Django posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Django posted:

Prince posted:

Baseman posted:

ksazma posted:

No politician is above the law. Anyone who abuses their government held position should be subjected to the same level of scrutiny as any other citizen. Allegations are just that. They still have to be proven guilty so Ramotar should just shut up and let the case be tried in court.

True, but I believe they were handled in a way to humiliate the PPP and Indians in general.  This is all trumped up charges!

It's a ploy to discredit the PPP to give PNC an edge in the 2020 election. Jagdeo get book sense but Granger get street smart. Burnham used to thief buy don't get caught. 

Wha Burnham thief bhai ? there is nothing to show and what book sense Jagdoe got more than Granger ?

He thief Hope Estate from Amin Sankar.

Suh who own Hope Estate ?

Re-sold to the state.  Like how he Tek Letter T estate from Sophia Mustard and re-sell it to Resaul Maraj.

It was a good thing Burnham didn't live any longer. He was a madman becoming even madder with every passing day. Good thing for Guyana he skont died when he died. 

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Django posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Django posted:

Wha Burnham thief ?

He thief Hope Estate from Amin Sankar.

Suh who own Hope Estate ?

Re-sold to the state.  Like how he Tek Letter T estate from Sophia Mustard and re-sell it to Resaul Maraj.

Who sold it Viola ?

Bibi Haniffa posted:

he Tek Letter T estate from Sophia Mustard and re-sell it to Resaul Maraj.

when did this title transfer to Burnham happen?

and, what does "tek" mean here?

ronan posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

he Tek Letter T estate from Sophia Mustard and re-sell it to Resaul Maraj.

when did this title transfer to Burnham happen?

and, what does "tek" mean here?

Ms. Mustard died around 1961 at the age of 99.  She had no children and it is reported that she left the estate to her driver, a man named Oscar.  And her cook, whose name I forgot now.  Burnham was her lawyer.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

ronan posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

he Tek Letter T estate from Sophia Mustard and re-sell it to Resaul Maraj.

when did this title transfer to Burnham happen?

and, what does "tek" mean here?

Ms. Mustard died around 1961 at the age of 99.  She had no children and it is reported that she left the estate to her driver, a man named Oscar.  And her cook, whose name I forgot now.  Burnham was her lawyer.

so, you doan know nothing . . . not wan rass!

but just spending idle time here trafficking in malicious gossip on behalf of dem tiefman in the PPP

uh huh

Django posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Django posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Django posted:

Wha Burnham thief ?

He thief Hope Estate from Amin Sankar.

Suh who own Hope Estate ?

Re-sold to the state.  Like how he Tek Letter T estate from Sophia Mustard and re-sell it to Resaul Maraj.

Who sold it Viola ?

It had to be sold when Forbes was still alive.  One of Resaul sons used to run it he was popular with the ladies in the area.  He had fancy sports cars parked up near to the big mansion that Ms. mustard lived in.  One day he was speeding along on the MAhaicony road and he crashed and died.  

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Django posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Django posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Django posted:

Wha Burnham thief ?

He thief Hope Estate from Amin Sankar.

Suh who own Hope Estate ?

Re-sold to the state.  Like how he Tek Letter T estate from Sophia Mustard and re-sell it to Resaul Maraj.

Who sold it Viola ?

It had to be sold when Forbes was still alive.  One of Resaul sons used to run it he was popular with the ladies in the area.  He had fancy sports cars parked up near to the big mansion that Ms. mustard lived in.  One day he was speeding along on the MAhaicony road and he crashed and died.  

like you confused

if you are talking about Mustard estate, it is irrelevant to the subject of tiefmanism by politicians leveraging state power!!

now, stop the rambling, circle back and answer de man question about Sankar and Hope estate

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Django posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Django posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Django posted:

Wha Burnham thief ?

He thief Hope Estate from Amin Sankar.

Suh who own Hope Estate ?

Re-sold to the state.  Like how he Tek Letter T estate from Sophia Mustard and re-sell it to Resaul Maraj.

Who sold it Viola ?

It had to be sold when Forbes was still alive.  One of Resaul sons used to run it he was popular with the ladies in the area.  He had fancy sports cars parked up near to the big mansion that Ms. mustard lived in.  One day he was speeding along on the MAhaicony road and he crashed and died.  

