PPP/C to fight any attempt to rig polls – Jagdeo

Jagdeo public cry about rigging is only adding fuel to the fire. The fire has started and he didn't make any attempt to extinguished it. What action, if any would he take? I said on Quantum's thread that rigging is a claim that cannot be verified. In 2015 the PPP claimed that the election was rigged. They went to court and ask for a recount. Whether they got a recount or not, they return as (opposition) to parliament and validate Granger's presidency. Therefore, they were NO rigged elections in 2015. 

The buck has to stop somewhere. Isn't it?

WITH BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS!!  NO EFFORT WILL BE TOO MUCH TO STOP AND EXPOSE THE RIGGERS!! WE CANNOT TRUST CARTER ANYMORE. THE LAST TIME HE SAID HE HAD BELLY WUK AND LEAVE THE PNC TO RIG AND FRIG!!!!

Prince posted:

Jagdeo public cry about rigging is only adding fuel to the fire. The fire has started and he didn't make any attempt to extinguished it. What action, if any would he take? I said on Quantum's thread that rigging is a claim that cannot be verified. In 2015 the PPP claimed that the election was rigged. They went to court and ask for a recount. Whether they got a recount or not, they return as (opposition) to parliament and validate Granger's presidency. Therefore, they were NO rigged elections in 2015. 

The buck has to stop somewhere. Isn't it?

“We have an open society. Dictatorship cannot strive in open societies …,” he said, before adding that despite the PPP/C’s concerns, it is treating the government as “legal now and legitimate.”

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The PPP now recognise the Coalition Gov't as ligit,different take form the the beginning when they lost  the 2015 elections.

Django posted:

Prince posted:

Jagdeo public cry about rigging is only adding fuel to the fire. The fire has started and he didn't make any attempt to extinguished it. What action, if any would he take? I said on Quantum's thread that rigging is a claim that cannot be verified. In 2015 the PPP claimed that the election was rigged. They went to court and ask for a recount. Whether they got a recount or not, they return as (opposition) to parliament and validate Granger's presidency. Therefore, they were NO rigged elections in 2015. 

The buck has to stop somewhere. Isn't it?

“We have an open society. Dictatorship cannot strive in open societies …,” he said, before adding that despite the PPP/C’s concerns, it is treating the government as “legal now and legitimate.”

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The PPP now recognise the Coalition Gov't as ligit,different take form the the beginning when they lost  the 2015 elections.

Get your facts correct . PPP did not lost the 2015 election. 

Until you can justify why PPP was denied a recount and the claims at the court was challenge by Gecom, don’t bring that BS anymore. 

PPP ignore their supporters for 23 years, for this reason, Indians don’t give a rat ass about PPP anymore.

the PPP has to be a diverse party from leadership, unless wholesale changes is make from the top .. they are useless for Guyana. 

Nigel with the presidential candidate for PPP, would see protest everyday at Gecom and the court. 

With Jagdeo pushing himself is a lost for all Indians. 

Dave, you and Nehru need to pay close attention to where the buck stops. If the PPP was that powerful to maintain democracy and not give in to an illegitimate government, why have they take more aggressive action to stop it? They legitimized the coalition government when they return to parliament and took up their position on the opposition side. 

Prince, you know why the PPP lost, it is because yuh Namakaram Crabdaag Uncle sold his soul, Family and everything he had for a FREE HOUSE and SUV!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We seem to forget how the 1992 PPP Leadership did nothing re the allegations of the PNC rigging the elections between 1964 to 1992.  Most likely they will do the same again. Nothing!

Mits, what could they have done to those ANIMALS?? You yourself said the ABC Countries is on the CRIMINAL PNC side.

Nehru posted:

Mits, what could they have done to those ANIMALS?? You yourself said the ABC Countries is on the CRIMINAL PNC side.

Plus the oil companies.  Like Dave said: "PPP ignore their supporters for 23 years, for this reason, Indians don’t give a rat ass about PPP anymore."

