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The police has a right to search a suspect's residence, BUT can they do so  without a search warrant ? Maybe only in Guyana. 

This reminds me of the old days in the logies. When a manager accompanied by the police, would LITERALLY kick open the front door and search for suspected stolen sugar. All the kids in the house would start crying from fear. 

Indians would tell false stories about other Indians and most times nothing was found.  

Tola
@Ramakant-P posted:

Somebody hollering 'Murder'.   The Police made a mistake and the PPP is being blamed for this episode.  It was OK when Ramjattan and Moses went after the PPP in 2015 but it is not Ok now. A large crowd is gathering in front of Jones's residence behaving badly.

Looks like beefstake!!! probably political direction .

Django
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Police attempt to search PNCR’s Chris Jones’ home for “state assets”; he calls it “wicked political vindictiveness”

The items stored at Christopher Jones’ residence.

Police on Thursday night turned up at the Tucville, Georgetown home of People’s National Congress Reform (PNCR) executive member Christopher Jones to conduct a raid for several pieces of barbershop equipment worth more than GYD$4 million that were funded by a government project.

Up to about 8:30 PM, police from the Major Crimes Unit were outside Jones’ residence where party supporters thronged in solidarity with the former Director of Sport.

He told News-Talk Radio Guyana 103,1 FM/ Demerara Waves Online News that the law enforcement agents said they were there for “asset recovery”- barber chairs and air condition units  but he refused to let them inside on the grounds that they needed a search warrant.

Mr. Jones slammed the police action, saying that that was all part of a witch-hunt by the 18-day old People’s Progressive Party (PPP)-led  administration. “This is political vindictiveness and nothing else but set out to embarass me and I am pretty certain it is going to happen to quite a few other persons. It is wicked political vindictiveness,” he said.

He said a proposal was approved and the items procured under the then Ministry of Social Protection’s Sustainable Livelihood and Entrepreneurial Development (SLED) programme. “I have no idea that I have State assets in my possession,” Mr. Jones said.

He explained that the items were stored away until the recent political storm over the outcome of the March 2, 2020 general and regional elections as over before construction of the barber shop commenced.

Attorney-at-Law Darren Wade (left) and Christopher Jones speaking with Acting Chief Justice Brassington Reynolds. A request was made for an injunction to restrain the police from searching Mr. Jones premises unlawfully.

In audit documents released by the Minister of Public Affairs Kwame McCoy, GYD$$4.084 million was paid to Dominion Enterprise and GYD$$900,999 to Gafsons Industries were paid in June , 2019. The audit document states that “a physical inspection of the assets purchased revealed that items valuing $4.084M were still not put into use, since these items were stored in a room at the residence of the beneficiary Mr. Christopher Jones.” The items are 18 Apollo professional barber chairs worth GYD$2,556,000 and one condensing unit 208/230 voltage air handler single piece electric kit valued GYD$1,528,000.

Further, the audit states that details of a letter from the Permanent Secretary of the Ministry of Social Protection dated 22 May 2019, states that the items were to be procured for the beneficiary who ‘operates’ a barber shop.

The document, however, states that at the time of the physical verification it was discovered that the beneficiary does not operate a barber shop, since construction of the said barber shop has not yet commenced.

Mr. Jones insisted that all of the procedures were followed and there was nothing irregular about the transaction.

Attorney-at-Law Darren Wade said the police refused to speak with acting Chief Justice Brassington Reynolds via WhatsApp to hear their side. Mr. Wade said constitutional relief would be sought from the High Court on Friday.

Speaking with reporters outside Mr. Jones’ residence, PNCR Executive Member Aubrey Norton vowed that the PPP would not be allowed to behave in the same manner as they had done during their 1992 to 2015 administration. Mr. Norton also urged police not to execute unlawful instructions. “The Guyana Police Force must know that they are expected to uphold the law, not violate the law by going and search people  while protecting criminals,” he said.

Referring to the police killing of people during that PPP administration, Mr. Norton vowed that “we will bring out our supporters and fight them; they will kill no more of us.”

A PNCR supporter, who was at the scene, said there was a power outage in the area of Jones’ residence all afternoon.