Well you guessing.

Hope Estate and Fredrick Mahaica property was confiscated by Burnham which became State property,never heard about any selling of the properties.

Presently farmers are renting blocks of land of Hope Estate for pittance paid to the State.

ronan posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Django posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Django posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Django posted:

Wha Burnham thief ?

He thief Hope Estate from Amin Sankar.

Suh who own Hope Estate ?

Re-sold to the state.  Like how he Tek Letter T estate from Sophia Mustard and re-sell it to Resaul Maraj.

Who sold it Viola ?

It had to be sold when Forbes was still alive.  One of Resaul sons used to run it he was popular with the ladies in the area.  He had fancy sports cars parked up near to the big mansion that Ms. mustard lived in.  One day he was speeding along on the MAhaicony road and he crashed and died.  

like you confused

if you are talking about Mustard estate, it is irrelevant to the subject of tiefmanism by politicians leveraging state power!!

now, stop the rambling, circle back and answer de man question about Sankar and Hope estate

Oh sorry.  I'm circling back.  To clarify, the Kissoon matriarch is the daughter of Amin Sankar.

RETURN TAKUBA LODGE TO ITS ORIGINAL OWNERS

Feb 26, 2012 Features / Columnists

After the PPP won the 1992 elections, in the interest of peace, it refused to examine some of the terrible abuses that were committed during the previous twenty-eight years. A great deal of wrong was done under the PNC. Many persons were dispossessed of their properties during that era.
A few weeks ago, the matriarch of the popular Kissoon business family did an interview in another newspaper. In that interview she related things that were characteristic of the abuse of power that took place under Forbes Burnham. The former dictator had run the country as if it were his. He was known to have taken away properties at his whim and fancy.

In his corner were the most archaic laws which he exploited to full tilt. He took away your property in the interest of the public and paid you 1939 valuations. Amongst those that were dispossessed by the PNC government was the Kissoon family.
It is a telling compliment to the hypocrisy of this country that despite those stunning revelations of how Burnham disposed the Kissoon family of their properties, not a single line has been since penned about those notorious public acquisitions.
The family lost property because Burnham felt he could do as he pleased. He had the power achieved through rigged elections and he believed he was answerable to no one.
Among the properties lost by the Kissoon family was Takuba Lodge, a building that is today worth perhaps close to US$5M. According to the matriarch of the family, she was told that Burnham said he was afraid that the Russians would shoot him from that location. Imagine that became the reason to acquire the property.

Burnham encouraged the family to build that property for the Non-Aligned Summit and when it was over he simply seized it because he could do as he pleased, since with a two-third majority there was no one to overturn the law that allowed him to pay 1939 valuations for properties acquired for public purposes in the eighties.

We were also told in the interview that twelve villas, now known as Echilibar Villas, were also taken away by Burnham who paid the miserly sum of one million dollars for properties which today would fetch over US$1M.

Then there was the case of Hope Estate, which it was said was taken away from the mother of the matriarch of the Kissoon family. She related how her mother pined away after the estate was taken away.

And for what purpose did Burnham take away that estate? So that he could use it as part of his personal estate. He lived right next door at Belfield and he used to ride around like the plantation owners of colonial Guyana. He used to ride around on horseback and belch out orders to government employees who, for fear of losing their jobs, went to do manual work and so that they could get to buy food.

There were many other families that suffered under the infamy of those 1939 valuations. Their properties were taken away in the seventies and eighties. This was highway robbery.
This is one of the reasons why so many persons in that period moved their wealth overseas and why such a rapacious culture developed within the business community. You did not know when your property could be publicly acquired and so you tried to make huge profits and shuttle them outside of Guyana.
There is need for the media to do an investigative series about the lands and buildings that were taken away under the PNC. That part of Guyanese history should not be left covered under the rubble of the destructive policies of that era which the PPP decided not to trouble with.
There are still many old-timers around who will recall what was done and their families would still be willing to provide details. But knowing how some of our journalists operate, this is likely to be a no-go for them. A great deal of pain was caused by these policies and these persons who suffered need to be given some form of redress.

