It's amazing how the pomp and celebration, LGE elections was not held since 1994.Three years five months of the the current gov't, two LGE elections held, which gov't is more democratic ?

The world is watching alyuh.

ronan posted:

when did 3 out of 15 constituencies equal "several"?

And why are they telling people that Campbelville was ever a PNC stronghold.

The PPP won in majority Indo parts of GT.  Those areas went over to the AFC in 2015 and have now returned home.

The PPP won only 25% of the GT vote.

yuji22 posted:

 Onwards we go, AFC is dead. 

When you were hiding from PNC black women after the 2015 election I was already saying this.  Nagamootoo didn't deliver.

yuji22 posted:

PPP received 54,000 more vote than AFC PNC in 2018 LGE. 

Do you know the difference between the national election and LGE.  If you do please tell us.  Do you know that the votes on the Corentyne affect no one in GT?

yuji22 posted:

We shall see. The USA wants to see a stable Guyana. No hanky panky will happen in 2020. 

PPP will phatkay the AFC PNC in 2020. 

Carib G was 1000 percent correct. The party which motivates their base wins. 

Continue dreaming ! It is public knowledge that rigging and cheating are permanent features in the collective mindset of the incompetent/dunce PNC !!

caribny posted:

yuji22 posted:

PPP received 54,000 more vote than AFC PNC in 2018 LGE. 

Do you know the difference between the national election and LGE.  If you do please tell us.  Do you know that the votes on the Corentyne affect no one in GT?

I doubt he does.  I see all the hype about these LGE, far cry from the National.  However, the PPP recapturing from the AFC is notable!   PNC rig machine already getting in gear.  

Keffer posted:

yuji22 posted:

We shall see. The USA wants to see a stable Guyana. No hanky panky will happen in 2020. 

PPP will phatkay the AFC PNC in 2020. 

Carib G was 1000 percent correct. The party which motivates their base wins. 

Continue dreaming ! It is public knowledge that rigging and cheating are permanent features in the collective mindset of the incompetent/dunce PNC !!

I agree, the PNC rig machine already getting into gear.  They don’t intend to relinquish power in 2020 regardless what the people says. 

caribny posted:

yuji22 posted:

PPP received 54,000 more vote than AFC PNC in 2018 LGE. 

Do you know the difference between the national election and LGE.  If you do please tell us.  Do you know that the votes on the Corentyne affect no one in GT?

Regardless of the election status, PPP make inroads into PNC support base .. Buxton is an example and they are not AFC supporters. 

This election allows the main party to recognize their weekness and strength. It certainly builds PPP momentum going into 2020 election.. that’s a BIG plus. 

For The PNC, they will view AFC differently, pressure will be mounted in Congress Place to renegotiate the Agreement and offer AFC less percentage base 

The PPP has an opportunity now to negotiate with AFC, hopefully better sense prevail and PPP be more inclusive. 

Dave posted:

caribny posted:

yuji22 posted:

PPP received 54,000 more vote than AFC PNC in 2018 LGE. 

Do you know the difference between the national election and LGE.  If you do please tell us.  Do you know that the votes on the Corentyne affect no one in GT?

Regardless of the election status, PPP make inroads into PNC support base .. Buxton is an example and they are not AFC supporters. 

This election allows the main party to recognize their weekness and strength. It certainly builds PPP momentum going into 2020 election.. that’s a BIG plus. 

For The PNC, they will view AFC differently, pressure will be mounted in Congress Place to renegotiate the Agreement and offer AFC less percentage base 

The PPP has an opportunity now to negotiate with AFC, hopefully better sense prevail and PPP be more inclusive. 

What is there to negotiate?  That time has passed.  All PPP defectors to the AFC gone back home.  AFC has been gutted.  They are now being smoked and dried!

Baseman posted:

Dave posted:

caribny posted:

yuji22 posted:

PPP received 54,000 more vote than AFC PNC in 2018 LGE. 

Do you know the difference between the national election and LGE.  If you do please tell us.  Do you know that the votes on the Corentyne affect no one in GT?

Regardless of the election status, PPP make inroads into PNC support base .. Buxton is an example and they are not AFC supporters. 

This election allows the main party to recognize their weekness and strength. It certainly builds PPP momentum going into 2020 election.. that’s a BIG plus. 

For The PNC, they will view AFC differently, pressure will be mounted in Congress Place to renegotiate the Agreement and offer AFC less percentage base 

The PPP has an opportunity now to negotiate with AFC, hopefully better sense prevail and PPP be more inclusive. 