Django

In order to correct the corruption of the past 5 years the current government has to take strict and drastic steps which will sometimes include search and seizures. The search has to be legal though. The question is why are these items stores at Jones' residence and where is he really in the construction of that barber shop. Or is that barber shop construction just a ruse.

FM
@Tola posted:

The police has a right to search a suspect's residence, BUT can they do so  without a search warrant ? Maybe only in Guyana. 

This reminds me of the old days in the logies. When a manager accompanied by the police, would LITERALLY kick open the front door and search for suspected stolen sugar. All the kids in the house would start crying from fear. 

Indians would tell false stories about other Indians and most times nothing was found.  

You lie!

R
@Tola posted:

The police has a right to search a suspect's residence, BUT can they do so  without a search warrant ? Maybe only in Guyana. 

This reminds me of the old days in the logies. When a manager accompanied by the police, would LITERALLY kick open the front door and search for suspected stolen sugar. All the kids in the house would start crying from fear. 

Indians would tell false stories about other Indians and most times nothing was found.  

You claim you live there and experience daily living and never saw police shake down under the PNC. And yet have the cajones to accuse Indians of telling false stories....look in the mirror...

sachin_05
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@Ramakant-P posted:

These criminals forgot that they did the same to the PPP in 2015. They created a whole new department to harass the PPP members. They then took the assets and kept them for themselves.

One correction. The PPP does not behave vindictively. That is the PNC's mantra as evidenced by their behavior following the unconfirmed 2015 general elections results.

FM
@Tola posted:

The police has a right to search a suspect's residence, BUT can they do so  without a search warrant ? Maybe only in Guyana. 

This reminds me of the old days in the logies. When a manager accompanied by the police, would LITERALLY kick open the front door and search for suspected stolen sugar. All the kids in the house would start crying from fear

Indians would tell false stories about other Indians and most times nothing was found.  

Never heard of this in Skeldon.

FM
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Police to seize barbershop equipment in $4.9M project for Chris Jones

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The Police on Thursday night attempted to seize barber shop equipment stored at the Tucville, Georgetown home of former Director of Sports Christopher Jones.

However, the Police had no warrant to carry out the search and seizure and will guard the house overnight and return Friday morning with the warrant.

An audit conducted showed that the Ministry of Social Protection approved the disbursement of $4.9 million under the Region Four administration for the procurement of equipment for a barbershop under the Sustainable Livelihood and Entrepreneurial Development (SLED) programme.

A Financial Return presented revealed that the full amount was spent by December 31, 2019, but almost $1 million in items were not actually delivered and the project was not executed and some of the equipment were stored at Jones’ home.

Details of the purchases were:

Item  Quantity     Amount

Apollo Professional barber chairs      18     2,556,000

Condensing unit 208/230 Voltage Air Handler Single Piece Electric Kit 10Kw  1       1,528,000

48” x 48” 6mm Mirror    18     144,000

2” x 2” Gypsum Ceiling Tiles   732   370,000

10ft Main Tee       140   87,000

2ft Cross Tee        710   181,000

10ft Wall Angle     22     8,000

VAT   14%   111,000

Total  1641

$4,985, 000

An examination of the payment voucher and Regional Procurement and Tender Administration Board (RPTAB) Minutes revealed the following:

  1. a) Approval was not granted from RPTAB for the procurement of a Condensing Unit valuing $1.528M. However, audit checks revealed that the item was still purchased and supplied.
  2. b) PV № 74005202 remained on the list of outstanding cheque orders for 2019. Further, audit checks revealed that the cheque was paid to the supplier on 2 October 2019. However, at the time of reporting in August 2020, items to the value of $900,999 were not supplied. The table below provides a summary of the outstanding items:

Item  Quantity    Amount

48” x 48” 6mm Mirror    18     144,000

2” x 2” Gypsum Ceiling Tiles   732   370,000

10ft Main Tee       140   87,000

2ft Cross Tee        710   181,000

10ft Wall Angle     22     8,000

VAT   14%   111,000

Total  1622

$901,000

  1. A physical inspection of the assets purchased revealed that items valuing $4.084M were still not put into use, since these items were stored in a room at the residence of the beneficiary Mr. Christopher Jones. Details are in the table below:

Item  Quantity    Amount

Apollo Professional barber chairs      18     2,556,000

Condensing unit 208/230 Voltage Air Handler Single Piece Electric Kit 10Kw  1       1,528,000

Total  19

$4,084,000

  1. Details of a letter from the Permanent Secretary of the Ministry of Social Protection dated 22 May 2019, states that the items were to be procured for the beneficiary who ‘operates’ a barber shop.

