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FM
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OK Folks!

 

There is some great news for President Ramotar and the PPP. 55% of Guyanese say they would vote for President Ramotar and the PPP if an election were to be held this year. That means that the PPP will form a majority government after the next election. Great news, indeed.

 

Read some of the comments made by Guyanese about their President:

 



quote:
"I find President Ramotar to be a very sincere man. I have listened to him and I believe what he says. I find him to be very credible." Joe Ramgobin, School Teacher

 

"President Ramotar strikes me as a very honest man. I also like his simplicity. He is a very approachable leader." Carolyn Mathurin, entrepreneur

 

"President Ramotar said recently that his administration wants to help those who are doing poorly to do well and to help those who are doing well to do better. That is my idea of leadership. President Ramotar is a good leader." Brian Tiwari, Businessman

 

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK MR. PRESIDENT---THE GUYANESE PEOPLE ARE SATISFIED WITH YOUR LEADERSHIP!

 Rev

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That is a big stretch. We have data now to show how difficult that will be.  I means they have to do a big con job on Amerindians. As a numbers man you are doing necromancy here not mathematics.

 

That number is not remotely possible. Assuming all Indians ( they have to win back all Moses constituents for that to happen) plus half the mixed races ( not!) and their usual 3 % pull of patronage Africans come their way they still need to capture at least half of the Amerindians vote to pull that off.

 

The problem becomes more complex in the regional constituencies. In region 9 They will have to put Donald Gajraj to actually work for his keep rather than feed off the nation's plate and gather some vote to preserve his leech source. Region 2 is more difficult and dont think NCN and GINA propagandist in the streets mean t here is any love for them in region 4.

 

They can win but not by 55 they will most likely be the government again but by lesser than the margin they have now.

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:

 

OK Folks!

 

There is some great news for President Ramotar and the PPP.


55% of Guyanese say they would vote for President Ramotar and the PPP if an election were to be held this year.


That means that the PPP will form a majority government after the next election.


Great news, indeed.

Quite possible when compared with previous elections.

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:

D2/Storm is the new AFC?PNC mouthpiece. He reminds me of CARIB using voodoo numbers. 55 percent is reasonable given the current situation in GUYANA.

It is easy to say voodoo numbers. I got the last one correct did I not? The data is clearer not.

 

Given what situation? Your localized presumption the opposition did wrong in cutting their pork down to manageable portions?

 

Caribj, despite his idiosyncrasies is at least bright.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

They can win but not by 55 they will most likely be the government again but by lesser than the margin they have now.


 

Did you read the comments made by Guyanese residing in Guyana about President Ramotar and the high regards and esteem in which they hold him ?

 

Listen! In the next election Donald Ramotar will be the incumbent---and the incumbency will guarantee him at least 5% more votes than he received in 2011.

 

BOTTOM LINE:

 

THE PPP WILL WIN THE NEXT ELECTION--WHETHER IT IS HELD THIS YEAR OR 5 YEARS FROM NOW--BY A CLEAR MAJORITY---AND 55% IS QUITE PLAUSIBLE.

 

Rev

 

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

They can win but not by 55 they will most likely be the government again but by lesser than the margin they have now.


 

Did you read the comments made by Guyanese residing in Guyana about President Ramotar and the high regards and esteem in which they hold him ?

 

Listen! In the next election Donald Ramotar will be the incumbent---and the incumbency will guarantee him at least 5% more votes than he received in 2011.

 

BOTTOM LINE:

 

THE PPP WILL WIN THE NEXT ELECTION--WHETHER IT IS HELD THIS YEAR OR 5 YEARS FROM NOW--BY A CLEAR MAJORITY---AND 55% IS QUITE PLAUSIBLE.

 

Rev

 

 

 

I do not have to do that when I am online with individuals in Gy all day and some are sitting in the heart of the government. The PPP are quaking in their boots. 55% was not plausible when they had the funds and the state at their disposal. They do not now and would have to work hard. We know exactly where the votes are to keep them reined in on from their 20 year kleptocratic spree

FM
Originally Posted by Sledgehammer:

If PPP goa to polls now, dem gao win 55%-60%. AFC gafa leh peeple knoo wah di real issue is or dem PPP bais goa win di prapa-ganda war.


Sledgy:

 

Is that Ms. Sledgehammer in your avatar ? I see you are a man of exquisite taste.

 

Anyway, you are spot on---you live in Guyana---and unlike the many of the blowhards who post here---you clearly have a feel for how voters are reacting to Ramotar and his leadership---and right now 55% say they would re-elect President Ramotar.

