The PPP is working tirelessly on their youth. Some of these young men and women work nonstop on the LGE campaign. They began with a parade at Babu John and now they take us to March 18th. Many of them are running as candidates for the first time in an election. Good luck to all of them. This is the future of Guyana.
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The young people in Guyana are not as racist as how many believe. There is unity among them. It's the older diehard racists who are the troublemakers!
baseman posted:Great to see the PPP youth arm in action. The multi-ethnicity send shivers down the spines of racists like Caribj who likes to portray the PPP as an "Indian only" party. PPP will field some good Afro candidates in 2020!!
Whe um deh bhai i see one brother and may be one sister.
No need to go till to Brooklyn. Look at that cabinet and it defines racism. Those old timers, headed by David Granger, who live and breathe the Burnham doctrine are poisoning the society.
Bibi Haniffa posted:No need to go till to Brooklyn. Look at that cabinet and it defines racism. Those old timers who live and breathe the Burnham doctrine are poisoning the society.
Alyuh divided in Guyana no different in the USA same crap.
Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:No need to go till to Brooklyn. Look at that cabinet and it defines racism. Those old timers who live and breathe the Burnham doctrine are poisoning the society.
Alyuh divided in Guyana no different in the USA same crap.
What you are and your PNC friends doing to unite anyone? Show me your pictures.
Bibi Haniffa posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:No need to go till to Brooklyn. Look at that cabinet and it defines racism. Those old timers who live and breathe the Burnham doctrine are poisoning the society.
Alyuh divided in Guyana no different in the USA same crap.
What you are and your PNC friends doing to unite anyone? Show me your pictures.
The current PPP now wake up and realize Indos vote cannot cut the mustard,so they get a few window dressers,by the way unity comes when people respect each other unlike some here who preaches daily the other minority[a few percent less] in Guyana are lesser mortals.The divide and conquer need some serious review in the homeland,some day in the future that will change.
Ok. Understood. And explain to me how this is the PPP fault alone. Why isn't the PNC getting any blame for this?
Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:No need to go till to Brooklyn. Look at that cabinet and it defines racism. Those old timers who live and breathe the Burnham doctrine are poisoning the society.
Alyuh divided in Guyana no different in the USA same crap.
What you are and your PNC friends doing to unite anyone? Show me your pictures.
The current PPP now wake up and realize Indos vote cannot cut the mustard,so they get a few window dressers,by the way unity comes when people respect each other unlike some here who preaches daily the other minority[a few percent less] in Guyana are lesser mortals.The divide and conquer need some serious review in the homeland,some day in the future that will change.
Agree. IMHO that divide and conquer thing is machinations of some politicians and those few here posting safely from behind their computers thousands of miles away about bloodshed etc. and instigating strife. Those few are not thereby helping the people they say they are concerned about. Their careless and self serving words only serve to suggest rifts that do not exist.
I was in Guyana up to last month and there isn't a feeling by Indo Guyanese that they are being persecuted.
susan posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:No need to go till to Brooklyn. Look at that cabinet and it defines racism. Those old timers who live and breathe the Burnham doctrine are poisoning the society.
Alyuh divided in Guyana no different in the USA same crap.
What you are and your PNC friends doing to unite anyone? Show me your pictures.
The current PPP now wake up and realize Indos vote cannot cut the mustard,so they get a few window dressers,by the way unity comes when people respect each other unlike some here who preaches daily the other minority[a few percent less] in Guyana are lesser mortals.The divide and conquer need some serious review in the homeland,some day in the future that will change.
Agree. IMHO that divide and conquer thing is machinations of some politicians and those few here posting safely from behind their computers thousands of miles away about bloodshed etc. and instigating strife. Those few are not thereby helping the people they say they are concerned about. Their careless and self serving words only serve to suggest rifts that do not exist.
I was in Guyana up to last month and there isn't a feeling by Indo Guyanese that they are being persecuted.
This is utter nonsense. Everywhere you turn it is the same crying out. Go to the markets and talk to the vendors. Talk to the taxi drivers in the car park and they will tell you their story. Talk to those people who have lost their jobs and who have families to feed. Talk to those who are scraping their documents to go to the US Embassy for a visa. Talk to those in the hospitals who are victims of crime. Go to Bath Settlement and ask the people what happen to their street lamps.
Did you stay in Linden????
susan posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:No need to go till to Brooklyn. Look at that cabinet and it defines racism. Those old timers who live and breathe the Burnham doctrine are poisoning the society.
Alyuh divided in Guyana no different in the USA same crap.
What you are and your PNC friends doing to unite anyone? Show me your pictures.
The current PPP now wake up and realize Indos vote cannot cut the mustard,so they get a few window dressers,by the way unity comes when people respect each other unlike some here who preaches daily the other minority[a few percent less] in Guyana are lesser mortals.The divide and conquer need some serious review in the homeland,some day in the future that will change.
Agree. IMHO that divide and conquer thing is machinations of some politicians and those few here posting safely from behind their computers thousands of miles away about bloodshed etc. and instigating strife. Those few are not thereby helping the people they say they are concerned about. Their careless and self serving words only serve to suggest rifts that do not exist.
I was in Guyana up to last month and there isn't a feeling by Indo Guyanese that they are being persecuted.
I would add that more and more it is sounding like sour grapes from few here. Seems to me that it is time for people to start working together rather than tearing down those they don't like simply because they are of a different race or support another political party. But that is the ideal embraced and advocated by the few Djangos, Caribs, Gilbakka's, FCs, Tolas on this board and unfortunately there aren't many like those well meaning guys around here.
A harsh critic of Dr. Jagan told me that he was extremely upset with the results of the 1992 elections that he came to the conclusion that our problems with race will never be over. He made his conclusion based on the fact that the Afros went to the polls and voted overwhelmingly for the PNC even though the incumbent party governed dictatorially for three decades and destroyed the economy. The BBC did a documentary some years ago and pointed how poor blacks in South Africa who remain in the same or even worse condition in post apartheid South Africa refused to vote for another party other than the African National Congress. It's mind boggling to many.
susan posted:susan posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:No need to go till to Brooklyn. Look at that cabinet and it defines racism. Those old timers who live and breathe the Burnham doctrine are poisoning the society.
