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‘They don’t want to integrate’: Fifth night of youth rioting rocks Stockholm

Published time: May 23, 2013 13:17 

Youth gang riots in the Swedish capital Stockholm have entered fifth straight night. Hundreds of mostly immigrant teenagers tore through the suburbs, smashing windows and burning cars in the country’s worst outbreak of violence in years.

At least six vehicles were torched throughout the city late on Thursday while the police called for reinforcements from other Swedish cities bracing for further unrest. 

Firefighters were putting out flames that engulfed several cars and a school in immigrant-dominated areas of Stockholm.

 

The night before, the fire brigades were called to some 90 different blazes. On the fourth night of violence, youths torched over 30 cars in 15 neighborhoods along with a restaurant in Skogas, south of Stockholm. Three law enforcement officers were injured, police spokesperson Kjell Lindgren reported.

Stockholm firefighters were busy throughout the night, saying they had “never before seen so many fires raging at the same time.” Some 90 blazes were reported in total, most of them reportedly caused by the rioters. Still, the fourth night of violence was relatively quiet compared to the previous three, RT's Peter Oliver reported from Stockholm.

Leaders of immigrant communities were out on the streets in a bid to stop young people from rioting. Despite their efforts, as soon as the night fell, groups of arsonists took to the streets to set cars on fire. RT's Peter Oliver witnessed rioters throwing stones at police and journalists alike.

 

Civil disorder in Stockholm started on Sunday, when police shot and killed a 69-old-man in his apartment after he confronted officers with a machete; the unrest has since continued throughout week.

Community leaders insist that a main reason for the violence is the high rate of unemployment in immigrant communities, particularly in the suburb of Husby near central Stockholm, one of the worst affected by the nighttime violence, Peter Oliver reported.

Although Sweden’s unemployment rate is below the EU average, joblessness among those under 25 has reached nearly 25 percent. The RT crew in Stockholm noted that a majority of those taking part in the violence are young.

“In Sweden you’ve got welfare, access to the educational system – up to university level, you got access to public transport, libraries, healthcare – to everything. And still they feel that they [immigrants] need to riot through stones and Molotov cocktails. It’s ridiculous and a bad excuse,” Swedish Democrats MP Kent Ekeroth told RT.

“Police can put down these riots in five minutes – if the politicians were to allow them,” Ekeroth added.

Parents of the rampaging teenagers and community religious leaders are now spending sleepless nights on the street in an effort to prevent their children from wreaking havoc.

 

Meanwhile, the Swedish Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt blamed the violence on “hooligans” and said they did not represent the majority in the rioting neighborhoods.

“I think it’s dangerous to draw a picture of Sweden with a capital separated from its suburbs. I don’t think that’s true. I think the dividing line runs straight through Husby, with a majority population and then a small group of troublemakers,” Reinfeldt said.

But the Husby youth taking part in riots told Reuters they are indeed divided from the rest of Stockholm, struggling to find a full-time job with their Husby address. Most of the interviewed rioters were reportedly unemployed.

The claims of social exclusion in immigrant-dominated suburbs have been partly conceded by Sweden’s Integration Minister Erik Ullenhag, who said the ministry is aware of “discrimination in these areas.” But the riots “don’t improve the image of these areas, where there is a lot of positive stuff going on,” he added.

 

For years, Sweden – one of Europe’s most tranquil countries, famous for its attractive immigration policies and generous welfare system – has been accepting an influx of immigrants, which now make up about 15 per cent of its population. These migrants have failed to integrate into Swedish society, and are only in the country to enjoy the country’s social benefits system, Swedish journalist Ingrid Carlqvist told RT.

“The problem is not from the Swedish government or from the Swedish people,” the editor in chief of Dispatch International said. “The last 20 years or so, we have seen so many immigrants coming to Sweden that really don’t like Sweden. They do not want to integrate, they do not want to live in [Swedish] society: Working, paying taxes and so on.”

“The people come here now because they know that Sweden will give them money for nothing. They don’t have to work, they don’t have to pay taxes – they can just stay here and get a lot of money. That is really a problem,” Carlqvist added.

“The police could do so much, [instead] they have told the public that they mean to do as little as possible. But they could go there and use water cannons, they could not let people out onto the streets at night. There are so many things they could do within the law – but they don’t do it,” she said.