What is there to negotiate?  That time has passed.  All PPP defectors to the AFC gone back home.  AFC has been gutted.  They are now being smoked and dried!

the opportunity to reopen the doors to Naga and Ramjattan. 

Baseman posted:

 

What is there to negotiate?  That time has passed.  All PPP defectors to the AFC gone back home.  AFC has been gutted.  They are now being smoked and dried!

A few years ago you were fighting relentlessly for AFC, all the posts are here. Now you're PNC and PPP. You're all over the place like TK. Rolling stones gather no moss.   

Leonora posted:

Baseman posted:

 

What is there to negotiate?  That time has passed.  All PPP defectors to the AFC gone back home.  AFC has been gutted.  They are now being smoked and dried!

A few years ago you were fighting relentlessly for AFC, all the posts are here. Now you're PNC and PPP. You're all over the place like TK. Rolling stones gather no moss.   

What stupidness you talking.  Yes I was with the AFC for about a year and had some issues with them which I stated here umteen Times.  One thing, I was never going to be part of any PNC coalition. I said umteen Times, an independent AFC was the best even if small.   

And if I’m with the AFC, I will back them however, there are many off-record dynamics behind the scenes!

Dave posted:

Baseman posted:

Dave posted:

caribny posted:

 

 

Do you know the difference between the national election and LGE.  If you do please tell us.  Do you know that the votes on the Corentyne affect no one in GT?

Regardless of the election status, PPP make inroads into PNC support base .. Buxton is an example and they are not AFC supporters. 

This election allows the main party to recognize their weekness and strength. It certainly builds PPP momentum going into 2020 election.. that’s a BIG plus. 

For The PNC, they will view AFC differently, pressure will be mounted in Congress Place to renegotiate the Agreement and offer AFC less percentage base 

The PPP has an opportunity now to negotiate with AFC, hopefully better sense prevail and PPP be more inclusive. 

What is there to negotiate?  That time has passed.  All PPP defectors to the AFC gone back home.  AFC has been gutted.  They are now being smoked and dried!

the opportunity to reopen the doors to Naga and Ramjattan. 

So what now, make it more coolie gon mek it win?  The PPP needs to thread new ground, become more innovative and adopt a model of diversity and true inclusiveness than just more of the same.  Their message must reflect this.  No more stale mauby!

Baseman posted:

Dave posted:

Baseman posted:

Dave posted:

caribny posted:

 

 

Do you know the difference between the national election and LGE.  If you do please tell us.  Do you know that the votes on the Corentyne affect no one in GT?

Regardless of the election status, PPP make inroads into PNC support base .. Buxton is an example and they are not AFC supporters. 

This election allows the main party to recognize their weekness and strength. It certainly builds PPP momentum going into 2020 election.. that’s a BIG plus. 

For The PNC, they will view AFC differently, pressure will be mounted in Congress Place to renegotiate the Agreement and offer AFC less percentage base 

The PPP has an opportunity now to negotiate with AFC, hopefully better sense prevail and PPP be more inclusive. 

What is there to negotiate?  That time has passed.  All PPP defectors to the AFC gone back home.  AFC has been gutted.  They are now being smoked and dried!

the opportunity to reopen the doors to Naga and Ramjattan. 

So what now, make it more coolie gon mek it win?  The PPP needs to thread new ground, become more innovative and adopt a model of diversity and true inclusiveness than just more of the same.  Their message must reflect this.  No more stale mauby!

The post above me also say be more inclusive. 

Baseman posted:

   PNC rig machine already getting in gear.  

Maybe the old army folks stole enough so they dont need to go through that aggravation.

But if they haven't...…………..!!!!!

Baseman posted:

 

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What is there to negotiate?  That time has passed.  All PPP defectors to the AFC gone back home.  AFC has been gutted.  They are now being smoked and dried!

The only hope for the PNC is bolstering their base and expanding it to include younger voters.  But their existing cast of characters are too arrogant to allow this.

If you think that corruption is bad it will be nothing now that these guys know that they most likely only have 2 years to steal.

Baseman posted:

 

So what now, make it more coolie gon mek it win?  The PPP needs to thread new ground, become more innovative and adopt a model of diversity and true inclusiveness than just more of the same.  Their message must reflect this.  No more stale mauby!

Not going to happen.  The "straight hairs" will be driven to panic and the rest are too frustrated to bother.  They suffered under the PPP and the PNC in power treats them little better, so they are not going to vote.

The PPP took back the Amerindian vote, another indicator of AFC collapse.

caribny posted:

Baseman posted:

 

So what now, make it more coolie gon mek it win?  The PPP needs to thread new ground, become more innovative and adopt a model of diversity and true inclusiveness than just more of the same.  Their message must reflect this.  No more stale mauby!