Alyuh divided in Guyana no different in the USA same crap.
What you are and your PNC friends doing to unite anyone? Show me your pictures.
The current PPP now wake up and realize Indos vote cannot cut the mustard,so they get a few window dressers,by the way unity comes when people respect each other unlike some here who preaches daily the other minority[a few percent less] in Guyana are lesser mortals.The divide and conquer need some serious review in the homeland,some day in the future that will change.
Agree. IMHO that divide and conquer thing is machinations of some politicians and those few here posting safely from behind their computers thousands of miles away about bloodshed etc. and instigating strife. Those few are not thereby helping the people they say they are concerned about. Their careless and self serving words only serve to suggest rifts that do not exist.
I was in Guyana up to last month and there isn't a feeling by Indo Guyanese that they are being persecuted.
I would add that more and more it is sounding like sour grapes from few here. Seems to me that it is time for people to start working together rather than tearing down those they don't like simply because they are of a different race or support another political party. But that is the ideal embraced and advocated by the few Djangos, Caribs, Gilbakka's, FCs, Tolas on this board and unfortunately there aren't many like those well meaning guys around here.
I like your heros. You are clearly a very ambitious person.
Bibi Haniffa posted:The PPP is working tirelessly on their youth. Some of these young men and women work nonstop on the LGE campaign. They began with a parade at Babu John and now they take us to March 18th. Many of them are running as candidates for the first time in an election. Good luck to all of them. This is the future of Guyana.\\\\
them old commies still think that social engineering and regimentation is a mobilization tool to the neglect of policies. I guess that is what you have to do when you have a record of obscene corruption.
Stormborn posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:The PPP is working tirelessly on their youth. Some of these young men and women work nonstop on the LGE campaign. They began with a parade at Babu John and now they take us to March 18th. Many of them are running as candidates for the first time in an election. Good luck to all of them. This is the future of Guyana.\\\\
them old commies still think that social engineering and regimentation is a mobilization tool to the neglect of policies. I guess that is what you have to do when you have a record of obscene corruption.
We are done with the old commies. Look at those pics, we are working with a new generation, a new breed, people with clear vision who can embrace the free trade society that you so love. I will count on your PPP vote after these young ones start to run the show.
Naga, the old hardliner from the PPP, complains about being discriminated on the basis of his religion. How did he get into the party central committee in the first place if there is discrimination based on religion? Very soon we will hear the PPP discriminated against Atheist or Materialists like Stormy. I'm waiting to hear that one.
Bibi Haniffa posted:susan posted:susan posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:No need to go till to Brooklyn. Look at that cabinet and it defines racism. Those old timers who live and breathe the Burnham doctrine are poisoning the society.
Alyuh divided in Guyana no different in the USA same crap.
What you are and your PNC friends doing to unite anyone? Show me your pictures.
The current PPP now wake up and realize Indos vote cannot cut the mustard,so they get a few window dressers,by the way unity comes when people respect each other unlike some here who preaches daily the other minority[a few percent less] in Guyana are lesser mortals.The divide and conquer need some serious review in the homeland,some day in the future that will change.
Agree. IMHO that divide and conquer thing is machinations of some politicians and those few here posting safely from behind their computers thousands of miles away about bloodshed etc. and instigating strife. Those few are not thereby helping the people they say they are concerned about. Their careless and self serving words only serve to suggest rifts that do not exist.
I was in Guyana up to last month and there isn't a feeling by Indo Guyanese that they are being persecuted.
I would add that more and more it is sounding like sour grapes from few here. Seems to me that it is time for people to start working together rather than tearing down those they don't like simply because they are of a different race or support another political party. But that is the ideal embraced and advocated by the few Djangos, Caribs, Gilbakka's, FCs, Tolas on this board and unfortunately there aren't many like those well meaning guys around here.
I like your heros. You are clearly a very ambitious person.
I have no idea what you mean by that and quite frankly I don't care to know. I stayed in Georgetown but as I usually do went into the rural areas of the East Coast Demerara and West Coast Berbice.
Look, when the PPP were in power there were many afro guyanese who felt scared of persecution. I recall my neighbours telling their grown sons to be sure to be home before sunset because the police were targeting young black boys. I thought that was nonsense but they felt insecure with a predominantly indo government in place. Now the shoe is on the other foot in some indo guyanese minds. I think a lot of it is fear of those we see as being different from us. High crime rates have plagued Guyana under the PPP govt too. And it is usual that certain persons will be relieved of certain positions when a govt changes, it happens everywhere. I think that some are blowing all of it out of proportion for your own self serving purposes, but you people are thousands of miles away safe in the US. BJ does not carry on with racist nonsense like he did when campaigning because he knows it will not do him nor his supporters any good. Some here could take a cue from him.
susan posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:susan posted:susan posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:No need to go till to Brooklyn. Look at that cabinet and it defines racism. Those old timers who live and breathe the Burnham doctrine are poisoning the society.
Alyuh divided in Guyana no different in the USA same crap.
What you are and your PNC friends doing to unite anyone? Show me your pictures.
The current PPP now wake up and realize Indos vote cannot cut the mustard,so they get a few window dressers,by the way unity comes when people respect each other unlike some here who preaches daily the other minority[a few percent less] in Guyana are lesser mortals.The divide and conquer need some serious review in the homeland,some day in the future that will change.
Agree. IMHO that divide and conquer thing is machinations of some politicians and those few here posting safely from behind their computers thousands of miles away about bloodshed etc. and instigating strife. Those few are not thereby helping the people they say they are concerned about. Their careless and self serving words only serve to suggest rifts that do not exist.
I was in Guyana up to last month and there isn't a feeling by Indo Guyanese that they are being persecuted.
I would add that more and more it is sounding like sour grapes from few here. Seems to me that it is time for people to start working together rather than tearing down those they don't like simply because they are of a different race or support another political party. But that is the ideal embraced and advocated by the few Djangos, Caribs, Gilbakka's, FCs, Tolas on this board and unfortunately there aren't many like those well meaning guys around here.
I like your heros. You are clearly a very ambitious person.
I have no idea what you mean by that and quite frankly I don't care to know. I stayed in Georgetown but as I usually do went into the rural areas of the East Coast Demerara and West Coast Berbice.
