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Django posted:
alena06 posted:

Anyone tried the Ancestry DNA thingie? 😀 My daughter did it and it was right on the money.

Found mines via Immigrants Records from the Guyana Archives,could not figure out the caste,found it today.

Django,

These pictures look like members of the Australian aborigines or the New Zealand Maori people.

Why are they referred to as aboriginal? Is this a European construct like the names they attributed to the "scheduled caste" of Indian.?

Do you know if any of the indentured Indians were referred to as aboriginals in the immigration records in Guyana?

V
VishMahabir posted:
Django posted:
alena06 posted:

Anyone tried the Ancestry DNA thingie? 😀 My daughter did it and it was right on the money.

Found mines via Immigrants Records from the Guyana Archives,could not figure out the caste,found it today.

Django,

These pictures look like members of the Australian aborigines or the New Zealand Maori people.

Why are they referred to as aboriginal? Is this a European construct like the names they attributed to the "scheduled caste" of Indian.?

Do you know if any of the indentured Indians were referred to as aboriginals in the immigration records in Guyana?

On my ancestors Immigrants records,the name listed as Caste is not of a known type,my GGF was born in 1836.

I have been trying to figure this out for a while,i tried google and gave up,today i cracked it.I can declare it,too much haters on this site,so i will refrain from doing so.

Django
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VishMahabir posted:
Django posted:
alena06 posted:

Anyone tried the Ancestry DNA thingie? 😀 My daughter did it and it was right on the money.

Found mines via Immigrants Records from the Guyana Archives,could not figure out the caste,found it today.

Django,

These pictures look like members of the Australian aborigines or the New Zealand Maori people.

Why are they referred to as aboriginal? Is this a European construct like the names they attributed to the "scheduled caste" of Indian.?

Do you know if any of the indentured Indians were referred to as aboriginals in the immigration records in Guyana?

They were self identified on their contract papers hence the numerous balahoo Brahmins. 

FM
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Django posted:
Tola posted:

A teacher friend in India wants to read books about Indian Indenture Labourers to Guyana and other countries.

Could you recommend any, or direction to a website.  Thanks.

I had pointed out the site in India,there are lots of info there.

Thanks Django, I did pass on that information.  But she is now looking for lived experience stories. How did the British treated the Indian Indenture labourers  and why is the country such a disorganized place for the Descendants of Indian Indenture Labourers ?  

Tola
Tola posted:
Django posted:
Tola posted:

A teacher friend in India wants to read books about Indian Indenture Labourers to Guyana and other countries.

Could you recommend any, or direction to a website.  Thanks.

I had pointed out the site in India,there are lots of info there.

Thanks Django, I did pass on that information.  But she is now looking for lived experience stories. How did the British treated the Indian Indenture labourers  and why is the country such a disorganized place for the Descendants of Indian Indenture Labourers ?  

Check out this link:

https://archive.org/stream/hil...ief00scob_0_djvu.txt

FM
Gilbakka posted:
Tola posted:
Django posted:
Tola posted:

A teacher friend in India wants to read books about Indian Indenture Labourers to Guyana and other countries.

Could you recommend any, or direction to a website.  Thanks.

I had pointed out the site in India,there are lots of info there.

Thanks Django, I did pass on that information.  But she is now looking for lived experience stories. How did the British treated the Indian Indenture labourers  and why is the country such a disorganized place for the Descendants of Indian Indenture Labourers ?  

Check out this link:

https://archive.org/stream/hil...ief00scob_0_djvu.txt

Thanks Gilly, this link will assist quite a lot.

She is a university prof and plans to write about the Descendants of Indian indenture Labourers, including Guyana.

It would seem this part of India's  history is not well known in India and an international group is working at  preserving  documents, photographs and artifacts  for Indian museums.

In the 1960s when photographs were taken in Guyana of everyday activities for fun, little did we realize that we were documenting the lifestyle of a people, whose ancestors came from India. Now Indian museums are interested in displaying these photographs, in specific rooms for different countries.   

The Indian  education system is also interested in incorporating this history  in their school curriculum.

Presentations regarding documenting the Descendants of Indian Indenture Labourers will take place in Europe  next month.     

Tola

Quote by Tola:

"In the 1960s when photographs were taken in Guyana of everyday activities for fun, little did we realize that we were documenting the lifestyle of a people, whose ancestors came from India. Now Indian museums are interested in displaying these photographs, in specific rooms for different countries. "

You were recording history.

FM
yuji22 posted:

Quote by Tola:

"In the 1960s when photographs were taken in Guyana of everyday activities for fun, little did we realize that we were documenting the lifestyle of a people, whose ancestors came from India. Now Indian museums are interested in displaying these photographs, in specific rooms for different countries. "

You were recording history.

In may ways these who took pictures were documenting the history of a people, because  that lifestyle  did not exist any  more.   

Tola
Tola posted:
 

Thanks Gilly, this link will assist quite a lot.

She is a university prof and plans to write about the Descendants of Indian indenture Labourers, including Guyana.

It would seem this part of India's  history is not well known in India and an international group is working at  preserving  documents, photographs and artifacts  for Indian museums.

In the 1960s when photographs were taken in Guyana of everyday activities for fun, little did we realize that we were documenting the lifestyle of a people, whose ancestors came from India. Now Indian museums are interested in displaying these photographs, in specific rooms for different countries.   

The Indian  education system is also interested in incorporating this history  in their school curriculum.

Presentations regarding documenting the Descendants of Indian Indenture Labourers will take place in Europe  next month.     