 

Rev

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:

D2/Storm is the new AFC?PNC mouthpiece. He reminds me of CARIB using voodoo numbers. 55 percent is reasonable given the current situation in GUYANA.


Whatever happened to our friend caribJ ? Was he deported back to Guyana ? That's a shame. CaribJ was a fairly intelligent youngman. I wish him well. Hope he gets a job with the GDF or police in Guyana.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

D2/Storm is the new AFC?PNC mouthpiece. He reminds me of CARIB using voodoo numbers. 55 percent is reasonable given the current situation in GUYANA.


Whatever happened to our friend caribJ ? Was he deported back to Guyana ? That's a shame. CaribJ was a fairly intelligent youngman. I wish him well. Hope he gets a job with the GDF or police in Guyana.

 

Rev

Carib J is not my friend. Further, he is an Ivy league grad that can make his own way in the world any place he wishes and no sour puss with an inflated sense of self presuming he has to be indigent will not make it so.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Carib J is not my friend. Further, he is an Ivy league grad ...


CaribJ is an ivy league grad you say ?

 

There are lots of ivy grads--just like there are lots of geniuses--who are losers and failures in the real world.

 

I am not saying caribj is a loser or a failure----but dont be too impressed with ivy credentials.

 

In the brief time the Rev interacted with caribJ on this board---he struck me as a fairly intelligent young man---but in my book he was a mental lightweight.

 

By the way, are you caribJ ?hahahahaha

 

Rev

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Carib J is not my friend. Further, he is an Ivy league grad ...


CaribJ is an ivy league grad you say ?

 

There are lots of ivy grads--just like there are lots of geniuses--who are losers and failures in the real world.

 

I am not saying caribj is a loser or a failure----but dont be too impressed with ivy credentials.

 

In the brief time the Rev interacted with caribJ on this board---he struck me as a fairly intelligent young man---but in my book he was a mental lightweight.

 

By the way, are you caribJ ?hahahahaha

 

Rev

 

 

Why should I  not be impressed with what I know the rest of the world want? I never equated an ivy league education with success. I know that one with the background has a heads up over most in a population similarly educated. That is just how it is.

 

I do not think you are in any position to judge his intellect. I know he is beyond the pedestrian pontifications of the nitwits that populate this board in general. I have not seen you tackle any discussion beyond the assurances of being a numbers man with no real backing to it.

 

You can laugh all you want the fact remains that you participating in craniometrics and claiming the greater than status  is for your own self assurance and has no bearing in facts.At least I have not seen evidence of it to date.

FM
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Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 
Why should I  not be impressed with what I know the rest of the world want?
 

 

The rest of the world want ivy league credentials you say ?hahaha

 

Which planet do you live on ?

 

You are clearly delusional.

 

Like I said, the world is saturated with losers and failures who walk around with fancy degrees and ivy credentials---failed geniuses.

 

You need to change your thinking stormy---stop thinking like a loser---open your mind and start living in the real world.

 

LISTEN! THE WORLD NEEDS MORE CREATIVE AND PRODUCTIVE PEOPLE STORMY---NOT MORE IVY GRADS---MANY IVY GRADS ARE BONAFIDE LOSERS AND FAILURES IN THE REAL WORLD.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by raymond:

damn..we still have some sore losers like Rev rumininating...hhahahaha

 

yall lost...deal wid it!!!!hahaha

 

ray bhai!

 

Let me pay you a compliment!

 

Stormborn says the world needs more ivy grads---The Rev says he is dead wrong---the world needs more rays---folks who are willing to bet on themselves---take calculated risks---make sacrifices--start a business---put in the effort---work hard---fall down a few times---but always get back up---and keep on trucking.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 
Why should I  not be impressed with what I know the rest of the world want?
 

 

The rest of the world want ivy league credentials you say ?hahaha

 

Which planet do you live on ?

 

You are clearly delusional.

 

Like I said, the world is saturated with losers and failures who walk around with fancy degress and ivy credentials---failed geniuses.

 

You need to change your thinking stormy---stop thinking like a loser---open your mind and start living in the real world.

 

LISTEN! THE WORLD NEEDS MORE CREATIVE AND PRODUCTIVE PEOPLE STORMY---NOT MORE IVY GRADS---MANY IVY GRADS ARE BONAFIDE LOSERS AND FAILURES IN THE REAL WORLD.

 

Rev

Where do you think every student on the planet would select to be educated at if they are concerned with the best?

 

I would always be delusional or a loser to ones like you. It is all the claim you have to make you seem the better man. It is unfortunately an unstable perch.

 

However, you must believe what makes you feel more grounded in the world, even if it happens to be idiotic rantings.