Look, when the PPP were in power there were many afro guyanese who felt scared of persecution. I recall my neighbours telling their grown sons to be sure to be home before sunset because the police were targeting young black boys. I thought that was nonsense but they felt insecure with a predominantly indo government in place. Now the shoe is on the other foot in some indo guyanese minds. I think a lot of it is fear of those we see as being different from us. High crime rates have plagued Guyana under the PPP govt too. And it is usual that certain persons will be relieved of certain positions when a govt changes, it happens everywhere. I think that some are blowing all of it out of proportion for your own self serving purposes, but you people are thousands of miles away safe in the US. BJ does not carry on with racist nonsense like he did when campaigning because he knows it will not do him nor his supporters any good. Some here could take a cue from him.
But some of those "heroes" you mentioned earlier make it their job to call BJ a racist. Your boy Carib leads the pack.
Sorry to hear that your black neighbors were targeted by the police during the PPP days. But I thought the police force was predominantly black!! Was this a black on black threat???
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:Naga, the old hardliner from the PPP, complains about being discriminated on the basis of his religion. How did he get into the party central committee in the first place if there is discrimination based on religion? Very soon we will hear the PPP discriminated against Atheist or Materialists like Stormy. I'm waiting to hear that one.
Me thinks Naga is loosing his marbles,i guess it comes with age.
Bibi Haniffa posted:susan posted:I would add that more and more it is sounding like sour grapes from few here. Seems to me that it is time for people to start working together rather than tearing down those they don't like simply because they are of a different race or support another political party. But that is the ideal embraced and advocated by the few Djangos, Caribs, Gilbakka's, FCs, Tolas on this board and unfortunately there aren't many like those well meaning guys around here.
I like your heros. You are clearly a very ambitious person.
I have no idea what you mean by that and quite frankly I don't care to know. I stayed in Georgetown but as I usually do went into the rural areas of the East Coast Demerara and West Coast Berbice.
Look, when the PPP were in power there were many afro guyanese who felt scared of persecution. I recall my neighbours telling their grown sons to be sure to be home before sunset because the police were targeting young black boys. I thought that was nonsense but they felt insecure with a predominantly indo government in place. Now the shoe is on the other foot in some indo guyanese minds. I think a lot of it is fear of those we see as being different from us. High crime rates have plagued Guyana under the PPP govt too. And it is usual that certain persons will be relieved of certain positions when a govt changes, it happens everywhere. I think that some are blowing all of it out of proportion for your own self serving purposes, but you people are thousands of miles away safe in the US. BJ does not carry on with racist nonsense like he did when campaigning because he knows it will not do him nor his supporters any good. Some here could take a cue from him.
But some of those "heroes" you mentioned earlier make it their job to call BJ a racist. Your boy Carib leads the pack.
Sorry to hear that your black neighbors were targeted by the police during the PPP days. But I thought the police force was predominantly black!! Was this a black on black threat???
Some of his out burst certainly are racist.
Django bai this one is for you. Special request!!!!
For my dear friend Django.
One People. One Nation. One Destiny. PPP Strong!!!
Bibi Haniffa posted:susan posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:susan posted:susan posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:No need to go till to Brooklyn. Look at that cabinet and it defines racism. Those old timers who live and breathe the Burnham doctrine are poisoning the society.
Alyuh divided in Guyana no different in the USA same crap.
What you are and your PNC friends doing to unite anyone? Show me your pictures.
The current PPP now wake up and realize Indos vote cannot cut the mustard,so they get a few window dressers,by the way unity comes when people respect each other unlike some here who preaches daily the other minority[a few percent less] in Guyana are lesser mortals.The divide and conquer need some serious review in the homeland,some day in the future that will change.
Agree. IMHO that divide and conquer thing is machinations of some politicians and those few here posting safely from behind their computers thousands of miles away about bloodshed etc. and instigating strife. Those few are not thereby helping the people they say they are concerned about. Their careless and self serving words only serve to suggest rifts that do not exist.
I was in Guyana up to last month and there isn't a feeling by Indo Guyanese that they are being persecuted.
I would add that more and more it is sounding like sour grapes from few here. Seems to me that it is time for people to start working together rather than tearing down those they don't like simply because they are of a different race or support another political party. But that is the ideal embraced and advocated by the few Djangos, Caribs, Gilbakka's, FCs, Tolas on this board and unfortunately there aren't many like those well meaning guys around here.
I like your heros. You are clearly a very ambitious person.
I have no idea what you mean by that and quite frankly I don't care to know. I stayed in Georgetown but as I usually do went into the rural areas of the East Coast Demerara and West Coast Berbice.
Look, when the PPP were in power there were many afro guyanese who felt scared of persecution. I recall my neighbours telling their grown sons to be sure to be home before sunset because the police were targeting young black boys. I thought that was nonsense but they felt insecure with a predominantly indo government in place. Now the shoe is on the other foot in some indo guyanese minds. I think a lot of it is fear of those we see as being different from us. High crime rates have plagued Guyana under the PPP govt too. And it is usual that certain persons will be relieved of certain positions when a govt changes, it happens everywhere. I think that some are blowing all of it out of proportion for your own self serving purposes, but you people are thousands of miles away safe in the US. BJ does not carry on with racist nonsense like he did when campaigning because he knows it will not do him nor his supporters any good. Some here could take a cue from him.
But some of those "heroes" you mentioned earlier make it their job to call BJ a racist. Your boy Carib leads the pack.
Sorry to hear that your black neighbors were targeted by the police during the PPP days. But I thought the police force was predominantly black!! Was this a black on black threat???
Bibi, if you will respond to my post then at least read what I said. I talked about a fear of persecution not actual persecution where my neighbours were concerned. My point was to highlight fears of those who we percieve to be different from us. Also, it is an unreasonbale fear in minds of some that the incumbent govt controls the police and the judiciary, a fear some felt during the PPP tenure. But you might claim that the PPP had no such control, right?! Fear is a terrible thing that can cripple or destroy. and I think a few of you here are encouraging that fear to the detriment of people in Guyana though you few are safely far away from Guyana.
