PPP get back dem mixed voters and Amerindian votas. PPP look like dem will get de majority in 2020. Bharrat and gang will govern like dem always govern. And den de ackshun will start. All ayoo praising Bharrat political guruness should know de man seize de party and so ayoo gat wan self selection bias. Anybody hammering everyday will win against dat incompetent and visionless lot. Ayoo watch and see de action after 2020 when PPP win. Hey hey hey...
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Who will be the Puppet president for 2020? Hey hey hey.....
"Jagdeo thanked supporters who voted for the 3,000 candidates the party fielded and the many people in APNU strongholds who assured the PPP campaigners that they were going to withhold their votes, and which he claimed they did."
https://www.stabroeknews.com/2...at-local-govt-polls/
This is how the PPP will win, pose with the PNC supporters,who will withhold their votes.Indo Guyanese thinks Afro Guyanese are stupid,dunce, animals,and can't run anything,rude awakening for all of them who thinks such.
Ayuh watch and see ,the Indo savior said Presidential Candidate will be selected before LGE, another LIE told by the PUTINSQUE.
Ayuh gone pun Jagdeo again, yun nah get enough licks, that man deh till in Guyana and he ah put licks pun you. Find a new hobby.
I think it is about time AFC supporters on this forum start to emptying their stomachs about the betrayal they have suffered being part of the governing coalition. This is time for redemption. Don't wait for the last minute to say that never agreed with many of the unpopular policies and moves made by the APNU dominated government headed by David Granger. Doing this can reap great dividends and help save the party from becoming another United Force.
The Namakaram Crabdaag said GNI will be scrapped, Rice farmers will get 600 per Bag, He will ensure transparency, be a check to abuse, Sugar Workers will receive raises( The DUMB Jackass had them fires instead) But I guess when yuh head up Gadaha Kakahole, you think the Gadaha is the greatest. Is it the smell that confuse you or the direct contact with the SHIT????
kp posted:Ayuh gone pun Jagdeo again, yun nah get enough licks, that man deh till in Guyana and he ah put licks pun you. Find a new hobby.
Well who are the front runner for the party ? who you want we to talk about ?
Until now i can't see what licks you and him talking about.
How can you see when your head is stuck
PPP look like they did well...this probably is a good indication for 2020.
However, the PPP has to clean up its act and select a leader who can make the PPP into a more open and democratic party...if they intend to manage the nation's oil economy. They, and everyone else, must work on constitutional reforms.
The only thing that won in this election is voter apathy...Guyanese are not enthusiastic....perhaps a THIRD PARTY might do a better job...even if it means holding the majority party feet to the fire.
The Namakaram Crabdaag HAD a 3rd Party. Can you update us on dat????/!!!!!
Overall the people did not vote for candidates who can or will represent their best interests. The vote was along racial lines. Jagdeo shouda run for the Mayoral position in GT.
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One ting is clear dem badminded PNC cyant win wan eleckshun without AFC. AFC still gat 5 seat in dem. How AFC will play dat cyaptical is still to see. PNC kork duck. But me want see what is dem best response strategy now. Dem gat to play rig which not easy. Dem gat to rig BIG, BIG, if AFC pull out. Dat not easy. Hey hey hey...But dem will most likely play dont give up powah. Hey hey hey hey...Me stocking up on meh nachos and queso foh 2020 and after...hey hey hey...
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Guyanese no longer see participation in politics as relevant to their lives. This is especially for the PNC base and for younger people across the board. Its people like yuji who must scream "ahbe pan tap" who still remain fanatics.
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Labba posted:One ting is clear dem badminded PNC cyant win wan eleckshun without AFC.
If the PNC needs the AFC to win they might as well go sit down in the opposition seats. The AFC has lost their base. They barely cracked 10% of the votes in GT, which used to be an important base for them.
caribny posted:Labba posted:One ting is clear dem badminded PNC cyant win wan eleckshun without AFC.
If the PNC needs the AFC to win they might as well go sit down in the opposition seats. The AFC has lost their base. They barely cracked 10% of the votes in GT, which used to be an important base for them.
How does the PNC plan to win without the AFC come 2020?
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Mitwah posted:caribny posted:Labba posted:One ting is clear dem badminded PNC cyant win wan eleckshun without AFC.
If the PNC needs the AFC to win they might as well go sit down in the opposition seats. The AFC has lost their base. They barely cracked 10% of the votes in GT, which used to be an important base for them.
How does the PNC plan to win without the AFC come 2020?
I know that the AFC has no votes to bring. Where are the AFC votes?
Its about time the AFC learns humility and does the work to get a base of their own instead of adopting this entitled mentality.
caribny posted:Mitwah posted:caribny posted:Labba posted:One ting is clear dem badminded PNC cyant win wan eleckshun without AFC.
If the PNC needs the AFC to win they might as well go sit down in the opposition seats. The AFC has lost their base. They barely cracked 10% of the votes in GT, which used to be an important base for them.
How does the PNC plan to win without the AFC come 2020?
I know that the AFC has no votes to bring. Where are the AFC votes?
Its about time the AFC learns humility and does the work to get a base of their own instead of adopting this entitled mentality.
There is no humility. Dem dead but dem shame to shut dem eye.
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PNC better start giving away free stuff to Indos and mixed races if they want win....otherwise they cak duck
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caribny posted:Labba posted:One ting is clear dem badminded PNC cyant win wan eleckshun without AFC.
If the PNC needs the AFC to win they might as well go sit down in the opposition seats. The AFC has lost their base. They barely cracked 10% of the votes in GT, which used to be an important base for them.
Hey hey hey...suh AFC get ZERO number vote yesterday? Hey hey hey...
Mitwah posted:Who will be the Puppet president for 2020? Hey hey hey.....
One thing we definitely know is that it will not be the puppet, lame duck prime minister we currently have. We will have to await the decision of the PPP central committee to determine who will be the presidential,candidate for the PPP.
Learn from history! Jagdeo was referred to as Janet jaganâs puppet until he reminded her publicly that she was just a private citizen.there is lots of talk here on whether Corbin orcGreen pulls Grangerâs string.
Question - if an Afro Guyanese vote for an AfroGuyanese person or party and an Indo- Guyanese votes for for an Indo-Guyanese person or party, who are we to say that it is not in their interest to do so? Do they have a democratic right to vote for who they wish to represent them?
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Labba posted:caribny posted:Labba posted:One ting is clear dem badminded PNC cyant win wan eleckshun without AFC.
If the PNC needs the AFC to win they might as well go sit down in the opposition seats. The AFC has lost their base. They barely cracked 10% of the votes in GT, which used to be an important base for them.
Hey hey hey...suh AFC get ZERO number vote yesterday? Hey hey hey...
Zero, Nada, Zilch, Nuffing, Nuffing and more ah Nuffing.
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Django posted:"Jagdeo thanked supporters who voted for the 3,000 candidates the party fielded and the many people in APNU strongholds who assured the PPP campaigners that they were going to withhold their votes, and which he claimed they did."
https://www.stabroeknews.com/2...at-local-govt-polls/
This is how the PPP will win, pose with the PNC supporters,who will withhold their votes.Indo Guyanese thinks Afro Guyanese are stupid,dunce, animals,and can't run anything,rude awakening for all of them who thinks such.
Ayuh watch and see ,the Indo savior said Presidential Candidate will be selected before LGE, another LIE told by the PUTINSQUE.
Django posted:"Jagdeo thanked supporters who voted for the 3,000 candidates the party fielded and the many people in APNU strongholds who assured the PPP campaigners that they were going to withhold their votes, and which he claimed they did."
https://www.stabroeknews.com/2...at-local-govt-polls/
This is how the PPP will win, pose with the PNC supporters,who will withhold their votes.Indo Guyanese thinks Afro Guyanese are stupid,dunce, animals,and can't run anything,rude awakening for all of them who thinks such.
Ayuh watch and see ,the Indo savior said Presidential Candidate will be selected before LGE, another LIE told by the PUTINSQUE.
Hey wanna be Negro, what are you doing in a white man country insulting collie. What have you done for blacks with yo instrument skills. Every gad dam day you insult coolie man, enough with you old Rass.
The coolie in Guyana see Jagdeo as their saviour, they donât need you.
Credit must be given to Jagdeo for marshalling his troop to victory which you have a problem with.
Every gad dam day you crying about them bicycle politicians, yo behind know how hard they work for their supporters when you pack trap and run to kiss Uncle Sam behind.
A some good patkay you want from them collie back home.
Zed posted:Mitwah posted:Who will be the Puppet president for 2020? Hey hey hey.....
One thing we definitely know is that it will not be the puppet, lame duck prime minister we currently have. We will have to await the decision of the PPP central committee to determine who will be the presidential,candidate for the PPP.
Learn from history! Jagdeo was referred to as Janet jaganâs puppet until he reminded her publicly that she was just a private citizen.there is lots of talk here on whether Corbin orcGreen pulls Grangerâs string.
Me thinks i saw on MOP Website ,he adviser to Granger.