However, at the time of the physical verification it was discovered that the beneficiary does not operate a barber shop, since construction of the said barbershop has not yet commenced as can be seen in the image below:

https://newsroom.gy/2020/08/20...ect-for-chris-jones/

FM
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APNU/AFC spent $4.9M to equip non-existent barber shop

â€Ķitems reportedly stored at Christopher Jones’ home

Police have applied for a search warrant to gain access to the home of senior A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) official, Christopher Jones, after it was allegedly reported that $4.9 million in barbershop equipment purchased by the former Administration is stored on his property.

Items which Police were trying to recover on Thursday evening

However, when Police went to the home of the former Director of Sports, in Tucville, Georgetown, they were refused entry and told to get a search warrant. By this time, several APNU officials, including Executives of both People’s National Congress (PNC) and Alliance for Change (AFC), also turned up at the property as Police stood guard.
According to audit documents seen by this publication, the regional administration received an Inter/Intra Departmental Warrant (IDW) ? 6/2019 dated June 19, 2019, from the Social Protection Ministry valuing $4.985 million for the procurement of equipment for the barbershop under Sustainable Livelihood and Entrepreneurial Development (SLED). A Financial Return presented revealed that the full amount was expended as at December 31, 2019. An audit examination of the relevant records revealed that the warrant was expended via two payment vouchers to the value of $4.084 million and $900,999. Audit documents revealed that approval was not granted from the National Procurement and Tender Administration Board (NPTAB) for the procurement of a Condensing Unit valuing $1.528 million. However, audit checks revealed that the item was still purchased and supplied. Additionally, further, audit checks revealed that the cheque was paid to the supplier on October 2, 2019, but the time of reporting in August 2020, items to the value of $900,999 were not supplied.

Items which were paid for by Government for the non-existent barbershop but were not supplied

Meanwhile, the audit report stated that a physical inspection of the assets purchased revealed that items valuing $4.084 million were still not put into use, since these items were stored in a room at the residence of the beneficiary, Christopher Jones. Further, the audit report stated that details of a letter from the Permanent Secretary of the Social Protection Ministry dated May 22, 2019, states that the items were to be procured for the beneficiary who “operates” a barbershop. However, at the time of the physical verification, it was discovered that the beneficiary does not operate a barbershop, since the construction of the said barbershop has not yet commenced.

https://guyanatimesgy.com/apnu...xistent-barber-shop/

FM
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@Django posted:

Do you know how Christopher Jones get the barber shop equipment ?

Address the issue not DJ .

Firstly, your title of this thread stated: 

"Police harassment of former Director of Sports Christopher Jones."

All media reports are providing evidence that appear to prove otherwise.

Is the Guyana media harassing Jones ?

This matter will be for the courts to decide. These alleged criminal activities are being investigated. The police are doing their jobs. 

 

FM
@Former Member posted:

Firstly, your title of this thread stated: 

"Police harassment of former Director of Sports Christopher Jones."

All media reports are providing evidence that appear to prove otherwise.

Is the Guyana media harassing Jones ?

This matter will be for the courts to decide. These alleged criminal activities are being investigated. The police are doing their jobs.

Do you know how Christopher Jones get the barber shop equipment ?