Tols, great work you're doing. Keep it up.

FM

The first batch of Indian immigrants were mostly so-called "hill coolies", ie tribals on the fringe of mainstream society. According to some descriptions, they had no religion --- no Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, Jain or Hindu. But according to Guyanese Dwarka Nath, the first two immigrants who disembarked the ship in Guyana were named Rama & Khan. Which suggests Hindu & Muslim. Perhaps they were selected to step on land first because they were from the small mainstream section?

FM
Tola posted:
yuji22 posted:

Quote by Tola:

"In the 1960s when photographs were taken in Guyana of everyday activities for fun, little did we realize that we were documenting the lifestyle of a people, whose ancestors came from India. Now Indian museums are interested in displaying these photographs, in specific rooms for different countries. "

You were recording history.

In may ways these who took pictures were documenting the history of a people, because  that lifestyle  did not exist any  more.   

The only photo I have of my father's parents is around 1935 on the land they were granted after working 5 years on the nearby estate. Grandpa was tall, slender, fair, elegant; in the pic he's wearing a suit, tie and hat. They were Brahmins in UP and he came to Guyana when he was a teenager; his wife, from Calcutta, was born in the ship while coming over. I'm working on my family tree, it's very exciting, and I'm using Gaiutra Bahadur's well-documented book as a guide to trace my roots. 

FM

@ Gil

Thanks for the info. 

I traced back and visited my ancestors and man, I come from a group of hard core Brahmanas. My ancestors were from what is now called Haryana and they chanted mantras they same unique way that my family does. I even conducted DNA tests to confirm our ancestry. 

This smashed the BS theory that Brahmanas were so called Boat Brahmanas. I do not disagree that it may be true in most cases but I can confirm that I come from a group of Hard Core and very tough Brahmanas.

FM
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skeldon_man posted:
yuji22 posted:

Listen Antie Ronan,

Too bad for you if you can’t trace your ancestry. 

He is from the Mandinka Warrior Tribe, the same place as Kunta Kinte.

That clown wants to rain on other people’s parade. He is envious that Indos are proud of and are tracing back their ancestry. 

Looks like he is stuck hence his anger. 

FM
yuji22 posted:
skeldon_man posted:
yuji22 posted:

Listen Antie Ronan,

Too bad for you if you can’t trace your ancestry. 

He is from the Mandinka Warrior Tribe, the same place as Kunta Kinte.

That clown wants to rain on other people’s parade. He is envious that Indos are proud of and are tracing back their ancestry. 

Looks like he is stuck hence his anger. 

har har

FM
Leonora posted:
Tola posted:
yuji22 posted:

Quote by Tola:

"In the 1960s when photographs were taken in Guyana of everyday activities for fun, little did we realize that we were documenting the lifestyle of a people, whose ancestors came from India. Now Indian museums are interested in displaying these photographs, in specific rooms for different countries. "

You were recording history.

In may ways these who took pictures were documenting the history of a people, because  that lifestyle  did not exist any  more.   

The only photo I have of my father's parents is around 1935 on the land they were granted after working 5 years on the nearby estate. Grandpa was tall, slender, fair, elegant; in the pic he's wearing a suit, tie and hat. They were Brahmins in UP and he came to Guyana when he was a teenager; his wife, from Calcutta, was born in the ship while coming over. I'm working on my family tree, it's very exciting, and I'm using Gaiutra Bahadur's well-documented book as a guide to trace my roots. 

You can do that by getting some documents,a birth certificate of your grandfather,and head to the Guyana Archives.

My next research is finding info on my Grandmother apparently she was born in British Guiana,and Great Grandmother came from India in 1874,I have my grandmother first husband immigrant document,he came from Azamgarh India in 1901.

Django
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Tola recommended that we digitalize and scan our ancestors documents. That is very important. I did that plus I scanned our passports that we came from Guyana with. These will be important documents that future generations will need and cherish.

It is so important that we keep our history and records intact.

I also recommend that you trace back your family origin to India. I cannot describe the excitement of meeting my ancestors family from India. 

FM
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yuji22 posted:

Tola recommended that we digitalize and scan our ancestors documents. That is very important. I did that plus I scanned our passports that we came from Guyana with. These will be important documents that future generations will need and cherish.

It is so important that we keep our history and records intact.

I also recommend that you trace back your family origin to India. I cannot describe the excitement of meeting my ancestors family from India. 

You have your old Guyana passport? I barely got some old photos when I left Guyana.

FM
skeldon_man posted:
yuji22 posted:

Tola recommended that we digitalize and scan our ancestors documents. That is very important. I did that plus I scanned our passports that we came from Guyana with. These will be important documents that future generations will need and cherish.

It is so important that we keep our history and records intact.

I also recommend that you trace back your family origin to India. I cannot describe the excitement of meeting my ancestors family from India. 

You have your old Guyana passport? I barely got some old photos when I left Guyana.

I have mine and my ID card,lost my NIS card.

Django
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skeldon_man posted:
yuji22 posted:

Tola recommended that we digitalize and scan our ancestors documents. That is very important. I did that plus I scanned our passports that we came from Guyana with. These will be important documents that future generations will need and cherish.

It is so important that we keep our history and records intact.

I also recommend that you trace back your family origin to India. I cannot describe the excitement of meeting my ancestors family from India. 

You have your old Guyana passport? I barely got some old photos when I left Guyana.

Skelly I do, it is dated 1978 and never renewed. I also have my ID card. All records have been digitilized for future generations. 

FM

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