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Ok folks

 

The PPP is headed for a majority at upcoming elections.

 

Dr. Jagan spoke about winner not taking all. We have seen a very divided Guyana as Indos and Afros vote for the PPP and PNC respectively.

 

For Guyana to move forward, it needs a broad based government that will heal the divide that is created during any political campaign. Afros and Indos need to mend fences for the a Unified Guyana.

 

Are you in favour of a PPP majority sharing government with young and intelligent MP's from the opposition benches after a winning a majority government ?

 

What do you say good folks ?

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Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

Their adversaries are men of consideration. Such arrangements would not work no matter what.

 

Billy, I am referring to offering positions to the young and talented from the opposition benches. I am not referring to old school politicians, many of whom should now retire.

 

What do you say ?

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
For Guyana to move forward, it needs a board based government that will heal the divide that is created during any political campaign. Afros and Indos need to mend fences for the a Unified Guyana.

A new political organization with progressive individuals from all ethnic groups where the focus on the development of Guyana takes precedence over personal myopic aspirations would be the preferred choice.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
For Guyana to move forward, it needs a board based government that will heal the divide that is created during any political campaign. Afros and Indos need to mend fences for the a Unified Guyana.

A new political organization with progressive individuals from all ethnic groups where the focus on the development of Guyana takes precedence over personal myopic aspirations would be the preferred choice.

 

DG

 

I like your suggestion but we do not have such an organization right now. Guyana is crying out for a Unified nation. 

 

We need to start somewhere, should the PPP take that idea into consideration after their majority ?

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
For Guyana to move forward, it needs a board based government that will heal the divide that is created during any political campaign. Afros and Indos need to mend fences for the a Unified Guyana.

A new political organization with progressive individuals from all ethnic groups where the focus on the development of Guyana takes precedence over personal myopic aspirations would be the preferred choice.

DG

 

I like your suggestion but we do not have such an organization right now. Guyana is crying out for a Unified nation. 

 

We need to start somewhere, should the PPP take that idea into consideration after their majority ?

1. And indeed the start can be made ... simply form the suggested organization and forge ahead with strong focus on unity, eventually such an organization would gain support over time.

 

2. It is for the PPP, PNC, AFC and all other organizations to first have that focused vision for Guyana. In time, the progressive elements from the political organizations would eventually merge, with the name of a new political organization.

FM
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

It depends, I am available if they can afford me.

 

Nehru bhai,

 

Every man has a price.

I would take the Minister in the OP.

Minister = meaning a priest.

I will take over from the late Pandit JI

Pandit Ji was a good man.

 

I attended many of his seven day yajnas in Berbice. 

As long as you are good in constitutional affairs then you will be considered.

 

His daughter is now an MP and looks like a future leader. Lots of young minds in the PPP, they deserve to take charge and move the party and Guyana forward.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
For Guyana to move forward, it needs a board based government that will heal the divide that is created during any political campaign. Afros and Indos need to mend fences for the a Unified Guyana.

A new political organization with progressive individuals from all ethnic groups where the focus on the development of Guyana takes precedence over personal myopic aspirations would be the preferred choice.

DG

 

I like your suggestion but we do not have such an organization right now. Guyana is crying out for a Unified nation. 

 

We need to start somewhere, should the PPP take that idea into consideration after their majority ?

1. And indeed the start can be made ... simply form the suggested organization and forge ahead with strong focus on unity, eventually such an organization would gain support over time.

 

2. It is for the PPP, PNC, AFC and all other organizations to first have that focused vision for Guyana. In time, the progressive elements from the political organizations would eventually merge, with the name of a new political organization.

 

I like your suggestion, Guyana is crying out for a new vision.

FM

 

 

Originally Posted by yuji22:

For Guyana to move forward, it needs a broad based government that will heal the divide that is created during any political campaign. Afros and Indos need to mend fences for the a Unified Guyana.


Yuji:

 

* Did you say that for Guyana to move forward it needs a broad based government that will heal the divide ?

 

* POPPYCOCK!

 

 

* Listen yuji! If you have a cookie, and you share it with the Rev, you feel a great sense of satisfaction, right ?

 

* Most humans feel satisfied when they share.

 

* BUT SHARING IN POLITICS WILL NOT WORK.

 

* It is clear yuji you do not understand the behavior and mentality of the PNC and their grassroot black supporters.

