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Originally Posted by kp:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by kp:

You go to Saudi Arabia, Can a woman drive a car? Can a woman hold public office? no and no, but they come to North America and abuse their privileges . Like I say follow the law of the courts, follow the law of the country. The line to come to North America is quite long, They hate America and yet they want to be here. If I go to Saudi, can I have a drink,  no but I Iove a good drink, so I will never go there.

How did the scope of what is legal in Canada gets expanded to include Saudi Arabia? Stupidity abounds.

Is that a Muslim thing to call someone stupid, we live in an ever changing world, try and adapt.

Yuh too little league gyal.

FM

 

Rania El-Alloul crowd-funding campaign garners more than $20K in 1 day

'The headscarf is my choice and my faith,' said El-Alloul

The Canadian Press Posted: Feb 28, 2015 5:43 PM ET Last Updated: Feb 28, 2015 6:36 PM ET

         

Rania El-Alloul says she was told by a Quebec judge to remove her headscarf immediately or apply for a postponement in order to consult a lawyer.

          Rania El-Alloul says she was told by a Quebec judge to remove her headscarf immediately or apply for a postponement in order to consult a lawyer. (Graham Hughes/Canadian Press)         

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Support has been pouring in for a Quebec woman who was refused her day in court because she was wearing a hijab, including a crowdfunding campaign that raised more than $20,000 in its first day.

Rania El-Alloul expressed her gratitude Saturday for the campaign which was set up to raise money to help her buy a car after a judge refused to hear her case to retrieve her seized vehicle last Tuesday.

"I am receiving support from everywhere, because I know I said the truth," El-Alloul said in a phone interview from her home in Montreal. "The headscarf is my choice and my faith."

A Vancouver and a Toronto resident used the website gofundme on Friday to raise the money.

'For someone to be denied justice in a court because they were wearing a hijab is just very strange for a place like Canada. This is not the opinion of most Canadians we know.'<cite class="pullquote-source">- Nouman Ahmad, campaign co-founder</cite>

Campaign co-funder Nouman Ahmad said he was "dismayed" when he heard media reports that El-Alloul was told that her case against the province's auto insurance board would not be heard unless she removed her headscarf.

Justice Eliana Marengo said that she wanted her courtroom to be secular and El-Alloul's Islamic headscarf was inappropriate.

Ahmad and his friend Rayan Rafay, who had never tried crowdfunding before, were pleasantly surprised when their campaign spread rapidly over social media. They received 400 donations and surpassed their goal of $20,000 in just over 24 hours. Ahmad says the response sends a strong message about Canadian values.

"For someone to be denied justice in a court because they were wearing a hijab is just very strange for a place like Canada," Ahmad said. "This is not the opinion of most Canadians we know."

Ahmad plans to keep the fund open, with additional donations going toward El-Alloul's legal fees. He hopes to fly to Montreal to present her with the cheque in person.

'I know I said the truth'

The judge's decision has drawn widespread condemnation from citizens, politicians and civil rights groups across the country. A spokesperson from the Prime Minister's office said Friday that a "if someone is not covering their face, we believe they should be allowed to testify."

A separate gofundme campaign for legal fees has been started by a former Vancouver resident who now lives in California.

Reached at her home outside Montreal, El-Alloul said she was surprised to hear about the crowdfunding campaigns and grateful for the support she has received.

"I am receiving support from everywhere, because I know I said the truth" she said. "The headscarf is my choice and my faith."

'I felt afraid'

Not everyone supports El-Alloul, however. Ahmad had to limit comments on his gofundme site after a number of angry responses.

El-Alloul's court case was suspended indefinitely after she refused to remove her scarf. El-Alloul says the incident has left her feeling afraid.

"If you want to speak to a judge in the court and the judge herself is not listening to you ... I felt afraid," she said.

Now El-Alloul is speaking with lawyers and plans to file a complaint against the judge.

"The most important is to get respect," she said. "I gave her respect. She didn't give me my respect. I don't want this thing to happen to anybody else."

A spokeswoman for the Court of Quebec said Friday it is standing by Marengo's decision.

Tola
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Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by TI:

Sorry,  judges cannot make decisions that violate laws of the country. If in her opinion a headscarf is similar to a baseball cap or sunglasses, the good lady is an idiot.

She may show discretion in the matter or reveal herself as a religious bigot.  I bet you if the pope show up in court with his little hat, she wouldn't tell him take it off.

the judge is not necessarily a bigot

 

she has that discretion in her court

 

unfortunately, what is a "reasonable accommodation" has not caught up with changing demographics in the West . . . and a failure to assimilate

 

the aggrieved lady needs to chill . . . this is neither a human rights issue nor an assault on her religion

 

the legislatures (and he courts) will work these things out in the public interest . . . that's how you do things in a secular law-based society

 

Quran enjoins modesty . . . all the allied nonsense about dress (burka, niqab, hijab, chadoor, etc.) is a function of culture/place - temporal shyte informed by history, circumstance and traditions

I do concur.

Kari

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