Django
21st August 2020
Dear Editor,
An apology is owed to Christopher Jones and a more mature approach to sensitive issues adopted.
The facts are that Chris Jones applied for a grant from the Ministry of Social Services and was awarded $4.9 Million to equip a Barbershop and employ twenty persons. Equipment was purchased and delivered to Jones as the 'beneficiary' of a government grant. The project was delayed and the equipment was retained by the legal owner (Jones). An audit revealed that the items were all together and not sold or disposed of in any way.
To make a charge of larceny because the project has not materialized is ludicrous in extremis and certainly not a position any reasonable person can support. Whatever the reason for the project stalling, and there are numerous to choose from; NCM or endless political campaigning since December 21, 2018, for example. What then should be the approach?
I would suggest that:
1. Someone from a relevant Ministry reaches out to Jones and offers to assist with the establishment of the Barbershop business.
2. Should Jones not be interested in the project at this stage, he be asked to return the equipment voluntarily.
3. There is no case to be made for larceny or any other illegality and that must be discontinued immediately.
4. The Guyana Police Force needs to carefully consider its actions and professionalism, their actions on the night of the 20th August does not do them credit.
Respectfully
Robin Singh
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/118241765_10164479908530497_8430452156775786134_o.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=H_HDFe8-P0oAX8OlOzw&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=1d34c9f7fdc458aa47f7fd985c1fd722&oe=5F65259B
Django
@Django posted:

The current government is acting in Dictatorial manner using the Police to harass citizens of Guyana.

When the shoe is on the other foot ,it's a different matter .Quite appalling how folks see no wrong in the actions of police ,defying court orders.

One criminal was caught stealing state properties and you think that the Police who did their jobs are harassing the citizens of Guyana? 

Is it Ok for Norton to call out PNC hooligans to disturb the peace and create disturbances?  In 2015, The Security Minister in the Coalition Government along with their Prime Minister with the blessings from the President went after PPP members trying to lock them up.  You have control of those articles that were written at the time of the infractions.

R
@Former Member posted:

I heard dat Congress Place shyte their pants after Jagdeo's interview. All of the alleged PNC criminals are now running for cover and some of them are now hollering harassment. 

Lock them PNC criminals up !!!!

Remember, I said that Jagdeo will have no problem handling those who broke the law. Let them scream. If you do the crime you do the time.

R
@Former Member posted:

I heard dat Congress Place shyte their pants after Jagdeo's interview. All of the alleged PNC criminals are now running for cover and some of them are now hollering harassment. 

Lock them PNC criminals up !!!!

Why are you people so obsessed with sh*t, is it because Indians still squat on both sides of the street in India every morning ? 

Tola
@Django posted:

What crime Christopher Jones committed ?

DJ, this escalated unnecessarily. He should have his lawyers on the spot and prevented the escalation. When the dust is settled on this, he might have just developed a very strong defence.

1. No original warrant.

2. No legal defence upon his arrest.

3. He appears to have acquired these items through a legal grant.

I am going him all the benefits of a doubt.

FM

PNCR’s Christopher Jones arrested, barber shop equipment seized from home

 

Police removing items from Mr. Christopher Jones’ residence at Tucville, Georgetown at 1 O’clock Friday, 21st August, 2020.

Despite a High Court order,  People’s National Congress Reform (PNCR) executive member, Christopher Jones was arrested on an allegation of simple larceny and several items connected to a barbershop that he planned to open were seized by police early Friday morning.

Mr. Jones, a former government Director Sport, was first taken by police to the Diamond Police Station and later transferred to the Brickdam Police Station where he was being questioned by investigators.

Attorney-at-Law Darren Wade told News-Talk Radio that initially the police had no search warrant but at the time of Mr. Jones’ arrest and seizure of the barbershop chairs and air conditioning unit, police had a document but did not show him or his client.

Mr. Wade said the interim High Court order was read by him to two senior police officers outside Mr. Jones’ home but they declined to accept it. He said one of them remarked “take it to the court.” The lawyer said the order was not served on Police Commissioner Nigel Hoppie but it provided for agents or servants.

Regarding the arrest of Mr. Jones as part of a probe into simple larceny, the Attorney-at-Law said “you cannot steal something from yourself” as his client followed all the rules in obtaining the more than GYD$4 million grant to purchase the items for the proposed barbershop. The funds were provided by the Ministry of Social Protection’s  Sustainable Livelihood and Entrepreneurial Development (SLED) programme.

