trips, luxury vehicles etc. Doing the same things they promised to stamp out. The beat goes on.
BGurd...you back bhai.
RICE DEAD, SUGAR DEAD , BUSINESSES DEAD, Coolie Dead. I think Cain would say ,plant dope.
He He He...Cain may be right....there is big money in dope selling....big market in US
Two more have seen the light..all praise to da'erb.
Top movers now...Bamboo, Coconut, 'erb.
RICE DEAD, SUGAR DEAD , BUSINESSES DEAD, Coolie Dead. I think Cain would say ,plant dope.
KP, why should Guyana continue producing sugar at 45 cents per pound, whils't the market price is 13 cents per pound?
Sugar,rice and small businesses, if don't succeed ,who will it impact negatively ? The 51% of population who are Indian will directly or indirectly suffer at their failure. While, money is spent in boosting the army, police and national service who employ predominantly Blacks, and what these fellas do, nothing, no war to fight, crime is up and no jobs for the youths, they sit all day shining their boots . They are like leaches ,get a good salary, free clothes, free food, free transportation, free housing and who pays for that? tax payers--rice farmers, sugar workers, and businesses. So, don't cut the hand that feed you!!!
KP, you raise some good points here.
What is your solution to the failing sugar industry, keep subsiding it and at what cost, when world sugar is so cheap ?
I agree that a lot of Indians might suffer if the subsidy is discontinued..
But how do you see this being resolved ?
Ok, lets get serious, I am no expert, but I grow up with sugar. First, how come every other country is successful at their sugar cane production, except Guyana, both sugar and RICE is like a cow, if you want milk, you have to feed am grass. The land that you plant sugar and rice needs resting,fertilizer and crop rotation. The fructose content has dropped so badly over the years, and yet no one has done anything to improve it's output, the industry needs to be machanize, we still depend too much on manpower.Over the years, Guyana is prune to flood, and what we have is SALT WATER polluting the soil, it takes approx. 5 years to irrigate the soil of the salt water. The flooding affects ALL agriculture, so from the old lady that plants Bora to the Big Sugar Factories must feel the pinch. Remember, Guyana has nothing to fall back on, We know SUGAR, and WE know RICE, lets go back to basic--Fertilize,Rotate and then Cultivate.
RICE DEAD, SUGAR DEAD , BUSINESSES DEAD, Coolie Dead. I think Cain would say ,plant dope.
KP, why should Guyana continue producing sugar at 45 cents per pound, whils't the market price is 13 cents per pound?
Sugar,rice and small businesses, if don't succeed ,who will it impact negatively ? The 51% of population who are Indian will directly or indirectly suffer at their failure. While, money is spent in boosting the army, police and national service who employ predominantly Blacks, and what these fellas do, nothing, no war to fight, crime is up and no jobs for the youths, they sit all day shining their boots . They are like leaches ,get a good salary, free clothes, free food, free transportation, free housing and who pays for that? tax payers--rice farmers, sugar workers, and businesses. So, don't cut the hand that feed you!!!
KP, you raise some good points here.
What is your solution to the failing sugar industry, keep subsiding it and at what cost, when world sugar is so cheap ?
I agree that a lot of Indians might suffer if the subsidy is discontinued..
But how do you see this being resolved ?
Ok, lets get serious, I am no expert, but I grow up with sugar. First, how come every other country is successful at their sugar cane production, except Guyana, both sugar and RICE is like a cow, if you want milk, you have to feed am grass. The land that you plant sugar and rice needs resting,fertilizer and crop rotation. The fructose content has dropped so badly over the years, and yet no one has done anything to improve it's output, the industry needs to be machanize, we still depend too much on manpower.Over the years, Guyana is prune to flood, and what we have is SALT WATER polluting the soil, it takes approx. 5 years to irrigate the soil of the salt water. The flooding affects ALL agriculture, so from the old lady that plants Bora to the Big Sugar Factories must feel the pinch. Remember, Guyana has nothing to fall back on, We know SUGAR, and WE know RICE, lets go back to basic--Fertilize,Rotate and then Cultivate.