Let's don't forget how the PPP provided a sanctuary to the PNC riggers; Lamumba, Kwame, Hamilton, Kit Nastimento, Norman Unclean, Edgehill, Witica, Bynoe…. just to name a few.

Nehru posted:

WITH BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS!!  NO EFFORT WILL BE TOO MUCH TO STOP AND EXPOSE THE RIGGERS!! WE CANNOT TRUST CARTER ANYMORE. THE LAST TIME HE SAID HE HAD BELLY WUK AND LEAVE THE PNC TO RIG AND FRIG!!!!

Which coolie gon tek to the street and fight with blood sweat and tears if the election is rigged?...jus asking. 

VishMahabir posted:

Nehru posted:

WITH BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS!!  NO EFFORT WILL BE TOO MUCH TO STOP AND EXPOSE THE RIGGERS!! WE CANNOT TRUST CARTER ANYMORE. THE LAST TIME HE SAID HE HAD BELLY WUK AND LEAVE THE PNC TO RIG AND FRIG!!!!

Which coolie gon tek to the street and fight with blood sweat and tears if the election is rigged?...jus asking. 

Well, they can be enslaved forever, it is their choice.

Mits, bringing Afros into the PPP was a great move for Guyana BUT the PNC is all about RACE and Party Paramountcy.

Prince posted:

Dave, you and Nehru need to pay close attention to where the buck stops. If the PPP was that powerful to maintain democracy and not give in to an illegitimate government, why have they take more aggressive action to stop it? They legitimized the coalition government when they return to parliament and took up their position on the opposition side. 

Prince, the  Indians in Guyana now are not aggressive. They don’t have time to protest all day like their Afro brothers and sisters... cause they have a family. 

The PNC will gather their dogs of war from Sophia, Buxton, Tiger Bag, Alboystown to protest, after the protest they will loot the Indians stores as their payments. 

The current leadership of the PPP  took advantage of the grass root and kick them to the curb after 1992. 

They believe power was given to them for life  by building dancehall stadium, roads, street lights in Afro neighbourhood. 

The current crop of PPP thief so much, they are set for life and their great grand children, they have nothing to loss by going to parliament and walk out, pretending they representing Indians.. cause they still uplifting their pay. 

PPP is in my blood, but they need to be call out. Jagdeo pushing himself cause he likes POWER, if he does get the presidential candidate, his buddy Infart Ali will be, he is Jagdeo bitch. 

As a PPP supporter who was jail and had water soak our cell all night, personal vehicle torch for flying PPP flag, we were ignore by PPP top brass after 1992.

i pay $50,000 G bribe and donate a TV to home affairs !?$& to get my gun licence although Ramotar use to visit my parents home when PPP was in the opposition. 

For reasons above, Many like myself have turn our backs against them. 

VishMahabir posted:

Nehru posted:

WITH BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS!!  NO EFFORT WILL BE TOO MUCH TO STOP AND EXPOSE THE RIGGERS!! WE CANNOT TRUST CARTER ANYMORE. THE LAST TIME HE SAID HE HAD BELLY WUK AND LEAVE THE PNC TO RIG AND FRIG!!!!

Which coolie gon tek to the street and fight with blood sweat and tears if the election is rigged?...jus asking. 

Very good question. No coolie man would do that .

Nehru posted:

Mits, bringing Afros into the PPP was a great move for Guyana BUT the PNC is all about RACE and Party Paramountcy.

With Jagdeo pushing himself as the irreplaceable leader, it's a lost for the PPP. He sounds very desperate. After 23 years, the majority of Indians are still poor.

Django posted:

Prince posted:

Jagdeo public cry about rigging is only adding fuel to the fire. The fire has started and he didn't make any attempt to extinguished it. What action, if any would he take? I said on Quantum's thread that rigging is a claim that cannot be verified. In 2015 the PPP claimed that the election was rigged. They went to court and ask for a recount. Whether they got a recount or not, they return as (opposition) to parliament and validate Granger's presidency. Therefore, they were NO rigged elections in 2015. 

The buck has to stop somewhere. Isn't it?