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Labba posted:PPP get back dem mixed voters and Amerindian votas. PPP look like dem will get de majority in 2020. Bharrat and gang will govern like dem always govern. And den de ackshun will start. All ayoo praising Bharrat political guruness should know de man seize de party and so ayoo gat wan self selection bias. Anybody hammering everyday will win against dat incompetent and visionless lot. Ayoo watch and see de action after 2020 when PPP win. Hey hey hey...
amusing to watch you wishing all that into existence
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Zed posted:.there is lots of talk here on whether Corbin orcGreen pulls Grangerâs string.
Officially Robert Corbin is Senior Political Advisor to the President.
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ronan posted:Labba posted:PPP get back dem mixed voters and Amerindian votas. PPP look like dem will get de majority in 2020. Bharrat and gang will govern like dem always govern. And den de ackshun will start. All ayoo praising Bharrat political guruness should know de man seize de party and so ayoo gat wan self selection bias. Anybody hammering everyday will win against dat incompetent and visionless lot. Ayoo watch and see de action after 2020 when PPP win. Hey hey hey...
amusing to watch you wishing all that into existence
Hey hey hey...watchin all de one lovers melt down and eventual gat to tek powah by force. Hey hey hey...
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Labba posted:ronan posted:Labba posted:PPP get back dem mixed voters and Amerindian votas. PPP look like dem will get de majority in 2020. Bharrat and gang will govern like dem always govern. And den de ackshun will start. All ayoo praising Bharrat political guruness should know de man seize de party and so ayoo gat wan self selection bias. Anybody hammering everyday will win against dat incompetent and visionless lot. Ayoo watch and see de action after 2020 when PPP win. Hey hey hey...
amusing to watch you wishing all that into existence
. . . tek powah by force.
like i said . . .
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Zed posted:Question - if an Afro Guyanese vote for an AfroGuyanese person or party and an Indo- Guyanese votes for for an Indo-Guyanese person or party, who are we to say that it is not in their interest to do so? Do they have a democratic right to vote for who they wish to represent them?
...where does the candidate's accomplishments, academic credentials, integrity and other qualifications fit into this one component hubble telescope yuh building hay?
Gilbakka posted:Zed posted:.there is lots of talk here on whether Corbin orcGreen pulls Grangerâs string.
Officially Robert Corbin is Senior Political Advisor to the President.
And he lives in Guyana and does not know this.
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ronan posted:Labba posted:ronan posted:Labba posted:PPP get back dem mixed voters and Amerindian votas. PPP look like dem will get de majority in 2020. Bharrat and gang will govern like dem always govern. And den de ackshun will start. All ayoo praising Bharrat political guruness should know de man seize de party and so ayoo gat wan self selection bias. Anybody hammering everyday will win against dat incompetent and visionless lot. Ayoo watch and see de action after 2020 when PPP win. Hey hey hey...
amusing to watch you wishing all that into existence
. . . tek powah by force.
like i said . . .
...don't forget the shrill screams a couple weeks ago about the "massive" rigging (shout out to ugli man), widespread violence and other "predictions" hay that was going to take place after LGE. Begging for violence and punishment pon oneself is a sign of a sick mind.
Mitwah posted:Gilbakka posted:Zed posted:.there is lots of talk here on whether Corbin orcGreen pulls Grangerâs string.
Officially Robert Corbin is Senior Political Advisor to the President.
And he lives in Guyana and does not know this.
Are you confirming that everyone living in Political Guyana knows that Corbin pulls Grangers strings? Seeing that you are so smart, does the job of the political advisor entail just advising or pulling the strings for the puppet? Get what I am trying to get you to understand?
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Zed posted:Question - if an Afro Guyanese vote for an AfroGuyanese person or party and an Indo- Guyanese votes for for an Indo-Guyanese person or party, who are we to say that it is not in their interest to do so? Do they have a democratic right to vote for who they wish to represent them?
Dem sure get de right to vote how dem see fit. But is de incentive de race ting create after. Hey hey hey...
Iguana posted:Zed posted:Question - if an Afro Guyanese vote for an AfroGuyanese person or party and an Indo- Guyanese votes for for an Indo-Guyanese person or party, who are we to say that it is not in their interest to do so? Do they have a democratic right to vote for who they wish to represent them?
...where does the candidate's accomplishments, academic credentials, integrity and other qualifications fit into this one component hubble telescope yuh building hay?
Regardless of what value the voter gives to each of the factors in his decision making matrix, the question is still- is it not the voters right to vote for who ever he/she wants to represent him/her?
i often wonder whether voters actually vote on the basis of one criteria as is postulated in criticism of ethnic voting in ethnic divided societies. I wonder why in Guyana people like Balran Singh Rai made no headway against the PPP. ALSO, I wonder looking at the American presidential election, what leadership factors voters actually valued.
Corbin is a has been who was once a Jagdeo stooge. The only strings he could be pulling for Granger is if the President wants him to tie his shoe laces. Heâs given a job as an advisor to compensate for his long service to the party. Harmon wields a lot more power than Corbin and Green.
Labba posted:Zed posted:Question - if an Afro Guyanese vote for an AfroGuyanese person or party and an Indo- Guyanese votes for for an Indo-Guyanese person or party, who are we to say that it is not in their interest to do so? Do they have a democratic right to vote for who they wish to represent them?
Dem sure get de right to vote how dem see fit. But is de incentive de race ting create after. Hey hey hey...
I really thought that we were the generation that was going to change the ethnic divide in this country and am disappointed that it is still as strong today as when I was a young boy.
It is obvious that though the standard of living has improved for many, a small group of both major ethnic groups, and a small segment of the Portuguese Gand now new Chinese enjoy the greatest benefits. Is itvs question of complementarity or hegemony?
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Zed posted:Labba posted:Zed posted:Question - if an Afro Guyanese vote for an AfroGuyanese person or party and an Indo- Guyanese votes for for an Indo-Guyanese person or party, who are we to say that it is not in their interest to do so? Do they have a democratic right to vote for who they wish to represent them?
Dem sure get de right to vote how dem see fit. But is de incentive de race ting create after. Hey hey hey...
I really thought that we were the generation that was going to change the ethnic divide in this country and am disappointed that it is still as strong today as when I was a young boy.
It is obvious that though the standard of living has improved for many, a small group of both major ethnic groups, and a small segment of the Portuguese Gand now new Chinese enjoy the greatest benefits. Is itvs question of complementarity or hegemony?
Living standard improve? Change? Hey hey hey...
Mars posted:Corbin is a has been who was once a Jagdeo stooge. The only strings he could be pulling for Granger is if the President wants him to tie his shoe laces. Heâs given a job as an advisor to compensate for his long service to the party. Harmon wields a lot more power than Corbin and Green.
That Corbin was Jagdeoâs stooge is just your narrative. Prove it.
Granger might have been a life long member of the PNC, but it was Corbin who brought him into the leadership race, promoted him and stood by him Against Greenidge and others. Make no mistake, Corbin was respected within the PNC, except maybe for Greene who always hoped to be leader of the PNC and president.
Labba posted:Zed posted:Labba posted:Zed posted:Question - if an Afro Guyanese vote for an AfroGuyanese person or party and an Indo- Guyanese votes for for an Indo-Guyanese person or party, who are we to say that it is not in their interest to do so? Do they have a democratic right to vote for who they wish to represent them?
Dem sure get de right to vote how dem see fit. But is de incentive de race ting create after. Hey hey hey...
I really thought that we were the generation that was going to change the ethnic divide in this country and am disappointed that it is still as strong today as when I was a young boy.
It is obvious that though the standard of living has improved for many, a small group of both major ethnic groups, and a small segment of the Portuguese Gand now new Chinese enjoy the greatest benefits. Is itvs question of complementarity or hegemony?
Living standard improve? Change? Hey hey hey...
Is it your contention that living standards of the average Guyanese did not improve one iota over the ppp era in government?
Zed posted:Mars posted:Corbin is a has been who was once a Jagdeo stooge. The only strings he could be pulling for Granger is if the President wants him to tie his shoe laces. Heâs given a job as an advisor to compensate for his long service to the party. Harmon wields a lot more power than Corbin and Green.
That Corbin was Jagdeoâs stooge is just your narrative. Prove it.
Is that your retort for every post here? Show proof? Show your proof first that Corbin is pulling Grangerâs strings or hush up.
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It's a sad day when we are still celebrating a hollow PPP victory less than 28% turned out and I would suggest that's mostly from the PNC supporters apathy, and apathy in general the AFC have been naive and foolish, people voted for them as a sign of change and yet they towed the PNC line hook line and sinker the exact opposite of what they should have done now they're finished .
Come election time the two said parties who have left us in a social and economic mess since independence will win . With visionless geriatrics on one side and a man who can't run but thinks he's the king without a crown still pulling the strings it's nothing to celebrate .
There is clear room for a 3rd party to hold the balance but that will not be AFC after this showing but they'll need to get moving and if the PNC has any smarts they'd advise Granger to step down (long term health ) and let Volda run
Volda eh?/ I say Chase Green for President
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Ray posted:PNC better start giving away free stuff to Indos and mixed races if they want win....otherwise they cak duck
Giving away stuff to older Indos is a waste. They aren't going to get their vote.
I suspect that you think that most "mixed" people are obvious douglas. It would shock you that most aren't. Take a look at Raphael Trotman and you will see many of these people. Mark Benschop is another one. These men both operate within Afro Guyanese cultural and social contexts.
The PNC has to mobilize the youth vote without regard to race and to the black (inclusive of mixed identified) voters if they plan to win.