 

Creative and productive people do indeed  come from every places on the planet but an unusually high number happen to be concentrated around institution of higher learning that are of some repute.

 

In this world, not yours,  that happens to be the Ivy league, barring a few other great ones in the world elsewhere in the world including the US.

 

It is indeed a harder fall if one fails and one had the best education. One would have had the network connections as well and losing in the midst of all that inter-connectivity to success is quite unforgivable. But then how many of the others from the pedestrian institutions fail as well?

 

Now that we have said all that what the hell does that have to do with you  thinking Caribj ought to be thankful for GDF work? Your racism is quite an ankle weight for you.

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by raymond:

damn..we still have some sore losers like Rev rumininating...hhahahaha

 

yall lost...deal wid it!!!!hahaha

 

ray bhai!

 

Let me pay you a compliment!

 

Stormborn says the world needs more ivy grads---The Rev says he is dead wrong---the world needs more rays---folks who are willing to bet on themselves---take calculated risks---make sacrifices--start a business---put in the effort---work hard---fall down a few times---but always get back up---and keep on trucking.

 

Rev

One of the ways one discover non ivy grads is their incessant application of logical fallacies or obfuscation. I never said the world needs more Ivy grads. I said Caribj is one and as a result he is more than likely on a good footing in the world. 

 

The recitation of what makes a successful person is not exclusive of Ivy grads and the reality is they are better placed to be that person. I doubt a Wharton grad would find it less difficult to find a job on wall street vs even the best from the CUNY system. It is not that the latter is the worse but the former has the provenance for success the latter will inevitably lack.

 

If you are arguing like a cow on mundane issues what could one expect on the truly difficult one requiring imagination and originality?

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 
 

One of the ways one discover non ivy grads is their incessant application of logical fallacies or obfuscation. I

 


Stormy:

 

Hopefully you will grow up oneday and be a great achiever in the real world.

 

In the meantime you are free to wallow in your fascination with ivy credentials.lol

 

GROW UP LITTLE BOY!

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 
 

One of the ways one discover non ivy grads is their incessant application of logical fallacies or obfuscation. I

 


Stormy:

 

Hopefully you will grow up oneday and be a great achiever in the real world.

 

In the meantime you are free to wallow in your fascination with ivy credentials.lol

 

GROW UP LITTLE BOY!

 

Rev

Quit making an ass of your self and arguing from little or no information to  slap yourself on the back that comparatively speaking you are a success. As I said, that is what stupid people do. And At my age I hope not to grow up but to grow old gracefully since I am already on that precipice of the twilight years.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
And At my age I hope not to grow up but to grow old gracefully since I am already on that precipice of the twilight years.


Stormy:

 

You are on the precipice of the twilight years and you are still enamored and fascinated by ivy credentials ? I guess you never achieved much in the real world, and have probably lived a life of mediocrity.

 

BY THE WAY STORMY THE REV SUSPECTS YOU ARE THE RE-INCARNATION OF CARIBJ.

 

Anyway, this thread is about the PPP getting 55% of the votes in the next election---whenever it's held---President Ramotar is the incumbent---and with the Guyana economy progressing quite nicely---incumbency guarantees him a minimum of 5% more votes than he got in the 2011 election.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
And At my age I hope not to grow up but to grow old gracefully since I am already on that precipice of the twilight years.


Stormy:

 

You are on the precipice of the twilight years and you are still enamored and fascinated by ivy credentials ? I guess you never achieved much in the real world, and have probably lived a life of mediocrity.

 

BY THE WAY STORMY THE REV SUSPECTS YOU ARE THE RE-INCARNATION OF CARIBJ.

 

Anyway, this thread is about the PPP getting 55% of the votes in the next election---whenever it's held---President Ramotar is the incumbent---and with the Guyana economy progressing quite nicely---incumbency guarantees him a minimum of 5% more votes than he got in the 2011 election.

 

Rev

One cannot aspire for what one already has one can only aspire for higher gradations of it. I have an insatiable urge to know things I do not know and I hope my last breath is an query into what is it.

 

Why should I deny that I am Caribj when in your infinite wisdom you may truly see through me? You are however in strong competition with others who may be on to their personal discovery. That brings us to the point that most people here have no such problem as you do.

 

Incumbency does not provide a bump unless one has been proactive on some issue that resonates with the voters as uniquely of the incumbent. Ramotar comes with the baggage of being slow in the head and a follower.

 

He is actually seen as a bridge troll simply holding the gates to the city for Jagdeo. He is the worse candidate the PPP could have picked. He is without charisma, does not instill hope and looks like  he swallowed a hippo. That is his only bump.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 
 

That brings us to the point that most people here have no such problem as you do.