“We have an open society. Dictatorship cannot strive in open societies …,” he said, before adding that despite the PPP/C’s concerns, it is treating the government as “legal now and legitimate.”

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The PPP now recognise the Coalition Gov't as ligit,different take form the the beginning when they lost  the 2015 elections.

Reread the part that you highlighted. The operative word is “treating”.

Mitwah posted:

Nehru posted:

Mits, bringing Afros into the PPP was a great move for Guyana BUT the PNC is all about RACE and Party Paramountcy.

With Jagdeo pushing himself as the irreplaceable leader, it's a lost for the PPP. He sounds very desperate. After 23 years, the majority of Indians are still poor.

Jagdeo is behaving like a virgin. He needs to give in, take the buggering and get out. He is not the savior of the PPP and coolie people as he so believes.                                                                                     

Zed posted:

Django posted:

Prince posted:

Jagdeo public cry about rigging is only adding fuel to the fire. The fire has started and he didn't make any attempt to extinguished it. What action, if any would he take? I said on Quantum's thread that rigging is a claim that cannot be verified. In 2015 the PPP claimed that the election was rigged. They went to court and ask for a recount. Whether they got a recount or not, they return as (opposition) to parliament and validate Granger's presidency. Therefore, they were NO rigged elections in 2015. 

The buck has to stop somewhere. Isn't it?

“We have an open society. Dictatorship cannot strive in open societies …,” he said, before adding that despite the PPP/C’s concerns, it is treating the government as “legal now and legitimate.”

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The PPP now recognise the Coalition Gov't as ligit,different take form the the beginning when they lost  the 2015 elections.

Reread the part that you highlighted. The operative word is “treating”.

and your point?

Prince posted:

Mitwah posted:

Nehru posted:

Mits, bringing Afros into the PPP was a great move for Guyana BUT the PNC is all about RACE and Party Paramountcy.

With Jagdeo pushing himself as the irreplaceable leader, it's a lost for the PPP. He sounds very desperate. After 23 years, the majority of Indians are still poor.

Jagdeo is behaving like a virgin. He needs to give in, take the buggering and get out. He is not the savior of the PPP and coolie people as he so believes.                                                                                     

Bhai Nehru is too focused on Grandpa Moses. He should turn his attention the PPP grassroots and listen to their concerns and how they feel being ignored by Jagdeo and his Sidekicks. 

Dave posted:

Django posted:

Prince posted:

Jagdeo public cry about rigging is only adding fuel to the fire. The fire has started and he didn't make any attempt to extinguished it. What action, if any would he take? I said on Quantum's thread that rigging is a claim that cannot be verified. In 2015 the PPP claimed that the election was rigged. They went to court and ask for a recount. Whether they got a recount or not, they return as (opposition) to parliament and validate Granger's presidency. Therefore, they were NO rigged elections in 2015. 

The buck has to stop somewhere. Isn't it?

“We have an open society. Dictatorship cannot strive in open societies …,” he said, before adding that despite the PPP/C’s concerns, it is treating the government as “legal now and legitimate.”

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The PPP now recognise the Coalition Gov't as ligit,different take form the the beginning when they lost  the 2015 elections.

Get your facts correct . PPP did not lost the 2015 election. 

Until you can justify why PPP was denied a recount and the claims at the court was challenge by Gecom, don’t bring that BS anymore. 

Refresh your memory,see attachment.

Nehru posted:

Mits, bringing Afros into the PPP was a great move for Guyana BUT the PNC is all about RACE and Party Paramountcy.

Bringing Afro Into PPP would balance the military force display by PNC.

If a Indian (PPP) protesting, a Blackman would walk up and rip her banner with the Indian males standing helplessly. 

That same Blackman dare not walk up to another Blackman to rip the banner. 

Think outside the box Nehru.. 

Dave Bhai, what outside Box, what did i say wrong or what you are not agreeing with?

Dave posted:

PPP ignore their supporters for 23 years, for this reason, Indians don’t give a rat ass about PPP anymore.

the PPP has to be a diverse party from leadership, unless wholesale changes is make from the top .. they are useless for Guyana. 