Of course if the PNC can rise about racial patronage so much the better but I think that its now too late for that.
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Zed posted:Question - if an Afro Guyanese vote for an AfroGuyanese person or party and an Indo- Guyanese votes for for an Indo-Guyanese person or party, who are we to say that it is not in their interest to do so? Do they have a democratic right to vote for who they wish to represent them?
They do have a democratic right to do this, but seriously how has this blind ethnic patronage worked out for them?
Do you really think that the PPP and the PNC are interested in more than tokenism, given that entrenched attitudes aren't going to move votes as the distrust is now 4, maybe 5 generations deep?
The AFC had promise when they came in the scene in 2005 but they proved to be ineffective and were never really able to develop their own base. They remained a protest vote.
In 2006 GT and New Amsterdam middle class blacks and mixed people voted for them when they were frustrated with Corbin. In 2011 they got a Berbice vote as Nagamootoo brought in some PPP supporters, together with some of their 2006 supporters. In 2015 they got a largely cross ethnic urban base of people who naively thought that the days of ethnic patronage were over.
AFC Indos in Berbice ran back to the PPP in 2015 and its clear that AFC Indos in GT just ran back in this past election as the AFC exposed its weakness. I am not sure where the urban middle class blacks/mixed who supported the AFC in times past have gone to.
It will be interesting to get an age demographic as to who voted. I bet its the hard core middle aged and elderly loyalists on both sides.
Mars posted:Zed posted:Mars posted:Corbin is a has been who was once a Jagdeo stooge. The only strings he could be pulling for Granger is if the President wants him to tie his shoe laces. Heâs given a job as an advisor to compensate for his long service to the party. Harmon wields a lot more power than Corbin and Green.
That Corbin was Jagdeoâs stooge is just your narrative. Prove it.
Is that your retort for every post here? Show proof? Show your proof first that Corbin is pulling Grangerâs strings or hush up.
Release reread and UNDERSTAND my original post.
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Mitwah posted:Overall the people did not vote for candidates who can or will represent their best interests. The vote was along racial lines. Jagdeo shouda run for the Mayoral position in GT.
He would never be that stupid. Losing to some APNU nonentity (the current mayor) isn't to his liking. The PPP got only 25% of the GT vote, this they try to hide with their fake news screams. Most of the councilors are APNU and they would sooner vote for a dog than for Jagdeo.
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Dave posted:The coolie in Guyana see Jagdeo as their saviour, they donât need you.
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Even if the PPP wins in 2020 (quite likely given that PNC supporters are even angrier with Granger than they were with Corbin) with Indians now falling to under 40% of the adult population how will they govern Guyana if others feel excluded? And increasingly these "restless" will be outside of the PNC control.
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Zed posted:Mars posted:Corbin is a has been who was once a Jagdeo stooge. The only strings he could be pulling for Granger is if the President wants him to tie his shoe laces. Heâs given a job as an advisor to compensate for his long service to the party. Harmon wields a lot more power than Corbin and Green.
That Corbin was Jagdeoâs stooge is just your narrative. Prove it.
When it appeared as if elements of the PNC wanted to dump Corbin Jagdeo began to wail that they shouldn't.
Now why would Jagdeo care about Corbin remaining in charge of the PNC unless he felt that he had some control over him? The narrative of Corbin being Jagdeo's stooge explains the poor performance of the PNC in 2006 when many grass roots blacks stayed home and the more elite jumped to the AFC.
Unless the PNC does something different I expect 2020 to be a repeat performance. It will be interesting to see how the PNC elites behave if they fear being reduced to powerless and impoverished peons as they were during the PPP rule. This after tasting the largesse that comes with power.
Mo Fiah Slo Fiah if PPP wins, right?? Hard core deh right here not the older Guyanese!!!!
The election done the results are in? The people in Guyana made their choice you in NA move on with your boring life stop looking for excitement on the poor souls in Guyana. Get a life.
Zed posted:Mars posted:Zed posted:Mars posted:Corbin is a has been who was once a Jagdeo stooge. The only strings he could be pulling for Granger is if the President wants him to tie his shoe laces. Heâs given a job as an advisor to compensate for his long service to the party. Harmon wields a lot more power than Corbin and Green.
That Corbin was Jagdeoâs stooge is just your narrative. Prove it.
Is that your retort for every post here? Show proof? Show your proof first that Corbin is pulling Grangerâs strings or hush up.
Release reread and UNDERSTAND my original post.
Apparently, you think that anyone who has opinions contrary to yours, should âshow proofâ to support those opinions. You always require proof or evidence. Well, letâs see if you can live up to the standards that you demand of others or youâre just another hypocrite blowing hot air.
Show proof that Granger is Corbinâs puppet as you stated previously.
A small elite has been the main beneficiaries of the ethnic voting under both the PNC and POP. The racial divide has been used to bring the masses into the scene, but they generally are window dressing.
from what I hear here, it seems as if the AFC cannot redeem themselves. Very few now trust any attempt at a third alternative to the two major parties.
The PPP should be worried because of the low turnout, they have been stressing the importance of the LGE to their supporters. But they have not turned out in huge numbers. Many PNC supporters seem disenchanted with the broken promises of the coalition and have decided to stay home instead if voting aagainst the PNC. Interesting time ahead, we will get a clearer picture as time goes by.
Mars posted:Zed posted:Mars posted:Zed posted:Mars posted:Corbin is a has been who was once a Jagdeo stooge. The only strings he could be pulling for Granger is if the President wants him to tie his shoe laces. Heâs given a job as an advisor to compensate for his long service to the party. Harmon wields a lot more power than Corbin and Green.
That Corbin was Jagdeoâs stooge is just your narrative. Prove it.
Is that your retort for every post here? Show proof? Show your proof first that Corbin is pulling Grangerâs strings or hush up.
Release reread and UNDERSTAND my original post.
Apparently, you think that anyone who has opinions contrary to yours, should âshow proofâ to support those opinions. You always require proof or evidence. Well, letâs see if you can live up to the standards that you demand of others or youâre just another hypocrite blowing hot air.
Show proof that Granger is Corbinâs puppet as you stated previously.
Please reread and UNDERsTAND my original comment!!
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Zed posted:Interesting time ahead, we will get a clearer picture as time goes by.
A lot will depend on how the PNC responds to being snubbed by its base. Losing to the PPP in the Buxton/Foulis area should be a warning as to what happens when its base stays home. I am not sure what the ethnic composition of this NDC is. If its more than just Buxton then there may be more Indians than people might think.
Zed posted:Please reread and UNDERsTAND my original comment!!
I understand exactly what you said.
You demanded proof and evidence from posters here many times. The one time that you're asked to live up to the demands you made of others, you can't even provide a smidgen of proof. Reeks of hypocrisy to me.
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caribny posted:.Even if the PPP wins in 2020 (quite likely given that PNC supporters are even angrier with Granger than they were with Corbin) with Indians now falling to under 40% of the adult population how will they govern Guyana if others feel excluded? And increasingly these "restless" will be outside of the PNC control.
simply not true . . . about Granger/Corbin that is
further . . . your last sentence feeds into recent PPP ahistoricism of a banal but particularly malignant type
not sure what these kinds of âthreatsâ are supposed to achieve
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ronan posted:caribny posted:Dave posted:The coolie in Guyana see Jagdeo as their saviour, they donât need you.
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Even if the PPP wins in 2020 (quite likely given that PNC supporters are even angrier with Granger than they were with Corbin) with Indians now falling to under 40% of the adult population how will they govern Guyana if others feel excluded? And increasingly these "restless" will be outside of the PNC control.
simply not true . . . about Corbin that is
further . . . your last sentence is feeding recent PPP ahistoricism of a banal and malignant type
not sure what these kinds of âthreatsâ are supposed to achieve
It is a known fact that if a restive population doesn't feel represented by the system then other methods are available. The election of Trump is an example. He has hijacked the GOP and created a major problem globally.
So maybe some Guyanese rabble rouser might stir up the disaffected as Trump did in the USA, Bolsonaro in Brazil and Le Pen almost did in France. I don't know that anyone wants this. Fed up with the PNC and hostile to the PPP who knows what might happen. I do know that a large and alienated segment of the population bodes ill for any society.
The disaffection of the PNC base with Corbin is a fact and the evidence is its dismal performance in 2006. The results are there for you to see. Compare the PNC performance in 2001, 2006 and 2011. It is quite clear that something bad for the PNC occurred in 2006.
Also compare voter turnout in Region 10 in 2001, 2006 and 2010. %Region 10 is the most thoroughly PNC dominated area so offers a clearer perspective of how the PNC grass roots feel about the party.
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caribny posted:ronan posted:caribny posted:Dave posted:The coolie in Guyana see Jagdeo as their saviour, they donât need you.
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Even if the PPP wins in 2020 (quite likely given that PNC supporters are even angrier with Granger than they were with Corbin) with Indians now falling to under 40% of the adult population how will they govern Guyana if others feel excluded? And increasingly these "restless" will be outside of the PNC control.
simply not true . . . about Corbin that is
further . . . your last sentence is feeding recent PPP ahistoricism of a banal and malignant type
not sure what these kinds of âthreatsâ are supposed to achieve
It is a known fact that if a restive population doesn't feel represented by the system then other methods are available. The election of Trump is an example. He has hijacked the GOP and created a major problem globally.
