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FM
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OK Folks:

 

As you all know, men in today's world are not half the men they used to be 50 or 100 years ago.

 

Lots of men today cannot afford to support a family on their own----they need their wives to work and contribute financially also.

 

NOTHING WRONG WITH WOMEN CONTRIBUTING.

 

50-100 years ago few women were in the workforce. Today that has changed.

 

OK! This thread is about women paying for their engagement rings ?

 

SHOULD WOMEN PAY FOR THEIR ENGAGEMENT RING IF THE MAN THEY ARE IN A RELATIONSHIP CANNOT AFFORD IT OR CANNOT AFFORD THE SIZE & QUALITY OF THE RING THEY WANT ?

 

Rev

 

 

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STILL MORE:

 

Today's couples are operating in a far more progressive society than their  parents' and parents' parents. More than 60% of women have a say in what kind of  ring they get, according to the Knot, and about one-third help set a ring budget  with their partner.

 

So, what do you think?  Weigh in below.

 

FM
Originally Posted by Riya:

This was on TV this morning. 18% chipped in together to buy the ring.

 

I'm old school, he buys the ring. 


46% in the survey answered NO---where is the romance in that.

 

Click on the link above!

 

The Rev is even more old fashioned than you---I feel the man should pay for the ring---and everything else too---wedding, house, vacation house, car, etc, etc

 

But if the woman wants to work---that's fine by me---she can enjoy her independence---and she can keep 100% of whatever she earns.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Riya:

I don't mind the rest because once you're married, it becomes our money. We will discuss spending at that time.

 

so....these men, or women, pop the question and then say oh we will discuss ring cost later? my guy should have the ring on hand when proposing. Just saying.


Riya:

 

The truth is a lot of guys are getting left behind in today's world.

 

I don't know the exact stats, but in a few years you'll have more women college graduates than men.

 

WOMEN ARE SURPASSING MEN IN A LOT OF FIELDS.

 

So eventually, you'll likely have a role reversal---it's the women who will be proposing marriage---and the women who will be carrying most of the financial responsibilities in relationships.

 

 

THE REV'S TAKE: MORE POWER TO WOMEN

 

 

Rev

 

PS. I would like to see a woman president of the United States---even if she is a democrat.

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Riya:

Hillary for 2016!

 

marriage and children are also the furthest things in most of these career driven women mind.

 

RE: HILLARY

 

You won't believe this, but I voted for Hillary years ago when she ran for NY senator against Rick Lazio.

 

Did you see Chelsea has promised Hillary she will make her a grandmother in 2014 ?

 

 http://www.today.com/news/chel...baby-2014-8C11323010

 

 

RE: CAREER DRIVEN WOMEN

 

My youngest sister has an MBA from Kellogg---she worked at Merrill, Goldman, etc----she is still an executive----and still single----she is married to her job---but she is happy---the amount of business travel she does---she couldn't possibly be married.

 

Rev

 

FM
Originally Posted by chameli:
 

agreed...

he buys the ring,

he gets the thing


OK! CHECK OUT THIS SCENARIO.

 

* Let's say the woman is a Wall Street professional in her 30s--and let's say she is worth 5 million dollars.

 

* And let's say she's  in love with a high school teacher---highly intelligent man---he stimulates her mentally---but he only makes around $80,000 US and can only afford a $3000 ring.

 

QUESTION:

 

* Obviously a woman worth 5 million---has impeccable taste----and so if the woman wants a 3 carat, D color, peak shaped, VVS clarity diamond ring---costing around $65,000---here is what it looks like:

 

 

QUESTION:

 

Should the woman add the $62,000 to the $3000 her school teacher boyfriend can afford ?

 

Or should she look for another man who can afford the $65K ring, but maybe doesn't stimulate her mentally like the poor school teacher ?

 

YOU SEE THE DILEMMA WOMEN WHO MAKE MORE MONEY THAN THEIR GUYS FACE ?

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by chameli:
 

agreed...

he buys the ring,

he gets the thing


OK! CHECK OUT THIS SCENARIO.

 

* Let's say the woman is a Wall Street professional in her 30s--and let's say she is worth 5 million dollars.

 

* And let's say she's  in love with a high school teacher---highly intelligent man---he stimulates her mentally---but he only makes around $80,000 US and can only afford a $3000 ring.

 

QUESTION:

 

* Obviously a woman worth 5 million---has impeccable taste----and so if the woman wants a 3 carat, D color, peak shaped, VVS clarity diamond ring---costing around $65,000---here is what it looks like:

 

 

QUESTION:

 

Should the woman add the $62,000 to the $3000 her school teacher boyfriend can afford ?

 

Or should she look for another man who can afford the $65K ring, but maybe doesn't stimulate her mentally like the poor school teacher ?

 

YOU SEE THE DILEMMA WOMEN WHO MAKE MORE MONEY THAN THEIR GUYS FACE ?

 

Rev, you stated that obviously that a woman who is worth five million has impeccable taste. I disagree. a woman's taste has nothing who with how much money she has or her earning ability. Her money might enable her to buy expensive stuff, but not necessarily tasteful. A woman doe not have to spend a fortune to be elegant.

 

Now, regarding the ring and the high school teacher, what value, does the ring add to the relationship? I am not speaking of monetary value. 

FM
Originally Posted by Observer:

Reminds me of Oprah.  Her longtime companion Stedman was using her for her money.  Wealthy women have to be careful.


Observer:

 

That's not true! Oprah and Stedman have been together for 27 years---when they first hooked up, Oprah was just an ordinary TV host---she became a billionaire later.

 

But Stedman always had his own business----and Oprah once said---he never asked her for anything---financially.

 

By the way, Oprah told Barbara Walters once that had she and Stedman been married----the marriage would not have survived.

 

Maybe if they were married---and with Oprah accumulating 2 billion+---Stedman may have cashed out----and gotten half.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Miraver:

Back to the high school teacher...if rich lady goes out and find rich man, she might get bored. When one is used to getting mental stimulation and then it stops one will get bored and go elsewhere

 

Mira:

 

Are you drawing from your personal experience ?lol

 

But you are 100% correct---you women love to be mentally stimulated and mentally seduced.

 

You are well read Mira, so you must be aware of this old saying from women:

 

"Seduce my mind and you can have my body. Find my soul and I'm yours forever."

 

Somewhere along the line---usually about 2 years after the man puts that ring on his woman's finger---he gets lazy and the mental stimulation and the seducing of the mind stops.

 

THAT'S WHEN THE WOMAN CONTEMPLATES OR BECOMES OPEN TO AN AFFAIR.

 

Any woman who says the above is not true is lying or in deep denial.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by chameli:
Originally Posted by Rev:
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"Seduce my mind and you can have my body. Find my soul and I'm yours forever."

 

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chameli: my loverseduced me with his sense of humour and his serenading (those days we both used to fit on one rocking chair...lol)...he found my soul with his kindness, patience and his love for our 3 children

 

S-W-E-E-T

 

No wonder the 2 of you are going strong---30 years and counting.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Amral:

I still old fashioned, the man pays for the ring


OK!

 

Like the Rev, you are old fashioned---but check with your sons---they are single and professional---but one day they may choose to get married.

 

But you never know---young people today are not that excited about getting married and raising a family.

 

But anyway, ask your sons if they were dating women who made more money than them----and the women offered to pay for a more expensive engagement ring----would they agree ?

 

Rev

 

 

 

 

FM

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