Nigel with the presidential candidate for PPP, would see protest everyday at Gecom and the court. 

With Jagdeo pushing himself is a lost for all Indians. 

 

Do you really and truly believe that the PPP ignored their supporters for 23 years and Indians don’t give a rats ass about the PPP anymore?

Dave posted:

VishMahabir posted:

Nehru posted:

WITH BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS!!  NO EFFORT WILL BE TOO MUCH TO STOP AND EXPOSE THE RIGGERS!! WE CANNOT TRUST CARTER ANYMORE. THE LAST TIME HE SAID HE HAD BELLY WUK AND LEAVE THE PNC TO RIG AND FRIG!!!!

Which coolie gon tek to the street and fight with blood sweat and tears if the election is rigged?...jus asking. 

Very good question. No coolie man would do that .

This time na langtime.  Indians are much more educated and prepared than in 1964 and 2015.  

Bibi, I warned Jagdeo and the PPP of their attitudes, Actions and behavior AND I predicted that because of the above they ran the risk of being in the opposition. They did not listen and the rest is history.

Who ate and drink most of the Beers and Fry Chicken at their Rallies?  Which Communities mostly got new roads, water, Kites, Bicycle and visits???

Prince posted:

Dave, you and Nehru need to pay close attention to where the buck stops. If the PPP was that powerful to maintain democracy and not give in to an illegitimate government, why haven't they take more aggressive action to stop it? They legitimized the coalition government when they return to parliament and took up their position on the opposition side. 

You think they should burn, loot and rape too?

The ones that give a rat's ass about the PPP are the senior citizens who think Jagdeo will save them from being murder and rape by Black men. But guess what? The senior citizens are living among the murderers and rapists of their own kind. 

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Dave posted:

VishMahabir posted:

Nehru posted:

WITH BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS!!  NO EFFORT WILL BE TOO MUCH TO STOP AND EXPOSE THE RIGGERS!! WE CANNOT TRUST CARTER ANYMORE. THE LAST TIME HE SAID HE HAD BELLY WUK AND LEAVE THE PNC TO RIG AND FRIG!!!!

Which coolie gon tek to the street and fight with blood sweat and tears if the election is rigged?...jus asking. 

Very good question. No coolie man would do that .

This time na langtime.  Indians are much more educated and prepared than in 1964 and 2015.  

Agree Bibi...

educated - yes, by not putting themselves in harm way or risk their lives.

Prepared - Yes... stay indoor and be protected.

I am still waiting to see the Indian protesters standing at GECOM office or the court protesting by the thousands.

PNC close down Guysuco, I was hoping to see marches from Berbice to GT .. closing down the country. 

Dave posted:

Prince posted:

Dave, you and Nehru need to pay close attention to where the buck stops. If the PPP was that powerful to maintain democracy and not give in to an illegitimate government, why have they take more aggressive action to stop it? They legitimized the coalition government when they return to parliament and took up their position on the opposition side. 

Prince, the  Indians in Guyana now are not aggressive. They don’t have time to protest all day like their Afro brothers and sisters... cause they have a family. 

The PNC will gather their dogs of war from Sophia, Buxton, Tiger Bag, Alboystown to protest, after the protest they will loot the Indians stores as their payments. 

The current leadership of the PPP  took advantage of the grass root and kick them to the curb after 1992. 

They believe power was given to them for life  by building dancehall stadium, roads, street lights in Afro neighbourhood. 

The current crop of PPP thief so much, they are set for life and their great grand children, they have nothing to loss by going to parliament and walk out, pretending they representing Indians.. cause they still uplifting their pay. 

PPP is in my blood, but they need to be call out. Jagdeo pushing himself cause he likes POWER, if he does get the presidential candidate, his buddy Infart Ali will be, he is Jagdeo bitch. 

As a PPP supporter who was jail and had water soak our cell all night, personal vehicle torch for flying PPP flag, we were ignore by PPP top brass after 1992.

i pay $50,000 G bribe and donate a TV to home affairs !?$& to get my gun licence although Ramotar use to visit my parents home when PPP was in the opposition. 