So maybe some Guyanese rabble rouser might stir up the disaffected as Trump did in the USA, Bolsonaro in Brazil and Le Pen almost did in France. I don't know that anyone wants this. Fed up with the PNC and hostile to the PPP who knows what might happen. I do know that a large and alienated segment of the population bodes ill for any society.
The disaffection of the PNC base with Corbin is a fact and the evidence is its dismal performance in 2006. The results are there for you to see. Compare the PNC performance in 2001, 2006 and 2011. It is quite clear that something bad for the PNC occurred in 2006.
Also compare voter turnout in Region 10 in 2001, 2006 and 2010. %Region 10 is the most thoroughly PNC dominated area so offers a clearer perspective of how the PNC grass roots feel about the party.
2 things:
my reference to Corbin points to the inauthenticity of your comparison to Granger . . . so you tilt at nothing
the rest of your âresponseâ is basically a bunch of random non-sequiturs
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ronan posted:.2 things:
my reference to Corbin points to the inauthenticity of your comparison to Granger . . . so you tilt at nothing
the rest of your âresponseâ is basically a bunch of random non-sequiturs
I should think that the PPP winning Foulis-Buxton suggests that something is amiss within the PNC base. They don't seem enthused with Granger, so many stayed home, allowing Jagdeo to grab some seats in that NDC.
Regardless as to what you might think of Granger it is clear that much of the PNC base don't think much of him.
As to the rest that you dismiss. Yes in 2016 I warned people of the possibility of a Trump victory, given the alienation of both the white and the black working class, especially in the Midwest. Well Trump grabbed some white working class who voted for Obama in prior elections (so clearly not racists) and many of the black working class stayed home. His win in Wisconsin and Michigan can be explained by voter collapse in Milwaukee and Detroit.
Maybe you think that Trump's win was an accident. No it was the result of restive people tired of the usual parties, so they selected an alternate. A rabble rouser who fed on their emotional vulnerabilities. Do not think that this scenario isn't possible in Guyana as I would urge you to look over the border at Brazil where similar problems exist. Crime, corruption, venal political elites and a very alienated population.
But maybe you like Trump and Bolsonaro so don't think that their victories are a tragic indication of the sickness of the political systems in both countries, and the degree that a sizeable part of the electorate were so alienated that they fell for destructive rabble rousers.
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caribny posted:ronan posted:.2 things:
my reference to Corbin points to the inauthenticity of your comparison to Granger . . . so you tilt at nothing
the rest of your âresponseâ is basically a bunch of random non-sequiturs
I should think that the PPP winning Foulis-Buxton suggests that something is amiss within the PNC base. They don't seem enthused with Granger, so many stayed home, allowing Jagdeo to grab some seats in that NDC.
Regardless as to what you might think of Granger it is clear that much of the PNC base don't think much of him.
As to the rest that you dismiss. Yes in 2016 I warned people of the possibility of a Trump victory, given the alienation of both the white and the black working class, especially in the Midwest. Well Trump grabbed some white working class who voted for Obama in prior elections (so clearly not racists) and many of the black working class stayed home. His win in Wisconsin and Michigan can be explained by voter collapse in Milwaukee and Detroit.
Maybe you think that Trump's win was an accident. No it was the result of restive people tired of the usual parties, so they selected an alternate. A rabble rouser who fed on their emotional vulnerabilities. Do not think that this scenario isn't possible in Guyana as I would urge you to look over the border at Brazil where similar problems exist. Crime, corruption, venal political elites and a very alienated population.
But maybe you like Trump and Bolsonaro so don't think that their victories are a tragic indication of the sickness of the political systems in both countries, and the degree that a sizeable part of the electorate were so alienated that they fell for destructive rabble rousers.
your rambling all over the place about Trump and Bolsonaro does you no credit
and stop trying to peddle the crap that i am some kind of Granger fanboy
for now, it suffices to say that your predictions of Guyana Elections 2015 were waaay WRONG! . . . so much for your attempt to rewrite history
smh
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ronan posted:your rambling all over the place about Trump and Bolsonaro does you no credit
D2 said the same when I warned him that a Midwest surprise might occur.
You are entitled to your opinions and can take your time to explain why the PPP won Foulis-Buxton NDC.
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ronan posted:for now, it suffices to say that your predictions of Guyana Elections 2015 were waaay WRONG!
stop trying to rewrite history
And my predictions that Nagamootoo and Ramjattan would be sidelined by Granger and Trotman? Hmmm. It happened soon after I forecasted it and I didn't have anything to do with that.
And now we see the consequences of this.
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caribny posted:ronan posted:your rambling all over the place about Trump and Bolsonaro does you no credit
D2 said the same when I warned him that a Midwest surprise might occur.
You are entitled to your opinions and can take your time to explain why the PPP won Foulis-Buxton NDC.
i am NOT the one having a discussion with you about Trump and Bolsonaro
focus banna
i make it a point to say little to nothing here about politics outside of Guyana because there is precious little âpoliticsâ on GNI . . . itâs mostly race, racism and battyshaking
so now, Foulis-Buxton NDC was won by the PPP . . . what on earth does that have to do with your irresponsible and reality-challenged polemic?
smh
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ronan posted:i am NOT the one having a discussion with you about Trump and Bolsonaro
The notion of a Buxton run by the PPP is a PNC nightmare and you know this.
Now why did that happen? Answers not that different from why Trump and Bolsonaro won.
But please proceed by thinking that launching personal attacks on me diverts from these realities. My skin is quite thick having been subjected to some of the worse insults since coming to GNI. Sometimes under attack from the entire board.
So redirect your response to PPP Buxton and what that says about Granger and the PNC.
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caribny posted:ronan posted:i am NOT the one having a discussion with you about Trump and Bolsonaro
The notion of a Buxton run by the PPP is a PNC nightmare and you know this.
Now why did that happen? Answers not that different from why Trump and Bolsonaro won.
But please proceed by thinking that launching personal attacks on me diverts from these realities. My skin is quite thick having been subjected to some of the worse insults since coming to GNI. Sometimes under attack from the entire board.
So redirect your response to PPP Buxton and what that says about Granger and the PNC.
first . . . âBuxtonâ will not be ârun by the PPPâ
that the NDC was narrowly lost by APNU is political malpractice by PNC, yes
but i fail to see what exactly is this ânightmareâ you yammering about . . . drama queen much?
and please point to the âpersonal attacksâ i âlaunchedâ on you (heretofore)
you are a LIAR sir
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ronan posted:first . . . âBuxtonâ will not be ârun by the PPPâ
OK so the PPP will win in 2020 because if they get more votes in that area than did the PNC where will the PNC find support? Rose Hall!
But you can ignore the implications of this.
Mars posted:Zed posted:Please reread and UNDERsTAND my original comment!!
I understand exactly what you said.
You demanded proof and evidence from posters here many times. The one time that you're asked to live up to the demands you made of others, you can't even provide a smidgen of proof. Reeks of hypocrisy to me.
Please reread and UNDERSTAND my original comment!!if you need help. Please let me know which part you do not understand!
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caribny posted:ronan posted:first . . . âBuxtonâ will not be ârun by the PPPâ
OK so the PPP will win in 2020 because if they get more votes in that area than did the PNC where will the PNC find support? Rose Hall!
But you can ignore the implications of this.
like i said. . . . drama queen
please revisit your 2015 âpredictionsâ then tek a seat
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ronan posted:like i said. . . . drama queen
please revisit your 2015 âpredictionsâ then tek a seat
In 2015 there was a belief that the AFC had a support base, that when added to that of the PNC, allowed the coalition to beat the PPP.
Now it is seen that the AFC has no base. Please be the only person on this planet who argues that they still do.
I do remember D2 arguing with me even on election day 2016 and we all know what happened that night when Trump won.
I don't join sides so I will not blindly support those on a sinking ship. The PNC is in serious trouble and the AFC cannot help them in 2020. In the eyes of Guyanese the PNC is as much the Coalition gov't as it is APNU and the AFC have now been reduced to becoming the WPA.
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caribny posted:ronan posted:like i said. . . . drama queen
please revisit your 2015 âpredictionsâ then tek a seat
In 2015 there was a belief that the AFC had a support base, that when added to that of the PNC, allowed the coalition to beat the PPP.
Now it is seen that the AFC has no base. Please be the only person on this planet who argues that they still do.
I do remember D2 arguing with me even on election day 2016 and we all know what happened that night when Trump won.
I don't join sides so I will not blindly support those on a sinking ship. The PNC is in serious trouble and the AFC cannot help them in 2020. In the eyes of Guyanese the PNC is as much the Coalition gov't as it is APNU and the AFC have now been reduced to becoming the WPA.
the coalition won in spite of wannabe Cassandras like you in 2015
remember?
thatâs what i am talking about
Zed posted:Mars posted:Zed posted:Please reread and UNDERsTAND my original comment!!
I understand exactly what you said.
You demanded proof and evidence from posters here many times. The one time that you're asked to live up to the demands you made of others, you can't even provide a smidgen of proof. Reeks of hypocrisy to me.
Please reread and UNDERSTAND my original comment!!if you need help. Please let me know which part you do not understand!
