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We will fix the mistakes at Skeldon factory – Ramotar

April 15, 2013, By , Filed Under News, Source

 

President Donald Ramotar has assured Private Sector representatives in Berbice that the government is working assiduously to “correct the mistakes at the Skeldon Sugar Factory”.

 

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President Donald Ramotar


In March, Cabinet Secretary Dr. Roger Luncheon announced that the US$200M Skeldon Sugar Factory, which was built as part of Government’s plan to reverse the sorrowful state of the country’s sugar industry was a “letdown”.


The Skeldon Sugar Factory is operating at just over 50 per cent of its capacity, and it was announced by the government in December last that millions of dollars being spent to modify the factory will still not bring it to its full operational capacity.


The Skeldon Estate was designed to produce 110,000 tonnes of sugar per annum.


In 2010, production was 33,237 tonnes and in 2011, production was 29,410 tonnes. Former President Bharrat Jagdeo had vowed to see the factory up to its full capacity.


Mr. Ramotar told the Berbice private sector over the weekend that the government had hoped that Skeldon would have performed much better, “but unfortunately it didn’t, but we are moving to correct those mistakes and I have every confidence that it will realize its full potential in the not too distant future.”


Mr. Ramotar is hoping that by the next out- of- crop, all of the remaining work left to be done on the factory will be completed.


Addressing the deficiencies at the modern sugar factory is South African firm, Bosch. However, critical works such as modification to the punt dumper design and replacement of the structure was not catered for in the Bosch contract.


The defects which will be fixed in the Bosch redesign works are those related to the bagasse feeding system and the cane conveyor system. Installing a condensate tank and obtaining a clean water supply to the factory are also on the cards.


President Ramotar believes the other sugar factories across the country can do well with more co- generation plants like the one at Skeldon. Guyana’s energy (electricity) needs will [continue to] rise in the years to come, even with the operation of the Amaila Falls Hydro Power project.


“We would have been using up all the power that the plant [Amaila] produces…. Sugar has a big role to play, [so] we must not see sugar as just sugar anymore, but we have to start seeing sugar as a complex,” the President stated.


Sugar, he said, “has not been performing as well as we wanted to”…but he believes that it has a great future, hence government’s continued investment in the sector.


“The industry has to move to do things differently, and in any type of transition in this nature with such a huge industry, it creates some levels of difficulty.”


The President noted too, that it is only a matter of time that all of the fields in GuySuCO will have to be redone to “make them more machine friendly.”


The industry, he stated, must be made more capital intensive and [must] move away from the labour intensive mode in which it currently operates.

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That's the right attitude Mr. President. Fix the Skeldon factory and move on. Every administration has experienced losses with successes. Who was responsible for the Tata Bus failure in Guyana? That was "only" the beginning of the lost revenue and failure by another administration.

FM

 

         Arthur Chung

          Chung        

Forbes Burnham Dr Cheddi Jagan

   Burnham     Hoyte         Cheddi       Hinds

Janet Jagan

  Janet          Jagdeo          Ramotar

        It's time to clean up this mess.....

FM
Originally Posted by Jalil:

 

         Arthur Chung

          Chung        

Forbes Burnham Dr Cheddi Jagan

   Burnham     Hoyte         Cheddi       Hinds

Janet Jagan

  Janet          Jagdeo          Ramotar

        It's time to clean up this mess.....

Well clean am nah.

Nehru

Ramotar & Jagdeo Choices 

(1) Cut Ramator Term to less than 2 Years

(2) Chose one of them Lil Boy to Run against Naganootoo as President

(3) Behave like Decent Distinguished Gentlemen ....

and sit with Moses & The AFC and

try to clean up this mess….

 

Well clean am nah

FM
Originally Posted by raymond:

I thought the PPP folks on here felt that there were no problems with Skeldon


ray:

 

Rest assured the problems at skeldon will be solved.

 

RE: AMAILA HYDRO

 

The Rev is 100% supportive of the hydro project---but I am deeply skeptical of the Chinese building it.

 

THERE IS A 90% CHANCE THE CHINESE WILL FACT THINGS UP LIKE THEY DID AT SKELDON.