 

Young Muslims who enjoy tolerance, social institutions and welfare while living in Sweden nevertheless refuse to integrate into the West, Gerolf Annemans told RT. Annemans is the parliamentary leader of Vlaams Belang (‘Flemish Interest&rsquo, a Belgian far-right nationalist political party.

“They [Muslim youths] have always sought excuse to show that they are not agreeing with the basic values of Western society,” Annemans said, pointing to the recent cases of the Boston Marathon bombing in the US and yesterday’s beheading of a British soldier in the UK.

“It’s always the same problem. There is a massive refusal by Muslim youngsters of the basics of Western society...  and they take any excuse whatsoever to show that with violence – that is where the problem is,”he said.

As rioting continues to rip through Stockholm, some claim the violence has clearly been orchestrated for ulterior motives, Lars Hedegaard, Editor-in-Chief of Swedish newspaper Dispatch International said to RT.

“Some people would like to gain recognition as stakeholder in society. In other words, there are people who would like to be in a negotiating position… that they can make things happen and go away. That they have power in local communities and should be reckoned with,” he explained.

“These riots in the country that are spreading and continuing for a long time that the [multiculturalism] success was a fiction, they never succeeded,” Hedegaard said.

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Originally Posted by baseman:

The Nordic nations have learned their lesson for allowing so many from a culture who wishes not to integrate into their society.  They need to start expelling.

Dam right! This must go on everywhere and should never be. We all had to go through rigorous tests to make it out of Guyana and most of us have accepted our new home.

The new immigrants seem to have a whole different mentality, they want to change the custom to suit themselves.

 

In one classy neighbour hood around Toronto, a family moved in (the women are fully covered) they find dogs offensive. They harped about closing down the area where dogs are allowed to walk freely. They also want no dogs, period in parks. The Council is now going through their usual meetings over this BS.

Unfortunately for this family, when they moved in, they tore up the whole front lawn and placed concrete where they parked their upteen vehicles.

 

The neighbours got together and made a complaint to the city, Viola, the rude family are now removing the concrete and they were also given a period of time to replace all sod that was removed.

I guess now they feel like cent ice.

cain
Originally Posted by cain:
Originally Posted by baseman:

The Nordic nations have learned their lesson for allowing so many from a culture who wishes not to integrate into their society.  They need to start expelling.

Dam right! This must go on everywhere and should never be. We all had to go through rigorous tests to make it out of Guyana and most of us have accepted our new home.

The new immigrants seem to have a whole different mentality, they want to change the custom to suit themselves.

 

In one classy neighbour hood around Toronto, a family moved in (the women are fully covered) they find dogs offensive. They harped about closing down the area where dogs are allowed to walk freely. They also want no dogs, period in parks. The Council is now going through their usual meetings over this BS.

Unfortunately for this family, when they moved in, they tore up the whole front lawn and placed concrete where they parked their upteen vehicles.

 

The neighbours got together and made a complaint to the city, Viola, the rude family are now removing the concrete and they were also given a period of time to replace all sod that was removed.

I guess now they feel like cent ice.

These intolerant wahabist ideologists come here, exploit the freedoms, then use their new found "rights" to try to impose their will on the rest of the society who accepted them.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:

The Nordic nations have learned their lesson for allowing so many from a culture who wishes not to integrate into their society.  They need to start expelling.

Base how do you explain that so many young muslims in the US but they don't riot and burn. Something is just not right in Sweden, maybe a lack of opportunity. Once a man pocket got money and his belly full, chances are he will not be inspired to riot as he has too much to lose. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by baseman:

The Nordic nations have learned their lesson for allowing so many from a culture who wishes not to integrate into their society.  They need to start expelling.

Base how do you explain that so many young muslims in the US but they don't riot and burn. Something is just not right in Sweden, maybe a lack of opportunity. Once a man pocket got money and his belly full, chances are he will not be inspired to riot as he has too much to lose. 


Druggie it goes to show that its not only blacks who have problems.  Listening to you thought that every one else was perfect.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by baseman:

The Nordic nations have learned their lesson for allowing so many from a culture who wishes not to integrate into their society.  They need to start expelling.