Come on Zed...prove it.
Like I will tell you what I have told Mars, please read and understand what I have posted in my original post.
cain posted:Come on Zed...prove it.
I am still waiting for him to prove his definitive statement that Corbin was Jagdeoâs stooge. He is trying to divert from this request when I made no definitive statement. But only noted what was being said around in Guyana,
Zed posted:cain posted:Come on Zed...prove it.
I am still waiting for him to prove his definitive statement that Corbin was Jagdeoâs stooge. He is trying to divert from this request when I made no definitive statement. But only noted what was being said around in Guyana,
What I said was also an opinion being shared around Guyana, Knucklehead. Using your own standards, show us the proof that Granger is Corbinâs stooge. Put up or shut up.
Zed posted:Interesting time ahead, we will get a clearer picture as time goes by.
Thank You, Captain Obvious. Like you trying to tek away D_G wuk now.
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Dougla_80 posted:It's a sad day when we are still celebrating a hollow PPP victory less than 28% turned out and I would suggest that's mostly from the PNC supporters apathy, and apathy in general the AFC have been naive and foolish, people voted for them as a sign of change and yet they towed the PNC line hook line and sinker the exact opposite of what they should have done now they're finished .
Come election time the two said parties who have left us in a social and economic mess since independence will win . With visionless geriatrics on one side and a man who can't run but thinks he's the king without a crown still pulling the strings it's nothing to celebrate .
There is clear room for a 3rd party to hold the balance but that will not be AFC after this showing but they'll need to get moving and if the PNC has any smarts they'd advise Granger to step down (long term health ) and let Volda run
Itâs a feel good factor. Everyone seemed downtrodden, bridge get tek way, sheer shyte. Then came LGE!! PPP even beat dem rass in freedom fighterville, Buxton. Even Caribj celebrating wid abie. Crystal for glass beads!!
Now abie pon tapp again!!
Baseman posted:Then came LGE!! PPP even beat dem rass in freedom fighterville, Buxton.
Don't run with the lie, the PPP didn't get no vote from Buxton.
See attachment of Buxton/Foulis NDC.
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Django posted:Baseman posted:Then came LGE!! PPP even beat dem rass in freedom fighterville, Buxton.
Don't run with the lie, the PPP didn't get no vote from Buxton.
See attachment of Buxton/Foulis NDC.
LOL!! are you fo real. Stop live in denial Django.
This shock is too much for you.. eh.
Dave posted:Django posted:Baseman posted:Then came LGE!! PPP even beat dem rass in freedom fighterville, Buxton.
Don't run with the lie, the PPP didn't get no vote from Buxton.
See attachment of Buxton/Foulis NDC.
LOL!! are you fo real. Stop live in denial Django.
This shock is too much for you.. eh.
Dude where is the shock ? what's the ethnic population density of the NDC ? what's the voters turn out ?
Mars posted:Zed posted:cain posted:Come on Zed...prove it.
I am still waiting for him to prove his definitive statement that Corbin was Jagdeoâs stooge. He is trying to divert from this request when I made no definitive statement. But only noted what was being said around in Guyana,
What I said was also an opinion being shared around Guyana, Knucklehead. Using your own standards, show us the proof that Granger is Corbinâs stooge. Put up or shut up.
I thought you were a smart man, but it is obvious I need to revise that opinion. First, you still need to reread and understand what I wrote, second, you made a definitive statement. Unlike me, you did not state that it was being said around here you said it like it was gospel! Trying to get out out of it now? Ok. I will give you a pass!
Mars posted:Zed posted:Interesting time ahead, we will get a clearer picture as time goes by.
Thank You, Captain Obvious. Like you trying to tek away D_G wuk now.
Was this the only thing I wrote in my post? But you still smarting from your failure to prove that Corbin was Jagdeoâs puppet.
Zed posted:Mars posted:Zed posted:cain posted:Come on Zed...prove it.
I am still waiting for him to prove his definitive statement that Corbin was Jagdeoâs stooge. He is trying to divert from this request when I made no definitive statement. But only noted what was being said around in Guyana,
What I said was also an opinion being shared around Guyana, Knucklehead. Using your own standards, show us the proof that Granger is Corbinâs stooge. Put up or shut up.
I thought you were a smart man, but it is obvious I need to revise that opinion. First, you still need to reread and understand what I wrote, second, you made a definitive statement. Unlike me, you did not state that it was being said around here you said it like it was gospel! Trying to get out out of it now? Ok. I will give you a pass!
Do I really have to begin every sentence by stating "It is said around here"? What are we, going back to kindergarten now? I can extract every definitive statement that you make and demand proof but that would be childish. But if you want to play that game, practice what you preach and show us the evidence.
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Django posted:Dave posted:Django posted:Baseman posted:Then came LGE!! PPP even beat dem rass in freedom fighterville, Buxton.
Don't run with the lie, the PPP didn't get no vote from Buxton.
See attachment of Buxton/Foulis NDC.
LOL!! are you fo real. Stop live in denial Django.
This shock is too much for you.. eh.
Dude where is the shock ? what's the ethnic population density of the NDC ? what's the voters turn out ?
Ethnic population density â .. ask GECOM.
Foulis/ Buxton .. Bachelor Adventure, Paradise and Melanie Damishana.. predominately Afro is just 3 village that comes under this NDC.
You are the only one questioning this win ..WHY
its a good sign if Guyanese looks beyond race, itâs time arenât you happy.
1.APNU did not issue a statement.
2. The main stream media broadcast and print PPP win Buxton.
Now donât loss sleep over this!! Guyanese electorate make their choice. Letâs hope the Regional Office #4 continue to spend in this neighbourhood.
Zed posted:Mars posted:Zed posted:Interesting time ahead, we will get a clearer picture as time goes by.
Thank You, Captain Obvious. Like you trying to tek away D_G wuk now.
Was this the only thing I wrote in my post? But you still smarting from your failure to prove that Corbin was Jagdeoâs puppet.
Show proof that there are interesting times ahead and the picture will get clearer as time goes by.
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Hey Django, can you show proof how they vote by ethnicity ð
Dave posted:Hey Django, can you show proof how they vote by ethnicity ð
That's too deep for you to comprehend, statsistics can give results.
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Dave posted:Hey Django, can you show proof how they vote by ethnicity ð
Dave you fish up DJ. I threw a big parry for the AFC loss, still celebrating.
The AFC was hiding under Grangers skirt. He was very generous and kind to them. Now that they have proven that they are worthless, Congress Place will be forced to get out the knives and forks.
The PNC has to question themselves as to the lack of turnout by their support base.
So far only Carib G is making sense here. The rest of the GNI PNC clan is just making noise. Afro Guyanese just do not turn out to vote when they are angry at their party and right now they are angry and dissatisfied with PNC. It is for the PNC to deal with a serious problem.
Hey Dave, can you show proof that the vote was not by ethnicity, especially the Foulis/ Buxton poll?
yuji22 posted:Dave posted:Hey Django, can you show proof how they vote by ethnicity ð
Dave you fish up DJ.
Where is the fishup ? follow my discussion with him.
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I Django posted:Dave posted:Hey Django, can you show proof how they vote by ethnicity ð
That's too deep for you to comprehend, statsistics can give results.
Dumb answer.
When I asked about proof, I was trying to be funny, (seeing Zed and Mars debating about proof )
anyhow, put all those screws in place, service calls are expensive lol. Have a good day bro:
yuji22 posted:Dave posted:Hey Django, can you show proof how they vote by ethnicity ð
Dave you fish up DJ.
You are an idiot.
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Hey DJ,
You still with your Mad Man political discourse ?
You were beating your chest and proclaiming this the AFC was a threat to PPP and PNC. The reality is the the AFC is a danger to themselves and society.
yuji22 posted:Hey DJ,
You still with your Mad Man political discourse ?
You were beating your chest and proclaiming this the AFC was a threat to PPP and PNC. The reality is the the AFC is a danger to themselves and society.
Re-read the tripe you writes, looks the same of few posters on GNI.
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Django posted:Baseman posted:Then came LGE!! PPP even beat dem rass in freedom fighterville, Buxton.
Don't run with the lie, the PPP didn't get no vote from Buxton.
See attachment of Buxton/Foulis NDC.
Ok. Me tek Bibi word for it. She started reporting at 3am me thinks. And me know she gah good sources!!
Django posted:yuji22 posted:Hey DJ,
You still with your Mad Man political discourse ?
You were beating your chest and proclaiming this the AFC was a threat to PPP and PNC. The reality is the the AFC is a danger to themselves and society.
Re-read the tripe you writes, looks the same of few posters on GNI.
I don't think you need to respond to his idiotic posts. He is DHA deficient from his birth.
Mitwah posted:yuji22 posted:Dave posted:Hey Django, can you show proof how they vote by ethnicity ð
Dave you fish up DJ.
You are an idiot.
Can't you express yourself without calling people ass and idiot, you sound just as bad.
kp posted:Mitwah posted:yuji22 posted:Dave posted:Hey Django, can you show proof how they vote by ethnicity ð
Dave you fish up DJ.
You are an idiot.
Can't you express yourself without calling people ass and idiot, you sound just as bad.
Do you agree with his post?