Also, I am first to admit that BJ took an obnoxious racist line in campaigning last time but he is no longer doing that. I know him and I like him so I listen to what he has to say today and am forgiving. Not many are as forgiving because they feel he did a lot of damage to his party and contributed to the growth of that festering rift among Guyanese that is based on mistrust of those different from us.
Take it or leave it.
susan posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:susan posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:susan posted:susan posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:No need to go till to Brooklyn. Look at that cabinet and it defines racism. Those old timers who live and breathe the Burnham doctrine are poisoning the society.
Alyuh divided in Guyana no different in the USA same crap.
What you are and your PNC friends doing to unite anyone? Show me your pictures.
The current PPP now wake up and realize Indos vote cannot cut the mustard,so they get a few window dressers,by the way unity comes when people respect each other unlike some here who preaches daily the other minority[a few percent less] in Guyana are lesser mortals.The divide and conquer need some serious review in the homeland,some day in the future that will change.
Agree. IMHO that divide and conquer thing is machinations of some politicians and those few here posting safely from behind their computers thousands of miles away about bloodshed etc. and instigating strife. Those few are not thereby helping the people they say they are concerned about. Their careless and self serving words only serve to suggest rifts that do not exist.
I was in Guyana up to last month and there isn't a feeling by Indo Guyanese that they are being persecuted.
I would add that more and more it is sounding like sour grapes from few here. Seems to me that it is time for people to start working together rather than tearing down those they don't like simply because they are of a different race or support another political party. But that is the ideal embraced and advocated by the few Djangos, Caribs, Gilbakka's, FCs, Tolas on this board and unfortunately there aren't many like those well meaning guys around here.
I like your heros. You are clearly a very ambitious person.
I have no idea what you mean by that and quite frankly I don't care to know. I stayed in Georgetown but as I usually do went into the rural areas of the East Coast Demerara and West Coast Berbice.
Look, when the PPP were in power there were many afro guyanese who felt scared of persecution. I recall my neighbours telling their grown sons to be sure to be home before sunset because the police were targeting young black boys. I thought that was nonsense but they felt insecure with a predominantly indo government in place. Now the shoe is on the other foot in some indo guyanese minds. I think a lot of it is fear of those we see as being different from us. High crime rates have plagued Guyana under the PPP govt too. And it is usual that certain persons will be relieved of certain positions when a govt changes, it happens everywhere. I think that some are blowing all of it out of proportion for your own self serving purposes, but you people are thousands of miles away safe in the US. BJ does not carry on with racist nonsense like he did when campaigning because he knows it will not do him nor his supporters any good. Some here could take a cue from him.
But some of those "heroes" you mentioned earlier make it their job to call BJ a racist. Your boy Carib leads the pack.
Sorry to hear that your black neighbors were targeted by the police during the PPP days. But I thought the police force was predominantly black!! Was this a black on black threat???
Bibi, if you will respond to my post then at least read what I said. I talked about a fear of persecution not actual persecution where my neighbours were concerned. My point was to highlight fears of those who we percieve to be different from us. Also, it is an unreasonbale fear in minds of some that the incumbent govt controls the police and the judiciary, a fear some felt during the PPP tenure. But you might claim that the PPP had no such control, right?! Fear is a terrible thing that can cripple or destroy. and I think a few of you here are encouraging that fear to the detriment of people in Guyana though you few are safely far away from Guyana.
Also, I am first to admit that BJ took an obnoxious racist line in campaigning last time but he is no longer doing that. I know him and I like him so I listen to what he has to say today and am forgiving. Not many are as forgiving because they feel he did a lot of damage to his party and contributed to the growth of that festering rift among Guyanese that is based on mistrust of those different from us.
Take it or leave it.
If you know him and you like him, why are you condemning the party that he represents? You seem to lack conviction.
As to your earlier comment, fear of persecution and actual persecution are two different things. What is there to fear if they were not actually persecuted?
baseman posted:susan posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:susan posted:I would add that more and more it is sounding like sour grapes from few here. Seems to me that it is time for people to start working together rather than tearing down those they don't like simply because they are of a different race or support another political party. But that is the ideal embraced and advocated by the few Djangos, Caribs, Gilbakka's, FCs, Tolas on this board and unfortunately there aren't many like those well meaning guys around here.
I like your heros. You are clearly a very ambitious person.
I have no idea what you mean by that and quite frankly I don't care to know. I stayed in Georgetown but as I usually do went into the rural areas of the East Coast Demerara and West Coast Berbice.
Look, when the PPP were in power there were many afro guyanese who felt scared of persecution. I recall my neighbours telling their grown sons to be sure to be home before sunset because the police were targeting young black boys.
The only people who lived in fear were the PNC terrorists and criminals, the majority of whom happen to be Black. It could be the police were checking for potential terrorists and yes, I can see Black males being scrutinized.
In the good old USA, we call it "profiling"! Black youths in Guyana profiled by a 90% Black police force, that tells you something. And why you blame the PPP and BJ? What you people think, BJ called the mostly Afro top-brass and instructed them to command their 90% Afro ranks to go and overtly target Black youths??
You people are the most pathetic bunch of low IQ "non-thinkers" who PNC thinkers like Caribj love to haul around by alyuh behind, pat you on it and make you feel nice!! You all are just plain stupid, no other word!!
It's funny you say this happened under the PPP. Hey, I lived in Guyana under the PNC and many Black youths were questioned because most crimes were committed by Black youths. The village in which I grew up (90% PNC Afros, 5% Indians and 5% PPP Afros), and the Afro residents paid special attention to any strange Afro male youth passing through. They hardly took notice of Indians!! This was SOP back in the 70's as I remember!!
Listen baseman, lay off your personal attacks on me. I don't care for your vile descriptions of me. Keep that for your friends and mates.
Chief told you same earlier. It is time you listened. I too rarely respond to you because of your personal attacks.
susan posted:baseman posted:susan posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:susan posted:I would add that more and more it is sounding like sour grapes from few here. Seems to me that it is time for people to start working together rather than tearing down those they don't like simply because they are of a different race or support another political party. But that is the ideal embraced and advocated by the few Djangos, Caribs, Gilbakka's, FCs, Tolas on this board and unfortunately there aren't many like those well meaning guys around here.