Attorney General Anil Nandlall told News-Talk Radio / Demerara Waves Online News said the new government has a duty to recover properties of the Ministry of Social Cohesion, based on an audit report, “were identified to be at the home of Christopher Jones” and the police were dispatched to recover the items and take a statement about how they were at his premised. “The new government needs to understand where various assets of the government are located so that the current ministers where the properties of the ministries are. It’s a simple as that I don’t know how it became some confrontational,” said Mr. Nandlall.

Told that the audit report shows that Mr. Jones had properly acquired those items through the SLED programme, Mr. Nandlall said Mr. Jones could have gone to the police station and given a statement.

The Attorney General said he was unaware of  a High Court order prohibiting the search and seizure.

sachin_05
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@Django posted:
21st August 2020
Dear Editor,
An apology is owed to Christopher Jones and a more mature approach to sensitive issues adopted.
The facts are that Chris Jones applied for a grant from the Ministry of Social Services and was awarded $4.9 Million to equip a Barbershop and employ twenty persons. Equipment was purchased and delivered to Jones as the 'beneficiary' of a government grant. The project was delayed and the equipment was retained by the legal owner (Jones). An audit revealed that the items were all together and not sold or disposed of in any way.
To make a charge of larceny because the project has not materialized is ludicrous in extremis and certainly not a position any reasonable person can support. Whatever the reason for the project stalling, and there are numerous to choose from; NCM or endless political campaigning since December 21, 2018, for example. What then should be the approach?
I would suggest that:
1. Someone from a relevant Ministry reaches out to Jones and offers to assist with the establishment of the Barbershop business.
2. Should Jones not be interested in the project at this stage, he be asked to return the equipment voluntarily.
3. There is no case to be made for larceny or any other illegality and that must be discontinued immediately.
4. The Guyana Police Force needs to carefully consider its actions and professionalism, their actions on the night of the 20th August does not do them credit.
Respectfully
Robin Singh
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/118241765_10164479908530497_8430452156775786134_o.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=H_HDFe8-P0oAX8OlOzw&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=1d34c9f7fdc458aa47f7fd985c1fd722&oe=5F65259B

PPP and PNC old heads will eventually smooth this one out. After carefully reviewing the gathered information, Jones will walk away free on this and might have to be compensated. 

If there is proof that he acquired it legally as suggested then case closed.

An unsigned warrant was totally unacceptable in the first instance. 

I am being as fair as possible. Robin Singh is correct.

FM
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@Former Member posted:

DJ, this escalated unnecessarily.

He should have his lawyers on the spot and prevented the escalation.

When the dust is settled on this, he might have just developed a very strong defence.

1. No original warrant.

2. No legal defence upon his arrest.

3. He appears to have acquired these items through a legal grant.

I am going him all the benefits of a doubt.

The lawyers was there ,the police acted unprofessionally carrying out the instructions that was given.

Christopher Jones have done nothing illegal ,how can one be charged for simple larceny for stealing something from yourself . The government made Jones more popular ,he was wrongfully arrested.

Django
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@Django posted:

The lawyers was there ,the police acted unprofessionally carrying out the instructions that was given.

Christopher Jones have done nothing illegal ,how can one be charged for simple larceny for stealing something from yourself . The government made Jones more popular ,he was wrongfully arrested.

There should be a swift apology to Jones and his family and financial compensation provided for the humiliation and distress caused as a result of excessive police actions.

I call a spade a spade. That's why people sometimes don't agree with me.

FM
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@Former Member posted:

There should be a swift apology to Jones and his family and financial compensation provided for the humiliation and distress caused as a result of excessive police actions.

I call a spade a spade. That's why people sometimes don't agree with me.

The Government started on wrong footing ,someone power drunk or on the cusp of insanity.

Django

APNU/AFC spent $4.9M to equip non-existent barber shop

â€Ķitems reportedly stored at Christopher Jones’ home

Police have applied for a search warrant to gain access to the home of senior A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) official, Christopher Jones, after it was allegedly reported that $4.9 million in barbershop equipment purchased by the former Administration is stored on his property.

