Ksazma, all I know is that my father told me that it can only be done once...

Good enough for me my dear. Cheers.

you ever wonder it might be to stop sand from getting into your head

As I understand it, the ancient Hindus did not make provision for second or third marriages. The first marriage was expected to last till death parted the couple. And sindoor was for that first marriage.

[Christians also take the marriage vow "till death do us part."]

Again, the makers of the Hindu rules were high-caste brahmans, i.e., humans liable to err.

Whatever the case, I think sindoor looks nice on a Hindu woman. Beyond that, I'm indifferent.

culture have a way to hold society together and a better place to live in

I like to know what u think of Psalm 115? That is in the Bible. Just ur thoughts. Does it make any sense? The words along with our civilized world. 

Imagine if Christians had harken to this passage rather than follow the Greek/Roman view of idolizing/worshipping Jesus, the man. Christians don't have the moral fortitude to criticize others who use idols.

I just read it online- the new international version. The part that jumped right out at me was the condemning of the idols.

Nobody has the right to criticize others in whatever form of worship they choose. 

If sand, then it's cultural/regional.

IGH, we've taken your topic off track

I hope someone is able to refocus it.

Your response is better than mine.

LOL! that's ok, Miraver. Just laughing ...

Psalm 115 was penned centuries(perhaps thousands of years)before the Commom Era-the Birth of Christ. You do know, that Islamic Arabia battles with South India was mainly the destruction of their temples and carting off the golden idols. So why the muslims are so much against idol worshipping. I would think Psalm 115 was the basis of Mohammads campaign againsts the idol in mecca.

Exactly. And back then, they praised the Lord. After Jesus, the Greeks and Romans created a new religion called Christianity where they taught others to praise Jesus and today Jesus is praised even more than the Lord. Jesus himself told his disciples to praise the Lord and the minute he died, they disobeyed him and started praising him. But methinks this topic was supposed to be about sindoor so you should open a new topic, preferably on Religion if you want to continue this discussion. Good luck.

Interestingly Muslims would cart off with India's golden idols when they themselves got rid of theirs centuries before. You must enjoy those fictional works that you read. As advised before, open a new topic and bring your evidence to support your claim. You may want it to be between your word or mine. I don't trust your word to that formula will not work.  

The lady mentioned what she saw at a puja. And I was motivated to ask her opinion on Psalm 115. Not, that I want her to change her beliefs. For the expression of thought and understanding the grouping of words, I simply enquired what she thought about the Psalm.   

I din ask about Greeks, Romans, Jews or Christ. But I know Christ cause u some great discomfort.  

How can Christ cause me great discomfort? The person you think of when you think Christ wasn't even name Christ. I know the true person and by his true name. What you know is a make believe person with a make believe name and make believe qualities. None of that brings be any discomfort. What bothered me is you inserting something different from the topic into it. Like you did on the mosque topic on Religion. Chief did the same and he was straightened out. He accepted his folly and moved on.

And I am 100% confident that Esau will be by my side in the afterworld.  

Miraver, were you sindoored or not sindoored?

Gilly, thanks so much for bringing this thread back on track.

Gilly, this is my second attempt to respond. hope it goes through this time.

The widows used to jump in the pyre during the cremation. No need to take down sindoor. Or they used to go to the special ashram where they were set apart from society. Did you see the film Water directed by Deepa Metha?

My attempt to refocus this thread

Without knowing the finer details of sindoor, I would have expected that any woman who got married would have the sindoor applied to them by their husband and if they become widowed or divorced, they would remove the sindoor to signify that they are no longer married. This will make her available if she chooses to remarry. However, there seem to be other considerations involved which I have no idea of. I am inclined to think that Hindus are comfortable with the explanation given to them like Feens has been and that is good enough for me. I am sure that I can learn more as this discussion continue.

Ignore that fool about sand.

I just peeped in...But have to take off for a wake.

I have to catch up on the postings...

Ok. So far, I have gotten the clearest explanation from my daughter. Don't know if she is right but she did a religion class in her first semester and chose Hinduism. She said that Hindu women are not allowed to remarry so the application of the sindoor would not be necessary. She also said that Hindu women are not supposed to get divorced. Now if this is correct, it would clarify the questions that I had.

I would recommend that her teacher  read the life of a Bengali Hindu Scholar called Iswarchandra Vidyasagar. Read http://bengalonline.sitemarvel.com/vidyasagar.html OR http://www.calcuttaweb.com/people/vidyasagar.shtml. You will see how he did extensive research into Hindu scriptures and established that widow marriage is legal in Hindu scriptures.

Also her teacher needs to be apprised of Hindu Widow's Remarriage Act  of 1856.

So, whether you are divorced or widowed or someone looking to start late in life go to : http://www.secondshaadi.com/?ref=adwords&gclid=CMH5xv7D8L0CFQsSMwod4QMA9w

Sindoor is not only reserved for the first marriage. The significance of the rubbing is a pledge by the groom to shield and protect his wife. The sindoor most times, does signify that the woman is married. Some widows continue to wear it to indicate that they are not interested in a relationship or second marriage. I know of many women who have done that to dedicate their lives to bring up their children. 

As to "her second or later marriage not accompanied by the application of the sindoor" , that could be a choice or directions from the pundits. Usually second marriages are done with only close relatives and friends and not the big fan fare like the first wedding. I recently attended a wedding where the father-in-law gave his 22 year old widowed daughter as if she was his own daughter (kanya daan) to the groom.

who you calling a fool,you is a religious nut,all culture was mostly form by nature and the environment you live in,the people of the middle east always deal with a sandy area so they use the head and face cover to protect them self from the sand.you blow up any building yet

After all this now when i see a woman wid red hot lipstick and all the foundation and other make up on them face,  them must have to be very religous

 hope you do not meet kwame in the night,you might think she is a pandit 

Is this Kwame wan bramhin dulahin?

This is a useless, vestigial remnant of a patriarchical system in Hinduism. Women have lives after their husbands an do not commit sati or retreat to a mandir to shrivel up and die. If the act of wearing a sindoor should be relegated to symbolism and not perfunctory ritual. Women should not look to a pandit for advise here but do as they please since there is no relevance for it in our modern world. No pandit in his right mind should approach any woman with the admonition that the wear or not wear a sindoor. It is advisable to any woman to reserve a nice rock to hurl at the head of any idiot who scoldingly insists they do so.

It was a custom in ancient times. Women adorned every part of their bodies and wore garments of fine apparels. Hair was decorated with head dress and eyes were painted. It was a big thing for them and tatto was big back then too. First, the Dravidians(time of the Hitties) took the custom of sindoor to the Malabars. Later, the Aryans instituted the custom into the rituals of the pantheon of their gods. The natives of India, had no customs of that sort-they had only tribal gods. And each tribe had their own gods. 

And the wedding ring is also another ancient Hindu custom, adopted by all other religions and cultures. Do the tribals gods exist today?

Every man is a god in his own right, do the things that are godly and "voila" you are a god  

The Bible does say we are like gods. And God of Jews seys man is made in the image of HIM.

If u google Dravidians, you will see a woman wearing a part in the middle of her head with jewelry. She is also wearing a Sari. She is a Hittite-supposedly living at the time in modern day Turkey. Descendants of Esau.

and so what? Seems to me like you are trolling.