I like your heros. You are clearly a very ambitious person.
I have no idea what you mean by that and quite frankly I don't care to know. I stayed in Georgetown but as I usually do went into the rural areas of the East Coast Demerara and West Coast Berbice.
Look, when the PPP were in power there were many afro guyanese who felt scared of persecution. I recall my neighbours telling their grown sons to be sure to be home before sunset because the police were targeting young black boys.
The only people who lived in fear were the PNC terrorists and criminals, the majority of whom happen to be Black. It could be the police were checking for potential terrorists and yes, I can see Black males being scrutinized.
In the good old USA, we call it "profiling"! Black youths in Guyana profiled by a 90% Black police force, that tells you something. And why you blame the PPP and BJ? What you people think, BJ called the mostly Afro top-brass and instructed them to command their 90% Afro ranks to go and overtly target Black youths??
You people are the most pathetic bunch of low IQ "non-thinkers" who PNC thinkers like Caribj love to haul around by alyuh behind, pat you on it and make you feel nice!! You all are just plain stupid, no other word!!
It's funny you say this happened under the PPP. Hey, I lived in Guyana under the PNC and many Black youths were questioned because most crimes were committed by Black youths. The village in which I grew up (90% PNC Afros, 5% Indians and 5% PPP Afros), and the Afro residents paid special attention to any strange Afro male youth passing through. They hardly took notice of Indians!! This was SOP back in the 70's as I remember!!
Listen baseman, lay off your personal attacks on me. I don't care for your vile descriptions of me. Keep that for your friends and mates.
Chief told you same earlier. It is time you listened. I too rarely respond to you because of your personal attacks.
I don't think the term black youth was directed at you. Read it again!
Bibi Haniffa posted:susan posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:susan posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:susan posted:susan posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:No need to go till to Brooklyn. Look at that cabinet and it defines racism. Those old timers who live and breathe the Burnham doctrine are poisoning the society.
Alyuh divided in Guyana no different in the USA same crap.
What you are and your PNC friends doing to unite anyone? Show me your pictures.
The current PPP now wake up and realize Indos vote cannot cut the mustard,so they get a few window dressers,by the way unity comes when people respect each other unlike some here who preaches daily the other minority[a few percent less] in Guyana are lesser mortals.The divide and conquer need some serious review in the homeland,some day in the future that will change.
Agree. IMHO that divide and conquer thing is machinations of some politicians and those few here posting safely from behind their computers thousands of miles away about bloodshed etc. and instigating strife. Those few are not thereby helping the people they say they are concerned about. Their careless and self serving words only serve to suggest rifts that do not exist.
I was in Guyana up to last month and there isn't a feeling by Indo Guyanese that they are being persecuted.
I would add that more and more it is sounding like sour grapes from few here. Seems to me that it is time for people to start working together rather than tearing down those they don't like simply because they are of a different race or support another political party. But that is the ideal embraced and advocated by the few Djangos, Caribs, Gilbakka's, FCs, Tolas on this board and unfortunately there aren't many like those well meaning guys around here.
I like your heros. You are clearly a very ambitious person.
I have no idea what you mean by that and quite frankly I don't care to know. I stayed in Georgetown but as I usually do went into the rural areas of the East Coast Demerara and West Coast Berbice.
Look, when the PPP were in power there were many afro guyanese who felt scared of persecution. I recall my neighbours telling their grown sons to be sure to be home before sunset because the police were targeting young black boys. I thought that was nonsense but they felt insecure with a predominantly indo government in place. Now the shoe is on the other foot in some indo guyanese minds. I think a lot of it is fear of those we see as being different from us. High crime rates have plagued Guyana under the PPP govt too. And it is usual that certain persons will be relieved of certain positions when a govt changes, it happens everywhere. I think that some are blowing all of it out of proportion for your own self serving purposes, but you people are thousands of miles away safe in the US. BJ does not carry on with racist nonsense like he did when campaigning because he knows it will not do him nor his supporters any good. Some here could take a cue from him.
But some of those "heroes" you mentioned earlier make it their job to call BJ a racist. Your boy Carib leads the pack.
Sorry to hear that your black neighbors were targeted by the police during the PPP days. But I thought the police force was predominantly black!! Was this a black on black threat???
Bibi, if you will respond to my post then at least read what I said. I talked about a fear of persecution not actual persecution where my neighbours were concerned. My point was to highlight fears of those who we percieve to be different from us. Also, it is an unreasonbale fear in minds of some that the incumbent govt controls the police and the judiciary, a fear some felt during the PPP tenure. But you might claim that the PPP had no such control, right?! Fear is a terrible thing that can cripple or destroy. and I think a few of you here are encouraging that fear to the detriment of people in Guyana though you few are safely far away from Guyana.
Also, I am first to admit that BJ took an obnoxious racist line in campaigning last time but he is no longer doing that. I know him and I like him so I listen to what he has to say today and am forgiving. Not many are as forgiving because they feel he did a lot of damage to his party and contributed to the growth of that festering rift among Guyanese that is based on mistrust of those different from us.
Take it or leave it.
If you know him and you like him, why are you condemning the party that he represents? You seem to lack conviction.
As to your earlier comment, fear of persecution and actual persecution are two different things. What is there to fear if they were not actually persecuted?
Where and when have I condemned the PPP? Recognising positive things done by the incumbent Govt does not mean that I condemn the PPP. I guess I see things very differently from you, it is not all or nothing for me. Maybe it is because I am not entrenched in partisan politics. I support who so ever does good for the People of Guyana.
Think about you last comment and read what i said on it, we might not be too far apart in opinion on what fear of persecution is and does.
susan posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:susan posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:susan posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:susan posted:susan posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:No need to go till to Brooklyn. Look at that cabinet and it defines racism. Those old timers who live and breathe the Burnham doctrine are poisoning the society.
Alyuh divided in Guyana no different in the USA same crap.
What you are and your PNC friends doing to unite anyone? Show me your pictures.
The current PPP now wake up and realize Indos vote cannot cut the mustard,so they get a few window dressers,by the way unity comes when people respect each other unlike some here who preaches daily the other minority[a few percent less] in Guyana are lesser mortals.The divide and conquer need some serious review in the homeland,some day in the future that will change.