At least for the Kissoon family, who suffered more than most, they need to have compensation for what was done to them. The least that can be done is to give them back Takuba Lodge!
The PPP has to its credit changed the laws concerning compensation for properties acquired for public purposes. The law now provides for compensation at market values and the land on which the Water Street vendors market is located was compulsorily acquired, paying in excess of $300 million dollars. The government had said that the owners had only paid $10M for it.
The point is that if the government takes over your property today, they have to pay fair market values, unlike in the past when the PNC were only obligated to pay 1939 values.
Even though the old law is now changed, there needs to be a constitutional guarantee that no simple parliamentary majority, in fact no majority at all, should overturn the provision that now provides for fair market compensation for properties compulsorily acquired.

Django posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Django posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Django posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Django posted:

Wha Burnham thief ?

He thief Hope Estate from Amin Sankar.

Suh who own Hope Estate ?

Re-sold to the state.  Like how he Tek Letter T estate from Sophia Mustard and re-sell it to Resaul Maraj.

Who sold it Viola ?

It had to be sold when Forbes was still alive.  One of Resaul sons used to run it he was popular with the ladies in the area.  He had fancy sports cars parked up near to the big mansion that Ms. mustard lived in.  One day he was speeding along on the MAhaicony road and he crashed and died.  

Well you guessing.

Hope Estate and Fredrick Mahaica property was confiscated by Burnham which became State property,never heard about any selling of the properties.

I never said that Hope sold.  Letter T estate and Belfield were sold.  Kissoon Dyal was the owner of Belfield estate.

There is NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING in the FK piece about Burnham acquiring any personal property from the Kissoon/Sankars

ms. Bibi Haniffa, where de hell did you hone your propaganda chops . . . evenings in Robb street taking classes under Rohee?

smfh

ronan posted:

There is NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING in the FK piece about Burnham acquiring any personal property from the Kissoon/Sankars

ms, Bibi Haniffa, where de hell did you hone your propaganda chops . . . evenings in Robb street taking classes under Rohee?

smfh

Forbes was a smart guy.  Never put anything in his name.  It was when the properties were sold that no one knew where the money went.  Perhaps Switzerland?  And London?

Bibi,

The writer of the article was asking why the PPP didn't return the properties confiscated to the owners,that would have been the correct thing to do.

What do you think ?

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Django posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Django posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Django posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Django posted:

Wha Burnham thief ?

He thief Hope Estate from Amin Sankar.

Suh who own Hope Estate ?

Re-sold to the state.  Like how he Tek Letter T estate from Sophia Mustard and re-sell it to Resaul Maraj.

Who sold it Viola ?

It had to be sold when Forbes was still alive.  One of Resaul sons used to run it he was popular with the ladies in the area.  He had fancy sports cars parked up near to the big mansion that Ms. mustard lived in.  One day he was speeding along on the MAhaicony road and he crashed and died.  

Well you guessing.

Hope Estate and Fredrick Mahaica property was confiscated by Burnham which became State property,never heard about any selling of the properties.

I never said that Hope sold.  Letter T estate and Belfield were sold.  Kissoon Dyal was the owner of Belfield estate.

You joking right !!!

re-read the conversation.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

ronan posted:

There is NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING in the FK piece about Burnham acquiring any personal property from the Kissoon/Sankars

ms, Bibi Haniffa, where de hell did you hone your propaganda chops . . . evenings in Robb street taking classes under Rohee?

smfh

Forbes was a smart guy.  Never put anything in his name.  It was when the properties were sold that no one knew where the money went.  Perhaps Switzerland?  And London?

Sounds like heresay and it's confusing.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

ronan posted:

There is NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING in the FK Peeping Tom piece about Burnham acquiring any personal property from the Kissoon/Sankars

ms, Bibi Haniffa, where de hell did you hone your propaganda chops . . . evenings in Robb street taking classes under Rohee?

smfh

Forbes was a smart guy.  Never put anything in his name.  It was when the properties were sold that no one knew where the money went.  Perhaps Switzerland?  And London?

yeah . . . when all else fails and you stand EXPOSED as a risible con [wo]man, roll out the cynical old PPP chestnut about Forbes being one of the richest men in the world

uh huh

underpinning all this fraudulence is Freedom House's firm conviction that there is NO LIE TOO BIG for the PPP faithful to swallow whole

Forbes Burnham was a son of a bitch. The undignified manner in which he was buried is fitting for who he was before he died. It is good that he did not live as long as Mugabe because he wouldn't have had the decency like Mugabe to step down.