To mechanize the sugar industry they will have to change
the dutchman beds if it's not done,and the current layout
have to change lots of punt canals have to be filled,roads
to the back lands will have to upgrade to all weather roads
QUOTE: '“It’s a private arrangement… Farmer-miller-market… It’s not a Government arrangement,” he [Granger] firmly stated.
That's a fact.
Nagamootoo and Ramjattan should fork out the money from their pockets and pay for making empty promises. They foolishly fixed a $9000/bag price without determining whether millers could afford to pay, having regard to their production costs and sales revenue. They must learn a lesson not to make big unrealistic promises to get votes. They have now put the coalition in an embarrassing position. I am being bloody blunt here, and who vex can drink Marvex.
Gilbakka
I agree Moses, Ramjattan and all Guyanese
were fooled by Jagdeo, Ramotar and the PPP
Remember it was Jagdeo & Ramotar
who were Boasting on the PPP Platform
about the lucrative Markets for Guyana Rice
in Venezuela & Panama.
Look what the PPP was telling
the Rice Farmers
https://guyana.crowdstack.io/topic/ri...e-a-market-in-panama
But the truth was
the Rice Industry was Bankrupt
Under the PPP
(1) Venezuela cancelled the Rice Deal
The PPP knew this
but kept it a secret During Election.
(2) There was no Rice deal with Panama...
All the Pictures were Bogus...
look and see for yourself
https://guyana.crowdstack.io/topic/ri...e-a-market-in-panama
(3) The PPP was stealing
money secretly
to fool the rice farmers
Tell Guyanese everything
in the Rice Industry
was Bright and beautiful.
https://guyana.crowdstack.io/topic/an...ll-not-find-anything
(4) Jagdeo & Ramotar were fooling
the Sugar Workers at the same time
on the Political Platform.
All the wanted was their Vote
they truck all the workers to Babu John
but did not tell them
Guysuco was Bankrupt....
and there is no money to pay wages
after the elections.
https://guyana.crowdstack.io/topic/gu...is-recording-profits
(5) Jagdeo did not tell
the sugar workers that he
destroyed the Sugar Industry...
Burnham & Dr Reid produced Sugar
@ 10 US Cents per pound...
Jagdeo & Ramotar produced Sugar
@ 45 US Cents per pound...
(6) Jagdeo & Ramotar did not
tell the PPP Supporters....
how much they thief
Between 1997 -2015 Under them...
the Thiefing, Corruption & Mismanagement
Jagdeo & Ramotar exceed the thiefing
under PNC between 1964-1992
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Gilbakka,
I agree with Ramjattan....
Moses & Granger
Must Build a new Prison
to put away all these
Professional Thieves
Funny Fellas & Crab Louse
who lie about the state
of the Sugar & Rice Industry...
https://guyana.crowdstack.io/topic/af...use-and-funny-fellas
RICE DEAD, SUGAR DEAD , BUSINESSES DEAD, Coolie Dead. I think Cain would say ,plant dope.
KP, why should Guyana continue producing sugar at 45 cents per pound, whils't the market price is 13 cents per pound?
Come in kp what is the solution diversify or continue.
Look, the coalition cannot have their cake and eat it. Prior to the elections, they argued that the problems the sugar industry was experiencing was because of the ineptitude of the directors and management and corruption. Well, they are in government, changed the board and the manager. Supposedly working on the corruption issue. What the heck is the problem now? What, they suddenly wake up?
I am surprised that Granger changed his tune and began supporting sugar. Prior to the election campaign he stated that he would shut down the sugar industry like the rest of the Caribbean, however he changed gears on the campaign trail, now it looks like reality bites.
RICE DEAD, SUGAR DEAD , BUSINESSES DEAD, Coolie Dead. I think Cain would say ,plant dope.
KP, why should Guyana continue producing sugar at 45 cents per pound, whils't the market price is 13 cents per pound?
Sugar,rice and small businesses, if don't succeed ,who will it impact negatively ? The 51% of population who are Indian will directly or indirectly suffer at their failure. While, money is spent in boosting the army, police and national service who employ predominantly Blacks, and what these fellas do, nothing, no war to fight, crime is up and no jobs for the youths, they sit all day shining their boots . They are like leaches ,get a good salary, free clothes, free food, free transportation, free housing and who pays for that? tax payers--rice farmers, sugar workers, and businesses. So, don't cut the hand that feed you!!!