Mitwah posted:kp posted:Mitwah posted:yuji22 posted:Dave posted:Hey Django, can you show proof how they vote by ethnicity ð
Dave you fish up DJ.
You are an idiot.
Can't you express yourself without calling people ass and idiot, you sound just as bad.
Do you agree with his post?
You are only giving credit to his post when you reply and a negative reply makes you look bad/ stupid _____.
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Mits, give credit to KP, he has a point!!
When you respond to every shitty post, you give the poster the attention not deserved!!
Django need to learn that too!!
Baseman posted:Mits, give credit to KP, he has a point!!
When you respond to every shitty post, you give the poster the attention not deserved!!
Django need to learn that too!!
Thanks KP and Baseman. Noted.
Mars posted:Zed posted:Mars posted:Zed posted:Interesting time ahead, we will get a clearer picture as time goes by.
Thank You, Captain Obvious. Like you trying to tek away D_G wuk now.
Was this the only thing I wrote in my post? But you still smarting from your failure to prove that Corbin was Jagdeoâs puppet.
Show proof that there are interesting times ahead and the picture will get clearer as time goes by.
This is getting hilarious!
1, the LGE election results showed that the AFC has little support in the PPP areas. What strength they have exists in GT as an alternative to the PNC. This das consequence for the. When the Cummingsburg Accord is renogiated in terms of the number of seats and ministerial they will be allocated. That is if the APNU think that the AFC will be a factor in the APNU returning to power. This is interesting to me as a political spectator and as a voter in the Guyana election and the picture in terms of whether there will be a coalition with the AFC and APNU will become clearer over time.
2. As the official LGE results for each polling station is made official, then we can make a Better determination of whether the approx 45000 votes that the PPP lead the coalition by is a result of APNU supporters staying home, a surge in PPP support or a combination of both. With the low turnout generally, over time with results from each polling station, we might then determine some possible scenarios for the 2020 elections.
imcan go on, and write a book about this I just want to make my point!
Zed posted:Mars posted:Zed posted:Mars posted:Zed posted:Interesting time ahead, we will get a clearer picture as time goes by.
Thank You, Captain Obvious. Like you trying to tek away D_G wuk now.
Was this the only thing I wrote in my post? But you still smarting from your failure to prove that Corbin was Jagdeoâs puppet.
Show proof that there are interesting times ahead and the picture will get clearer as time goes by.
This is getting hilarious!
1, the LGE election results showed that the AFC has little support in the PPP areas. What strength they have exists in GT as an alternative to the PNC. This das consequence for the. When the Cummingsburg Accord is renogiated in terms of the number of seats and ministerial they will be allocated. That is if the APNU think that the AFC will be a factor in the APNU returning to power. This is interesting to me as a political spectator and as a voter in the Guyana election and the picture in terms of whether there will be a coalition with the AFC and APNU will become clearer over time.
2. As the official LGE results for each polling station is made official, then we can make a Better determination of whether the approx 45000 votes that the PPP lead the coalition by is a result of APNU supporters staying home, a surge in PPP support or a combination of both. With the low turnout generally, over time with results from each polling station, we might then determine some possible scenarios for the 2020 elections.
imcan go on, and write a book about this I just want to make my point!
This is no proof of anything. It's just your opinion. I don't see anything interesting about it and the picture is not clearer to me and a few other people. You did state that we will get a clearer picture, no?
Show me the evidence!
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ronan posted:caribny posted:ronan posted:like i said. . . . drama queen
please revisit your 2015 âpredictionsâ then tek a seat
In 2015 there was a belief that the AFC had a support base, that when added to that of the PNC, allowed the coalition to beat the PPP.
Now it is seen that the AFC has no base. Please be the only person on this planet who argues that they still do.
I do remember D2 arguing with me even on election day 2016 and we all know what happened that night when Trump won.
I don't join sides so I will not blindly support those on a sinking ship. The PNC is in serious trouble and the AFC cannot help them in 2020. In the eyes of Guyanese the PNC is as much the Coalition gov't as it is APNU and the AFC have now been reduced to becoming the WPA.
the coalition won in spite of wannabe Cassandras like you in 2015
remember?
thatâs what i am talking about
Did I say that they would lose. I pointed out certain risks. Lucky for them there was record voting in PNC strongholds that offset the loss of the Nagamootoo Berbice vote back to the PPP.
And now the PPP has more councilors in the Buxton Foulis NDC. I note that you refuse to discuss this fact. In 2016 there was an almost 50% turnout in the LGE in GT. Now it is 28%.
But dont worry Jagdeo is happy with your attitude of complacency because there is NOT going to be a strong PNC turnout in 2020 unless the PNC does something really good, or the PPP does something really racially incentive, and I suspect that they are too smart to do so this time now that they fear fewer threats to their Indian base.
http://guyanachronicle.com/201...-did-not-lose-buxton
APNU did not lose Buxton
By Staff Reporter -
A PARTNERSHIP for National Unity (APNU) has cleared the air regarding its support in Buxton, clarifying that it did not lose the constituency of the East Coast Demerara community.
âAPNU would like to correct the erroneous reporting in some sections of the media stating that the PPP has won Buxton. APNU would like to inform our supporters and all Guyanese that in Constituency 2 â Buxton-Friendship, which incorporates the village of Buxton, the results were as follows:
Constituency/First Past The Post:
APNU â 1,336
AFC â 103
PPP â Nil
Proportional Representation â PR:
APNU â 825
AFC â 68
PPP â 34
https://www.kaieteurnewsonline...ide-he-buxton-shame/
Dem boys seh âĶJagdeo tell lie fuh hide he Buxton shame
Nov 15, 2018
People wake up yesterday morning to see a headline which seh de PNC lose in Buxton. Dem wasnât worried about de low voter turnout, dem wasnât worried about Nagamootoo losing in Whim but dem was worried about de headline.
De Buxtonians was more than mad. Dem seh how de newspaper mek dem look like if dem is people who love Jagdeo.
But is Jagdeo who lie in de first place. He know he party win de NDC which include Buxton but he decide to exaggerate to mek he followers feel nice.
When de confusion die down and de dust settle, one man tell de newspaper dat Jagdeo good at misleading people and he like lie. Dem decide to publish de statement of poll.
Dat is when dem boys see wha Jagdeo try to hide. He didnât get a single vote in Buxton. To de village people was like if he didnât exist.
Dem boys shame but then again dat is not de only time he mek dem feel shame. De firemen who follow in he footstep and thief anything dat ainât bolt down on the plane mek de whole of Guyana feel shame.
When dem been in de lockups everybody was happy because de only thing dem could thief in de lockups was de bars.
Bright and early Monday morning, de police decide to loose dem to go home and bathe. Dem had to post $100,000 bail. People suck dem teeth and start to line up outside de courts to ketch a glimpse of dem.
Is one week now and no fireman get charge. Is like if de police decide to hold back pon de charge. Dem boys want to know if some of dem firemen share some of de things dem thief wid de people who got to charge dem. CNN, BBC and all dem international media house looking on.
Talk half and wait fuh dem firemen go to court.
Mars posted:Zed posted:Mars posted:Zed posted:Mars posted:Zed posted:Interesting time ahead, we will get a clearer picture as time goes by.
Thank You, Captain Obvious. Like you trying to tek away D_G wuk now.
Was this the only thing I wrote in my post? But you still smarting from your failure to prove that Corbin was Jagdeoâs puppet.
Show proof that there are interesting times ahead and the picture will get clearer as time goes by.
This is getting hilarious!
1, the LGE election results showed that the AFC has little support in the PPP areas. What strength they have exists in GT as an alternative to the PNC. This das consequence for the. When the Cummingsburg Accord is renogiated in terms of the number of seats and ministerial they will be allocated. That is if the APNU think that the AFC will be a factor in the APNU returning to power. This is interesting to me as a political spectator and as a voter in the Guyana election and the picture in terms of whether there will be a coalition with the AFC and APNU will become clearer over time.
2. As the official LGE results for each polling station is made official, then we can make a Better determination of whether the approx 45000 votes that the PPP lead the coalition by is a result of APNU supporters staying home, a surge in PPP support or a combination of both. With the low turnout generally, over time with results from each polling station, we might then determine some possible scenarios for the 2020 elections.
imcan go on, and write a book about this I just want to make my point!
This is no proof of anything. It's just your opinion. I don't see anything interesting about it and the picture is not clearer to me and a few other people. You did state that we will get a clearer picture, no?
Show me the evidence!
I will leave you to your futile attempts to divert from your lack of understanding of my original post and your feeble attempt to explain your âgospelâ coomnent about Corbin.
Zed posted:Mars posted:This is no proof of anything. It's just your opinion. I don't see anything interesting about it and the picture is not clearer to me and a few other people. You did state that we will get a clearer picture, no?
Show me the evidence!
I will leave you to your futile attempts to divert from your lack of understanding of my original post and your feeble attempt to explain your âgospelâ coomnent about Corbin.
Dude, I understand that you're a senior citizen and you're a bit slow on the uptake when you don't take your Ginko, so I'll break it down for you and hope that enough brain cells eventually kick in. You must be really stupid to think that I have a copy of a master/stooge contract signed between Jagdeo and Corbin, so how else can I provide proof that such a relationship existed? It's quite obvious to anyone (except you) reading this forum, that I was merely voicing an opinion, albeit, one which I've heard shared by many other people including on this very forum. It's my opinion and that of many others. When did that ever become "Gospel"? Now if you're going to ask me to provide proof for such an opinion, then I'm holding you to your own standards and asking you to provide proof that Granger is a puppet of Corbin. Practice what you preach and stop being a lame hypocrite.
