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House Speaker Trotman downplays conflict of interest concerns; says some AFC MPs being wooed

Written by Denis Scott Chabrol
Monday, 23 January 2012 10:30




House Speaker, Raphael Trotman on Monday shrugged off concerns that being his Alliance For Change’s (AFC) Representative of the List appears to be a major conflict of interest, saying it might be part of moves by some AFC parliamentarians to cross the floor.

Former House Speaker, Ralph Ramkarran, writing in the weekend Mirror newspaper, argued that Trotman might “find great difficulty in publicly reconciling the position of Speaker with those of Leader and List Representative of the AFC.”

“The Speaker cannot, without any justification, wear the Party Leader’s and List Representative’s hat in the morning, deciding party strategy in Parliament, and the Speaker’s hat in the afternoon, impartially presiding over the implementation of that strategy in the face of opposition to it,” added Ramkarran.

But Trotman on Monday told Demerara Waves Online News (www.demwaves.com ) “it is not an issue and will be dealt with by the party if and when it ever becomes an issue, it’s just a lot of fluff.” He noted that AFC Chairman, Khemraj Ramjattan is the Deputy Representative of the List.

The AFC Leader, who has already told the privately-owned Stabroek News that he would not be contesting re-election to that post, suggested that Ramkarran’s concerns might be part of a grand scheme by the PPP to woo a number of AFC members and remove him (Trotman) from being a stumbling block.

“There is really a grand scheme afoot to have some members of the AFC cross the floor and there is great concern about what Trotman will do and so this could very well be an attempt to disarm me or dislodge me as Representative beforehand,” Trotman said. “It’s an attempt to get rid of me because of other machinations afoot.” He did not say to which party the AFC MPs could be going.

For his part, Ramkarran observed that Speakers- usually identified with governing parties- are expected to relinquish leading political roles or suppress or not publicise any overtly partisan activities. “However, unique circumstances now arise from a novel situation. Mr. Trotman is not merely identified with the AFC as a leading figure or an executive member.

Ramkarran, himself, has publicly campaigned in previous elections while going on to become Speaker of the 65-seat National Assembly. At the same time, he has been one of the senior leaders of the governing Peoples Progressive Party Civic (PPPC).

While the AFC has always stridently opposed the recall legislation that had been agreed to by the then main opposition Peoples National Congress Reform (PNCR) and the PPPC, Trotman said it was the only weapon available if persons decide to cross the floor.

“In principle, we are against it but in this 10th parliament, the recall legislation will be the whips’ most powerful tool to ensure parliamentary discipline,” he said.

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Originally posted by Mitwah:
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Originally posted by albert:
And the AFC is already losing ground before the commencement of battle.


It's to early to lie. Shame on you!

It's no lie that there is infighting in the hierarchy of the AFC.
FM
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Originally posted by Mitwah:
Ramkarran is full of shit. He is a sore loser. He seems to forget that he was wearing more than one hat when he was speaker.


It was Trotman who spoke about some AFC MPs wanting to cross the floor........how did Ramkarran drop een? Big Grin

But the whole problem which you're trying to mask is that the AFC has serious internal problems
FM
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Originally posted by Mitwah:
Ramkarran is full of shit. He is a sore loser. He seems to forget that he was wearing more than one hat when he was speaker.


Are you on drugs again? get some help...
FM
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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Originally posted by Mitwah:
Ramkarran is full of shit. He is a sore loser. He seems to forget that he was wearing more than one hat when he was speaker.


Are you on drugs again? get some help...


Talking to the man in the mirror. Roll Eyes
Mitwah
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Originally posted by Mitwah:
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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Originally posted by Mitwah:
Ramkarran is full of shit. He is a sore loser. He seems to forget that he was wearing more than one hat when he was speaker.


Are you on drugs again? get some help...


Talking to the man in the mirror. Roll Eyes


I am talking to you. Are you on drugs again?
FM
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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Originally posted by Mitwah:
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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Originally posted by Mitwah:
Ramkarran is full of shit. He is a sore loser. He seems to forget that he was wearing more than one hat when he was speaker.


Are you on drugs again? get some help...


Talking to the man in the mirror. Roll Eyes


I am talking to you. Are you on drugs again?


Big Grin
Mitwah
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Originally posted by Nehru:
I have to give Trotty credit for Fooling Members, johnny come lately members of the AFC and to continue to have him in his palms.


He was a student of Burnham. He fooled all the coolies in the AFC..
FM
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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Originally posted by Nehru:
I have to give Trotty credit for Fooling Members, johnny come lately members of the AFC and to continue to have him in his palms.


He was a student of Burnham. He fooled all the coolies in the AFC..


You are a racist pig.
Mitwah
Are those people knocking Trotman reading the same thing as I', reading.

Her's what Trotman said about both (a) attempts to sow disunity in the AFC by other parties; and (b) why his Speakership and an executive of the AFC are not a conflict of interest (see Ramkarran's similar role all these years for the PPP/C). See also his take on the "Recall" legislation to combat cross-overs.