KP, you raise some good points here.
What is your solution to the failing sugar industry, keep subsiding it and at what cost, when world sugar is so cheap ?
I agree that a lot of Indians might suffer if the subsidy is discontinued..
But how do you see this being resolved ?
We need to be data driven here so that better decisions are made regarding the sugar industry? What are the macro costs and benefits, what are the social costs and benefits. It is more than cost versus revenues of the industry in the short term. The sugar industry has become a political football and if we do not really do a good job of understanding the issues, then we will be pawns in someone's else game.
RICE DEAD, SUGAR DEAD , BUSINESSES DEAD, Coolie Dead. I think Cain would say ,plant dope.
KP, why should Guyana continue producing sugar at 45 cents per pound, whils't the market price is 13 cents per pound?
Come in kp what is the solution diversify or continue.
Look, the coalition cannot have their cake and eat it. Prior to the elections, they argued that the problems the sugar industry was experiencing was because of the ineptitude of the directors and management and corruption. Well, they are in government, changed the board and the manager. Supposedly working on the corruption issue. What the heck is the problem now? What, they suddenly wake up?
Maybe, changing boards and managers are not enough to resolve the in- grained problems caused by previous actions/non-actions.
But constant bailout is not the solution.
PNC scumbags wil pay a heavy price at local elections.
RICE DEAD, SUGAR DEAD , BUSINESSES DEAD, Coolie Dead. I think Cain would say ,plant dope.
Guyana is dead under the PNC.
KoKo Beah PNC drives a big stick in the rear of rice farmers:
Yuji......yuh right,
and I agree with Ramjattan....
Moses & Granger
Must Build a new Prison
to put away all these
Professional Thieves
Funny Fellas & Crab Louse
who lie about the state
of the Sugar & Rice Industry...
https://guyana.crowdstack.io/topic/af...use-and-funny-fellas
Look, the coalition cannot have their cake and eat it. Prior to the elections, they argued that the problems the sugar industry was experiencing was because of the ineptitude of the directors and management and corruption.
The Skeldon factory and other incompetency by the PPP ha splunged Guysuco in so much debt that it is now passed the point of return.
The gov't should sell Guysuco as the PPP did to Guymine. What ever happens, happens. We read that Indians are so "resourceful" so let those who make that claim prove it.
Look, the coalition cannot have their cake and eat it. Prior to the elections, they argued that the problems the sugar industry was experiencing was because of the ineptitude of the directors and management and corruption.
The Skeldon factory and other incompetency by the PPP ha splunged Guysuco in so much debt that it is now passed the point of return.
The gov't should sell Guysuco as the PPP did to Guymine. What ever happens, happens. We read that Indians are so "resourceful" so let those who make that claim prove it.
The government must also stop the billions in Electricity subsidy for Linden. I am all for it. Let the PNC start tomorrow.
Look, the coalition cannot have their cake and eat it. Prior to the elections, they argued that the problems the sugar industry was experiencing was because of the ineptitude of the directors and management and corruption.
The Skeldon factory and other incompetency by the PPP ha splunged Guysuco in so much debt that it is now passed the point of return.
The gov't should sell Guysuco as the PPP did to Guymine. What ever happens, happens. We read that Indians are so "resourceful" so let those who make that claim prove it.
The government must also stop the billions in Electricity subsidy for Linden. I am all for it. Let the PNC start tomorrow.
Even a racist like you wil acknowledge that way more was poured into Guysuco subsidies than into electricity for Lindeners, that being a very poor form of compensation for when the PPP dumped the Chinese on them.
So let the Chinese buy sugar and if thousands lose their jobs and end on the breadline, their fates wouldn't be any worse than that which befell the bauxite workers.
Listen, you want to close Guysuco.
Go ahead, let the PNC start tomorrow and please, let us add the Billions in Subsidies for Linden. What is fair is fair.
Listen, you want to close Guysuco.
No just sell it. If the Chinese wish to close it then you could accuse them of ethnic cleansing. You can give Guysuco to the same Chinese who "built" the Skeldon factory.
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