Mars posted:Zed posted:Mars posted:This is no proof of anything. It's just your opinion. I don't see anything interesting about it and the picture is not clearer to me and a few other people. You did state that we will get a clearer picture, no?
Show me the evidence!
I will leave you to your futile attempts to divert from your lack of understanding of my original post and your feeble attempt to explain your âgospelâ coomnent about Corbin.
Dude, I understand that you're a senior citizen and you're a bit slow on the uptake when you don't take your Ginko, so I'll break it down for you and hope that enough brain cells eventually kick in. You must be really stupid to think that I have a copy of a master/stooge contract signed between Jagdeo and Corbin, so how else can I provide proof that such a relationship existed? It's quite obvious to anyone (except you) reading this forum, that I was merely voicing an opinion, albeit, one which I've heard shared by many other people including on this very forum. It's my opinion and that of many others. When did that ever become "Gospel"? Now if you're going to ask me to provide proof for such an opinion, then I'm holding you to your own standards and asking you to provide proof that Granger is a puppet of Corbin. Practice what you preach and stop being a lame hypocrite.
Your statement was definitive, like it was gospel, like if you had the facts. If it is your narrative then say it is your narrative and put something to support it. At least, you walked that back. Now for the other matter.
Please post where I said that Granger is a puppet of Corbin. The exact quote, not your warped version of what I posted.
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- Mars posted:
https://www.kaieteurnewsonline...ide-he-buxton-shame/
Dem boys seh âĶJagdeo tell lie fuh hide he Buxton shame
Nov 15, 2018
People wake up yesterday morning to see a headline which seh de PNC lose in Buxton. Dem wasnât worried about de low voter turnout, dem wasnât worried about Nagamootoo losing in Whim but dem was worried about de headline.
De Buxtonians was more than mad. Dem seh how de newspaper mek dem look like if dem is people who love Jagdeo.
But is Jagdeo who lie in de first place. He know he party win de NDC which include Buxton but he decide to exaggerate to mek he followers feel nice.
When de confusion die down and de dust settle, one man tell de newspaper dat Jagdeo good at misleading people and he like lie. Dem decide to publish de statement of poll.
Dat is when dem boys see wha Jagdeo try to hide. He didnât get a single vote in Buxton. To de village people was like if he didnât exist.
Dem boys shame but then again dat is not de only time he mek dem feel shame. De firemen who follow in he footstep and thief anything dat ainât bolt down on the plane mek de whole of Guyana feel shame.
When dem been in de lockups everybody was happy because de only thing dem could thief in de lockups was de bars.
Bright and early Monday morning, de police decide to loose dem to go home and bathe. Dem had to post $100,000 bail. People suck dem teeth and start to line up outside de courts to ketch a glimpse of dem.
Is one week now and no fireman get charge. Is like if de police decide to hold back pon de charge. Dem boys want to know if some of dem firemen share some of de things dem thief wid de people who got to charge dem. CNN, BBC and all dem international media house looking on.
Talk half and wait fuh dem firemen go to court.
Our firemen did a disservice to Guyana in creating international headlines by stealing and not one single response from the Security Minister. He also putting Guyana to shame. He battie biting now with the no confidence motion looming and with Congress Place about to light a fire on his tail.
Talk Half and Drink Quarter.
Zed posted:Mars posted:Zed posted:Mars posted:This is no proof of anything. It's just your opinion. I don't see anything interesting about it and the picture is not clearer to me and a few other people. You did state that we will get a clearer picture, no?
Show me the evidence!
I will leave you to your futile attempts to divert from your lack of understanding of my original post and your feeble attempt to explain your âgospelâ coomnent about Corbin.
Dude, I understand that you're a senior citizen and you're a bit slow on the uptake when you don't take your Ginko, so I'll break it down for you and hope that enough brain cells eventually kick in. You must be really stupid to think that I have a copy of a master/stooge contract signed between Jagdeo and Corbin, so how else can I provide proof that such a relationship existed? It's quite obvious to anyone (except you) reading this forum, that I was merely voicing an opinion, albeit, one which I've heard shared by many other people including on this very forum. It's my opinion and that of many others. When did that ever become "Gospel"? Now if you're going to ask me to provide proof for such an opinion, then I'm holding you to your own standards and asking you to provide proof that Granger is a puppet of Corbin. Practice what you preach and stop being a lame hypocrite.
Your statement was definitive, like it was gospel, like if you had the facts. If it is your narrative then say it is your narrative and put something to support it. At least, you walked that back. Now for the other matter.
Please post where I said that Granger is a puppet of Corbin. The exact quote, not your warped version of what I posted.
Are you stupid or what? I didn't walk anything back. Do people say "this is my opinion" every time they voice an opinion? It's obviously an opinion if I don't have a copy of a master/stooge contract between Jagdeo and Corbin. Do you really expect me to have one? I'm holding you to your own standards. If I have to provide proof every time I voice an opinion, then so should you. Go ahead, show us your proof that Granger is a puppet of Corbin.
Mars posted:Zed posted:Mars posted:Zed posted:Mars posted:This is no proof of anything. It's just your opinion. I don't see anything interesting about it and the picture is not clearer to me and a few other people. You did state that we will get a clearer picture, no?
Show me the evidence!
I will leave you to your futile attempts to divert from your lack of understanding of my original post and your feeble attempt to explain your âgospelâ coomnent about Corbin.
Dude, I understand that you're a senior citizen and you're a bit slow on the uptake when you don't take your Ginko, so I'll break it down for you and hope that enough brain cells eventually kick in. You must be really stupid to think that I have a copy of a master/stooge contract signed between Jagdeo and Corbin, so how else can I provide proof that such a relationship existed? It's quite obvious to anyone (except you) reading this forum, that I was merely voicing an opinion, albeit, one which I've heard shared by many other people including on this very forum. It's my opinion and that of many others. When did that ever become "Gospel"? Now if you're going to ask me to provide proof for such an opinion, then I'm holding you to your own standards and asking you to provide proof that Granger is a puppet of Corbin. Practice what you preach and stop being a lame hypocrite.
Your statement was definitive, like it was gospel, like if you had the facts. If it is your narrative then say it is your narrative and put something to support it. At least, you walked that back. Now for the other matter.
Please post where I said that Granger is a puppet of Corbin. The exact quote, not your warped version of what I posted.
Are you stupid or what? I didn't walk anything back. Do people say "this is my opinion" every time they voice an opinion? It's obviously an opinion if I don't have a copy of a master/stooge contract between Jagdeo and Corbin. Do you really expect me to have one? I'm holding you to your own standards. If I have to provide proof every time I voice an opinion, then so should you. Go ahead, show us your proof that Granger is a puppet of Corbin.
Instead of rambling and still trying to walk back what you posted, please post exactly what my original post was.
Zed posted:Mars posted:Are you stupid or what? I didn't walk anything back. Do people say "this is my opinion" every time they voice an opinion? It's obviously an opinion if I don't have a copy of a master/stooge contract between Jagdeo and Corbin. Do you really expect me to have one? I'm holding you to your own standards. If I have to provide proof every time I voice an opinion, then so should you. Go ahead, show us your proof that Granger is a puppet of Corbin.
Instead of rambling and still trying to walk back what you posted, please post exactly what my original post was.
Now you can't defend yourself, you resort to calling it rambling? haha? Now tell me which normal person starts every sentence by declaring "this is my opinion". If I have to provide proof every time I voice an opinion, then so should you. Go ahead, show us your proof that Granger is a puppet of Corbin.
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Mitwah posted:Baseman posted:Mits, give credit to KP, he has a point!!
When you respond to every shitty post, you give the poster the attention not deserved!!
Django need to learn that too!!
Thanks KP and Baseman. Noted.
I hope gni takes this as a lesson that one is never too old to change their ways.
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Is this what you are scared to post? Here is what you posted and what I posted. Yours was definitive whereas mine was not. Any school child knows the difference
Mars posted
Corbin is a has been who was once a Jagdeo stooge. The only strings he could be pulling for Granger is if the President wants him to tie his shoe laces. Heâs given a job as an advisor to compensate for his long service to the party. Harmon wields a lot more power than Corbin and Green.
Zed posted
One thing we definitely know is that it will not be the puppet, lame duck prime minister we currently have. We will have to await the decision of the PPP central committee to determine who will be the presidential candidate for the PPP.
Learn from history! Jagdeo was referred to as Janet jaganâs puppet until he reminded her publicly that she was just a private citizen.there is lots of talk here on whether Corbin or Green pulls Grangerâs string.
Zed posted:Is this what you are scared to post? Here is what you posted and what I posted. Yours was definitive whereas mine was not. Any school child knows the difference
Mars posted
Corbin is a has been who was once a Jagdeo stooge. The only strings he could be pulling for Granger is if the President wants him to tie his shoe laces. Heâs given a job as an advisor to compensate for his long service to the party. Harmon wields a lot more power than Corbin and Green.