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But Trotman on Monday told Demerara Waves Online News (www.demwaves.com ) “it is not an issue and will be dealt with by the party if and when it ever becomes an issue, it’s just a lot of fluff.” He noted that AFC Chairman, Khemraj Ramjattan is the Deputy Representative of the List.

The AFC Leader, who has already told the privately-owned Stabroek News that he would not be contesting re-election to that post, suggested that Ramkarran’s concerns might be part of a grand scheme by the PPP to woo a number of AFC members and remove him (Trotman) from being a stumbling block.

“There is really a grand scheme afoot to have some members of the AFC cross the floor and there is great concern about what Trotman will do and so this could very well be an attempt to disarm me or dislodge me as Representative beforehand,” Trotman said. “It’s an attempt to get rid of me because of other machinations afoot.” He did not say to which party the AFC MPs could be going.

For his part, Ramkarran observed that Speakers- usually identified with governing parties- are expected to relinquish leading political roles or suppress or not publicise any overtly partisan activities. “However, unique circumstances now arise from a novel situation. Mr. Trotman is not merely identified with the AFC as a leading figure or an executive member.

Ramkarran, himself, has publicly campaigned in previous elections while going on to become Speaker of the 65-seat National Assembly. At the same time, he has been one of the senior leaders of the governing Peoples Progressive Party Civic (PPPC).
Kari
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Originally posted by Mitwah:
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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Originally posted by Nehru:
I have to give Trotty credit for Fooling Members, johnny come lately members of the AFC and to continue to have him in his palms.


He was a student of Burnham. He fooled all the coolies in the AFC..


You are a racist pig.


I am no different to you. The only thing you pretend not to be and you wouldn't hesitate to hand over your wife and daughters them in order to prove it.
FM
Ralph Ramkarran has been the MOST impartial Speaker in the History of the Republic Ogf Guyana.If I remember correctly, he rules against Ramjattan when he was a Member of the PPP Parliament.
Nehru
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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Originally posted by Mitwah:
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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Originally posted by Nehru:
I have to give Trotty credit for Fooling Members, johnny come lately members of the AFC and to continue to have him in his palms.


He was a student of Burnham. He fooled all the coolies in the AFC..


You are a racist pig.


I am no different to you. The only thing you pretend not to be and you wouldn't hesitate to hand over your wife and daughters them in order to prove it.


You don't have to prove me right. What's the color of your lipstick.
Mitwah
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Originally posted by The Judge:
Looks like the end is near for the AFC.......... Big Grin



It appears as if the PPP really doesnt understand.

YOU NO LONGER CONTROL PARLIAMENT BECUASE GUYANESE DO NOT WANT YOU TO.

THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN> RESPECT THEM!!!!!

And stop creating mischief. If AFC MPs leave they will be recalled and others will replace them. Unless the PPP dumps some of their MPS these people will have done themselves out of a job.

It doesnt matter what the AFC thinks of recall. The PPP forced it thru parliament and it is now the law.
FM
This is is the beginning of the end for the AFC. Interesting times ahead. Protest parties like the AFC always end up like this and history is repeating itself.

By opposing Moses as the speaker, the PNC made a huge mistake and it may appear that the PPP will eventually come out as king in this mess.
FM
Granger and the PNC must be smiling. They set up Trotty for the fall, because they knew that he was power hungry and will sell out even he mother.

APNU wants him to resign too. What you waiting for Trotty. Keep Trotting!

Mitwah, not because people's opinion are diferent from your's you can label them racist. You are a smart guy and knows better.
FM
House Speaker, Raphael Trotman on Monday shrugged off concerns that being his Alliance For Change’s (AFC) Representative of the List appears to be a major conflict of interest, saying it might be part of moves by some AFC parliamentarians to cross the floor.

It appears since Moses join the A.F.C...his presence had parted the Members...
FM
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Originally posted by Kari:
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Originally posted by Dondadda:
Trotty....because they knew that he was power hungry and will sell out even he mother.


How do you know? Got evidence?


Kari is in denial.
FM
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Originally posted by Dondadda:
Granger and the PNC must be smiling. They set up Trotty for the fall, because they knew that he was power hungry and will sell out even he mother.

APNU wants him to resign too. What you waiting for Trotty. Keep Trotting!

Mitwah, not because people's opinion are diferent from your's you can label them racist. You are a smart guy and knows better.


He is a racist pig, else why his racist rants? BTW, I know him. Wink
Mitwah
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Originally posted by Mitwah:
Ramkarran is full of shit. He is a sore loser. He seems to forget that he was wearing more than one hat when he was speaker.


He should shut up his ole razz.

The man is a disappointment to the ppl of Guyana. HE USED HIS FATHER'S NAME to grease the tracks to wealth. The Jagans were crooks just like the fools they permitted to rob the poor ppl of Guyana.

In everything, dishonest ppl does show them real selfs eventually.
S
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Originally posted by albert:
According to a source...Moses will do the A.F.C more harm than good...



You always with dis source an dat source, who de rass know you and want talk to you eh?
cain

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