 

It would be wise to have the Germans work alongside the Chinese---supervise their shoddy work.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
RE: AMAILA HYDRO

 

The Rev is 100% supportive of the hydro project---but I am deeply skeptical of the Chinese building it.

 

THERE IS A 90% CHANCE THE CHINESE WILL FACT THINGS UP LIKE THEY DID AT SKELDON.

 

It would be wise to have the Germans work alongside the Chinese---supervise their shoddy work.

 

Rev

There will be adequate checks and balances to complete the hydroelectric power development project.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
 

===

There will be adequate checks and balances to complete the hydroelectric power development project.

 

DG:

 

You have an engineering background, right ?

 

Well, I hope you are right regarding adequate checks and balances.

 

THERE WERE MAJOR SCREW UPS AT THE $200 MILLION SKELDON FACTORY.

 

I just don't trust the Chinese---but they will be providing the bulk of the debt financing for amaila---so that means they will do the construction----but I'd like to see the Germans involved in some capacity(consulting)---maybe providing the checks and balances you mentioned.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
 

===

There will be adequate checks and balances to complete the hydroelectric power development project.

 

DG:

 

You have an engineering background, right ?

 

Well, I hope you are right regarding adequate checks and balances.

 

THERE WERE MAJOR SCREW UPS AT THE $200 MILLION SKELDON FACTORY.

 

I just don't trust the Chinese---but they will be providing the bulk of the debt financing for amaila---so that means they will do the construction----but I'd like to see the Germans involved in some capacity(consulting)---maybe providing the checks and balances you mentioned.

 

Rev

I agree REV. They need to hire a competent Engineering Firm that has extensive experience with Hydro Power. It is worth the Investment.

Nehru
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

There will be adequate checks and balances to complete the hydroelectric power development project.

DG:

 

You have an engineering background, right ?

I posted before on GNI .. briefly ..

 

1. I was the first person appointed as the Specialist Hydropower Engineer in Guyana.

 

2. I have been involved with the planning, construction and management of hydroelectric power projects in Canada, Europe, Africa, Guyana and other countries.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

There will be adequate checks and balances to complete the hydroelectric power development project.

DG:

 

You have an engineering background, right ?

I posted before on GNI .. briefly ..

 

1. I was the first person appointed as the Specialist Hydropower Engineer in Guyana.

 

2. I have been involved with the planning, construction and management of hydroelectric power projects in Canada, Europe, Africa, Guyana and other countries.

Great work Bhai. Keep on doing what you do to improve the world. God Bless.

Nehru
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
 
 

I posted before on GNI .. briefly ..

 

1. I was the first person appointed as the Specialist Hydropower Engineer in Guyana.

 

2. I have been involved with the planning, construction and management of hydroelectric power projects in Canada, Europe, Africa, Guyana and other countries.

 

Quite impressive DG!

 

Rev

 


 

FM
Originally Posted by Nehru:
=============
 

I agree REV. They need to hire a competent Engineering Firm that has extensive experience with Hydro Power. It is worth the Investment.


Nehru bhai:

 

With a 1 billion dollar project---led by the unreliable Chinese---the common sense thing to do would be to have an independent consulting company provide the "checks and balances" DG mentioned.

 

BUT AS YOU KNOW COMMON SENSE AINT AS COMMON AS PEOPLE THINK.

 

Hope the PPP learned from the failures at Skeldon---you have to trust the Chinese---they are providing the bulks of the financing----but their work must be VERIFIED----this is where an independent consulting company comes in.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Hope the PPP learned from the failures at Skeldon---you have to trust the Chinese---they are providing the bulks of the financing----but their work must be VERIFIED----this is where an independent consulting company comes in.

You have raised valid points.

 

Note however ...

 

1. Development of hydroelectric power projects has a variety of separate groups that exercise the checks and balances for successful realisation.

 

2. There is a period after construction to monitor and ensure the works are operating as designed and the contractor is responsible to make the needed adjustments.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
 
 

Note however ...

 

1. Development of hydroelectric power projects has a variety of separate groups that exercise the checks and balances for successful realisation.

 

2. There is a period after construction to monitor and ensure the works are operating as designed and the contractor is responsible to make the needed adjustments.


Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

 

By the way, some of the largest hydro facilities in the world are in china, right ?