Base how do you explain that so many young muslims in the US but they don't riot and burn. Something is just not right in Sweden, maybe a lack of opportunity. Once a man pocket got money and his belly full, chances are he will not be inspired to riot as he has too much to lose. 

Because America is awash with guns in Rednecks' hands.

Mr.T
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

Druggie it goes to show that its not only blacks who have problems.  Listening to you thought that every one else was perfect.

Man, you really hate yourself and your race, every discussion boils down to Blackman at the bottom of the barrel. Blacks rioting in Guyana is politically motivated, this is much different than economic issues. 

FM

There is a Muslim woman on my street who whenever She sees me and my dogs would walk in the middle of the street between the cars. I thought it was because she was afraid of dogs until my friend tells me it is because of a dog taboo muslims have.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

Druggie it goes to show that its not only blacks who have problems.  Listening to you thought that every one else was perfect.

Man, you really hate yourself and your race, every discussion boils down to Blackman at the bottom of the barrel. Blacks rioting in Guyana is politically motivated, this is much different than economic issues. 

You are black where does that place you?

FM
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

Druggie it goes to show that its not only blacks who have problems.  Listening to you thought that every one else was perfect.

Man, you really hate yourself and your race, every discussion boils down to Blackman at the bottom of the barrel. Blacks rioting in Guyana is politically motivated, this is much different than economic issues. 

You are black where does that place you?

???? you are losing your marbles slowly but surely. CaibJ is black and you are white, traditional enemies, you guys duke it out. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by Danyael:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

Druggie it goes to show that its not only blacks who have problems.  Listening to you thought that every one else was perfect.

Man, you really hate yourself and your race, every discussion boils down to Blackman at the bottom of the barrel. Blacks rioting in Guyana is politically motivated, this is much different than economic issues. 

You are black where does that place you?

???? you are losing your marbles slowly but surely. CaibJ is black and you are white, traditional enemies, you guys duke it out. 

CaribJ is certainly lighter complected than you. In a twilight or just before the evening comes you would disappear into the gloom like most nocturnal creatures and that is a fact. That I am white is in your imagination as well.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

Druggie it goes to show that its not only blacks who have problems.  Listening to you thought that every one else was perfect.

Man, you really hate yourself and your race, every discussion boils down to Blackman at the bottom of the barrel. Blacks rioting in Guyana is politically motivated, this is much different than economic issues. 


No druggie its YOU who do this.  I am pointing out to you that poor people who are disenfranchised react a certain way, regardless as to whether they are black or not.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

No druggie its YOU who do this.  I am pointing out to you that poor people who are disenfranchised react a certain way, regardless as to whether they are black or not.

Certainly to some extent, except when they are paid by opposition to riot and burn as we see in Guyana. In fact you will note that there is a culture in certain villages where criminal activity is preferred over honest labor, a trait encouraged by the afc/pnc. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

No druggie its YOU who do this.  I am pointing out to you that poor people who are disenfranchised react a certain way, regardless as to whether they are black or not.

Certainly to some extent, except when they are paid by opposition to riot and burn as we see in Guyana. In fact you will note that there is a culture in certain villages where criminal activity is preferred over honest labor, a trait encouraged by the afc/pnc. 

Druggie baseman is telling you that there are growing problems among Indo Caribs in the USA and in the Caribbean itself.  This fact not a surprise when we see increasing involvement of Indo youths in violent crime.

 

Yet you focus only on blacks.

 

 

BTW I hear as many Indos complaining about lazy relatives in Guyana as I hear from blacks.  So work ethic isn't determined only by ethnicity.

 

Indeed I have read several accounts of overseas based Indos being murdered by THEIR OWN RELATIVES.  Have not seen that with blacks to the same degree.


 

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

Druggie baseman is telling you that there are growing problems among Indo Caribs in the USA and in the Caribbean itself.  This fact not a surprise when we see increasing involvement of Indo youths in violent crime.

 

Yet you focus only on blacks.

 

 

BTW I hear as many Indos complaining about lazy relatives in Guyana as I hear from blacks.  So work ethic isn't determined only by ethnicity.

 

Indeed I have read several accounts of overseas based Indos being murdered by THEIR OWN RELATIVES.  Have not seen that with blacks to the same degree.