Not going to happen.  The "straight hairs" will be driven to panic and the rest are too frustrated to bother.  They suffered under the PPP and the PNC in power treats them little better, so they are not going to vote.

The PPP took back the Amerindian vote, another indicator of AFC collapse.

Hey man, you is a sour puss.  Maybe the PPP can entice straight hairs like that beauty in gray posing up with Jaggy for a photo op.

Baseman posted:

caribny posted:

 

Hey man, you is a sour puss.  Maybe the PPP can entice straight hairs like that beauty in gray posing up with Jaggy for a photo op.

I tell it as it is.  Guyanese are less interested in voting. The PPP knows that the black/mixed will not vote because of their disappointment with the PNC. Jagdeo will pull the same tactics with the Indians/Amerindians as Trump does with working class whites.  He knows his best bet is to take advantage of the fear that both Amerindians and East Indians have towards blacks.

Aside from taking pictures what proof is Jagdeo showing that he has changed. Has he apologized for the fact that the PPP didn't earn the trust of the black/mixed voters in their 23 years of power, and vow to do better next time? No.  Still the same "black man stupid" mentality.

caribny posted:

Baseman posted:

caribny posted:

 

Hey man, you is a sour puss.  Maybe the PPP can entice straight hairs like that beauty in gray posing up with Jaggy for a photo op.

I tell it as it is.  Guyanese are less interested in voting. The PPP knows that the black/mixed will not vote because of their disappointment with the PNC. Jagdeo will pull the same tactics with the Indians/Amerindians as Trump does with working class whites.  He knows his best bet is to take advantage of the fear that both Amerindians and East Indians have towards blacks.

Aside from taking pictures what proof is Jagdeo showing that he has changed. Has he apologized for the fact that the PPP didn't earn the trust of the black/mixed voters in their 23 years of power, and vow to do better next time? No.  Still the same "black man stupid" mentality.

I was actually surprised at the behavior of the PNC.  They know of the fear and apprehension of the other races towards them given their history and they embarked on the same path.  They wanted to be given a chance again, so people did, and what did they do?  Fulfill the self fulfilling prophecy with no help whatsoever!!

Ayuh nah deh down hey!!

Base I told Al YUh so!! Den Baan suh and gun die so!!!!!!!!!! I even offered free lessons on the criminal PNC!!!

Baseman posted:

caribny posted:

Baseman posted:

caribny posted:

 

Hey man, you is a sour puss.  Maybe the PPP can entice straight hairs like that beauty in gray posing up with Jaggy for a photo op.

I tell it as it is.  Guyanese are less interested in voting. The PPP knows that the black/mixed will not vote because of their disappointment with the PNC. Jagdeo will pull the same tactics with the Indians/Amerindians as Trump does with working class whites.  He knows his best bet is to take advantage of the fear that both Amerindians and East Indians have towards blacks.

Aside from taking pictures what proof is Jagdeo showing that he has changed. Has he apologized for the fact that the PPP didn't earn the trust of the black/mixed voters in their 23 years of power, and vow to do better next time? No.  Still the same "black man stupid" mentality.

I was actually surprised at the behavior of the PNC.  They know of the fear and apprehension of the other races towards them given their history and they embarked on the same path.  They wanted to be given a chance again, so people did, and what did they do?  Fulfill the self fulfilling prophecy with no help whatsoever!!

what is the “same path” and this “self fulfilling prophesy” you belching inanely about?

btw, i am unaware that Amerindians “fear” Afro-Guyanese in the way Caribny describes and Baseman is enthusiastically co-signing . . . and i know what i am talking about!

Baseman posted:

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I was actually surprised at the behavior of the PNC.  

Forgive the old guys (both AFC and APNU).  They starved under the PPP because Jagdeo only allowed them crumbs, so they saw this 5 years as a time to "top up".  Ignoring their own base and not mounting an aggressive drive to keep that youth vote just shows that winning in 2020 isn't a priority.

Their greed for a big salary increase, even as they denied even a minimal one to the public servants, was an early warning.  They never recovered from that.

ronan posted:

 

btw, i am unaware that Amerindians “fear” Afro-Guyanese in the way Caribny describes and Baseman is enthusiastically co-signing . . . and i know what i am talking about!

They do.  Insensitive treatment over the years from pork knockers and GDF soldiers, plus the fear of blacks that the UF built after Burnham dumped them.  You will recall the Rupununi rebellion of the 60s.