 

So I would presume that group that will be doing the amaila construction has solid hydro experience.

 

Also, I rather doubt Blackstone group(Sithe global) will tolerate shoddy work----those guys are in the business of making money---and they will ensure the project is developed the right way.

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Jalil:

 

         Arthur Chung

          Chung        

Forbes Burnham Dr Cheddi Jagan

   Burnham     Hoyte         Cheddi       Hinds

Janet Jagan

  Janet          Jagdeo          Ramotar

        It's time to clean up this mess.....

Well clean am nah.

The Kabaka and Dr Jagan looked the best!!

Chief
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
 

===

There will be adequate checks and balances to complete the hydroelectric power development project.

 

DG:

 

You have an engineering background, right ?

 

Well, I hope you are right regarding adequate checks and balances.

 

THERE WERE MAJOR SCREW UPS AT THE $200 MILLION SKELDON FACTORY.

 

I just don't trust the Chinese---but they will be providing the bulk of the debt financing for amaila---so that means they will do the construction----but I'd like to see the Germans involved in some capacity(consulting)---maybe providing the checks and balances you mentioned.

 

Rev

 Rev Skeldon Factory had adequate Checks and Balances....it was a PPP Job...and we had nuff engineers like DG monitoring it all the way.

FM
Originally Posted by Jalil:
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
 

===

There will be adequate checks and balances to complete the hydroelectric power development project.

 

DG:

 

You have an engineering background, right ?

 

Well, I hope you are right regarding adequate checks and balances.

 

THERE WERE MAJOR SCREW UPS AT THE $200 MILLION SKELDON FACTORY.

 

I just don't trust the Chinese---but they will be providing the bulk of the debt financing for amaila---so that means they will do the construction----but I'd like to see the Germans involved in some capacity(consulting)---maybe providing the checks and balances you mentioned.

 

Rev

 Rev Skeldon Factory had adequate Checks and Balances....it was a PPP Job...and we had nuff engineers like DG monitoring it all the way.

Like you don't hear well. D_G said: -


There will be adequate checks and balances to complete the hydroelectric power development project.


If you want to jump and wave, wait for Mash 2014.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

There will be adequate checks and balances to complete the hydroelectric power development project.

DG:

 

You have an engineering background, right ?

I posted before on GNI .. briefly ..

 

1. I was the first person appointed as the Specialist Hydropower Engineer in Guyana.

 

2. I have been involved with the planning, construction and management of hydroelectric power projects in Canada, Europe, Africa, Guyana and other countries.

HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH...LOOKO RASS HERE. SUH YOU A DE MAN WHO BIN INVOLVE IN DE MOCA MOCA CHINEE HYDRO. LARD THESE FRADSTERS!!!

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
 
 

Note however ...

 

1. Development of hydroelectric power projects has a variety of separate groups that exercise the checks and balances for successful realisation.

 

2. There is a period after construction to monitor and ensure the works are operating as designed and the contractor is responsible to make the needed adjustments.


Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

 

By the way, some of the largest hydro facilities in the world are in china, right ?

 

So I would presume that group that will be doing the amaila construction has solid hydro experience.

 

Also, I rather doubt Blackstone group(Sithe global) will tolerate shoddy work----those guys are in the business of making money---and they will ensure the project is developed the right way.

 

Rev

 

HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH. ABIE SPECIALIST MOCA MOCA HYDRO ENGINNEER A GET NUF CHAIRLEADERS. MEK SURE YUH PUT ON YUH TIGHTS AND CHAIR DE MOCA MOCA ENGINEER. 

FM

The Specialist Engineer worked on Burnham Hydro Project. No wonder it failed. 

 

The man is 80 years old and still dreaming that he's an engineer. Dem engines he wuk pun were powered by steam. 

 

Mars

President Donald Ramotar has assured Private Sector representatives in Berbice that the government is working assiduously to “correct the mistakes at the Skeldon Sugar Factory”.

 

http://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/images/2013/04/donald.ramotar.jpg

President Donald Ramotar

 

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

President Donald Ramotar has assured Private Sector representatives in Berbice that the government is working assiduously to “correct the mistakes at the Skeldon Sugar Factory”.