For reasons above, Many like myself have turn our backs against them. 

This sounds like a good assessment of the situation under the PPP...though I would not know.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Dave posted:

VishMahabir posted:

Nehru posted:

WITH BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS!!  NO EFFORT WILL BE TOO MUCH TO STOP AND EXPOSE THE RIGGERS!! WE CANNOT TRUST CARTER ANYMORE. THE LAST TIME HE SAID HE HAD BELLY WUK AND LEAVE THE PNC TO RIG AND FRIG!!!!

Which coolie gon tek to the street and fight with blood sweat and tears if the election is rigged?...jus asking. 

Very good question. No coolie man would do that .

This time na langtime.  Indians are much more educated and prepared than in 1964 and 2015.  

Really??    they might be more educated and aware because of the mass media...but again, if this election is rigged in 2020, or perceived to be...what exactly is the PPP prepared to do to correct the problem and create a hopeful environment for their hapless supporters?

The only person in the PPP who seems to have some balls is jagdeo...but the party of leaders seems useless...what exactly do YOU see in the PPP to be hopeful after 2020....given all we now know about corruption, abuse of power, etc, etc.

VishMahabir posted:

Nehru posted:

WITH BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS!!  NO EFFORT WILL BE TOO MUCH TO STOP AND EXPOSE THE RIGGERS!! WE CANNOT TRUST CARTER ANYMORE. THE LAST TIME HE SAID HE HAD BELLY WUK AND LEAVE THE PNC TO RIG AND FRIG!!!!

Which coolie gon tek to the street and fight with blood sweat and tears if the election is rigged?...jus asking. 

The ones who are suggesting more confrontational approach are in the us and Canada where they are safe. They do not and will not have to deal with things everyday. They are just blowing her air.

Nehru posted:

Bibi, I warned Jagdeo and the PPP of their attitudes, Actions and behavior AND I predicted that because of the above they ran the risk of being in the opposition. They did not listen and the rest is history.

 

Who ate and drink most of the Beers and Fry Chicken at their Rallies?  Which Communities mostly got new roads, water, Kites, Bicycle and visits???

Nehru, I see you getting smarter with age. Bibi comment relates to you about coolie smartness. But don't let my mother words come to pass when she said "coolie teck them smartness and put it in them batty when it comes to dealing with Blackman". Strength matter.  All you enjoy, I got to go. 

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Dave posted:

VishMahabir posted:

Nehru posted:

WITH BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS!!  NO EFFORT WILL BE TOO MUCH TO STOP AND EXPOSE THE RIGGERS!! WE CANNOT TRUST CARTER ANYMORE. THE LAST TIME HE SAID HE HAD BELLY WUK AND LEAVE THE PNC TO RIG AND FRIG!!!!

Which coolie gon tek to the street and fight with blood sweat and tears if the election is rigged?...jus asking. 

Very good question. No coolie man would do that .

This time na langtime.  Indians are much more educated and prepared than in 1964 and 2015.  

Bibi, from my observations, discussions with people in the PPP and what occurs everyday in Guyana, I do not think that statements such as you made are not a true reflection or reality. The ppp understands this and it might dictate the nature of their political actions now and in the future.

VishMahabir posted:

Dave posted:

Prince posted:

Dave, you and Nehru need to pay close attention to where the buck stops. If the PPP was that powerful to maintain democracy and not give in to an illegitimate government, why have they take more aggressive action to stop it? They legitimized the coalition government when they return to parliament and took up their position on the opposition side. 

Prince, the  Indians in Guyana now are not aggressive. They don’t have time to protest all day like their Afro brothers and sisters... cause they have a family. 

The PNC will gather their dogs of war from Sophia, Buxton, Tiger Bag, Alboystown to protest, after the protest they will loot the Indians stores as their payments. 

The current leadership of the PPP  took advantage of the grass root and kick them to the curb after 1992. 

They believe power was given to them for life  by building dancehall stadium, roads, street lights in Afro neighbourhood. 