 

* If the PPP offers a few ministries to the PNC, the masses of PNC supporters will still be dissatisfied and discontented.

 

* THOSE FOLKS WANT THE WHOLE SHEBANG.

 

* They want the presidency and everything under the presidency. That is the only time they will be happy. And they want those positions to be gifted to them. They are not prepared to win an election.

 

BOTTOM LINE:

 

* I have said it before---regardless of which party wins the election in Guyana, nearly half the population will be dissatisfied. That is the way it is in politics. Just accept it.

 

* So cut this nonsense about about broad based government yuji.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:

 

 

Originally Posted by yuji22:

For Guyana to move forward, it needs a broad based government that will heal the divide that is created during any political campaign. Afros and Indos need to mend fences for the a Unified Guyana.


Yuji:

 

* Did you say that for Guyana to move forward it needs a broad based government that will heal the divide ?

 

* POPPYCOCK!

 

 

* Listen yuji! If you have a cookie, and you share it with the Rev, you feel a great sense of satisfaction, right ?

 

* Most humans feel satisfied when they share.

 

* BUT SHARING IN POLITICS WILL NOT WORK.

 

* It is clear yuji you do not understand the behavior and mentality of the PNC and their grassroot black supporters.

 

* If the PPP offers a few ministries to the PNC, the masses of PNC supporters will still be dissatisfied and discontented.

 

* THOSE FOLKS WANT THE WHOLE SHEBANG.

 

* They want the presidency and everything under the presidency. That is the only time they will be happy. And they want those positions to be gifted to them. They are not prepared to win an election.

 

BOTTOM LINE:

 

* I have said it before---regardless of which party wins the election in Guyana, nearly half the population will be dissatisfied. That is the way it is in politics. Just accept it.

 

* So cut this nonsense about about broad based government yuji.

 

Rev

Rev I have the same reservation about a broad based government especially with the PNC. We cannot forget what Forbes and the PNC did to Peter D'aguiar. If the PNC is not invited to form a government, GT will be reduced to ashes.

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Ok folks

 

The PPP is headed for a majority at upcoming elections.

 

Dr. Jagan spoke about winner not taking all. We have seen a very divided Guyana as Indos and Afros vote for the PPP and PNC respectively.

 

For Guyana to move forward, it needs a broad based government that will heal the divide that is created during any political campaign. Afros and Indos need to mend fences for the a Unified Guyana.

 

Are you in favour of a PPP majority sharing government with young and intelligent MP's from the opposition benches after a winning a majority government ?

 

What do you say good folks ?

I'm not a good folk but I'll say something.

If the PPP wins a majority it will NEVER share government.

It will buy out individuals as it did Mansoor Nadir and Leslie Ramsammy. That is not what sharing government means.

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
 

Rev I have the same reservation about a broad based government especially with the PNC. We cannot forget what Forbes and the PNC did to Peter D'aguiar. If the PNC is not invited to form a government, GT will be reduced to ashes.

 

Skelly bhai:

 

* Yuji means well when he talks about broad based government and healing. He is a good and decent young man, but yuji clearly does not understand the mentality of the PNC and their supporters. Like I said above, those folks will never be satisfied---they will complain, criticize and condemn the ruling party until the PNC rules the country. They want the whole SHEBANG.

 

SHARING IN GUYANA POLITCS WILL NOT WORK.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Ok folks

 

The PPP is headed for a majority at upcoming elections.

 

Dr. Jagan spoke about winner not taking all. We have seen a very divided Guyana as Indos and Afros vote for the PPP and PNC respectively.

 

For Guyana to move forward, it needs a broad based government that will heal the divide that is created during any political campaign. Afros and Indos need to mend fences for the a Unified Guyana.

 

Are you in favour of a PPP majority sharing government with young and intelligent MP's from the opposition benches after a winning a majority government ?

 

What do you say good folks ?

I'm not a good folk but I'll say something.

If the PPP wins a majority it will NEVER share government.

It will buy out individuals as it did Mansoor Nadir and Leslie Ramsammy. That is not what sharing government means.

 

Gil

 

We have had our moments of disagreement but sometimes we care for Guyana and our strong differences must not stand in the way of dialogue and disagreements with civility.

 

I remember Dr, Jagan talking about a broad based political party. It still rings in my ears till this day. I still remember as a little boy, my dad would put me on his shoulder as I listened to Dr. Jagan speak in Corentyne.

