Shaitaan, Dat is 1500 US per month, you kno dat , right???
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Shaitaan, Dat is 1500 US per month, you kno dat , right???
I get that. That is not the point though. The point is that the PPP is sharing out state money to lots of people to ensure re-election and it's working.
If you notice my opening commentary for this thread, I was quite specific about this PPP tactic and how I viewed it as successful. Now KN offers a specific example for ya'll.
USD $1500 to USD $2500 base salary a month is a pretty damn good raise for a state employee in Guyana especially when you don't count their customary bribes.
Originally Posted by yuji22:
I live and die by one principle:
Money talks and BS walks.
True dat,you does walk a lot.
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
From the chatter I am hearing from those close to both campaign teams, Moses Nagamootoo has proven to be a rank disappointment in the eyes of APNU as he is not really campaigning in Indian areas and not showing his Indian support (because he has none). This is probably due to the fact that he has no cult following outside of some homeless Jaganites on GNI and FB.
The PPP is sharing money like it's goin outta style and the Coalition is a terribly compromised organization. There are lots of PNC and AFC soupies who have been secretly flipped by the PPP within the ranks of the Coalition.
The PPP is just worried about post-election violence in the expected event of their victory. They are confident about victory. It seems that the PPP has made up for rank incompetence by bribing almost everyone.
Once again Granger is in a terrible position in the PNC as he is being seen as a transition figure by many and he cannot wield the kind of authority he feels is necessary to clinch victory.
It seems that for many Guyanese the lesson of this election will be that a wad of PPP cash is too tempting to pass up. This election is becoming more akin to an election in Georgian England. APNU can't compete with PPP cash and Guyanese greed.
To be frank, I'm actually surprised at the greed and cuthroat behavior of Guyanese Blacks. I didn't think it was possible for a PPP Government to control Black people with some bribes. I was wrong. I misunderstood the nature of all Guyanese people. They are universally corrupt and like a life of ease and easy money. Maybe we really are "One People One Nation" more than we care to admit.
Milky tea is saving the PPP! That is the story of the 2015 election. I expect a PPP Majority Government.
That's all you hear "Chatter" hey man,. why you flip flopping all over the place? One day you say the opposition tearing ass now the PPP winning.
I say the PPP getting dumped. Should they win, I predict within a couple of years (if that long) the people will revolt. It's only so long people can be conned by those criminals in Government.
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Bribes will not give the PPP a majority government, sir.
I wish I was as confident about that as you are. Selling ID cards was long a plan and a fear that many will take up that offer.
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
The seeds of our current dysfunction is that we are merely playing out the roles of decay written for us in our colonial political origins. Our social and political system only functioned with a strong Governor from London. The system was never designed to support an independent State. Even our elites still have that inherent subservient attitude towards Government, just as the elites that preceded them used to bow and scrape before the Governor.
Given that Guyana has the same colonial legacy as does Trinidad and Barbados, why is it so immature?
I think you ought to blame GUYANESE for being spineless bunch of cowards. Only Guyana had a Burnham and only Guyana had a Jagdeo. The rest of the English speaking Caribbean being left in wonderment as to how Guyanese tolerate this state of affairs, and then flee to their countries like refugees. This is why Guyanese are so disrespected at regional airports.
Originally Posted by cain:
That's all you hear "Chatter" hey man,. why you flip flopping all over the place? One day you say the opposition tearing ass now the PPP winning.
I say the PPP getting dumped. Should they win, I predict within a couple of years (if that long) the people will revolt. It's only so long people can be conned by those criminals in Government.
Since when is acknowledging certain realities flip flopping.
1. Guyanese are corrupt so why the shock that they will take bribes to sell their ID cards? Guyanese boast of their ability to adjust to a bad situation rather than changing it. Will they do like what the people of St Kitts and Nevis did to dump an elected dictator? WE will see. US$10 is tempting and apparently people are too stupid to just take the cash and still vote against the PPP.
2. It is a known fact that the AFC is weak with a skimpy grass roots organization. When thus fact is mentioned the Moses cultists have seizures.
3. It is known that within many PNC circles Granger is seen as being weak, and that he excludes many younger more vibrant people. Why isn't Nigel Hughes not playing a more prominent role, given his following among the youth?
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Shaitaan, Dat is 1500 US per month, you kno dat , right???
I get that. That is not the point though. The point is that the PPP is sharing out state money to lots of people to ensure re-election and it's working.
If you notice my opening commentary for this thread, I was quite specific about this PPP tactic and how I viewed it as successful. Now KN offers a specific example for ya'll.
USD $1500 to USD $2500 base salary a month is a pretty damn good raise for a state employee in Guyana especially when you don't count their customary bribes.
Especially given that the average black civil servant makes less than $300/month, yet you all still claim that they dominate Guyana.
The openly racial campaigning and bringing up the past is scaring some Indians, but turning off the few Afros who vote PPP. Also turning off some of the relatively larger mixed population who vote for PPP. The election has teeth. For the first time since 1992, I can't say PPP will win an election. None of this is helpful when the Indo population is between 35 to 39%.
Especially given that the average black civil servant makes less than $300/month, yet you all still claim that they dominate Guyana.
Carib:
That's their official salary. Their unreported tips are really, really bigger than their salaries. Can tell you stories about that but you already know that's true.