Some went to the AFC when the UF and GAP collapsed, but now that the AFC has shown its weakness most aren't about the support the PNC.

The fact remains that coast landers have been disrespectful to Amerindians over the generations and the face of the coast lander that they saw most (until the last 20 years or so) has been the Afro Guyanese.  If you haven't heard GDF men boasting about what they did to "buck" women I don't know where you have been hiding.

caribny posted:

ronan posted:

 

btw, i am unaware that Amerindians “fear” Afro-Guyanese in the way Caribny describes and Baseman is enthusiastically co-signing . . . and i know what i am talking about!

They do.  Insensitive treatment over the years from pork knockers and GDF soldiers, plus the fear of blacks that the UF built after Burnham dumped them.  You will recall the Rupununi rebellion of the 60s.

Some went to the AFC when the UF and GAP collapsed, but now that the AFC has shown its weakness most aren't about the support the PNC.

The fact remains that coast landers have been disrespectful to Amerindians over the generations and the face of the coast lander that they saw most (until the last 20 years or so) has been the Afro Guyanese.  If you haven't heard GDF men boasting about what they did to "buck" women I don't know where you have been hiding.

Thank you.  When I referred to the Rupununi rebellion, he referred to me as unpatriotic.  I had two uncles who went and they spoke of uncalled for excesses by the GDF!!

Baseman posted:

 

Thank you.  When I referred to the Rupununi rebellion, he referred to me as unpatriotic.  I had two uncles who went and they spoke of uncalled for excesses by the GDF!!

The Rupununi rebellion was led by traitors who wanted to set up their own feudal republic.  They played on the fears that Amerindians had of coast landers (in those days meaning blacks).   Had they succeeded the Amerindians would have been like their brethren in Brazil.  Look up Amazonian Indians for what happens over there.

But yes the GDF weren't saints and the legacy of their behavior lives on until today.

caribny posted:

Baseman posted:

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I was actually surprised at the behavior of the PNC.  

Forgive the old guys (both AFC and APNU).  They starved under the PPP because Jagdeo only allowed them crumbs, so they saw this 5 years as a time to "top up".  Ignoring their own base and not mounting an aggressive drive to keep that youth vote just shows that winning in 2020 isn't a priority.

Their greed for a big salary increase, even as they denied even a minimal one to the public servants, was an early warning.  They never recovered from that.

Well, that’s disappointingly short termism thinking.  I know I criticize them but I actually expected better from matured leaders who made their mistakes.  You would think they would have learned!!

Baseman posted:

 

Well, that’s disappointingly short termism thinking.  I know I criticize them but I actually expected better from matured leaders who made their mistakes.  You would think they would have learned!!

The problem with being led by people over 70 is that their best days have gone and the future isn't something that they care about.

The big disappointment was that the APNU/AFC didn't introduce a strong cadre of leadership by people in the 40s and 50s.  But they didn't for reasons that I allude to.

caribny posted:

ronan posted:

 

btw, i am unaware that Amerindians “fear” Afro-Guyanese in the way Caribny describes and Baseman is enthusiastically co-signing . . . and i know what i am talking about!

They do.  Insensitive treatment over the years from pork knockers and GDF soldiers, plus the fear of blacks that the UF built after Burnham dumped them.  You will recall the Rupununi rebellion of the 60s.

Some went to the AFC when the UF and GAP collapsed, but now that the AFC has shown its weakness most aren't about the support the PNC.

The fact remains that coast landers have been disrespectful to Amerindians over the generations and the face of the coast lander that they saw most (until the last 20 years or so) has been the Afro Guyanese.  If you haven't heard GDF men boasting about what they did to "buck" women I don't know where you have been hiding.

To lump Amerindian/Afro-Guyanese relations in the same pot with the toxic Indo-Guyanese/Afro-Guyanese history and call it cookup is the analysis of a unserious person

citing “GDF” abuse to justify foolish writings does you no credit

Baseman posted:

Thank you.  When I referred to the Rupununi rebellion, he referred to me as unpatriotic.  I had two uncles who went and they spoke of uncalled for excesses by the GDF!!

after being in witness protection for a week on the other thread, you pick up courage to whimper in defense of the indefensible . . . hoping to hide behind caribny covering fire

what a coward

ronan posted:

Baseman posted:

Thank you.  When I referred to the Rupununi rebellion, he referred to me as unpatriotic.  I had two uncles who went and they spoke of uncalled for excesses by the GDF!!

after being in witness protection for a week on the other thread, you pick up courage to whimper in defense of the indefensible . . . hoping to hide behind caribny covering fire

what a coward

I say what I have ti say, you accused me of being unpatriotic, now Caribj give you his piece which...nothing more to say.  What do I defend?  You care less of any facts!  It's no point!