Agree. IMHO that divide and conquer thing is machinations of some politicians and those few here posting safely from behind their computers thousands of miles away about bloodshed etc. and instigating strife. Those few are not thereby helping the people they say they are concerned about. Their careless and self serving words only serve to suggest rifts that do not exist.
I was in Guyana up to last month and there isn't a feeling by Indo Guyanese that they are being persecuted.
I would add that more and more it is sounding like sour grapes from few here. Seems to me that it is time for people to start working together rather than tearing down those they don't like simply because they are of a different race or support another political party. But that is the ideal embraced and advocated by the few Djangos, Caribs, Gilbakka's, FCs, Tolas on this board and unfortunately there aren't many like those well meaning guys around here.
I like your heros. You are clearly a very ambitious person.
I have no idea what you mean by that and quite frankly I don't care to know. I stayed in Georgetown but as I usually do went into the rural areas of the East Coast Demerara and West Coast Berbice.
Look, when the PPP were in power there were many afro guyanese who felt scared of persecution. I recall my neighbours telling their grown sons to be sure to be home before sunset because the police were targeting young black boys. I thought that was nonsense but they felt insecure with a predominantly indo government in place. Now the shoe is on the other foot in some indo guyanese minds. I think a lot of it is fear of those we see as being different from us. High crime rates have plagued Guyana under the PPP govt too. And it is usual that certain persons will be relieved of certain positions when a govt changes, it happens everywhere. I think that some are blowing all of it out of proportion for your own self serving purposes, but you people are thousands of miles away safe in the US. BJ does not carry on with racist nonsense like he did when campaigning because he knows it will not do him nor his supporters any good. Some here could take a cue from him.
But some of those "heroes" you mentioned earlier make it their job to call BJ a racist. Your boy Carib leads the pack.
Sorry to hear that your black neighbors were targeted by the police during the PPP days. But I thought the police force was predominantly black!! Was this a black on black threat???
Bibi, if you will respond to my post then at least read what I said. I talked about a fear of persecution not actual persecution where my neighbours were concerned. My point was to highlight fears of those who we percieve to be different from us. Also, it is an unreasonbale fear in minds of some that the incumbent govt controls the police and the judiciary, a fear some felt during the PPP tenure. But you might claim that the PPP had no such control, right?! Fear is a terrible thing that can cripple or destroy. and I think a few of you here are encouraging that fear to the detriment of people in Guyana though you few are safely far away from Guyana.
Also, I am first to admit that BJ took an obnoxious racist line in campaigning last time but he is no longer doing that. I know him and I like him so I listen to what he has to say today and am forgiving. Not many are as forgiving because they feel he did a lot of damage to his party and contributed to the growth of that festering rift among Guyanese that is based on mistrust of those different from us.
Take it or leave it.
If you know him and you like him, why are you condemning the party that he represents? You seem to lack conviction.
As to your earlier comment, fear of persecution and actual persecution are two different things. What is there to fear if they were not actually persecuted?
Where and when have I condemned the PPP? Recognising positive things done by the incumbent Govt does not mean that I condemn the PPP. I guess I see things very differently from you, it is not all or nothing for me. Maybe it is because I am not entrenched in partisan politics. I support who so ever does good for the People of Guyana.
Think about you last comment and read what i said on it, we might not be too far apart in opinion on what fear of persecution is and does.
Don't get me wrong, I am agreeing to disagree, and I appreciate what you are saying. Who are the people you are supporting who are doing good for the people of Guyana?
Bibi Haniffa posted:susan posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:susan posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:susan posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:susan posted:susan posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:Django posted:Bibi Haniffa posted:No need to go till to Brooklyn. Look at that cabinet and it defines racism. Those old timers who live and breathe the Burnham doctrine are poisoning the society.
Alyuh divided in Guyana no different in the USA same crap.
What you are and your PNC friends doing to unite anyone? Show me your pictures.
The current PPP now wake up and realize Indos vote cannot cut the mustard,so they get a few window dressers,by the way unity comes when people respect each other unlike some here who preaches daily the other minority[a few percent less] in Guyana are lesser mortals.The divide and conquer need some serious review in the homeland,some day in the future that will change.
Agree. IMHO that divide and conquer thing is machinations of some politicians and those few here posting safely from behind their computers thousands of miles away about bloodshed etc. and instigating strife. Those few are not thereby helping the people they say they are concerned about. Their careless and self serving words only serve to suggest rifts that do not exist.
I was in Guyana up to last month and there isn't a feeling by Indo Guyanese that they are being persecuted.
I would add that more and more it is sounding like sour grapes from few here. Seems to me that it is time for people to start working together rather than tearing down those they don't like simply because they are of a different race or support another political party. But that is the ideal embraced and advocated by the few Djangos, Caribs, Gilbakka's, FCs, Tolas on this board and unfortunately there aren't many like those well meaning guys around here.
I like your heros. You are clearly a very ambitious person.
I have no idea what you mean by that and quite frankly I don't care to know. I stayed in Georgetown but as I usually do went into the rural areas of the East Coast Demerara and West Coast Berbice.
Look, when the PPP were in power there were many afro guyanese who felt scared of persecution. I recall my neighbours telling their grown sons to be sure to be home before sunset because the police were targeting young black boys. I thought that was nonsense but they felt insecure with a predominantly indo government in place. Now the shoe is on the other foot in some indo guyanese minds. I think a lot of it is fear of those we see as being different from us. High crime rates have plagued Guyana under the PPP govt too. And it is usual that certain persons will be relieved of certain positions when a govt changes, it happens everywhere. I think that some are blowing all of it out of proportion for your own self serving purposes, but you people are thousands of miles away safe in the US. BJ does not carry on with racist nonsense like he did when campaigning because he knows it will not do him nor his supporters any good. Some here could take a cue from him.
But some of those "heroes" you mentioned earlier make it their job to call BJ a racist. Your boy Carib leads the pack.
Sorry to hear that your black neighbors were targeted by the police during the PPP days. But I thought the police force was predominantly black!! Was this a black on black threat???
