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The people of Guyana will have spoken on the direction of the country in the next 5 years after tomorrow. Whatever the results Guyanese at home and in the Diaspora will take the results as the true choice of Guyanese. As Ralph Ramkarran, one of the former PPP leaders has put it in his Conversation Tree blog

 

Guyanese will vote on Monday for a Government that they wish to conduct the affairs of the nation on their behalf for the next five years. Every registered Guyanese has the right to vote and this right must be protected and respected before and after it is exercised. If the majority of Guyanese collectively choose to return the PPP/C to office, despite the great disappointment this will cause among APNU+AFC supporters, this choice must be accepted peacefully. If Guyanese decide to change their Government and support the APNU+AFC coalition, whatever trepidation PPP/C supporters may feel, their Party having been in power for 22 plus years, Guyanese must equally accept the results peacefully.

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There must be no post-election violence for any reason whatsoever, including for any allegations that any political party is trying to β€˜frustrate the process.’ No such attempt has been made since 1992 and no basis exists to suggest that any such attempt will now be made. Any political party that is guilty of irresponsible behavior, making unprovable or ridiculous allegations for the purpose of excusing violence, or of failing to restrain its supporters, does not deserve sympathy.

 

 

If the PPP/C wins they would have been vindicated for what they campaigned on despite the charges of corruption and cronyism. The people would have forgiven them as a normal price to pay in a democratic society for what it deems as progress.

 

If the APNU-AFC wins they would have won the argument that the PPP/C has not served Guyana well. They have campaigned on exposing cronyism, fraud and incompetence. They also campaigned on moving beyond race voting.

 

I expect the coalition to win tomorrow and the challenge becomes one of governance. The most important driver is looking forward not back. When the PPP/C won in 1992 there were moves afoot for recriminations and pursuing to the hilt all the crimes committed by the previous Administrations. Dr. Jjagan nipped this in the bud; a move similar to that of Nelson Mandela's in South Africa, as the calculation was that it will serve Guyana better without a witch hunt.

 

As the PPP/C supporters ponder a future without its party in government, they would hope that the rule of law would prevail and a sensible course of action pursued for investigating all the deals made under the PPP/C government. The Coalition has two Statesmen at the helm - Granger and Nagamootoo - and as long as they keep the hounds in check Guyana can move on from the elections.

 

There has been a rhetoric of vengeance on social media. I even called for "jail" time for offenders. I say once the coalition takes the reigns of government they will invoke the wisdom of good governance. They would have been elected not just for changing the government but to govern wisely beyond change.

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I agree with the core sentiment that there should not be time wasted in excessive energies on "jail dem".   Of course those majorly responsible for corruption should be held accountable.  But focus must be on developing structures to increase transparencies and minimize corruption and crony awards of contracts.  Those business people who supported the coalition need to understand that there is no quid pro quo.

 

 

However while peace must result, regardless as to which party wins, we must recognize that Guyana is a DIVIDED nation.

 

The PPP will do well even if they don't win.  Why?  Because many Indians, and some Amerindians, are terrified of a PNC led gov't because they are terrified of governance dominated by Africans.  This doesn't necessarily make them racists, or fringe.

 

If APNU AFC loses it will once again convey to African and mixed Guyanese that the electoral process doesn't work for them, and that they remain powerless.  AT some point they will turn to extrajudicial ways of enforcing their relevance.  After every election the PPP promises to deal with this issue, and yet after election election they become even more derisive of this group.

 

So let us not think that, after raising people to such euphoric levels of defeating the PPP you can put the genie in the box if the PPP wins.  After all this is 50% of the population, and not a small fringe group.

 

 

So after the election the NUMBER ONE priority will have to be addressing the sense of exclusion and ethnic panic, because this more than anything else has defined why Guyana has lagged the rest of the Caribbean since the late 70s.

FM
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exclusion and ethnic panic 

 

Caribny, this becomes an issue only if it exists. I ask you this - is the APNU-AFC coalition one to sustain this notion of exclusion and ethnic panic? And in which direction?

 

You would be wise to focus on the goals ahead smartly - good, transparent governance with all the controls put in place under the rule of law; sensible investigative committees to address deals inimical to the growth of Guyana and holding those responsible for it accountable; and laying out how Guyana can move from a largely primary producing economy with little foreign investment and technology transfer for value-added industries and utilizing Guyana's greatest assets; its human capital.

Kari
Originally Posted by ksazma:

"The Coalition has two Statesmen at the helm - Granger and Nagamootoo - and as long as they keep the hounds in check...." Ralph Ramkarran.

 

Who Ramkarran calling hounds?

Kzaaz, that sentence is part of what I wrote.

 

The quotes from Ralph Ramkarran are in italics. Everything else is my writing.

 

Now the word "hounds" is a literary expression to describe the group of people who are on the extremes of the coalition. Every organization has its extremes - even Masjids. Then there are those in the center. Then there are the ones who are aware of everything but only act o those things that are in the best interests. It is not only about what's right but about what's smart.

Kari
Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by ksazma:

"The Coalition has two Statesmen at the helm - Granger and Nagamootoo - and as long as they keep the hounds in check...." Ralph Ramkarran.

 

Who Ramkarran calling hounds?

Kzaaz, that sentence is part of what I wrote.

 

The quotes from Ralph Ramkarran are in italics. Everything else is my writing.

 

Now the word "hounds" is a literary expression to describe the group of people who are on the extremes of the coalition. Every organization has its extremes - even Masjids. Then there are those in the center. Then there are the ones who are aware of everything but only act o those things that are in the best interests. It is not only about what's right but about what's smart.

My apologies to Ralph Ramkarran then.

FM
Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by ksazma:

"The Coalition has two Statesmen at the helm - Granger and Nagamootoo - and as long as they keep the hounds in check...." Ralph Ramkarran.