 

I don't focus on Blacks until you raise the topic.  Losers are losers and I call them all alike regardless of race. I don't depend on Baseman for facts, he is giving opinions based on his own observations, this needs to be validated by statistical studies before being accepted as fact. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
 

I don't focus on Blacks until you raise the topic.  . 


Oh really.  Well you are known as one of the racists on GNI.  Spewing with hatred for blacks.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

Oh really.  Well you are known as one of the racists on GNI.  Spewing with hatred for blacks.

 Not true at all, I believe there are others that carry that label. You on the other hand are known for your profound hatred of IndoGuyanese. Notable was your call for reparations from IndoG's even thought we had nothing to do with African enslavement. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

Oh really.  Well you are known as one of the racists on GNI.  Spewing with hatred for blacks.

 Not true at all, I believe there are others that carry that label.


1.  I NEVER demanded reparations from any one.  I demanded EQUAL treatment.  Its a pity that you will demand that the white man must treat your kids fairly, but yet when blacks demand the same thing in Guyana a racist like you screams that its unfair.

 

2.  You and yuji, baseman, skeldon and others hate black people. In your case you feel yourself superior even though you still do not understand that 10% OF 43% IS NOT 10%.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

1.  I NEVER demanded reparations from any one.  I demanded EQUAL treatment.  Its a pity that you will demand that the white man must treat your kids fairly, but yet when blacks demand the same thing in Guyana a racist like you screams that its unfair.

 

2.  You and yuji, baseman, skeldon and others hate black people. In your case you feel yourself superior even though you still do not understand that 10% OF 43% IS NOT 10%.

Which Blacks are enslaved and/or denied equal rights in Guyana? 

 

I give you valuable advice and you take it as an insult, that is your burden to bear. You complain how Blacks even under Burnham was unable to enjoy economic progress to the level of Indians. I then outlined the strategy employed by Indians; saving their pennies, pooling resources and passing on knowledge on to successive generations. If you didn't complain I would not offer my perspective. Instead you tried to blame the lack of success of Blacks all over the world on Indians. Even the Blacks of the US you somehow blame Indians for their unbalanced numbers at the lower rungs of he economic ladder. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See: 

. . . I give you valuable advice and you take it as an insult, that is your burden to bear. You complain how Blacks even under Burnham was unable to enjoy economic progress to the level of Indians. I then outlined the strategy employed by Indians; saving their pennies, pooling resources and passing on knowledge on to successive generations. If you didn't complain I would not offer my perspective. Instead you tried to blame the lack of success of Blacks all over the world on Indians. Even the Blacks of the US you somehow blame Indians for their unbalanced numbers at the lower rungs of he economic ladder. 

dis great Region 11 success story, herr drugabeer, giving blackman "valuable" advice . . . on care of scrotal excrescences, perhaps?

 

har de har har har har harr!

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

Oh really.  Well you are known as one of the racists on GNI.  Spewing with hatred for blacks.

 Not true at all, I believe there are others that carry that label.


1.  I NEVER demanded reparations from any one.  I demanded EQUAL treatment.  Its a pity that you will demand that the white man must treat your kids fairly, but yet when blacks demand the same thing in Guyana a racist like you screams that its unfair.

 

What does equal treatment mean, free electricity?  According to you, Blacks were denied equal treatment since the LFSB days.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

1.  I NEVER demanded reparations from any one.  I demanded EQUAL treatment.  Its a pity that you will demand that the white man must treat your kids fairly, but yet when blacks demand the same thing in Guyana a racist like you screams that its unfair.

 

2.  You and yuji, baseman, skeldon and others hate black people. In your case you feel yourself superior even though you still do not understand that 10% OF 43% IS NOT 10%.

Which Blacks are enslaved and/or denied equal rights in Guyana? 

 

 


OK life was great for Indians under the PNC rule because surely they were not treated any differently than the PPP now treats blacks.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

Oh really.  Well you are known as one of the racists on GNI.  Spewing with hatred for blacks.

 Not true at all, I believe there are others that carry that label.


1.  I NEVER demanded reparations from any one.  I demanded EQUAL treatment.  Its a pity that you will demand that the white man must treat your kids fairly, but yet when blacks demand the same thing in Guyana a racist like you screams that its unfair.