Bibi, if you will respond to my post then at least read what I said. I talked about a fear of persecution not actual persecution where my neighbours were concerned. My point was to highlight fears of those who we percieve to be different from us. Also, it is an unreasonbale fear in minds of some that the incumbent govt controls the police and the judiciary, a fear some felt during the PPP tenure. But you might claim that the PPP had no such control, right?! Fear is a terrible thing that can cripple or destroy. and I think a few of you here are encouraging that fear to the detriment of people in Guyana though you few are safely far away from Guyana.
Also, I am first to admit that BJ took an obnoxious racist line in campaigning last time but he is no longer doing that. I know him and I like him so I listen to what he has to say today and am forgiving. Not many are as forgiving because they feel he did a lot of damage to his party and contributed to the growth of that festering rift among Guyanese that is based on mistrust of those different from us.
Take it or leave it.
If you know him and you like him, why are you condemning the party that he represents? You seem to lack conviction.
As to your earlier comment, fear of persecution and actual persecution are two different things. What is there to fear if they were not actually persecuted?
Where and when have I condemned the PPP? Recognising positive things done by the incumbent Govt does not mean that I condemn the PPP. I guess I see things very differently from you, it is not all or nothing for me. Maybe it is because I am not entrenched in partisan politics. I support who so ever does good for the People of Guyana.
Think about you last comment and read what i said on it, we might not be too far apart in opinion on what fear of persecution is and does.
Don't get me wrong, I am agreeing to disagree, and I appreciate what you are saying. Who are the people you are supporting who are doing good for the people of Guyana?
A long list, Bibi. When the mind is open and you wear lens conducive to seeing good, it becomes apparent. I prefer to do that and work for good rather than dwell on the rancour and division inherent in partisan politics.
baseman posted:Susan and Bibi. Alyuh please, sharten them thread lil!!
that is an abuse of the Quote feature
RiffRaff posted:baseman posted:Susan and Bibi. Alyuh please, sharten them thread lil!!
that is an abuse of the Quote feature
Sorry Sir RiffRaff, I am not very experienced with this yet. I noticed that Gilbakka has mastered the art of quoting only the particular post he is responding to. I have to check on how to do it that way.
Bibi Haniffa posted:The young people in Guyana are not as racist as how many believe. There is unity among them. It's the older diehard racists who are the troublemakers!
Oh Rass gal let me help u with some names nehru,skeltonman, yugi ,baseman, Kp,carbary this is gold
July 3, 2012
WHEN the opposition goes on a rampage during its intermittent forays to make the country ungovernable, innocent people get hurt â badly. People who sacrificed much and worked hard all their lives to build and sustain businesses lose everything in minutes.
The PNCâs great hero and candidate, Ronald Waddell, was caught on camera flush with a bucket at a gas station not far from where Regent Street was burning.
Black youths are socialised by opposition leaders to think that Indians robbed them to get rich, so they automatically feel that they have to wrest by force, even murder, anything Indians have. Hatred of Indians is ingrained into their psyche. Many Indian persons, who grew up in the arms of black people in rural communities have today become fearful anytime a black youth gets too close to them.
So the PNC did not only make Indians their victims, but they also made their own supporters their victims, because the most innocent, clean-living black youths are just as suspect as the perpetrators as a result of the difficulty to tell the difference between a criminal and a decent person.
When PNC leaders encourage young black men to attack members of the Indian community for gain and they experience the sweetness of freeness, it is merely a matter of time before they turn their voracious ways toward PNC supporters, which has been happening for a while now.
Today the hatred is being vented toward GuySuCo workers, on the wrongful premise that GuySuCo workers comprise only persons of Indian descent.
But there are a great number of PNC and AFC supporters who work in GuySuco who are being negatively affected from the political fallout.
The opposition leaders who encourage their supporters in Linden to feel that other Guyanese, including poor single mothers and old people struggling for their sustenance and that of their families should pay taxes and higher electricity rates so that electricity consumed by Lindeners could continue to be subsidised should remember that it is also opposition members throughout the rest of the country who are helping to sustain Lindenâs free use of electricity consumption, so this issue should not be one of politics, but of equitable rights for all Guyanese.
If anyone is to follow the trends of Guyanaâs political past, they would discover that an escalating crime wave and lobbying to derail developmental funding always correlate with this countryâs election season, and post-elections.
And, true to tradition, the opposition cabal is ramping up its diatribe against the PPP/C Government, which they are determined to remove â not necessarily by fair means- even taking their anti-nationalist, practically treasonous propaganda to international fora. As always, murderous criminal activities are rising in direct proportion.
Former President Bharrat Jagdeo had said, âOpposition should criticise the government when they make mistakes, and we are not perfect. We do make mistakes sometimes and that (criticisms) is fair; but to have an assault on the Guyanese people through distortions is another matter. To openly lie and peddle falsehoods is not a right of anyone, and that is not fair.
âIf you listen to them carefully, their plans for Guyana â and for all of our people, is about what the PPP should or should not do â and it is all criticisms and negativity. They have never, ever presented a positive plan for fixing the problems of Guyana and for creating a better life for our peopleâĶâĶThey criticise us in Parliament that we are spending too much money on housing. When we allocated $4 billion to buy some land from GuySuco to produce some (additional) 10,000 house lots for Guyanese, they made a big issue of it in Parliament, criticising Irfaan Ali for this (initiative). They know only about criticisms, but not about positive thingsâĶâĶ.
âWe still have a long way to go, but we are getting thereâĶâĶ more and more people are benefiting.â
But the joint opposition has no intention to allow governmentâs developmental thrust to continue because this does not suit their agenda. Instead, they are trying desperately to halt and/or reverse gains made through various stratagems, of which ramping up the inflammatory rhetoric â and the imbroglio over the electricity discord, with Lindeners being targeted as the latest cannon fodder, like they once used Buxtonians and their issues.
That the governmentâs developmental and people-empowerment initiatives have been re-generating confidence in the administration, to the extent where communities in the opposition enclaves are reaching out with trust and hope to the administration for improved living conditions and enhanced lifestyles, is inimical to their self-interested and self-centred agendas for self-aggrandizement and self-empowerment, and they are attempting to destabilise this budding unity in the Guyanese nation, and the peopleâs trust in the administration by whatever way possible, even to blaming the government for things which they (the opposition) are culpable.