 

I also remember listening to Burnham speaking on the radio and even though I disagree with his politics, I admired his speaking skills.

 

Sad to see a divided PPP today. No matter what side of the fence that you sit on.

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
 

Rev I have the same reservation about a broad based government especially with the PNC. We cannot forget what Forbes and the PNC did to Peter D'aguiar. If the PNC is not invited to form a government, GT will be reduced to ashes.

 

Skelly bhai:

 

* Yuji means well when he talks about broad based government and healing. He is a good and decent young man, but yuji clearly does not understand the mentality of the PNC and their supporters. Like I said above, those folks will never be satisfied---they will complain, criticize and condemn the ruling party until the PNC rules the country. They want the whole SHEBANG.

 

SHARING IN GUYANA POLITCS WILL NOT WORK.

 

Rev

 

Rev

 

I love Guyana and want to see a United country. I am talking about a some sort of power sharing after a PPP majority. Give the opposition a few positions and see how well they perform.

 

This may turn out to be a good thing. Sister Vanessa comes to mind as a possible candidate. Broad minded and young Guyanese making a difference.

 

What do you say, honourable Rev ?

FM

 

Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
 

What do you say, honourable Rev ?


I SAY YOU ARE LIVING IN A FANTASY WORLD WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR DREAMS FOR A POLITICALLY UNIFIED GUYANA.

 

* You obviously did not read and comprehend my first post.

 

Rev

Tek a stick and whack he backside.

Power Sharing won't work. PPP/C and the PNC want it all. They won't share.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
 

What do you say, honourable Rev ?


I SAY YOU ARE LIVING IN A FANTASY WORLD WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR DREAMS FOR A POLITICALLY UNIFIED GUYANA.

 

* You obviously did not read and comprehend my first post.

 

Rev

Tek a stick and whack he backside.

 

Gil

 

It was worth a second try. Looks like Rev is not going to budge.

He might sleep over it and change his mind. 

FM
Originally Posted by Mitwah:

 

Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
 

What do you say, honourable Rev ?


I SAY YOU ARE LIVING IN A FANTASY WORLD WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR DREAMS FOR A POLITICALLY UNIFIED GUYANA.

 

* You obviously did not read and comprehend my first post.

 

Rev

Tek a stick and whack he backside.

Power Sharing won't work. PPP/C and the PNC want it all. They won't share.

Mits,

 

How come you are so certain ? 

 

When one reads the scriptures, we learn about the Pandavas taking the Kurus back into their homes after the Mahabharat war. Maharaj Yudhistir was a kind hearted leader.

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Ok folks

 

 

Dr. Jagan spoke about winner not taking all. We have seen a very divided Guyana as Indos and Afros vote for the PPP and PNC respectively.

 

 

 

 

What do you say good folks ?

There will be no unity if the PPP wins a majority as that party has displayed nothing but contempt for Africans.  Jagdeo was bad but Ramotar is WORSE...shooting down blacks in cold blood when they have attempted to protest!

 

So cut the NONSENSE!

 

If you want unity wish that the PPP remains a MINORITY gov't. or better yet LOSES.   This will convince them that unless they engage in meaningful dialogue NOTHING will happen.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Ok folks

 

 

Dr. Jagan spoke about winner not taking all. We have seen a very divided Guyana as Indos and Afros vote for the PPP and PNC respectively.

 

 

 

 

What do you say good folks ?

There will be no unity if the PPP wins a majority as that party has displayed nothing but contempt for Africans.  Jagdeo was bad but Ramotar is WORSE...shooting down blacks in cold blood when they have attempted to protest!

 

So cut the NONSENSE!

 

If you want unity wish that the PPP remains a MINORITY gov't. or better yet LOSES.   This will convince them that unless they engage in meaningful dialogue NOTHING will happen.

 

Carib

 

Looks like you are from another generation that only fostered hate. I am talking about a Guyana where the majority reaches out to the minority.

 

The reality is that the PPP will win a majority. The question is whether it is willing to offer a few positions to the minority opposition after the election.

 

 

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by Spontaneous emission:

Do you want a tug-a-war or a rasa kashi cabinet?

 

If we have say three ministers from the opposition and twelve from the PPP then the PPP will win any tug of war. The president is at the liberty of shuffling his cabinet at will.

 

How about we take a new perspective on Guyana's political future ?

 

How can the opposition vote against their own ministers ?