 

What does equal treatment mean,

 

 

If you do not know what equal treatment means then I cannot help  you.  Think of it this way.  Every thing that an Indian desires so does a black, and they should have an equal opportunity to get this, and whether they succeed or not should depend upon what they do as INDIVIDUALS, not what their race is.


Blacks were treated EQUALLY under Burnham.  EQUALLY BADLY as every one else was. Flour gone meant no roti and no bread.  Channa gone meant no dhal puri, and when last I checked Guyanese of ALL races ate that for lunch  (at least in the late 70s and 80s) as it was the cheapest food available.

 

 The execptions to this were the small band of black square pegs who surrounded Burnham who got more than they deserved.  Sadly more than a few of them now sleep with the PPP.

 

Arent you appalled that the Dogs of War who Burnham used against you are now in bed with the PPP?  Norman McLean being a good example of this!

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
 

I give you valuable advice


The only advise you need to give is to tell yourself that 10% of 43% is 4.3%.

 

The notion that todays Indians are as thrifty as you pretend is a laugh by the way.  They spend just like every one else on entertainment, clothes and gadgets.

 

And several Indians like baseman and mitwah have told you that many of the pathologies which exist among blacks are a growing problem among young Indians.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
. Even the Blacks of the US you somehow blame Indians for their unbalanced numbers at the lower rungs of he economic ladder. 


Funny.  Last time I told you about why Asian Indians scorn Guyanese Indians, because they feel that they are little better than American blacks.  So since when does this mean that any one blames Guyanese Indians for what happens to blacks in the USA?

 

Druggie when you learn that 10% of 43% is 4.3% I will stop laughing at you.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

The only advise you need to give is to tell yourself that 10% of 43% is 4.3%.

 

The notion that todays Indians are as thrifty as you pretend is a laugh by the way.  They spend just like every one else on entertainment, clothes and gadgets.

 

And several Indians like baseman and mitwah have told you that many of the pathologies which exist among blacks are a growing problem among young Indians.

You don't get it do you, these spendthrift Indians of today are benefiting from the thriftiness of their parents and knowledge passed down to avoid the mistakes of their ancestors. This is what some Blacks need, tradition in business and a solid plan on retaining savings so they can pass on inheritances and knowledge to the successive generations. Most successful Indians will tell you how their parents denied themselves and saved for the sake of their kids future. This is not just an Indian trait but rather the story of many immigrants and successful businessmen. 

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

Funny.  Last time I told you about why Asian Indians scorn Guyanese Indians, because they feel that they are little better than American blacks.  So since when does this mean that any one blames Guyanese Indians for what happens to blacks in the USA?

 

Druggie when you learn that 10% of 43% is 4.3% I will stop laughing at you.

You mentioned one case gleefully however  I rebutted showing that Asian Indians are themselves at the lower rungs of society as taxi drivers, news stand salesmen,  gasoline attendants and the list goes on. It debunks what your friend said. 

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
 

dis great Region 11 success story, herr drugabeer, giving blackman "valuable" advice . . . on care of scrotal excrescences, perhaps?

 

har de har har har har harr!


Imagine a man who doesnt know common entrance arithmetic "advising" people.

 

Its obvious that he didn't go to Saints or his wealthy family bribed some one to get him in.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

Funny.  Last time I told you about why Asian Indians scorn Guyanese Indians, because they feel that they are little better than American blacks.  So since when does this mean that any one blames Guyanese Indians for what happens to blacks in the USA?

 

Druggie when you learn that 10% of 43% is 4.3% I will stop laughing at you.

You mentioned one case gleefully however  I rebutted showing that Asian Indians are themselves at the lower rungs of society as taxi drivers, news stand salesmen,  gasoline attendants and the list goes on. It debunks what your friend said. 


Regardless of what you might say most Asian Indians consider Caribbean Indians to be losers. Indeed the fact remains that they rejected you all when you came to NYC screaming that you are INDIANS.  Which is why you all now call yourselves IndoCaribbean, not a term that was used in the Caribbean until very recently.

 

Indians from India and Guyanese Indians live in very distinctly separate communities.

 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
.

You don't get it do you, these spendthrift Indians of today are benefiting from the thriftiness of their parents . 