Items which Police were trying to recover on Thursday evening

However, when Police went to the home of the former Director of Sports, in Tucville, Georgetown, they were refused entry and told to get a search warrant. By this time, several APNU officials, including Executives of both People’s National Congress (PNC) and Alliance for Change (AFC), also turned up at the property as Police stood guard.
According to audit documents seen by this publication, the regional administration received an Inter/Intra Departmental Warrant (IDW) ? 6/2019 dated June 19, 2019, from the Social Protection Ministry valuing $4.985 million for the procurement of equipment for the barbershop under Sustainable Livelihood and Entrepreneurial Development (SLED). A Financial Return presented revealed that the full amount was expended as at December 31, 2019. An audit examination of the relevant records revealed that the warrant was expended via two payment vouchers to the value of $4.084 million and $900,999. Audit documents revealed that approval was not granted from the National Procurement and Tender Administration Board (NPTAB) for the procurement of a Condensing Unit valuing $1.528 million. However, audit checks revealed that the item was still purchased and supplied. Additionally, further, audit checks revealed that the cheque was paid to the supplier on October 2, 2019, but the time of reporting in August 2020, items to the value of $900,999 were not supplied.

Items which were paid for by Government for the non-existent barbershop but were not supplied

Meanwhile, the audit report stated that a physical inspection of the assets purchased revealed that items valuing $4.084 million were still not put into use, since these items were stored in a room at the residence of the beneficiary, Christopher Jones. Further, the audit report stated that details of a letter from the Permanent Secretary of the Social Protection Ministry dated May 22, 2019, states that the items were to be procured for the beneficiary who “operates” a barbershop. However, at the time of the physical verification, it was discovered that the beneficiary does not operate a barbershop, since the construction of the said barbershop has not yet commenced.

 Guyana Times.https://guyanatimesgy.com/apnu-afc-spent-4-9m-to-equip-non-existent-barber-shop/

K

Bai KP we are all Guyanese brothers and sisters. We need to step back and analyze this incident. I am sure that there is another side to it but the current facts are as follows:

1 The police showed up without a search warrant.

2. Jones exercised his constitutional right to ask for a warrant.

3. Jones claims that he received these items through a grant.

4. Arresting him without a warrant seems excessive.

5. Apparently a stay order was rejected by the police.

6. Is this way forward for our country ?

7. His children were traumatized.

I am not making this a political incident but I want to see justice for all of my Guyanese brothers and sisters.

Let's see the AG and head of police now present their side of this matter. We can then hear both sides of this matter and draw our conclusions. 

 

FM
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Remember the incident with Nandalall and the Law Books, Well the shoe is on the other foot.  These political appointee are at the moment sabotaging the government, they are refusing to leave office and not wanting to return State Assets.  The authorities must act swiftly, without prior notice, so to catch them in the act.

K

I do have a few concerns:

"Audit documents revealed that approval was not granted from the National Procurement and Tender Administration Board (NPTAB) for the procurement of a Condensing Unit valuing $1.528 million. However, audit checks revealed that the item was still purchased and supplied. Additionally, further, audit checks revealed that the cheque was paid to the supplier on October 2, 2019, but the time of reporting in August 2020, items to the value of $900,999 were not supplied."

"Meanwhile, the audit report stated that a physical inspection of the assets purchased revealed that items valuing $4.084 million were still not put into use, since these items were stored in a room at the residence of the beneficiary, Christopher Jones. Further, the audit report stated that details of a letter from the Permanent Secretary of the Social Protection Ministry dated May 22, 2019, states that the items were to be procured for the beneficiary who “operates” a barbershop. However, at the time of the physical verification, it was discovered that the beneficiary does not operate a barbershop, since the construction of the said barbershop has not yet commenced."

 

I am no expert but there are some serious unanswered questions. Let's await the other side of this matter. One can then assume that these are still state properties ?

If they are, why are this still at a private residence ?

 

FM
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@kp posted:

Remember the incident with Nandalall and the Law Books, Well the shoe is on the other foot.  These political appointee are at the moment sabotaging the government, they are refusing to leave office and not wanting to return State Assets.  The authorities must act swiftly, without prior notice, so to catch them in the act.

Jagdeo did backdated the gift of the law books to Nanda Baba.

Mitwah

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