 

Incumbency does not provide a bump unless one has been proactive on some issue that resonates with the voters as uniquely of the incumbent. Ramotar comes with the baggage of being slow in the head and a follower.

 


Stormy/caribj:

 

The Rev will mark you down as being among the 45% of Guyanese who will not support President Ramotar in the next election. You are free to be prejudiced against Mr. Ramotar and to perceive him as "being slow in the head", but 55% of Guyanese dont share your viewpoint and are deeply satisfied with the honesty, the integrity, the sincerity, and the leadership their president has demonstrated.

 

Read again the comments below by members of the 55% who will be voting for President Ramotar in the next election:

 

quote:
"I find President Ramotar to be a very sincere man. I have listened to him and I believe what he says. I find him to be very credible." Joe Ramgobin, School Teacher

 

"President Ramotar strikes me as a very honest man. I also like his simplicity. He is a very approachable leader." Carolyn Mathurin, entrepreneur

 

"President Ramotar said recently that his administration wants to help those who are doing poorly to do well and to help those who are doing well to do better. That is my idea of leadership. President Ramotar is a good leader." Brian Tiwari, Businessman



 

DID YOU READ THOSE COMMENTS STORMY ?

 

Now go and wallow in your negativity.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 
 

That brings us to the point that most people here have no such problem as you do.

 

Incumbency does not provide a bump unless one has been proactive on some issue that resonates with the voters as uniquely of the incumbent. Ramotar comes with the baggage of being slow in the head and a follower.

 


Stormy/caribj:

 

The Rev will mark you down as being among the 45% of Guyanese who will not support President Ramotar in the next election. You are free to be prejudiced against Mr. Ramotar and to perceive him as "being slow in the head", but 55% of Guyanese dont share your viewpoint and are deeply satisfied with the honesty, the integrity, the sincerity, and the leadership their president has demonstrated.

 

Read again the comments below by members of the 55% who will be voting for President Ramotar in the next election:

 

quote:
"I find President Ramotar to be a very sincere man. I have listened to him and I believe what he says. I find him to be very credible." Joe Ramgobin, School Teacher

 

"President Ramotar strikes me as a very honest man. I also like his simplicity. He is a very approachable leader." Carolyn Mathurin, entrepreneur

 

"President Ramotar said recently that his administration wants to help those who are doing poorly to do well and to help those who are doing well to do better. That is my idea of leadership. President Ramotar is a good leader." Brian Tiwari, Businessman



 

DID YOU READ THOSE COMMENTS STORMY ?

 

Now go and wallow in your negativity.

 

Rev

Do not grab for numbers out of the pale blue yonder. Guyanese now know the benefits of having a divided government and are not backtracking to an autocracy or a dictatorship. 

 

Brian Tiwari is a soup slurper and need Ramotar there so he can double dip at will.

 

Posting lists of what people say is a waste of time as you concede I do have a significant pool of people who would pee on his political grave. The struggle is for a few percentage points in specific areas. It is quite likely that he will lose more this time than last.

 

I would like to do some regression analysis over the 2000 polling stations population locate precisely who voted and where. I hope Gerhard is able to get me the raw data and in that way I can actually create appropriate shape files with the names and addresses of the people in the region so we can actually identify target and inform those voters on their best choice make sure the PPP is never a majority.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 
 
I would like to do some regression analysis over the 2000 polling stations population locate precisely who voted and where. I hope Gerhard is able to get me the raw data and in that way I can actually create appropriate shape files with the names and addresses of the people in the region so we can actually identify target and inform those voters on their best choice make sure the PPP is never a majority.

 

Stormy aka D2:

 

You can do all the regression analysis you want---it will be an exercise in futility.

 

Check out the actual percentages of votes the PPP received in the past 5 elections:

 



quote:
1992...53.5%

 1997...55.3%

 

2001...53.0%

 

2006...54.6%

 

2011...48.6%



 

Clearly the 48.6% of votes received by the PPP in 2011 was an anomaly. In the next election at least 55% of the Guyanese people will support President Ramotar and the PPP. Actually, if you add the incumbency automatic 5% to 48.6% you get 53.6%---close to 55%.

 

Rev

FM

The previous years mean little given the changing demographics. Indians are now 40% of the electorate and the voting age is mainly under 30. Add to that a long history of autocracy, nepotism, corruption and the distinct rise of a Suharto like dynasty and the population cannot be lied to any longer. Give them social networking access and the seepage is unstoppable. The record you posted is of progressive diminished returns and nothing will stop that in the nest elections

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

The record you posted is of progressive diminished returns and nothing will stop that in the nest elections

 

 

President Ramotar was not quite well known by the Guyanese public in 2011, and yet he received 48.6% of the vote. The Guyanese people have now gotten to know their president better---55% deem him to be a man of honesty, integrity and sincerity---and they are all proud of his leadership of their beloved country---and will vote for him in the next election, whenever it's held.