How? In both Guyana and in NYC the evidence is that 95% of Indians are no better off than are Caribbean blacks.  Yes you have a small business elite, but most Indians are scraping along as are most blacks, and indeed in NYC the vast majority work for white people.  I even suspect many would refuse to work for a fellow Guyanese Indian, knowing how shabby they are likely to be treated, based upon reports of how Ed Ahmad and his cronies treated them.

 

One of the things that surprised me is how thriving many of those RH bars used to be DURING the week. (Black Caribbean bars are Th/Sat affairs). And many of the patrons looked quite worn out, certainly not spending the millions that their grandparents made.

 

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

How? In both Guyana and in NYC the evidence is that 95% of Indians are no better off than are Caribbean blacks.  Yes you have a small business elite, but most Indians are scraping along as are most blacks, and indeed in NYC the vast majority work for white people.  I even suspect many would refuse to work for a fellow Guyanese Indian, knowing how shabby they are likely to be treated, based upon reports of how Ed Ahmad and his cronies treated them.

You fabricate, show me the study to substantiate this claim and remember to include all those who moved out of RH as they moved up the middle class. 

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
 Most successful Indians will tell you how their parents denied themselves and saved for the sake of their kids future. This is not just an Indian trait but rather the story of many immigrants and successful businessmen. 

True for the wealthiest 5%.  What happened to the others.  No better off than those blacks, and indeed in NYC working similar types of jobs.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
.

You fabricate, show me the study to substantiate this claim and remember to include all those who moved out of RH as they moved up the middle class. 

A PPPite like you needs to read comments by Prem Misir who lengthily writes that Indians in Guyana are no better off than blacks.  Indeed Ravi Dev swears that they might even be worse off.

 

You were supposed to go and buy the NYC Planning book which showed that Guyanese (of all races) aren't not any better off than are the mainly black Jamaicans.  Unless you can prove that Guyanese blacks are much worse off than Jamaicans I cannot find reason to believe that Guyanese Indians are much better off.

 

Aside from homeownership, thanks to fraud perpetrated by Ed Ahmad and his buddies, I cannot see evidence that Caribbean Indians are any better off than are Caribbean blacks.  Many of these folks are now losing their homes, and indeed that is how Ed was caught.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

True for the wealthiest 5%.  What happened to the others.  No better off than those blacks, and indeed in NYC working similar types of jobs.

Until a study can substantiate this I will take your words with a grain of salt. Unfortunately there are tremendous amounts of studies about Blacks and their large percentages below the poverty line, there is not such a study for IndoG's. 

FM

Also you behave as if no Caribbean blacks haven't also moved to the suburbs.  You wish to use Church Ave as evidence of black failure when the truth is that most do not shop in those business because they have better options elsewhere in Bklyn.

FM
Originally Posted by BGurd_See:
Originally Posted by caribny:
 

True for the wealthiest 5%.  What happened to the others.  No better off than those blacks, and indeed in NYC working similar types of jobs.

Until a study can substantiate this I will take your words with a grain of salt. Unfortunately there are tremendous amounts of studies about Blacks and their large percentages below the poverty line, there is not such a study for IndoG's. 

 

 

Funny druggie I am telling you that Caribbean Indians are not better off than Caribbean blacks and you scream that you need a study to prove this.

 

WHY?

 

Because a racist like you has been trained to think that Caribbean Indians are better off so your sense of self worth is assaulte dby claims that they are not?

 

So why do you not go and prove that, aside from SLIGHTLY  higher home rates (50% vs 40%) that Carib Indians are much better off.  Indeed given that BOTH groups have been heavily impacted by foreclosures I can only wonder what the rates are now.

 

The fact remains that higher business ownership doesn't impact much as Guyanese have LOWER self employment rates than Jamaicans, whose rates are also low by immigrant standards.  Even if no Guyanese black is self employed Guyanese Indians self employment rates will still be quite low.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:

Also you behave as if no Caribbean blacks haven't also moved to the suburbs.  You wish to use Church Ave as evidence of black failure when the truth is that most do not shop in those business because they have better options elsewhere in Bklyn.

I already told you that I have many Caribbean black friends who are prospering in the suburbs, in fact the do the Caribbean proud with their pursuit of excellence and passing on the same traits to their kids. You are the one fixated on Indian and Black failure. 

FM

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