 

Who Ramkarran calling hounds?

Kzaaz, that sentence is part of what I wrote.

 

The quotes from Ralph Ramkarran are in italics. Everything else is my writing.

 

Now the word "hounds" is a literary expression to describe the group of people who are on the extremes of the coalition. Every organization has its extremes - even Masjids. Then there are those in the center. Then there are the ones who are aware of everything but only act o those things that are in the best interests. It is not only about what's right but about what's smart.

  And rest assured those PNC "hounds" who relish the return of the Burnham era, yes those who to this day still sing his praises, will be kept in check.

 

The ones who might not be kept in check are those most closely connected to the grass roots, who will demand and expect quick results from years of PPP neglect.  I speak especially of Linden and Georgetown.

 

APNU AFC will have to have quick deliverables to those municipalities and to  rice farmers and the sugar industry.  As well as on the "Chinese problem", and eco damage in the interior. 

 

 

Honey moons in coalitions don't last that long and LGE will be coming ASAP.

 

This is why excessive time on "jail dem" will be counter productive.  Jail high profile people like Bobby and Jagdeo.  Not some mid level bureaucrat.

FM
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Originally Posted by Kari:

The people of Guyana will have spoken on the direction of the country in the next 5 years after tomorrow.

 

* You are wrong karimullah! The Guyanese people would not have spoken on the direction of the country the next 5 years. What the Guyanese people, the (50+1)% who voted for the winner, would have done is decide on who will decide the issues in Guyana the next 5 years. That party is the PPP/C---(50+1)% of voters would have agreed that Ramotar and the wealthy elites in his circle will call the shots the next 5 years and decide the issues.

 

Rev

FM
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Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

Honey moons in coalitions don't last that long .......

 

Nagamootoo better pay attention.

bHAI LIKE YOU LOSING CONFIDENCE??

First Nagamootoo left the PPP because they did not chose him to lead the party. So he went to the AFC and when he saw that the AFC will not stand a chance running on their own at this year's elections decided to again run to the place where he feels he will satisfy his personal goals. In his own words; "Newly-selected Prime Ministerial candidate of the new Opposition coalition, Moses Nagamootoo on Saturday said if the ruling People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) had not rejected him as their Presidential Candidate in 2011, he would not have been running against them today". Guyana Times.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

Honey moons in coalitions don't last that long .......

 

Nagamootoo better pay attention.

Nagamootoo himself will bring an end to that coalition if he feels that the APNU is wasting his time, or attempting to renege its deal with him.

The perfect excuse for the PNC to pull a UF style stunt, then all gone for channa.

FM
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

Honey moons in coalitions don't last that long .......

 

Nagamootoo better pay attention.

bHAI LIKE YOU LOSING CONFIDENCE??

First Nagamootoo left the PPP because they did not chose him to lead the party. So he went to the AFC and when he saw that the AFC will not stand a chance running on their own at this year's elections decided to again run to the place where he feels he will satisfy his personal goals. In his own words; "Newly-selected Prime Ministerial candidate of the new Opposition coalition, Moses Nagamootoo on Saturday said if the ruling People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) had not rejected him as their Presidential Candidate in 2011, he would not have been running against them today". Guyana Times.

If this is true, it tells a lot about this Guy Nagamootoo. Can you TRUST such a fellow.??

Nehru
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

Honey moons in coalitions don't last that long .......

 

Nagamootoo better pay attention.

Nagamootoo himself will bring an end to that coalition if he feels that the APNU is wasting his time, or attempting to renege its deal with him.

Your bill of goods isn't fooling anyone bai. Well, maybe it is fooling them AFC bais.

FM
Originally Posted by ksazma:
??

First Nagamootoo left the PPP because they did not chose him to lead the party.

Well APNU didn't allow him to be presidential candidate either and yet he remains in the coalition.

 

GECOM tells us that by Wednesday morning we will get the official results.  With social media being as active as it is, I suspect this will be quicker as the statements of poll will be available and results can be deemed from that.  So maybe even by very late Monday or early Tuesday we will get indications. 

 

Region 3 will be important as it is on par with region 6 as a source of votes.  Region 4 as it will indicate whether APNU did get its base out in large numbers.

FM
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

Nagamootoo himself will bring an end to that coalition if he feels that the APNU is wasting his time, or attempting to renege its deal with him.

Your bill of goods isn't fooling anyone bai. Well, maybe it is fooling them AFC bais.

1.  If APNU AFC wins then Granger will give Nagamootoo his 12 seats as he will not begin his office with court cases and injunctions.  In addition LGE will be called and the last thing he will want is an AFC PPP alliance taking away many city council seats from the PNC in G/town.

 

2. If Nagamootoo doesn't take advantage of the powers that he will have that will NOT be the PNCs fault.

 

Sorry if that upsets your apaan jhat barrel but these are the facts.  APNU AFC is a multi ethnic coalition.  The PPP remains the old style mono racial regime.

FM
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Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

Honey moons in coalitions don't last that long .......

 

Nagamootoo better pay attention.

bHAI LIKE YOU LOSING CONFIDENCE??

First Nagamootoo left the PPP because they did not chose him to lead the party. So he went to the AFC and when he saw that the AFC will not stand a chance running on their own at this year's elections decided to again run to the place where he feels he will satisfy his personal goals. In his own words; "Newly-selected Prime Ministerial candidate of the new Opposition coalition, Moses Nagamootoo on Saturday said if the ruling People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) had not rejected him as their Presidential Candidate in 2011, he would not have been running against them today". Guyana Times.

Kazma..you believe this piece from a News Media owned by

the friend of Jaggy,most of what is written in that media have

to taken with a grain of salt.

Django

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