Yes, too much is at stake, and care needs to be taken by the people in the country that the opposition forces do not succeed in their evil intentions by sowing seeds of strife in the land once more, because it is the Guyanese people whom they are hurting.
baseman posted:Mitwah posted:Opposition rampages to sow disunity in the country
July 3, 2012
WHEN the opposition goes on a rampage during its intermittent forays to make the country ungovernable, innocent people get hurt â badly. People who sacrificed much and worked hard all their lives to build and sustain businesses lose everything in minutes.
The PNCâs great hero and candidate, Ronald Waddell, was caught on camera flush with a bucket at a gas station not far from where Regent Street was burning.
Black youths are socialised by opposition leaders to think that Indians robbed them to get rich, so they automatically feel that they have to wrest by force, even murder, anything Indians have. Hatred of Indians is ingrained into their psyche. Many Indian persons, who grew up in the arms of black people in rural communities have today become fearful anytime a black youth gets too close to them.
So the PNC did not only make Indians their victims, but they also made their own supporters their victims, because the most innocent, clean-living black youths are just as suspect as the perpetrators as a result of the difficulty to tell the difference between a criminal and a decent person.
When PNC leaders encourage young black men to attack members of the Indian community for gain and they experience the sweetness of freeness, it is merely a matter of time before they turn their voracious ways toward PNC supporters, which has been happening for a while now.
Today the hatred is being vented toward GuySuCo workers, on the wrongful premise that GuySuCo workers comprise only persons of Indian descent.
But there are a great number of PNC and AFC supporters who work in GuySuco who are being negatively affected from the political fallout.
The opposition leaders who encourage their supporters in Linden to feel that other Guyanese, including poor single mothers and old people struggling for their sustenance and that of their families should pay taxes and higher electricity rates so that electricity consumed by Lindeners could continue to be subsidised should remember that it is also opposition members throughout the rest of the country who are helping to sustain Lindenâs free use of electricity consumption, so this issue should not be one of politics, but of equitable rights for all Guyanese.
If anyone is to follow the trends of Guyanaâs political past, they would discover that an escalating crime wave and lobbying to derail developmental funding always correlate with this countryâs election season, and post-elections.
And, true to tradition, the opposition cabal is ramping up its diatribe against the PPP/C Government, which they are determined to remove â not necessarily by fair means- even taking their anti-nationalist, practically treasonous propaganda to international fora. As always, murderous criminal activities are rising in direct proportion.
Former President Bharrat Jagdeo had said, âOpposition should criticise the government when they make mistakes, and we are not perfect. We do make mistakes sometimes and that (criticisms) is fair; but to have an assault on the Guyanese people through distortions is another matter. To openly lie and peddle falsehoods is not a right of anyone, and that is not fair.
âIf you listen to them carefully, their plans for Guyana â and for all of our people, is about what the PPP should or should not do â and it is all criticisms and negativity. They have never, ever presented a positive plan for fixing the problems of Guyana and for creating a better life for our peopleâĶâĶThey criticise us in Parliament that we are spending too much money on housing. When we allocated $4 billion to buy some land from GuySuco to produce some (additional) 10,000 house lots for Guyanese, they made a big issue of it in Parliament, criticising Irfaan Ali for this (initiative). They know only about criticisms, but not about positive thingsâĶâĶ.
âWe still have a long way to go, but we are getting thereâĶâĶ more and more people are benefiting.â
But the joint opposition has no intention to allow governmentâs developmental thrust to continue because this does not suit their agenda. Instead, they are trying desperately to halt and/or reverse gains made through various stratagems, of which ramping up the inflammatory rhetoric â and the imbroglio over the electricity discord, with Lindeners being targeted as the latest cannon fodder, like they once used Buxtonians and their issues.
That the governmentâs developmental and people-empowerment initiatives have been re-generating confidence in the administration, to the extent where communities in the opposition enclaves are reaching out with trust and hope to the administration for improved living conditions and enhanced lifestyles, is inimical to their self-interested and self-centred agendas for self-aggrandizement and self-empowerment, and they are attempting to destabilise this budding unity in the Guyanese nation, and the peopleâs trust in the administration by whatever way possible, even to blaming the government for things which they (the opposition) are culpable.
Yes, too much is at stake, and care needs to be taken by the people in the country that the opposition forces do not succeed in their evil intentions by sowing seeds of strife in the land once more, because it is the Guyanese people whom they are hurting.Mitwahji, exactly what's you point and agenda in posting this shyte, to sow disunity in Guyana?
Rohee and Jagdeo endorsed this racist shytt.
http://www.guyanaobservernews....oundingly-condemned/
Ms. Sussie, you are here to defend the blacks, according to you they are targeted in Guyana, in the USA they are profiled, in Canada they are Carded. Why is it only BLACKS. Anywhere in the world if walking on the street and you see a bunch of BLACK youths on the left , you would walk over to the right side, even Black people follow that rule.In my younger days in Guyana ,I was robbed going to school, going to work in Georgetown and at every occasion the bandits were Blacks, so I had bad experiences with that tribe. Many a times I try to forget the past ,but I can't, I now live in Canada, I can leave my doors open, I can walk where I want without fear.
kp posted:Ms. Sussie, you are here to defend the blacks, according to you they are targeted in Guyana, in the USA they are profiled, in Canada they are Carded. Why is it only BLACKS. Anywhere in the world if walking on the street and you see a bunch of BLACK youths on the left , you would walk over to the right side, even Black people follow that rule.In my younger days in Guyana ,I was robbed going to school, going to work in Georgetown and at every occasion the bandits were Blacks, so I had bad experiences with that tribe. Many a times I try to forget the past ,but I can't, I now live in Canada, I can leave my doors open, I can walk where I want without fear.
Could it really be that all that you got from what I said on this thread is that I am here to "defend the blacks"? Astounding to say the very least.
baseman posted:Great to see the PPP youth arm in action. The multi-ethnicity send shivers down the spines of racists like Caribj who likes to portray the PPP as an "Indian only" party. PPP will field some good Afro candidates in 2020!!
Carib will have a heart attack. PPP support is growing among Afros and the Mixed race. The young generation were conned by the AFC/PNC.
They are smart and will not allow themselves to be conned a second time around.
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