Baseman posted:

ronan posted:

Baseman posted:

Thank you.  When I referred to the Rupununi rebellion, he referred to me as unpatriotic.  I had two uncles who went and they spoke of uncalled for excesses by the GDF!!

after being in witness protection for a week on the other thread, you pick up courage to whimper in defense of the indefensible . . . hoping to hide behind caribny covering fire

what a coward

I say what I have ti say, you accused me of being unpatriotic, now Caribj give you his piece which...nothing more to say.  What do I defend?  You care less of any facts!  It's no point!

then why are you ‘defending’ yourself HERE a week later after running away?

bloody coward

alyuh specialize in prance n run

Django posted:

Bibi Haniffa posted:

PPP received 54,000 more votes than APNU in the 2018 LGE

That don't mean squat, nothing to celebrate.

The real win will be 2020  and won't be the crew from F.H,hold off don't bring out the Champagne glasses.

Ayuh need to understand this!  The PNC likely told their supporters let the PPP have their day, stay home.  It's the Bronz medal, PNC already got the Gold.  The PPP complained about being robbed the Gold, well shut-up now, alyuh get a Bronz. 

Honorable B. Jagdeo is now President for Local Govt meaning he is in-charge of drainage and sewer, garbage collection, street sweepiong maintenance, weeding the parpit, etc, etc.

Honorable B. Jagdeo now needs to shed his Brooks Brother suit and Bostonian for Kaki Jeans and things like long rubber booths!!

ronan posted:

Baseman posted:

ronan posted:

 

after being in witness protection for a week on the other thread, you pick up courage to whimper in defense of the indefensible . . . hoping to hide behind caribny covering fire

what a coward

I say what I have ti say, you accused me of being unpatriotic, now Caribj give you his piece which...nothing more to say.  What do I defend?  You care less of any facts!  It's no point!

then why are you ‘defending’ yourself HERE a week later after running away?

bloody coward

alyuh specialize in prance n run

Listen Banna, I said the people of Lethem were the only ones who ever rose up against the PNC.   What is there to defend?  It’s the truth and that stands in the face of Guyana history!  End of story!!

ronan posted:

 

To lump Amerindian/Afro-Guyanese relations in the same pot with the toxic Indo-Guyanese/Afro-Guyanese history and call it cookup is the analysis of a unserious person

citing “GDF” abuse to justify foolish writings does you no credit

It is not discussed because Amerindians have no political, economic or social clout in Guyana. So their views about other ethnicities is never a topic that interests most people.  But it does exist and one need only see how poorly the PNC did in Regions 1, 8 and 9 prior to its alliance with the AFC. 

And if you don't know about GDF abuse you are either in serious denial or not very knowledgeable.  GDF soldiers used to loudly boast of what they did to "buck woman".  Their humanity is people deserving of respect is something that coastal people aren't aware of.   We never thought that a day would come when Amerindians would be a strong swing vote factor.  But now they are and the PPP benefits more from this than does the PNC, now that the UF no longer exists.

Given that blacks have had a greater presence in the interior than have Indians its they who get the blame even if they aren't the only perpetrators.  The UF was very loud in the Rupununi about blacks the same way that Jagdeo was more recently and the behavior of some GDF and some pork knockers made such attempts to stigmatize easier.

Baseman don't make President "Long Boots" look so bad.  I mean it is a well known fact that much of the PPP base have limited education and are very rustic but still.

Let them cheer that the "won" the election with 64% of the votes and boast that the PPP won in Buxton, even after the facts were revealed.

caribny posted:

Baseman don't make President "Long Boots" look so bad.  I mean it is a well known fact that much of the PPP base have limited education and are very rustic but still.

Let them cheer that the "won" the election with 64% of the votes and boast that the PPP won in Buxton, even after the facts were revealed.

Someone forgot to tell the PNC blacks that they were eligible to vote and White Massa is no longer the Leader, or since their leader not in town they lack guidance. 

kp posted:

 

Someone forgot to tell the PNC blacks that they were eligible to vote and White Massa is no longer the Leader, or since their leader not in town they lack guidance. 

I know that you must scream nonsense as I tell the truth. Any way Indians worship whites way more than do blacks. Look how you let a FOREIGNER become president.

Black people saw three alternatives. Racist (PPP), incompetent (APNU) and useless (AFC) so exercised their right to not endorse any of them.