Zed posted
One thing we definitely know is that it will not be the puppet, lame duck prime minister we currently have. We will have to await the decision of the PPP central committee to determine who will be the presidential candidate for the PPP.
Learn from history! Jagdeo was referred to as Janet jaganâs puppet until he reminded her publicly that she was just a private citizen.there is lots of talk here on whether Corbin or Green pulls Grangerâs string.
Don't forget that you also added this and I quote "Granger might have been a life long member of the PNC, but it was Corbin who brought him into the leadership race, promoted him and stood by him Against Greenidge and others. Make no mistake, Corbin was respected within the PNC, except maybe for Greene who always hoped to be leader of the PNC and president."
Any school child knows that what I posted is my opinion. Do I really have to state "this is my opinion" before every post I make? I can't believe you would be so stupid to think so. I formed an opinion based on input that I received from several sources. There is no one who can prove that Corbin was a stooge of Jagdeo unless they have a signed agreement between the two men. So why would you ask me for proof of such an opinion? You also posted an opinion based on what you claimed was from several sources. Now if you demand proof of my opinion, then you should do the gentlemanly thing and post proof of your opinion first. You're on the clock. We're waiting for your proof.
comprehension questions for you
based on what Zed posted, what is his opinion on what the relationship is between Corbin and Granger? Did Zed say that Corbin was pulling Grangerâs strings? What does the following words mean â...there is a lot of talk here...?
should be easy for you since any school child would not find it difficult. Take your time, no hurry,
Zed posted:comprehension questions for you
based on what Zed posted, what is his opinion on what the relationship is between Corbin and Granger? Did Zed say that Corbin was pulling Grangerâs strings? What does the following words mean â...there is a lot of talk here...?
should be easy for you since any school child would not find it difficult. Take your time, no hurry,
Knucklehead, don't forget that you also added these definitive statements as you call them and I quote "Granger might have been a life long member of the PNC, but it was Corbin who brought him into the leadership race, promoted him and stood by him Against Greenidge and others. Make no mistake, Corbin was respected within the PNC, except maybe for Greene who always hoped to be leader of the PNC and president."
Post the proof on what you said and stop being a chicken. Practice what you preach.
Now trying to digress from your lack of comprehension by bringing other statements.
I think I spent enough time trying to teach you English and comprehension. Obviously, I will not make a good teacher! Good night.
I think Zed is D_G. The writing style is very similar. As Zed he is careful not to use a certain word.
The last bit of info you asked about. I got from a leading member of tge PNC, someone who backedGreenidge for the leadership, someone who now has a high government position. Obviously, I cannot reveal who that is in order to protect that person.
Mitwah posted:I think Zed is D_G. The writing style is very similar. As Zed he is careful not to use a certain word.
I can, with no hesitation, and with no ambiguity, say that you are wrong to think that Zed and DG are the same person.
goodnight
Zed posted:Now trying to digress from your lack of comprehension by bringing other statements.
I think I spent enough time trying to teach you English and comprehension. Obviously, I will not make a good teacher! Good night.
"Granger might have been a life long member of the PNC, but it was Corbin who brought him into the leadership race, promoted him and stood by him Against Greenidge and others. Make no mistake, Corbin was respected within the PNC, except maybe for Greene who always hoped to be leader of the PNC and president."
You made these statements and now you're trying to dodge them. You're trying to pick and choose what you should provide proof for. Hahaha. Looks like you're throwing in the towel because you realize that you cannot provide proof for your own opinions. You demand proof from others but you cannot live up to your own demands. You'll never make a good teacher because you don't practice what you preach and you're attempting to teach someone who's much more accomplished than you are at English Language and Comprehension. What a bloody hypocrite!
Zed posted:The last bit of info you asked about. I got from a leading member of tge PNC, someone who backedGreenidge for the leadership, someone who now has a high government position. Obviously, I cannot reveal who that is in order to protect that person.
Who do you think you're speaking to, your boys at the rum shop? Hearsay and baseless opinions are not proof Knucklehead. Nice try.
Mars posted:Zed posted:Now trying to digress from your lack of comprehension by bringing other statements.
I think I spent enough time trying to teach you English and comprehension. Obviously, I will not make a good teacher! Good night.
"Granger might have been a life long member of the PNC, but it was Corbin who brought him into the leadership race, promoted him and stood by him Against Greenidge and others. Make no mistake, Corbin was respected within the PNC, except maybe for Greene who always hoped to be leader of the PNC and president."
You made these statements and now you're trying to dodge them. You're trying to pick and choose what you should provide proof for. Hahaha. Looks like you're throwing in the towel because you realize that you cannot provide proof for your own opinions. You demand proof from others but you cannot live up to your own demands. You'll never make a good teacher because you don't practice what you preach and you're attempting to teach someone who's much more accomplished than you are at English Language and Comprehension. What a bloody hypocrite!
The point I want to get across to you is that you, and so many like you come on this site and make wild statements without marshaling any facts or arguments to support them. People visiting this site will leave, thinking these opinions are supported by some facts and before long, it is passed around as fact.
To this point, you seem to think that only a contract or something to that effect will prove it. Well, you do not need to show a contract. If it brays. Has four legs, eats grass, it is a donkey. Pose the actions or attributes that lend to the statement!
If something is posted as a narrative or an opinion without any supporting arguments, then you are asking readers to post accept what you post on faith, as gospel instead of reason.
saying that you are much more accomplished than me is infantile as an argument because you have not established a basis in fact that this is so. But I need to leave you with your illusions!
regarding my source and reference to rum shop. First, the individual is now a diplomat. And second, sometimes some of the losters on this site act as if this is a rum shop. (If they still are what they were about thirty years ago)
Zed posted:Mars posted:Zed posted:Now trying to digress from your lack of comprehension by bringing other statements.
I think I spent enough time trying to teach you English and comprehension. Obviously, I will not make a good teacher! Good night.
"Granger might have been a life long member of the PNC, but it was Corbin who brought him into the leadership race, promoted him and stood by him Against Greenidge and others. Make no mistake, Corbin was respected within the PNC, except maybe for Greene who always hoped to be leader of the PNC and president."
You made these statements and now you're trying to dodge them. You're trying to pick and choose what you should provide proof for. Hahaha. Looks like you're throwing in the towel because you realize that you cannot provide proof for your own opinions. You demand proof from others but you cannot live up to your own demands. You'll never make a good teacher because you don't practice what you preach and you're attempting to teach someone who's much more accomplished than you are at English Language and Comprehension. What a bloody hypocrite!
The point I want to get across to you is that you, and so many like you come on this site and make wild statements without marshaling any facts or arguments to support them. People visiting this site will leave, thinking these opinions are supported by some facts and before long, it is passed around as fact.
Well, practice what you preach, Hypocrite. That's the point I want to get across to you but your impervious cranium is making it a bit difficult. You made wild statements about Granger and now you can't show any proof, the same standard you are demanding from me.
To this point, you seem to think that only a contract or something to that effect will prove it. Well, you do not need to show a contract. If it brays. Has four legs, eats grass, it is a donkey. Pose the actions or attributes that lend to the statement!
You asked for proof, Fool, not actions or attributes or rum shop talk. Do you understand the meaning of the word "proof"? Didn't you claim that you are accomplished in English Comprehension? Looks like once again, you have no proof to support what you say.
If something is posted as a narrative or an opinion without any supporting arguments, then you are asking readers to post accept what you post on faith, as gospel instead of reason.
I never asked anyone to believe anything I say. I have arguments to support what I write but I'm not under obligation to anyone to post supporting material for each and every sentence. What do you think, we're in law school here? Get real!
saying that you are much more accomplished than me is infantile as an argument because you have not established a basis in fact that this is so. But I need to leave you with your illusions!
I'm just returning the favor to you based on the several digs that you threw my way so why are you whining like a little girl now? Here you are talking about infantile behavior and in the next sentence, you repeat the same thing again. You definitely have a problem with living up to the standards that you demand of others.
regarding my source and reference to rum shop. First, the individual is now a diplomat. And second, sometimes some of the losters on this site act as if this is a rum shop. (If they still are what they were about thirty years ago)
I don't give two hoots who your source is. You can claim that God told you directly and it wouldn't impress me. You asked for proof so I expect that you'd deliver the same when asked for it. Now you're coming with some bullshit story about someone high up in the government told you this and it has to be true. Let me remind you once more because it takes a while for your neurons to start firing. Hearsay and baseless opinions are not proof, Knucklehead. I can easily tell you that many people in the PPP executive told me so but we're talking about proof not some "the dog ate my homework" story.
See my answers above in bold letters.
We're still waiting for your proof. Tick tock.
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The bickering on GNI over petty issues makes a lie that Prashad's Indesh will work. Once their battle with blacks finishes Indesh will battle amongst itself.
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caribny posted:The bickering on GNI over petty issues makes a lie that Prashad's Indesh will work. Once their battle with blacks finishes Indesh will battle amongst itself.
à la Hindus & Muslims in Gujarat.
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Gilbakka posted:caribny posted:The bickering on GNI over petty issues makes a lie that Prashad's Indesh will work. Once their battle with blacks finishes Indesh will battle amongst itself.
à la Hindus & Muslims in Gujarat.
Right. The violence in India among Indians is way worse than that in Guyana between Indians and blacks.
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