 

Please do not get angry at yuji. I am just putting forward some ideas for discussion.

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:

Ok folks

 

The PPP is headed for a majority at upcoming elections.

 

Dr. Jagan spoke about winner not taking all. We have seen a very divided Guyana as Indos and Afros vote for the PPP and PNC respectively.

 

For Guyana to move forward, it needs a broad based government that will heal the divide that is created during any political campaign. Afros and Indos need to mend fences for the a Unified Guyana.

 

Are you in favour of a PPP majority sharing government with young and intelligent MP's from the opposition benches after a winning a majority government ?

 

What do you say good folks ?

You obviously don't get it. It is not about sharing power. It is all about the corruption and destruction that the current regime is unleashing on Guyana. It doesn't matter which party was in charge. It is the team of people who have used high office to rape and pillage the land. They should be dragged to prison, president et all. The country cannot last for much longer under such terrifying break down of law and order, and rampant corruption.

Mr.T
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Mitwah:

 

Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
 

What do you say, honourable Rev ?


I SAY YOU ARE LIVING IN A FANTASY WORLD WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR DREAMS FOR A POLITICALLY UNIFIED GUYANA.

 

* You obviously did not read and comprehend my first post.

 

Rev

Tek a stick and whack he backside.

Power Sharing won't work. PPP/C and the PNC want it all. They won't share.

Mits,

 

How come you are so certain ? 

 

When one reads the scriptures, we learn about the Pandavas taking the Kurus back into their homes after the Mahabharat war. Maharaj Yudhistir was a kind hearted leader.

 

 

The PPP/C and the PNC are not Pandavas or Kurus. Ramotar is no Maharaja Yudhistir. Your analogy does not work. Right now your PPP/C are the minority, and they are not willing to compromise and reach out to the other side.

 

Can you tell us why the PPP Maharajas  do not want the Procurement Commission, a neutral body to review and approve bids?

Mitwah

 

PAGING SKELDON-MAN:

 

* You spent a month in Guyana recently. Could you inform our friend yuji that indos and afros residing in Guyana get along very well. There is no animosity between the 2 major races. And the only time there is some tension between the 2 groups is around election time when the majority of indos support the PPP and the majority of afros support the PNC ?

 

* THERE IS NO DIVIDE BETWEEN INDOS & AFROS.

 

* But there is HATRED among a tiny few----the PPP HATERS and DIRTY INDIANS despise the PPP with a passion.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:

GUYANA CHRONICLE TODAY:

 

ROHEE SAYS SHARED GOVERNANCE NOT AN ISSUE WITH PPP; TRUST IS

 

See link:

 

http://guyanachronicle.com/roh...e-with-ppp-trust-is/

 

* You see folksTRUST is like virginity---once you lose it---it's gone---it will never come back.

 

* The PNC will never be trusted by the PPP.

 

* I started a thread earlier this year on the topic of MISTRUST.

 

Rev

 

Rev

 

Looks like the PPP is open to the idea of some form of shared governance but as you indicated, Trust is the stumbling block.

 

How do we build trust with the AFC/PNC given their past record ? I honestly do not have an answer and while I am hopeful, I cannot see it materializing based on the response from PPP and PNC/AFC supporters on this BB.

 

It is disappointing. At least, I tried to float around an idea but it was killed based on the harsh political reality in Guyana.

 

Time to ratchet up the election mode politics with the AFC/PNC supporters on this BB.

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
 

 Rev

 

Looks like the PPP is open to the idea of some form of shared governance but as you indicated, Trust is the stumbling block.

 


yuji:

 

* Don't believe everything you read. Gilbakka is right. The PPP will never agree to shared governance, but Rohee cannot admit that in public.

 

* LISTEN! WHAT GUYANA NEEDS IS MORE DEVELOPMENT NOT SHARED GOVERNANCE.

 

* Shared governance means a few PNC ministers will get to "thief" like the PPP bais----that's all.

 

Rev

FM
Last edited by Former Member

Got it Rev.

 

So basically, the Milk and Honey that you speak of is sacred and the PPP will not allow the PNC to take part in the feast since the PNC had 28 years to swim in the Milk and Honey.

 

Well I guess it is PPP all the way and as Nehru Bhai always posted, PPP to the mountain top and I will add with the milk and honey jar in hand provided we continue to see Development.

 

Then so be it, PPP all the way to a majority.

FM

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