 

http://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/images/2013/04/donald.ramotar.jpg

President Donald Ramotar

 

When president Ramotar said he will fix it, consider it done. He is man of his words. 

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

Note however ...

 

1. Development of hydroelectric power projects has a variety of separate groups that exercise the checks and balances for successful realisation.

 

2. There is a period after construction to monitor and ensure the works are operating as designed and the contractor is responsible to make the needed adjustments.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

 

By the way, some of the largest hydro facilities in the world are in china, right ?

 

So I would presume that group that will be doing the amaila construction has solid hydro experience.

 

Also, I rather doubt Blackstone group(Sithe global) will tolerate shoddy work----those guys are in the business of making money---and they will ensure the project is developed the right way.

 

Rev

Correct.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

We will fix the mistakes at Skeldon factory – Ramotar

April 15, 2013, By , Filed Under News, Source

SIx years later, a 100 million US in the fixing strategy and the lemon remains a lemon. What is this gentleman talking about? They should not have accepted delivery of a non functioning plant in the first place. He sat on the sugar board when this process was initiated and through its completion so he ought to be fully aware it is a lemon. We have not begun to pay the chinese and interest is piling up and yet this thing cannot function to fifty percent of its intended capacity. There is no fixing this thing if you have to spend its cost in its repair. It is replacing it under the guise of fixing it and all on the backs of the poor sugar workers.

 

 

Of course when the opposition complain that the thing is s money sink hole they will deny responsibility and insist it is the opposition who is opposed to making this thing work. Mr Ramotar, you fiddled, fattened your pocked and failed the people. You are directly responsible for this mess as jagdeo is. There is no fixing this. There is a replacing of it. At lest that is what is the result if you have to buy it at twice its proposed cost to get it to work

FM

DG said the same about Skeldon factory when they were building it...he is a classic full ah shit Guyanese

He just want an excuse to state his credentials, as if that will somehow make the project a success

FM
Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by ABIDHA:

If you want to jump and wave, wait for Mash 2014.

    Nice one. Jalil dah is a fish-up bhai......

De Kabaka Hydro Project failed because Burnham was made to believe DG was a good experienced engineer...

 

Why should we listen to DG now.....All his Engineering work and experience in Guyana was a failure Under the PNC.

 

When yuh talking about dem PNC engineers..... yuh cant forget them Boss Hammie...no Jumping and waiving now.

 

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Minister.....................Garbage......................... Engineer

FM
Originally Posted by Jalil:
Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by ABIDHA:

If you want to jump and wave, wait for Mash 2014.

    Nice one. Jalil dah is a fish-up bhai......

De Kabaka Hydro Project failed because Burnham was made to believe DG was a good experienced engineer...

 

Why should we listen to DG now.....All his Engineering work and experience in Guyana was a failure Under the PNC.

 

When yuh talking about dem PNC engineers..... yuh cant forget them Boss Hammie...no Jumping and waiving now.

 

prgrsvimghttp://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4749852554428488&w=80&h=80&c=8&pid=3.1&qlt=90

Minister.....................Garbage......................... Engineer

So was the engineer a card carrying PNC member?

Mars

I am not sure if he always carry the card around proudly.

But he could be very acrobatic....

and flip-flop with de Govt of De Day.

And his Record Under the PNC is all a Pile of Garbage.

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Minister...................Garbage........................ Engineer

FM
Originally Posted by God:

The Specialist Engineer worked on Burnham Hydro Project. No wonder it failed. 

 

The man is 80 years old and still dreaming that he's an engineer. Dem engines he wuk pun were powered by steam. 

 

HEH HEH HEH. DE SPECIALIS MOCA MOCA ENGINEER BRUK UP BURNHAM HYDRO TOO??

FM
Originally Posted by ABIDHA:
Originally Posted by Conscience:

President Donald Ramotar has assured Private Sector representatives in Berbice that the government is working assiduously to “correct the mistakes at the Skeldon Sugar Factory”.

 

http://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/images/2013/04/donald.ramotar.jpg

President Donald Ramotar

 

When president Ramotar said he will fix it, consider it done. He is man of his words. 

 

YEA BOI LIKE HOW HE BIN A DRAW DOWN SALARY FOH SLEEP PUN DE BOARD FOH 18 YEARS. 

FM

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