ksazma posted:

Forbes Burnham was a son of a bitch. The undignified manner in which he was buried is fitting for who he was before he died. It is good that he did not live as long as Mugabe because he wouldn't have had the decency like Mugabe to step down.

yadda yadda yadda . . . find somewhere else for yuh gratuitous, diverting  cuss down

grown people trying to have a conversation here

ronan posted:

ksazma posted:

Forbes Burnham was a son of a bitch. The undignified manner in which he was buried is fitting for who he was before he died. It is good that he did not live as long as Mugabe because he wouldn't have had the decency like Mugabe to step down.

yadda yadda yadda . . . find somewhere else for yuh gratuitous, diverting  cuss down

grown people trying to have a conversation here

Bai, yuh don't have de discipline to look away from things that yuh nah interesting in nuh?

ksazma posted:

ronan posted:

ksazma posted:

Forbes Burnham was a son of a bitch. The undignified manner in which he was buried is fitting for who he was before he died. It is good that he did not live as long as Mugabe because he wouldn't have had the decency like Mugabe to step down.

yadda yadda yadda . . . find somewhere else for yuh gratuitous, diverting  cuss down

grown people trying to have a conversation here

Bai, yuh don't have de discipline to look away from things that yuh nah interesting in nuh?

you trying to hijack the thread Nehru style

gwaan dahside with yuh transparent soldiering

ronan posted:

ksazma posted:

ronan posted:

ksazma posted:

Forbes Burnham was a son of a bitch. The undignified manner in which he was buried is fitting for who he was before he died. It is good that he did not live as long as Mugabe because he wouldn't have had the decency like Mugabe to step down.

yadda yadda yadda . . . find somewhere else for yuh gratuitous, diverting  cuss down

grown people trying to have a conversation here

Bai, yuh don't have de discipline to look away from things that yuh nah interesting in nuh?

you trying to hijack the thread Nehru style

gwaan dahside with yuh transparent soldiering

Dude, you are your worst enemy. Until I am told by the owners and administrators of GNI to adjust how I use it, I will make any comment I chose whether it is pertinent or not. 

ksazma posted:

ronan posted:

ksazma posted:

ronan posted:

ksazma posted:

Forbes Burnham was a son of a bitch. The undignified manner in which he was buried is fitting for who he was before he died. It is good that he did not live as long as Mugabe because he wouldn't have had the decency like Mugabe to step down.

yadda yadda yadda . . . find somewhere else for yuh gratuitous, diverting  cuss down

grown people trying to have a conversation here

Bai, yuh don't have de discipline to look away from things that yuh nah interesting in nuh?

you trying to hijack the thread Nehru style

gwaan dahside with yuh transparent soldiering

Dude, you are your worst enemy. Until I am told by the owners and administrators of GNI to adjust how I use it, I will make any comment I chose whether it is pertinent or not. 

who cares . . . whenever you poke your head out with stupidness, i will  be there with a hammer

that's all

ronan posted:

ksazma posted:

 

Dude, you are your worst enemy. Until I am told by the owners and administrators of GNI to adjust how I use it, I will make any comment I chose whether it is pertinent or not. 

who cares . . . whenever you poke your head out with stupidness, i will  be there with a hammer

that's all

So yuh nah gat nothin else fuh do eh?

Oi kaz..ah hear somebidy wanna Whac-A-Mole yarass banna.

cain posted:

Oi kaz..ah hear somebidy wanna Whac-A-Mole yarass banna.

Bai, meh nah lose sleep over people. GNI is entertainment only.  Who want let GNI give then hypertension can try deh. 

Prashad is puzzled. Mrs. kissoon was very good friends with Burnham. I never knew her to be friends with the PPP nor Dr. Jagan.

Prashad wuh the rass you doin chap, you tryin fo derail the fight?

Prashad posted:

Prashad is puzzled. Mrs. kissoon was very good friends with Burnham. I never knew her to be friends with the PPP nor Dr. Jagan.

Viola Harper and Lila Kissoon were friends from teenage years at Bishops High School.

Prashad posted:

Prashad is puzzled. Mrs. kissoon was very good friends with Burnham. I never knew her to be friends with the PPP nor Dr. Jagan.

Ms Kissoon was a big business woman, why would she be endeared to a dedicated communist?