The current crop of PPP thief so much, they are set for life and their great grand children, they have nothing to loss by going to parliament and walk out, pretending they representing Indians.. cause they still uplifting their pay. 

PPP is in my blood, but they need to be call out. Jagdeo pushing himself cause he likes POWER, if he does get the presidential candidate, his buddy Infart Ali will be, he is Jagdeo bitch. 

As a PPP supporter who was jail and had water soak our cell all night, personal vehicle torch for flying PPP flag, we were ignore by PPP top brass after 1992.

i pay $50,000 G bribe and donate a TV to home affairs !?$& to get my gun licence although Ramotar use to visit my parents home when PPP was in the opposition. 

For reasons above, Many like myself have turn our backs against them. 

This sounds like a good assessment of the situation under the PPP...though I would not know.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Dave posted:

VishMahabir posted:

Nehru posted:

WITH BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS!!  NO EFFORT WILL BE TOO MUCH TO STOP AND EXPOSE THE RIGGERS!! WE CANNOT TRUST CARTER ANYMORE. THE LAST TIME HE SAID HE HAD BELLY WUK AND LEAVE THE PNC TO RIG AND FRIG!!!!

Which coolie gon tek to the street and fight with blood sweat and tears if the election is rigged?...jus asking. 

Very good question. No coolie man would do that .

This time na langtime.  Indians are much more educated and prepared than in 1964 and 2015.  

Really??    they might be more educated and aware because of the mass media...but again, if this election is rigged in 2020, or perceived to be...what exactly is the PPP prepared to do to correct the problem and create a hopeful environment for their hapless supporters?

The only person in the PPP who seems to have some balls is jagdeo...but the party of leaders seems useless...what exactly do YOU see in the PPP to be hopeful after 2020....given all we now know about corruption, abuse of power, etc, etc.

There are a few in the party who might be useless but people are crying out that they are the true Jaganites so left them deh.  I would have kicked them all to the curb and reform the party with some young boys and girls who have guts.

The Rumsucker who was brandishing gun and beating people for their wives must be the first FOOL to go!!!!

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Dave posted:

VishMahabir posted:

Nehru posted:

WITH BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS!!  NO EFFORT WILL BE TOO MUCH TO STOP AND EXPOSE THE RIGGERS!! WE CANNOT TRUST CARTER ANYMORE. THE LAST TIME HE SAID HE HAD BELLY WUK AND LEAVE THE PNC TO RIG AND FRIG!!!!

Which coolie gon tek to the street and fight with blood sweat and tears if the election is rigged?...jus asking. 

Very good question. No coolie man would do that .

This time na langtime.  Indians are much more educated and prepared than in 1964 and 2015.  

Really, how does that increase or decrease their chances against the Pnc.  Maybe, it’s their education that made them not be ppp slaves?

Prince posted:

Mitwah posted:

Nehru posted:

Mits, bringing Afros into the PPP was a great move for Guyana BUT the PNC is all about RACE and Party Paramountcy.

With Jagdeo pushing himself as the irreplaceable leader, it's a lost for the PPP. He sounds very desperate. After 23 years, the majority of Indians are still poor.

Jagdeo is behaving like a virgin. He needs to give in, take the buggering and get out. He is not the savior of the PPP and coolie people as he so believes.                                                                                     

Well, at least he is still there while some are abroad safe and trying  to be Monday quarterbacks.

Many in Guyana see him as the saviour for both. Ask why is the PNC setting up to rig the next elections. Is it because they think that the PPP has no chance of winning with him at the helm? I really do not think so. 

Having said the above, I think that the CCJ will rule against Richardson and that there will be a a new PPP-Civic candidate in 2020.

I find it interesting that many here on GNI are saying that Jagdeo is holding the party hostage when the people who are preventing reform get a free pass.  It’s not that easy to kick out those old Jagan marxists.  They have a following and the PPP cannot risk dividing the party at this time.

Coolie weakness passed on to the young generation. It's heredity. Stop campaigning on nonsense, Bibi. I wish I have time to set you straight.