 

48.6% + Minimum 5% (incumbency advantage) = 53.6%

 

Rev

 

 

 

 

FM

you are quite silly. He was a face in the PPP for decades and you still say he is not well known? He cannot be better know if they graft a microchip on his ass proclaiming his name every 3 seconds from now to next year. It is clear his base is the PPP traditional base and that plus 8% point the last time around was his ceiling. With Indian defections,( not recoverable) and Amerindians and blacks seeing they do not have to grovel  in a divided government they are royally screwed.

FM
Originally Posted by warrior:

you and the ppp only crowing the next election the boys will cook you and the crime family

 

Warrior Bhai:

 

The Rev can tell you with 100% confidence that Donald Ramotar will be re-elected President of Guyana in the next election. Now, the big question is whether the PPP will win a majority of the votes and be a majority government.

 

AS OF TODAY THE GUYANESE PEOPLE ARE PLEASED AS PUNCH WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF PRESIDENT RAMOTAR AND 55% WOULD VOTE FOR HIM IN THE NEXT ELECTION.

 

I know this is painful and disheartening news for supporters of the AFC and the PNC. But that's life! Losers(AFC and PNC) must never run Guyana from the executive branch.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

D2/Storm is the new AFC?PNC mouthpiece. He reminds me of CARIB using voodoo numbers. 55 percent is reasonable given the current situation in GUYANA.


Whatever happened to our friend caribJ ? Was he deported back to Guyana ? That's a shame. CaribJ was a fairly intelligent youngman. I wish him well. Hope he gets a job with the GDF or police in Guyana.

 

Rev

LOL

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by warrior:

you and the ppp only crowing the next election the boys will cook you and the crime family

 

Warrior Bhai:

 

The Rev can tell you with 100% confidence that Donald Ramotar will be re-elected President of Guyana in the next election. Now, the big question is whether the PPP will win a majority of the votes and be a majority government.

 

AS OF TODAY THE GUYANESE PEOPLE ARE PLEASED AS PUNCH WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF PRESIDENT RAMOTAR AND 55% WOULD VOTE FOR HIM IN THE NEXT ELECTION.

 

I know this is painful and disheartening news for supporters of the AFC and the PNC. But that's life! Losers(AFC and PNC) must never run Guyana from the executive branch.

 

Rev

You are a haphazard logician. Why would you on admittedly insufficient evidence insist others are pained by some deduction   you miraculously  conjured out of thin air?

 

How ridiculous it is to be spiking the ball and running around the field looking for the trophy "you won" when the game has not even begun?

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 

You are a haphazard logician. Why would you on admittedly insufficient evidence insist others are pained by some deduction   you miraculously  conjured out of thin air?

 


Stormy:

 

The Rev's superior thinking has blessed him with the foresight to envision and anticipate situations before they even occur. I am 100% confident that President Ramotar will be re-elected. And right now 55% of Guyanese will vote for him if the elections were held today. A man of your mediocrity Stormy will never comprehend the Rev's reasoning and deduction. Keep whining and bellyaching.LOL

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
 

You are a haphazard logician. Why would you on admittedly insufficient evidence insist others are pained by some deduction   you miraculously  conjured out of thin air?

 


Stormy:

 

The Rev's superior thinking has blessed him with the foresight to envision and anticipate situations before they even occur. I am 100% confident that President Ramotar will be re-elected. And right now 55% of Guyanese will vote for him if the elections were held today. A man of your mediocrity Stormy will never comprehend the Rev's reasoning and deduction. Keep whining and bellyaching.LOL

 

Rev

I would not call it "thinking" but prophesy. You pluck "understanding" out of the aether per some emotional attachment  and call it wisdom so one cannot argue with that. It is what it is.

 

Thinking formally requires the collection, assimilation and synthesis of some understanding from facts. Deductive reasoning is rigidly formal and never obtuse. It is clear and conclusions inevitable as no other is possible. You cannot be reasoning there.

 

It has to be prophesy

 

FM

President Donald Ramotar is not ruling out the possibility of snap elections. The Head of State had just delivered a fiery presentation to a May Day gathering at the National Park, when he told this publication that such a decision will be based on the actions of the political opposition.
“If I conclude that this kind of behaviour is slowing down our development I will have no hesitationâ€ĶWhen I come to that decision you will know.”

 

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FM

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