Originally Posted by TK:
The openly racial campaigning and bringing up the past is scaring some Indians, but turning off the few Afros who vote PPP. Also turning off some of the relatively larger mixed population who vote for PPP. The election has teeth. For the first time since 1992, I can't say PPP will win an election. None of this is helpful when the Indo population is between 35 to 39%.
Problem is that the Indian vote is between 45 and 49%, and so the PPP doesn't have to buy too many non Indian votes to win. The coalition has to turn out more Indians votes to win. So unless Indians do the right thing and realize that, as their population dwindles, it isn't in their interest to endorse one race rule, then the PPP wins.
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by TK:
The openly racial campaigning and bringing up the past is scaring some Indians, but turning off the few Afros who vote PPP. Also turning off some of the relatively larger mixed population who vote for PPP. The election has teeth. For the first time since 1992, I can't say PPP will win an election. None of this is helpful when the Indo population is between 35 to 39%.
Problem is that the Indian vote is between 45 and 49%, and so the PPP doesn't have to buy too many non Indian votes to win. The coalition has to turn out more Indians votes to win. So unless Indians do the right thing and realize that, as their population dwindles, it isn't in their interest to endorse one race rule, then the PPP wins.
The PPP had done and will do everything legally possible(not anything) to win every election.
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
The PPP had done and will do everything legally possible(not anything) to win every election.
And you think that it is legal to,
1. monopolize the media restricting access only to PPP cronies
2. Use assets owned by the people of Guyana (Guysuco trucks) to promote PPP party events.
No wonder the PPP is seen as being corrupt. Only the Indian ethnic insecurity dilemma has saved it as the VAST MAJORITY of non Indians DO NOT SUPPORT the PPP.
Originally Posted by TK:
The openly racial campaigning and bringing up the past is scaring some Indians, but turning off the few Afros who vote PPP. Also turning off some of the relatively larger mixed population who vote for PPP. The election has teeth. For the first time since 1992, I can't say PPP will win an election. None of this is helpful when the Indo population is between 35 to 39%.
The interior has 11% of the population, yet only delivered 6% of the votes in 2011, not all from Amerindians. The virtual non participation of Amerindians in the electoral process also increases the importance of the Indian vote above its numbers, in addition to the fact that many mixed voters are either too young top vote, or are in that "irresponsible" phase that we go through between 18-25 where many don't take life seriously, so don't vote.
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
The PPP had done and will do everything legally possible(not anything) to win every election.
And you think that it is legal to,
1. monopolize the media restricting access only to PPP cronies
2. Use assets owned by the people of Guyana (Guysuco trucks) to promote PPP party events.
No wonder the PPP is seen as being corrupt. Only the Indian ethnic insecurity dilemma has saved it as the VAST MAJORITY of non Indians DO NOT SUPPORT the PPP.
Perceptions of the PNC.
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
The PPP had done and will do everything legally possible(not anything) to win every election.
And you think that it is legal to,
1. monopolize the media restricting access only to PPP cronies
2. Use assets owned by the people of Guyana (Guysuco trucks) to promote PPP party events.
No wonder the PPP is seen as being corrupt. Only the Indian ethnic insecurity dilemma has saved it as the VAST MAJORITY of non Indians DO NOT SUPPORT the PPP.
Perceptions of the PNC.
So are the pictures of the Guysuco trucks filled with PPP supporters a PNC perception? Especially when some GNI PPP freaks even boast that the PPP can do this with no consequences.
If the PPP loses it has set a dangerous precedent.
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by TK:
The openly racial campaigning and bringing up the past is scaring some Indians, but turning off the few Afros who vote PPP. Also turning off some of the relatively larger mixed population who vote for PPP. The election has teeth. For the first time since 1992, I can't say PPP will win an election. None of this is helpful when the Indo population is between 35 to 39%.
Problem is that the Indian vote is between 45 and 49%, and so the PPP doesn't have to buy too many non Indian votes to win. The coalition has to turn out more Indians votes to win. So unless Indians do the right thing and realize that, as their population dwindles, it isn't in their interest to endorse one race rule, then the PPP wins.
The PPP had done and will do everything legally possible(not anything) to win every election.
Skelly,the PPP is not doing everything legally to win
elections,using state resources for their election
campaign is not legal.
They have taken a page from Burnham's book,and
mastered the the plan how to brain washed their
supporters,keep them illiterate and raised the boogey
man during elections.
Originally Posted by Django:
They have taken a page from Burnham's book,and
And they have even hired Burnham's goons!
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
The PPP had done and will do everything legally possible(not anything) to win every election.
And you think that it is legal to,
1. monopolize the media restricting access only to PPP cronies
2. Use assets owned by the people of Guyana (Guysuco trucks) to promote PPP party events.
No wonder the PPP is seen as being corrupt. Only the Indian ethnic insecurity dilemma has saved it as the VAST MAJORITY of non Indians DO NOT SUPPORT the PPP.
Perceptions of the PNC.
So are the pictures of the Guysuco trucks filled with PPP supporters a PNC perception? Especially when some GNI PPP freaks even boast that the PPP can do this with no consequences.
If the PPP loses it has set a dangerous precedent.
THE TRUCKS ARE NOT OWNED BY GUYSUCO. BLACK PEOPLE COULD HAVE RODE THE TRUCKS FOR FREE TOO.